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[00:00:01]

OH. I'M SORRY. YOU GOOD? OKAY. HE'S GOOD NOW.

GOOD MORNING. REPEAT [LAUGHTER]. AND WELCOME TO CAROLINE COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION MEETING THIS MORNING.

[1. Opening Items]

WELCOME TO THOSE PRESENT AS WELL AS TO THOSE WHO MAY BE VIRTUAL.

AND AT THIS TIME, WE WILL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

FOUR MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. ONE WILL BE MET. MR. JONES WILL BE PRESENT VIRTUALLY. LET US STAND FOR OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SO CARRIED. LET US ALL STAND FOR THE PLEDGE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU. WE NEED A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF OUR AGENDA.

MAKE A MOTION. I'LL SECOND. OKAY. [LAUGHTER].

IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED THAT OUR AGENDA IS APPROVED AS PRESENTED.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SO, CARRY. THANK YOU.

AND OUR FOCUS TODAY WE HAVE THE ONE ACTION ITEM WHICH IS THE PROPOSED NEW SCHOOL LOCATION.

[2.01 Proposed New School Location: Lockerman Middle School Written Public Comment Received Prior to the Meeting]

AND AT THIS TIME DOCTOR SIMMONS. YES. I WILL START AND KIND OF KICK OFF THE CONVERSATION BE PASSING TO MR. BILL MENGEL AND THE TEAM THERE. AS THE BOARD AND PUBLIC IS AWARE IN NOVEMBER OF 2023, THE BOARD REVIEWED CAPITAL PROJECT NEEDS FOR ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS.

WE DID A COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF ALL OF OUR BUILDINGS TO TRY TO IDENTIFY WHERE THAT NEXT PROJECT WOULD BE THAT WOULD NEED TO BE COMPLETED TO MODERNIZE OUR SCHOOLS.

THE WAY PUBLIC SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION WORKS IN THE STATE OF MARYLAND BUILDING MUST BE 40 YEARS OLD BEFORE IT'S ELIGIBLE FOR FULL STATE FUNDING.

WITH THE COUNTY, WITH OUR WEALTH AND THE ABILITY TO FUND SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.

IT'S IMPORTANT AND IMPERATIVE THAT OUR BUILDINGS REACH 40 IN ORDER TO MAXIMIZE STATE DOLLARS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO HELP FUND THE SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.

AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THE BOARD IDENTIFIED LOCKERMAN AS THE NEXT SCHOOL FOR RENOVATION OR REPLACEMENT.

IN JUNE 24TH, THEY OFFICIALLY MADE THAT DECISION IN THE EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES MASTER PLAN.

THAT WAS SET OUT AND WE STARTED THAT COURSEWORK TO IDENTIFY WHAT NEEDED TO GO ON BOTH AT THE LOCKERMAN SITE AND IF A NEW SITE WOULD BE NEEDED.

THROUGH THAT WORK WE CONSULTED WITH DOCTOR LEVER AND DEB SZYFER FROM THEIR ORGANIZATION TO WORK WITH US.

THEY'RE EXPERTS IN PUBLIC SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION. DOCTOR LEVER, HAVING PREVIOUSLY LED THE SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION WORK FOR THE STATE OF MARYLAND. AND HAS HELPED MANY SCHOOL SYSTEMS THROUGH THAT PROCESS SINCE THIS TIME THERE TO HELP US MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE DOING WHAT WE NEEDED TO, TO QUEUE UP LOCKERMAN AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HITTING ALL THE MARKS THAT WE NEEDED TO.

THROUGH THAT WORK, WE REALIZED WE DO NEED, WE DID NEED TO DO A FEASIBILITY STUDY TO IDENTIFY IF THE CURRENT LOCKERMAN SITE WOULD BE THE RIGHT SITE.

AND IF NOT, WHERE ELSE COULD BE CONSIDERED? WE WERE GRANTED A WAIVER FROM THE INTERAGENCY ON SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE LOCKERMAN SITE.

DUE TO ITS SIZE AND THE TRAFFIC FLOW ISSUES THAT EXIST AT THE CURRENT LOCATION FOR LOCKERMAN.

AND THEN WE PROCEEDED TO LOOK AT ADDITIONAL LOCATIONS IN THE COUNTY.

THE COUNTY PRESENTED OPTIONS TO US OF LOOKING AT DOUBLE HILLS ROAD.

THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OWN PROPERTY ON DOUBLE HILLS ROAD.

AND WE WERE ALSO LOOKING AT THE NORTH CAROLINE HIGH SCHOOL SITE AS A SITE OF PROPERTY THAT THE SCHOOL SYSTEM CURRENTLY OWNS.

AND IT IS A, A LARGE PARCEL FOR A SINGLE SCHOOL.

SO WE LOOKED AT THOSE TWO SITES, TCA ARCHITECTS LED THROUGH THE FEASIBILITY STUDY WORK AND THE EVALUATION CAME TO THE BOARD FOR CONSIDERATION OF IDENTIFYING THE LOCATION FOR THE PREFERRED SITE. NORTH CAROLINE HIGH SCHOOL WAS SELECTED BY THIS BOARD AS THE PREFERRED LOCATION FOR THE NEW MIDDLE SCHOOL.

WE DID MOVE FORWARD WITH THE WORK AT THAT POINT, AND WE SELECTED MARYLAND STADIUM AUTHORITY.

AND THANK YOU TO DON BEING HERE TODAY AS WELL, MARYLAND STADIUM AUTHORITY TO SERVE AS OUR PROJECT MANAGER FOR THIS WORK.

AND THEY ARE HELPING US WORK THROUGH IT. MARYLAND STADIUM AUTHORITY NOT JUST.

DOES NOT JUST BUILD STADIUMS. THEY'VE BEEN IN THE SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS FOR A WHILE AS WELL, TO HELP MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE SHOULD BE. AND WE'RE EXAMINING ALL, ALL ASPECTS OF THE PROJECT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE MOST EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT BUILD THAT WE CAN AND THE SAFEST BUILD.

AFTER CONSULTING WITH THEM, WE STARTED ON OUR PROCESS OF IDENTIFYING AN ARCHITECT.

WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS ESTABLISHED THROUGH MSA MARYLAND STADIUM AUTHORITY, AND THROUGH THAT WORK, WE IDENTIFIED CRABTREE, ROHRBAUGH AND ASSOCIATES AS OUR ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING FIRM.

WHICH CONGRATULATIONS TO CRABTREE, ROHRBAUGH WELCOME ABOARD.

AND WE NEEDED TO GET STARTED RIGHT AWAY ON THOSE EFFORTS.

AND TODD WILL BE HERE AND YOU'LL BE HEARING FROM HIM SHORTLY. AND THEN WE ALSO, IN THE MONTH OF JULY, SELECTED OAK CONSTRUCTION AS THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER FOR THE PROJECT, AS IT AS IT MOVES FORWARD.

[00:05:07]

AS THE BOARD IS AWARE, WE HELD A COMMUNITY MEETING LAST WEEK.

THREE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD WERE PRESENT TO GATHER FEEDBACK ON POTENTIAL LOCATIONS.

AND IF THERE WERE ANY ADJUSTMENTS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE CONSIDERED OR WHAT THOSE IMPACTS WOULD BE AS WE FURTHER DEVELOP PLANS AND DEVELOP THE SITE.

SO BEFORE THE BOARD TODAY AS A RECOMMENDATION TO MAKE A DECISION ON THE LOCATION OF THE STRUCTURE, THE FOOTPRINT OF THE SCHOOL ON THE NORTH CAROLINE HIGH SCHOOL CAMPUS.

THE DECISION COMES TO THE BOARD TODAY LARGELY OUT OF NECESSITY FOR MOVING THE PROJECT FORWARD DURING THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION THIS PAST YEAR.

AT THE SAME TIME THE LEGISLATURE WAS MEETING THE INTERAGENCY ON SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION, REVISED THE WAY THE PUBLIC SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION IS FUNDED, PARTICULARLY WHY IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US. IT WAS FOR CAROLINE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS IS ONE OF THOSE THAT BENEFITED, AS THIS WILL LARGELY BE A STATE FUNDED PROJECT.

IF WE HAVE BETTER FUNDING MECHANISMS FROM THE STATE, A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF STATE SHARE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAXIMIZE THE STATE DOLLAR OVER LOCAL TAXPAYER DOLLAR IN THE BUILD OUT OF THE SCHOOL.

THE CHANGE THAT TOOK PLACE WITH THE FUNDING FORMULA WAS A LITTLE BIT UNEXPECTED, I'LL BE HONEST.

IT'S BEEN MULTIPLE YEARS THAT WE'VE HAD DELEGATES WORKING TO TRY TO GET THAT ADJUSTMENT TO TAKE PLACE, AND IT WAS A WELCOME SURPRISE WHEN IT DID, BUT IT ADJUSTED THE FUNDING FORMULA FOR TWO YEARS ONLY BECAUSE THE STATE SETS THEIR FUNDING FORMULA TWO YEARS AT A TIME.

SO ADJUSTED THE FUNDING FORMULA FOR FISCAL YEAR 27 AND FISCAL YEAR 28.

FISCAL YEAR 28 IS THE MOST EXPENSIVE YEAR OF THE BUILD AS PROPOSED.

AND AT FISCAL YEAR 28, THE RECOMMENDED STATE SHARE OF ALLOWABLE COSTS IS 100% OF STATE COST 100% OF THE STATE SHARE.

AS WE'VE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS, 100% DOESN'T MEAN A TOTALLY FUNDED PROJECT BY THE STATE, BUT IT DOES MEAN THE DOLLARS THAT THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR, WE WOULD SEE 100% OF THAT WITH ZERO LOCAL MATCH.

THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED IN CAROLINE COUNTY HISTORY SINCE THE 70S.

FROM WHAT WE COULD TELL LOOKING BACK AND WE'RE ACTUALLY MEETING WITH THE INTER-AGENCY ON SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION SOON TO GET A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT THE TRUE DOLLAR WOULD BE TO THE COUNTY. MAKING THE DECISION TODAY STARTS THE PROCESS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE STUDIES THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR TRULY SITING THE SCHOOL.

WHAT WE'RE ASKING THE BOARD TO CONSIDER AGAIN FOR THE FOUNDATION OF THE BUILDING.

ONCE WE SELECT THE FOUNDATION CRABTREE ROHRBAUGH AND THEIR TEAM WILL BEGIN THEIR PROCESS OF DOING.

AND I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO SOUND LIKE AN EXPERT. I WILL LET THEM DO THAT. BUT THEY GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF DOING THEIR SOIL SAMPLES AND THE THINGS THAT CAN DETERMINE IF A BUILDING OF THIS SIZE CAN BE BUILT ON THE GROUND THAT WE'VE SELECTED.

IF NOT, THEN IT HAS TO BE ADJUSTED ON THE PROPERTY TO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

THEY WILL ALSO DO THEIR PIECE OF STARTING THEIR TRAFFIC STUDIES.

THEY WILL START THEIR OTHER ANALYSIS THAT GETS DONE ONCE THE BUILDING IS BUILDING SITE IS SELECTED.

IF THE TRAFFIC STUDIES BRING INFORMATION BACK THAT SAYS THIS ISN'T THE BEST LOCATION ON THE PROPERTY AND WE NEED TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS OR CHANGES TO THE PLAN.

WE USE THAT INFORMATION TO MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS GOING FORWARD.

SO THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WILL COME TO THE BOARD TODAY, OR AT LEAST THE THE IDEAS THAT WILL COME TO THE BOARD TO CONSIDER REALLY IS THE FIRST STEP TO GET THE BALL ROLLING IN THE NEXT PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS.

WE ARE AGAIN LOOKING TO MAXIMIZE STATE DOLLARS AND KEEP THE BALL ROLLING IN THAT DIRECTION.

WE HEARD GREAT FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY THE OTHER NIGHT AND WE APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK. THAT WAS THE POINT OF THE MEETING WAS TO GET INFORMATION FROM FOLKS OF WHAT THEIR CONCERNS MAY BE. BECAUSE ALSO THE ARCHITECTURAL FIRM AND OUR CONSULTANTS WILL KEEP THAT IN MIND AS THEY CONTINUE TO FLUSH OUT AND DRAW OUT FURTHER DESIGNS AS THEY BUILD OUT THE SITE.

NOTHING WILL BE TOTALLY SQUASHED AND PUSHED AWAY IN TERMS OF FEEDBACK.

IT'S ALL USED IN THE PROCESS AS WE BUILD THIS, THIS SCHOOL OUT.

SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE TIMELINE WISE, THAT'S WHY WE SCHEDULED THE MEETING FOR TODAY.

THE NEXT ROUND OF SUBMISSIONS IS SEPTEMBER 1ST, WHICH CRABTREE BELIEVES WE CAN HIT THAT DATE IF THE BOARD CAN REACH A DECISION TODAY TO GET THOSE SUBMISSIONS IN. PUBLIC SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION FUNDING.

SEPTEMBER 1ST IS AN IMPORTANT DATE FOR CAROLINE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS FOR THE NEXT SUBMISSION TO GET IN, BECAUSE IT PUTS US IN THE EARLY QUEUE FOR FUNDING.

THE STATE'S NOT LOOKING AT A GREAT FUNDING YEAR. I WON'T SPEAK FOR PUBLIC SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION, BUT TAX DOLLAR WISE, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY IS LOOKING AT A REAL ROUGH YEAR. AND MY, MY RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD IS MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE PUTTING CAROLINE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IN A GOOD SPOT, THAT WE MAXIMIZE OTHER PEOPLE'S DOLLARS FOR FUNDING THE PROJECT TO MOVE THAT DECISION FORWARD, A DELAY OF GETTING THAT PAPERWORK IN BY 9/1 PUTS US INTO A POTENTIAL HOPPER OF BEING IN WITH EVERYBODY ELSE, SORT OF THE NORMAL FUNDING STREAM OF PROJECTS, WHICH PUTS YOU FURTHER DOWN THE LIST.

OR IF WE MISS THAT DEADLINE, IT PUTS US COMPLETELY OUT OF THE PROJECT BUILD FOR ANOTHER YEAR.

THE WAY SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION FUNDING WORKS, WE'VE GOT TO HAVE IT IN SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, OR WE LOSE A WHOLE YEAR OF WORK ON THE PROJECT.

AND IF WE LOSE A YEAR, WE'RE THEN GETTING INTO FUNDING STREAMS THAT WE SIMPLY DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY WILL LOOK LIKE IN 29 AND 30.

[00:10:04]

SO THAT'S SORT OF THE BACKGROUND FOR WHY THE DECISIONS COMING TO THE BOARD TODAY AND WHY IT IS MOVING A LITTLE MORE QUICKLY.

SO WITH THAT, I DO WANT TO PASS TO MR. MENGEL WHO CAN INTRODUCE OUR TEAM WHO'S HERE TO KIND OF DO A PRESENTATION AND WALK THROUGH AND THEN HAVE A PRESENTATION AND THEN THE BOARD CAN ASK ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT THEY, THEY NEED TO, TO HELP GET TO THAT DECISION. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING PRESIDENT WAYMAN. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, DOCTOR SIMMONS. A LOT OF MY SAIL.

WIND HAS BEEN TAKEN OUT OF SAILS MARYLAND STADIUM AUTHORITY. I HAVE PRESENT HERE MS. DAWN SANDERS. SANDERS.

SHE'S GOING TO BE THE ALL THREE OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN DOING THIS.

OUR, ONE OF OUR CONSULTANTS IS ALSO HERE, MR. DOCTOR, DAVID LEVER FROM EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES PLANNING HE ALSO WAS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE IAC.

NOT REALLY TOO LONG AGO, PROBABLY. LESS TIME THAN WHAT YOU THINK IT IS.

[LAUGHTER]. OKAY. AND THEN ALSO AS, AS DOCTOR SIMMONS ALLUDED TO, WE ALSO SELECTED A CRABTREE ROHRBAUGH ASSOCIATES AS OUR ARCHITECT AND THEY'LL BE RUNNING, RUNNING THE SHOW WITH THAT ALONG WITH BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT'S WHO THEY ARE. SO BEHIND ME IS TODD VUKMANIC. HE'S THE PRINCIPAL AND THE SENIOR PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE BUILD. AND HE IS GOING TO KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH WHERE WE'RE AT.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING US THIS MORNING. VERY GOOD SYNOPSIS DOCTOR SIMMONS, APPRECIATE THAT.

FROM A VERY HIGH LEVEL. JUST WANT TO GIVE EVERYBODY A BRIEF OVERVIEW QUICKLY.

THE STUDY THAT DOCTOR SIMMONS MENTIONED WAS WAS FINALIZED IN JULY OF LAST YEAR.

DECEMBER MSA WAS BROUGHT ON BOARD. IT'S BEEN VERY BUSY EVER SINCE THEN.

JUNE, WE WERE BROUGHT ON BOARD THIS SUMMER. IT'S BEEN A VERY BUSY 6 TO 8 WEEKS.

WE'VE BEEN MEETING BIWEEKLY WITH THE DESIGN TEAM TO GO OVER CONCEPTS, REVIEW THE ORIGINAL FEASIBILITY STUDY AND THEN COME BACK TO THE DESIGN TEAM WITH 4 OR 5 DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR THE SITE AT THIS POINT.

AND I JUST WANT TO NOTE, I, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE SOLAR ARRAY BEING IMPERATIVE ON THAT SITE THAT, THAT DECISION HAS BEEN MADE. OKAY. SO WHEN WE STARTED OUT OUR REVIEW PROCESS, WE WANTED TO REVIEW THE THIS WAS THE SELECTED OPTION WITHIN THE STUDY. AS YOU CAN SEE, THOSE THAT SOLAR ARRAY STILL DOES REMAIN.

BUILDING WAS SITED RELATIVELY CENTRALLY LOCATED FURTHER EAST TOWARDS THE CTC AND, AND THE HIGH SCHOOL PROPERTY.

SOME OF THE INITIAL CONCERNS THAT WE HAD FROM THIS RIGHT OFF THE GET WERE, YOU KNOW, WE REALIZED THAT THERE'S A LOT OF VEHICULAR TRAFFIC CONGESTION ON RIVER ROAD AS WELL AS CENTRAL AVENUE. LOCATING ALL OF THAT IMPERVIOUS TO THAT FAR RIGHT-HAND SIDE, EASTERN PORTION REALLY DOES SATURATE THAT AREA WITH BUILDING IMPERVIOUS AS WELL AS PARKING IMPERVIOUS. THE PROPOSED MIDDLE SCHOOL IN RED IS BOUNDED ON ALL SIDES WITH PARKING AND IMPERVIOUS.

WE HAD SOME CONCERN ABOUT THAT. THE PASTURE AREA AND BARN AREA FAR LEFT DIRECTLY BELOW THE BLUE SOLAR ARRAY.

THE PROXIMITY TO THE CTC DID COME UP AS A CONCERN WHEN WE DID THE INITIAL REVIEW WITH THAT, WE THOUGHT THAT THAT PROXIMITY WAS A LITTLE REMOTE PLAY FIELDS CERTAINLY PUSHED TO THE FAR EASTERN SORRY, WESTERN PORTION OF THE SITE. DOES CREATE SORT OF AN INEQUITABLE ACCESS FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL PROPERTY AS WELL AS THE MIDDLE SCHOOL PROPERTY.

WHEN WE'RE DESIGNING THIS BUILDING, IT IS DEFINITELY SITE RELATED.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS MIDDLE SCHOOL HAS DIRECT ACCESS TO PLAY FIELDS, HAS DIRECT ACCESS TO SUPPORT SPACES CREATES ITS OWN AUTONOMOUS IDENTITY WITHIN THE SITE. AND YOU'LL SEE ON THE NEXT SLIDE, ONE OF THE LARGEST CONCERNS WE HAD THIS PROPERTY, THIS WAS A SITE ANALYSIS THAT THE ENGINEER HAD DONE VERY HIGH LEVEL.

YOU CAN SEE SORT OF THAT YELLOW DASHED LINE IN THAT CENTER OF THAT SITE THAT SORT OF BIFURCATES THOSE EASTERN AND WESTERN PORTIONS.

THAT'S A RIDGE. SO IF YOU CAN IMAGINE, THAT'S THE HIGH SPOT.

AND THEN THAT ENTIRE SITE SORT OF OVERLAND FLOWS AND SHEET FLOWS TO THE RIGHT AND TO THE LEFT HAND SIDE.

LOCATING THAT BUILDING BELOW THE STADIUM REALLY DOES SATURATE THAT RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THAT SITE WITH IMPERVIOUS.

IT FORCIBLY MAKES THE MAJORITY OF THAT STORMWATER REMAIN ON THAT SITE.

THERE'S ALREADY A LARGE AMOUNT OF STORMWATER FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL AND THE CTC, AS WELL AS ALL THE IMPERVIOUS.

IT JUST EXACERBATES THAT CONDITION. THERE'S ALSO THAT PURPLE SORT OF SWOOP THROUGH THE STADIUM SPACE.

[00:15:06]

THAT IS A CRITICAL AREA. WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO STAY OUT OF THAT SPOT.

CERTAINLY BUILDING ON THAT AREA WOULD PROLONG PERMITTING AND APPROVALS.

AND LASTLY, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE LARGEST THINGS WE SAW, WE REALLY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY WITH THESE WITH THESE HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETIC FIELDS CURRENTLY BELOW THE STADIUM. THE FEASIBILITY STUDY SORT OF HAD THOSE BEING REPURPOSED AND RELOCATED.

WE SAW AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE A LITTLE MORE ECONOMICALLY EFFICIENT RETAIN THOSE FIELDS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

UTILIZE THAT MONEY FOR EDUCATIONAL IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE BUILDING AND THE CURRICULUM WITHIN THE NEW BUILDING.

AND WE FELT THAT CENTRALIZING THESE FIELDS REALLY CREATED AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND THE HIGH SCHOOL'S FACILITIES TO SHARE THOSE FACILITIES, THOSE ATHLETIC FACILITIES CENTRALIZED WITHIN THE SITE.

SO I KNOW WHEN WE WERE REVIEWING THIS THE DESIGN TEAM, ESPECIALLY THOSE FROM CAROLINE COUNTY, STATED THAT THERE WAS VERY SENSITIVE THAT THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY SORT OF TO THE NORTH AND THE WEST HAND SIDE.

AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE RESPECTING THAT.

WAS THERE OPPORTUNITIES IF THAT PROPOSED CONCEPT WAS LOCATED ON THE WESTERN PORTION WHERE YOU SEE THAT SORT OF LARGE RED RECTANGLE THERE AS, AS THE PRIME AREA FOR LOCATING THAT.

WAS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUFFER THAT. BOTH VISUALLY WITH LANDSCAPING, LOCATE THE BUILDING, PULLING IT DOWN AS CLOSE TO CENTRAL AVENUE AS POSSIBLE, KEEPING IT AWAY FROM THAT DRAINAGE CHANNEL SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE THOSE TWO STORM WATERS ARE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OF THE SITE. THAT IS WHERE THAT MAJORITY OF THAT SHEET FLOW IS GOING TO BE HEADING.

SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE BUFFER THAT AS WELL.

AND THEN WE FELT THAT WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY IF THE BUILDING WAS LOCATED ON THIS YOU KNOW, THIS MORE WESTERN PORTION OF THE SITE THAT WE COULD SEPARATE THAT TRAFFIC FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL, MIDDLE SCHOOL. SO BUS TRAFFIC, VEHICULAR TRAFFIC COULD BE SEPARATED.

IT WOULD GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENLARGE SOME OF THESE PARKING SPACES IN FRONT OF THE NEW MIDDLE SCHOOL TO PULL BUSSES OFF OF THIS, INTERNALIZE THOSE WITHIN THIS SITE, GET THAT TRAFFIC CONGESTION OFF OF CENTRAL.

LIKEWISE WITH VEHICLE TRAFFIC FOR PARENT DROP OFF VISITORS AND STAFF ONCE AGAIN INTERNALIZE THOSE ACTIVITIES.

GET THOSE VEHICLES PULLED OFF OF CENTRAL AVE.

AND WE REALIZE AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, AND THIS WAS HIGHLIGHTED FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, THAT THERE WOULD NEED TO BE IMPROVEMENTS TO CENTRAL AVENUE, SPECIFICALLY ROAD WIDENING DUE TO INCREASED TRAFFIC.

AND AS DOCTOR SIMPSON MENTIONED, WE HAVE SLATED THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO BEGIN THAT TRAFFIC STUDY PROBABLY IN SEPTEMBER, PROBABLY MIDDLE OF SEPTEMBER. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT HE REALLY SEES THE IMPACT OF THE EXISTING TRAFFIC AT THOSE AT THOSE TWO AT THE HIGH SCHOOL AND CTC ON RIVER ROAD, AS WELL AS CENTRAL AVE.

AND HE WILL ALSO BE DOING A STUDY AT THE EXISTING LOCKERMAN TO SORT OF SEE WHAT TRAFFIC CURRENTLY EXISTS THERE AND WHAT THAT IMPACT IS GOING TO GOING TO REALLY OCCUR AT THE NEW SITE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO ONCE AGAIN, WE CAME TO THE TABLE WITH 4 OR 5 OPTIONS.

THESE ARE JUST SOME QUICK SNAPSHOTS. LOTS OF PROS AND CONS.

YOU KNOW, I CERTAINLY WON'T LAY ON THESE, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, WE WERE WITH THAT SOLAR ARRAY BEING RELOCATED, IT REALLY GAVE US A NICE OPPORTUNITY ONCE AGAIN TO CENTRALIZE THAT GREEN SPACE BETWEEN THOSE TWO.

YOU KNOW, SUCH ITEMS AS WHERE DOES THAT BARN AND PASTURE LAND.

IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOCATE IT CLOSER TO CTC WOULD CERTAINLY BE OPTIMAL.

SOME OF THESE OPTIONS, YOU CAN SEE THAT BUILDING REALLY WAS RESTING IN THAT UPPER LEFT HAND QUADRANT.

THAT'S A PROBLEM. YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IT'S VERY, VERY CLOSE TO THE BOUNDING BORDER.

I MEAN, WE'RE CERTAINLY WITHIN OUR SETBACK RESTRICTIONS FOR THE AREA.

SO THESE WOULD HAVE MET THE ORDINANCE. BUT ONCE AGAIN, SOME OF THE CONS TO THESE THAT WERE BROUGHT UP BY THE DESIGN TEAM WERE, IS THERE ANY WAY TO PULL THAT CLOSER TO THE ROAD? IS THERE ANY WAY TO GET THAT AWAY FROM THOSE OUTSIDE BOUNDARIES? AND IS THERE ANY WAY TO CONSOLIDATE AND MAKE THE PARKING SPACES A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFICIENT? NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND WE CAN, THESE ARE JUST SOME FLOOR PLANS SHOWING YOU SOME OF THE INEFFICIENCIES WITHIN THE BUILDING.

SOME OF THESE OPTIONS REALLY HAD A VERY INEFFICIENT SECOND FLOOR.

SOME OF THESE OPTIONS FACE THE WRONG DIRECTION FOR LEED, FOR SOLAR CONTROL AND HARVESTING.

SOME OF THEM JUST REALLY WEREN'T THAT EFFICIENT AS FAR AS LOCATION OF CLASSROOM WINGS TO ONE ANOTHER.

ALL IN ALL, WE WERE ALWAYS SHOOTING FOR MAKING SURE THAT SIX, SEVEN AND EIGHT HAD THEIR OWN INDIVIDUALITY, THAT TEAMING WAS GOING TO WORK AT MIDDLE SCHOOL LEVEL.

THAT SIXTH GRADE COULD HAVE ITS OWN SORT OF INDEPENDENT CLASSROOM SPACE.

THAT CORE SUPPORT SPACES WERE CENTRALIZED FOR EQUITABLE ACCESS FROM CLASSROOMS TO LIKE ART, TECHNOLOGY, MEDIA CENTER. THAT CAFETERIA AND GYMNASIUM SPACE HAD A DIRECT OPPORTUNITY TO GO OUT TO,

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WHETHER THAT'S DEDICATED PLAY FIELDS OR RECESS AREA.

SO CERTAINLY THOSE WERE A VERY HIGH LEVEL CONCERNS AND FOCUS ON THESE CONCEPTS.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO WE WENT BACK TO THE TABLE AND THIS IS LITERALLY A SKETCH FROM THE DESIGN DIRECTOR WHEN WE WERE LOOKING THROUGH IT.

AND WE WERE TRYING TO ONCE AGAIN MAXIMIZE EFFICIENCY.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THOSE CLASSROOM WINGS TO THE NORTH, EXTREMELY EFFICIENT.

THEY STACK VERY EFFICIENTLY. ART AND TECH WILL BE CENTRALIZED WITHIN THAT SORT OF THAT VERTICAL YELLOW MAIN STREET CAFETERIA AND STAGE AND PERFORMANCE WITH KITCHEN AND SERVICE TO THE LEFT AND THEN LARGER GYMNASIUMS HEALTH CLASSROOMS TO THE RIGHT.

AND THEN VERY CENTRAL AND UP FRONT IS THAT MAIN ENTRANCE WITH THE RED ARROW ADMINISTRATION AND HEALTH COMMUNITY SERVICES.

EVERYTHING IS UP FRONT, CREATES A VERY CLEAN ENTRANCEWAY, WHICH IS CERTAINLY IMPROVING ON SAFETY AND THIS TYPE OF DESIGN, WE CAN ACTUALLY LOCK DOWN AND CLOSE OFF PRIVATIZED AREAS OF CLASSROOMS AND EDUCATIONAL SPACES WHEN THAT BUILDING IS UTILIZED IN THE EVENING FOR COMMUNITY USE.

NEXT SLIDE. SO THIS WAS THE OPTION THAT WE HAD COME UP WITH.

AS YOU CAN SEE, ONCE AGAIN, CENTRALIZED. WE MAINTAIN THE FIELDS BELOW THE STADIUM.

WE RELOCATED THE PASTURE AND BARN TO THE TO THE RIGHT OF THOSE FIELDS BELOW THE STADIUM.

IT'S NOW DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE TO THE CTC AND THAT SUPPORT PARKING LOT TO THE LEFT OF THOSE FIELDS.

WE'VE EXTENDED THAT CURRENT DRIVE THAT'S IN THERE NOW.

I BELIEVE IT'S A GRAVEL DRIVE. WE'RE LOOKING AT WAYS TO IMPROVE AND EXTEND THAT TO OFFER, ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR SPORTING EVENTS, WHETHER THAT'S DURING THE DAY OR IN THE EVENINGS OR OFF SCHOOL TIME FOR COMMUNITY USE.

IT REALLY ALSO AFFORDS US AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE REGULATION SIZE FIELDS, SOCCER FIELDS, LACROSSE FIELDS, FIELD HOCKEY, DEDICATED SOFTBALL FIELD TO THE NORTH.

OPPORTUNITIES FOR SOME. SOME OUTDOOR LEARNING AND PRACTICE FIELDS.

ONCE AGAIN, AS YOU CAN SEE NOW, THE HIGH SCHOOL AND MIDDLE SCHOOL HAVE VERY, VERY EQUITABLE ACCESS TO THOSE CENTRALIZED SPACES.

TENNIS COURTS AT THE HIGH SCHOOL WOULD BE RE REDONE AND REPURPOSED AND RENOVATED.

WE'RE CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO EXPAND ON THOSE BECAUSE OF THAT CRITICAL AREA THERE.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT LOCATING TWO ADDITIONAL TENNIS COURTS.

AS YOU CAN SEE, SORT OF RIGHT ABOVE THAT BUS LOOP AND THEN SOME DEDICATED PLAY FIELDS AND RECESS AREAS AROUND THAT REALLY SUPPORT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL ONLY.

THIS WAS A NICE IMPROVEMENT FROM THAT FEASIBILITY STUDY, WHICH, YOU KNOW, SLAMMING THAT SCHOOL UP AGAINST THAT PARKING LOT REALLY DID NOT AFFORD AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ACCESS TO SOME OF THESE PLAY FIELDS.

THEY REALLY JUST HAD ACCESS TO, TO MACADAM AND SOME PARKING LOTS.

YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE PEDESTRIAN SIDEWALKS AND ACCESS WAYS BETWEEN THOSE HIGH SCHOOL CTC AND MIDDLE SCHOOL CONNECTING THAT SORT OF CENTRAL AREA.

AND THEN THE BIGGEST THING I'LL HIGHLIGHT IS THE BUS LOOP IN THE FRONT AND THAT BUS DROP.

I KNOW WE'RE LOOKING, AND THIS IS. HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AS, AS EARLY AS LAST WEEK AT OUR DESIGN MEETING ABOUT THE NUMBER OF BUSSES, I BELIEVE IT WAS 47 PLUS 5. WE'RE LOOKING AT SEEING IF WE CAN EVEN INCREASE THAT TO GET THAT UP TO CLOSE TO 55 TOTAL.

BUT YOU CAN SEE IT REALLY PROVIDES THOSE BUSSES OPPORTUNITY FOR STACKING, WHETHER THAT'S WITHIN THE LOOP OR PARKING WITHIN THAT PARKING LOT.

THAT BUS PARKING LOT COULD THEN BE ALSO REPURPOSED AND USED AFTER HOURS BY COMMUNITY FOR SOFTBALL GAMES, LACROSSE GAMES, SOCCER GAMES. SO ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE PROVIDING ADDITIONAL PARKING THAT GETS THAT THAT, THAT CONGESTION OFF OF CENTRAL AVE AND THEN TO THE FAR LEFT CORNER, THAT WOULD BE THE PARENT DROP OFF.

YOU CAN SEE ONCE AGAIN WE'RE QUEUING CARS COMING IN.

IT'S THE FURTHEST DISTANCE FROM WHERE THE BUSSES COME IN.

THEY CAN NOW ENTER THAT KIND OF LOOP THE ENTIRE WAY AROUND, LOOP BACK ACROSS AND LOOP BACK DOWN.

SO THAT IS MUCH LONGER THAN THE THAT SMALL SORT OF DEDICATED PARENT DROP OFF THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY SHOWN IN THE FEASIBILITY STUDY.

WE FELT THAT SYSTEM WOULD REALLY KIND OF SET YOU UP FOR FAILURE, SIMILAR TO THE CONGESTION THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL WITH THAT PARENT DROP OFF. SO IT JUST SEEMS, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S ABOUT, I THINK WE TOOK SOME QUICK DIMENSIONS.

WE'RE ABOUT 240 LINEAR FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE AT THE NORTH, OR ABOUT 100 LINEAR FEET AT THE FURTHEST EXTENSION OF THE CLASSROOM WING TO THE PROPERTY LINE. WE DID LOOK THERE WAS THAT THAT EXISTING SWALE TO THE LEFT OF THE PROPERTY LINE THAT WAS FROM THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY.

IT'S, IT'S ABOUT 400FT FROM THE ROAD TO THAT PORTION OF THE BUILDING.

DOWN AT THAT, AT THAT PARKING AND SERVICE AREA THERE.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE AROUND TO THE NORTH AND THE, AND THE WEST HAND SIDE, WE'RE, WE'RE PROPOSING LOOKING AT SOME, SOME LANDSCAPE BUFFERING TO HELP SOFTEN THAT A BIT.

CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE ONLY IN ABOUT SIX, 6 TO 8 WEEKS.

WE'RE STILL IN CONCEPT IN THROUGH SCHEMATICS.

WE'RE SHOOTING FOR SEPTEMBER 1ST. SITE SURVEY IS CURRENTLY OCCURRING RIGHT NOW.

SO WE'LL HAVE A MUCH MORE ENGINEERED DRAWING OPPORTUNITY OVER THE NEXT FEW TWO, THREE, FOUR WEEKS TO START LOOKING AT TOPOGRAPHY AND UTILITIES AND EXACTLY WHERE THIS

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BUILDING SPECIFICALLY LANDS. DOCTOR SIMMONS MENTIONED THOSE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE GEOTECHNICAL TEST BORINGS GOING OUT, TESTING THE SOILS. WE'RE CERTAINLY GOING TO HAVE THAT TRAFFIC STUDY LOOKING AT THE CURRENT CONDITIONS, MAKING SURE THAT WE'VE GOT SITE VIEWING, MAKING SURE THAT DISTANCE BETWEEN THOSE PARKING LOT ENTRANCES AND EGRESS ARE CERTAINLY GOING TO WORK.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALREADY BEEN IN DISCUSSION. WITH CAROLINE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS ABOUT SEQUENCING, BUS PICKUP AND PARENT DROP OFF PICKUP. CERTAINLY AT THE HIGH SCHOOL AND MIDDLE SCHOOL SHOULD BE SEQUENCED AT DIFFERENT OCCASIONS AT DIFFERENT TIMELINES.

AND I'M GOING TO JUST QUICKLY GO THROUGH THIS.

THIS IS HOW WE GENERATE THESE CONCEPTS. WE TAKE THE PROGRAM THAT THAT DOCTOR LEVER AND DEB SZYFER HAD COME TOGETHER WITH AND PRODUCED.

AND WE'RE CREATING SORT OF A, A VISUAL WITH THAT.

AND HOW DO THESE KITS AND PARTS GO INTO OUR CONCEPT.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS WOULD BE OUR QUICK BUBBLE DIAGRAM.

AS YOU CAN SEE TEAM GRADES ARE VERY, VERY INTUITIVE FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL.

WE'VE GOT SHARED CORE SUPPORT BETWEEN EACH GRADE BAND.

AT THIS POINT, THEY'RE VERY FLEXIBLE. THEY'RE IDENTICAL.

SO THERE REALLY IS NO DEDICATED SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT.

HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, IF SIXTH GRADE WANTS TO HAVE SORT OF THAT AUTONOMOUS LOCATION, THEY COULD CERTAINLY BE LOCATED ON THE RIGHT ON THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL FLOOR LEVEL TO KEEP THEM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, IT'S MORE OF A SENSITIVE GRADE LEVEL DEMOGRAPHIC.

[INAUDIBLE] AND VISUAL ARTS CENTRALLY LOCATED BETWEEN THOSE TWO FOR EQUITABLE ACCESS.

AND THEN AS YOU COME DOWN, AS I MENTIONED, THAT MAIN ENTRANCE POINT, THAT LARGE RED ARROW COMING IN, SINGLE SOURCE, CLEARLY IDENTIFIABLE MAIN ENTRANCE SPACE ADMINISTRATION AND COMMUNITY UP FRONT.

SO YOU'VE GOT ADMIN WITH NIGHT SIGHT SURVEILLANCE, YOU KNOW, CHECKING IN WHO'S COMING IN.

IT'S VERY CLEAR AND INTUITIVE WITH THOSE TWO PARKING AREAS WHERE PUBLIC IS, IS ACCESSING THIS BUILDING.

SO YOU'VE GOT A VERY NICE CLEAR SEPARATION OF PUBLIC SPACE AT THE FRONT VERSUS PRIVATE SPACE IN THE BACK MEDIA CENTER.

AND THIS OPTION WOULD BE LOCATED ON THE SECOND FLOOR OVER ADMIN ONCE AGAIN GIVES YOU A NICE OPPORTUNITY FOR A VISUAL.

ALSO GIVES YOU A NICE OPPORTUNITY FOR ACCESS, EQUITABLE ACCESS FROM BOTH GRADES.

SO THIS GIVES YOU JUST AN IDEA OF A VERY HIGH LEVEL CONCEPT OF THE STACKING OF THIS MASS.

YOU CAN SEE THE GYMNASIUM SPACE ON THE RIGHT, DIRECT ACCESS TO THOSE PLAY FIELDS THAT ARE CENTRALLY LOCATED.

MEDIA CENTER STACKING OVER THE FRONT ENTRANCE ONCE AGAIN HIGHLIGHTS THAT MAIN ENTRANCE SPACE, CAFETERIA AND SUPPORT TO THE LEFT OF THAT WITH THAT NICE CLEAN VERTICAL HALLWAY COMING UP THROUGH WITH YOUR STEAM, YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOUR ARTS, YOUR VISUAL ARTS, YOUR, YOUR TECHNOLOGY.

AND THEN YOUR ACADEMIC GRADE BAND CREATES A NICE INTUITIVE, SECURED OUTDOOR LEARNING OPPORTUNITY ON BOTH SIDES OF THOSE CLASSROOMS. THE ONE ON THE LEFT COULD ALSO BE AN OUTDOOR EATING. YOU HAVE DIRECT ACCESS FROM THE CAFETERIA SPACE.

SO NICE OPPORTUNITIES. AS I ALWAYS SAY, BACK IN 20 2021, WE WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, GIVEN OUR EYE TEETH TO HAVE OPEN OUTDOOR LEARNING SPACE OPPORTUNITIES FOR STUDENTS. SO WE FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A NICE ADDITION TO THE CURRICULUM.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS JUST GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF HOW THAT MASS IS GOING TO DROP ONTO THAT BUILDING.

I'M SORRY. ONTO THAT SITE. AND THEN ONCE AGAIN THAT YOU CAN SEE HOW THE DEDICATED DROP OFF LOOPS FOR THE PARKING FOR VISITOR PARKING, STAFF PARKING. EVERYBODY'S REALLY NICE UP IN FRONT.

I DON'T HAVE ROADWAYS KIND OF WINDING AROUND THE BUILDING TRYING TO GAIN ACCESS.

YOU KNOW, IT REALLY AFFORDS A NICE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOME PLAY AREAS AND OPEN GRASS SPACE TO THE NORTH.

AS FAR AS AND TO THE EAST. CENTRALLY LOCATED NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

JUST. SURE. TO LOOK THROUGH IT SO IT'S JUST REALLY CONSOLIDATES THE PARKING AT THE FRONT.

AS I MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER, THE OTHER OPTION SORT OF HAD ALL THREE SIDES BOUNDED.

SO IT GAVE YOU VERY LIMITED AREA OF GROWTH. IT SORT OF REALLY JUST CREATED LACK OF OPPORTUNITY FOR DIRECT ACCESS FROM THE MIDDLE SCHOOL TO THEIR OWN DEDICATED PLAY AREAS, THEIR OWN DEDICATED RECESS AREAS, AS WELL AS TO THAT CENTRALIZED PLAY FIELDS LOCATED TO THE RIGHT.

THANK YOU. AND AS THAT, AS WE ENGINEER THE, THE SITE PLAN, THESE CERTAINLY WILL BE UP TO DATE.

YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE BUS LOOP. DOES THAT STILL WANT TO HAVE IT IN IT AND OUT. DOESN'T WANT TO HAVE A DEDICATED IN WITH A LOOP COMING OUT TO KEEP THOSE ENTRANCES FROM THE VEHICLES TO THE BUSSES AS SEPARATE AS POSSIBLE.

SO LIKE DETAILS LIKE THAT ARE CERTAINLY GOING TO BE ADDRESSED QUICKLY, JUST AT A HIGH LEVEL.

I'M ONE OF FIVE CPTED DESIGN PROFESSIONALS. THAT'S CRIME PREVENTION THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN.

WE DON'T HAVE TIME. I COULD SPEND AN HOUR ON THIS, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS REALLY ABOUT A HOLISTIC DESIGN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE HARDENING, TO CREATE LAYERING WITHIN THE BUILDING, TO OPTIMIZE SITE SURVEILLANCE.

AND MY BIGGEST THING IS SEPARATION OF PRIVATE AND PUBLIC SPACE.

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AND THAT'S WITHIN THE BUILDING THAT'S WITHIN THE SITE. WE DO NOT WANT TO HAVE ANY AMBIGUITY AS TO WHERE PRIVATE AND PUBLIC SPACE STARTS AND ENDS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE KIND OF TROUBLE BEGINS. AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT COMMUNITY BUY IN, WE'VE GOT BUY IN FROM THE STAFF AND THE STUDENTS.

THAT CERTAINLY HELPS REDUCE OPPORTUNITIES FOR, FOR, FOR BAD BEHAVIOR.

NEXT SLIDE. WE ARE CERTAINLY GOING TO BE DESIGNING THIS BUILDING TO HIGH SUSTAINABILITY.

WE'VE GOT 42 LEED CERTIFIED PROJECTS. CURRENTLY 12 OF THOSE ARE AT MARYLAND MIDDLE SCHOOLS.

AND JUST I KNOW I DON'T WANT TO RUN LONG ON SOME OF THESE SLIDES, BUT WE ARE CERTAINLY GOING TO BE EVALUATING SYSTEMS WITHIN THE BUILDING, MAKING SURE THAT THOSE SYSTEMS ARE HIGHLY EFFICIENT, MAKING SURE THE BUILDING IS SITED. I MENTIONED THAT EARLIER ABOUT THE LOCATION OF THIS CLASSROOM WING FOR PROPER SOLAR ORIENTATION, FOR MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE TRUE NORTH TO SOUTH.

THAT'S MUCH EASIER TO CONTROL SUNLIGHT WITHIN THOSE CLASSROOMS MAKING SURE THAT THE BUILDING IS DESIGNED WITH A HIGHLY EFFICIENT BUILDING ENVELOPE MAKING SURE THAT ALL OF THE SYSTEMS WITHIN THE BUILDING MECHANICAL, PLUMBING, ELECTRICAL ARE HIGHLY EFFICIENT AND USING AS MUCH RENEWABLE ENERGY SOURCES AS POSSIBLE AND TRYING NOT TO WASTE ENERGY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

JUST TO MAKE SURE ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS UNDERSTAND.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE ACRONYM LEED AND GG? THAT'S A GOOD ONE.

IS IT LEADERSHIP AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I HAVEN'T HAD TO EXPLAIN THAT ONE IN PROBABLY 20 YEARS [LAUGHTER] SINCE IT CAME OUT.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL. AND THERE'S MULTIPLE ONES. YES. THERE'S LEED. THERE'S ALSO GREEN GLOBES.

THERE'S A HANDFUL OF SUSTAINABLE CERTIFICATES THAT CAN BE ACHIEVED.

LEED IS ONE OF THE EARLIER ONES THAT CAME OUT.

I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE MOST ROBUST. I THINK IT'S EXCELLENT.

THEY'VE GOT AND I APOLOGIZE, I SHOULD HAVE WRITTEN THAT MORE DETAIL. THEY HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT LAYERS OF SILVER, GOLD AS WELL AS PLATINUM. AND WE HAVE ACTUALLY ACHIEVED PLATINUM ON SEVERAL SCHOOLS IN THE PAST SO.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APOLOGIES. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

OH THIS IS EXCELLENT. WE ARE CERTAINLY GOING TO BE INCORPORATING THE LOCKERMAN HISTORICAL DISPLAY OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE SCHOOL.

SO AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, FROM A VERY HIGH LEVEL, WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT CENTRALIZED LOBBY SPACE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S A NICE OPPORTUNITY. IT NEEDS TO BE LARGE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT, A LOT OF VOLUME OF STUDENTS COMING THROUGH, WHETHER THAT'S FROM THE CAFETERIA, THE CLASSROOM WING, THE GYMNASIUM SPACE.

SO THAT CENTRALIZED LOBBY HAS TO BE LARGE TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE STUDENTS.

SO WHY NOT TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCORPORATE THIS WITHIN THAT SPACE? AND THEN NOT ONLY STUDENTS EXPERIENCE THIS ON A DAILY LEVEL WHEN THEY'RE ENTERING THE SCHOOL, BUT COMMUNITY CAN EXPERIENCE THIS, WHETHER IT'S AFTER HOURS OR WHETHER IT'S THOSE FOLKS COMING IN AND VISITING THE SCHOOL PARENTS, PEOPLE COMING IN. SO THAT LOBBY SPACE HAS A FANTASTIC OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THIS IN, PLEASE.

NEXT SLIDE. THESE ARE JUST SOME VERY HIGH LEVEL IMAGERY THAT WE KIND OF INCORPORATED VERY EARLY INTO OUR CONCEPT, AS YOU CAN SEE, AS I AS I MENTIONED, THAT LOBBY SPACE HAS TO BE LARGE AND HAVE A LARGE AMOUNT OF VOLUME TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE NUMBER OF STUDENTS AS WELL AS, AS VISITORS AND COMMUNITY USE.

SO ONCE AGAIN, WE'LL BE DEVELOPING THESE THROUGH DESIGN DEVELOPMENT.

THANK YOU. NEXT SLIDE. JUST ANOTHER SHOT. YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT'S SOME GRAPHIC WALL ART.

MAYBE THAT'S SOME KIOSKS WAYFINDING OPPORTUNITIES.

WHICH LEADS ME TO THIS NEXT SLIDE. WE WERE VERY SUCCESSFUL AT KENT COUNTY MIDDLE SCHOOL WITH SOME OF THIS WAYFINDING.

AND WE DID, THERE WAS, WE INCORPORATED THE WATER, THE NICE HISTORICAL CENTRAL COMMUNITY IN TOWN, VERY RURAL AREAS WITHIN THAT. LEA AS WELL. SO WE'RE INCORPORATING RATHER THAN HAVING, AS YOU CAN SEE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES BACK IN THE DAY, WE WOULD JUST HAVE A BIG GREEN WALL WITH A LARGE NUMBER.

AND THAT MEANT I WAS IN THE EIGHTH GRADE WELL, NOW AT THIS POINT, WE CAN NOW START TO INCORPORATE SOME IMAGERY.

SO IT BRINGS IN THAT SORT OF LOCAL FLAVOR. IT CREATES THAT IDENTITY FOR THOSE STUDENTS.

AND AT THE LAST SLIDE, I'LL TALK ABOUT HOW WE ACTUALLY INVOLVE SOME OF THOSE COMMUNITY I'M SORRY, STUDENTS AND COMMUNITY INTO THAT DECISION MAKING.

SO QUICKLY, WE'RE JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH SOME JUST EXAMPLES FROM SOME PREVIOUS WORK THAT WE'VE DONE.

THIS IS THAT LARGE CENTRALIZED LOBBY SPACE THAT I HAD MENTIONED, JUST SOME AREAS AND OPPORTUNITIES.

CERTAINLY OUR SCHOOL IS GOING TO LOOK MUCH DIFFERENT THAN THESE, BUT GIVES YOU GUYS AN IDEA OF SORT OF WHAT THAT CENTRALIZED SPACE COULD POTENTIALLY LOOK LIKE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO MEDIA CENTER OPPORTUNITIES, AS I MENTIONED, IT'S ON THE SECOND FLOOR, GIVES YOU AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A LITTLE BIT OF A HIGHER MASS AND VOLUME WITHIN THAT SPACE.

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AS YOU CAN SEE, LIKE MEDIA CENTERS ARE NOW JUST NOT ABOUT STACKS AND BOOKS.

THEY'RE MORE ABOUT STUDENT INTERACTION, ESPECIALLY AT THAT MIDDLE SCHOOL LEVEL. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

CAFETERIA IN THIS INSTANCE, CAFETERIA WITH A STAGE FOR PERFORMING TOP LEFT AREA.

AS YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE OTHER CAFETERIA SPACES, A LITTLE MORE VOLUME AND AIR SOME DRAMATIC SPACE FOR THESE STUDENTS TO USE FOR CAFETERIA AND EATING AS WELL AS PERFORMING.

THIS WOULD BE THE TECHNOLOGY SPACE, THOSE STEAM SPACES AND STEM SPACES.

SOME OF THESE SPACES ARE A LITTLE MORE, YOU KNOW, LIKE HANDS ON, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE OTHER SPACES ARE A LITTLE MORE TECHNOLOGY AND DIGITALLY FOCUSED AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, THAT STEAM CURRICULUM, BUT ONCE AGAIN, CREATING NICE, LARGE, EXCITING SPACES FOR THESE STUDENTS TO LEARN.

NEXT SLIDE. GYMNASIUM SPACE. WE DO HAVE A FULL SIZED GYM ON THIS SPACE AS WELL AS A SMALL GYM.

JUST GIVING YOU GUYS SORT OF AN IDEA OF A TASTE OF SOME OF THESE SCHOOLS AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL LEVEL THAT WE'VE SEEN WITH THESE FULL SIZE GYMS AND THEN THOSE OUTDOOR SPACES, AS I MENTIONED, THEY JUST DON'T NEED TO BE JUST AN OUTDOOR GRASS AREA THAT HAS TO BE MAINTAINED.

THESE CAN BE ACTUALLY UTILIZED FOR EDUCATIONAL CURRICULUM.

I REALLY LIKE THEM FROM A CPTED STANDPOINT BECAUSE IT CREATES ACTIVITY GENERATING.

SO SOMETIMES THESE SPACES IN THE BACK OF THE SCHOOL ARE A LITTLE MORE PRIVATE OR A LITTLE LESS USED.

THIS CREATES ACTIVITY, GETS EYES ON THE STREETS.

IT CREATES OPPORTUNITIES FOR, FOR SURVEILLANCE FROM STUDENTS AS WELL AS TEACHERS.

AND IT DISSUADES POOR ACTIVITY AS WELL. AND THEN AS I MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT THE WAYFINDING AT KENT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING IN STUDENT ENGAGEMENT.

WE'VE DONE THIS SEVERAL TIMES AT DIFFERENT SCHOOLS, AS MOST RECENTLY AT KENT.

WE HAD A PHOTO CONTEST WHERE THOSE STUDENTS CAME IN AND THEY GAVE US PHOTOGRAPHS FROM THEIR COMMUNITY THAT THEY FELT WAS IMPORTANT.

AND WE UTILIZED THOSE PHOTOGRAPHS AS A DESIGN IMPETUS TO SORT OF COME UP WITH OUR WAYFINDING GRAPHICS.

WE HAD COMPETITIONS, WE HAD A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE AWARD CEREMONY AT ONE OF THE BOARD MEETINGS.

AND IT CERTAINLY CREATES THAT, THAT SORT OF TIE IN WITH THE STUDENTS AND THE COMMUNITY.

OKAY. SO HIGH LEVEL, THIS IS, I THINK THE LAST SLIDE.

AT THIS POINT WE WOULD PROBABLY BE SOMETIME EARLY NEXT YEAR, WINTER, EARLY WINTER OF 27 FOR THE NEXT COMMUNITY MEETING.

THAT WOULD BE AFTER DOCTOR SIMMONS MENTIONED WE ARE GOING HOPEFULLY FOR THIS SCHEMATIC ISSUANCE IN EARLY SEPTEMBER. AND THEN THAT GIVES US THE BALANCE OF THE FALL TO DO THIS DESIGN DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS MUCH MORE ENGINEERED DRAWINGS, TAKING THOSE STUDIES AND THOSE TESTS, INCORPORATING THOSE INTO THE DESIGN, HAVING FACULTY MEETINGS IN THE EARLY FALL WITH THE FACULTY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CLASSROOMS ARE LAID OUT CORRECTLY, THAT THE FURNITURE IS GOING TO WORK, THAT THE FLOW LOGISTICALLY, THESE MIDDLE SCHOOL CLASSROOMS ARE GOING TO WORK. SO I THINK BY EARLY PROBABLY JANUARY ISH OF 27, WE WOULD BE PREPARED TO COME BACK WITH ANOTHER COMMUNITY MEETING SHOWING MUCH MORE REFINED DRAWINGS, SOME RENDERINGS, MAYBE SOME SOME DIGITAL WALKTHROUGHS THROUGH THE BUILDING TO GIVE EVERYBODY AN IDEA OF HOW THE BUILDING IS GOING TO WORK.

THAT THAT DESIGN EFFORT WILL CONTINUE ALL THE WAY THROUGH BASICALLY THIS TIME NEXT YEAR.

WE WOULD THEN BID THAT PROJECT OUT AND THEN START CONSTRUCTION AT THIS POINT ON THIS SCHEDULE.

IN THE FALL, LATE SUMMER, EARLY FALL OF 27 CONSTRUCTION WILL SPAN ALL THE WAY OUT THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THE SPRING AND SUMMER OF 29 WITH THE ANTICIPATION OF AUGUST 29TH TO HAVE FINAL, SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION BUILDING CLEANED.

EVERYBODY MOVED IN AND, AND START OF SCHOOL IN AUGUST THE 29 I THINK THAT IS IT. YES. SO I HOPE I DIDN'T GO LONG.

I APOLOGIZE IF I DID, [LAUGHTER] I GET A LITTLE EXCITED.

AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT, A LOT OF STUFF HERE TO, TO TALK ABOUT.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND AT THIS POINT, WE ARE OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.

YEAH. BUT CAN WE GO BACK TO THE. THE SLIDE. I THINK IT WILL BE HELPFUL TO HAVE IT UP IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LAYOUT YEAH. ARE YOU COMFORTABLE IF I HAVE A QUESTION AROUND THE FEASIBILITY FIRST THE FEASIBILITY DESIGN CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING, AND I THINK IT DEFINITELY IS WORTH TALKING ABOUT, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR TRANSPORTATION FOLKS AS WELL. SO OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL CAMPUS ON THE SOUTHERN END OF THE COUNTY CO-LOCATE A MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL ON THE SAME CAMPUS. AND THE ORIGINAL THOUGHT PROCESS DURING FEASIBILITY WAS, WOULD THERE BE A WAY TO CREATE A ONE UNIVERSAL BUS LOOP THAT WOULD SERVE BOTH SCHOOLS?

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AND I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT AND THERE ARE CHALLENGES WITH THAT, BUT I THINK IT'S WORTHY OF US HAVING THAT DISCUSSION PUBLICLY OF WHAT ARE THE CHALLENGES OF TRYING TO ONE BUS LOOP THAT LOCATION. SO WITH THE BUILDING CLOSE BY, PUTTING YOUR BUS LOOP IN THE BACK OF NORTH CAROLINE HIGH SCHOOL BETWEEN NORTH CAROLINE HIGH AND LOCKERMAN, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THOSE CHALLENGES MAY BE, THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT IF WE WERE TO DO THAT. YEAH.

AND AS.

THE LOOP, JUST LOOKING AT THE I KNOW THE HIGH SCHOOL CAME UP AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING.

YEAH. THE INEFFICIENCIES OF THE BUS. YEAH. AND THE AMOUNT OF CONGESTION AND THE AMOUNT OF STACKING AND THE AMOUNT OF STACKING THAT OCCURS ON HERE.

THERE WAS ALSO SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT DURING SOFTBALL GAMES, THE AMOUNT OF CONGESTION ON CENTRAL AVENUE.

AND AS I MENTIONED EARLY ON, YOU KNOW, LOCATING THIS, ALL OF THIS IMPERVIOUS AND ALL OF THIS PARKING AND BUS AND PARENT DROP OFF VEHICULAR TRAFFIC ALONG THIS INTERSECTION, THIS KNUCKLE IS GOING TO EXACERBATE THAT CONDITION THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.

SO SEPARATING THOSE WOULD CERTAINLY ALLEVIATE THAT, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE CREATING, AS I MENTIONED, LIKE THIS, THIS PARENT DROP OFF IS PROBABLY OURS IS AT LEAST 30, MAYBE 40% LARGER.

IT JUST GETS MORE CARS OFF OF THAT. THIS DESIGN HAS THIS, THESE GUYS KIND OF BOUNDED ON ALL THREE SIDES BY IMPERVIOUS, REALLY PREVENTING ANY EXPANSION, REALLY NOT HAVING A NICE OPPORTUNITY FOR DIRECT ACCESS TO THESE PLAYFIELDS CERTAINLY LAND LOCKS FOR HIGH SCHOOL, FOR HAVING DIRECT ACCESS TO THESE, FOR THESE SO WE WERE LOOKING AT VERY HIGH LEVEL, IT JUST MADE A LOT OF SENSE TO SORT OF LOCATED HERE, CREATE A SORT OF AUTONOMOUS IDENTITY WITH THAT, SEPARATE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.

BUT THAT THAT MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL BUS AND OR PARENT DROP OFF WOULD NEED TO BE STAGGERED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE THAT, SO THE OPTION WE WERE LOOKING AT WAS ONCE AGAIN CREATING LARGER OPPORTUNITIES TO GET THOSE FOLKS OFF OF THE ROAD AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TRYING TO MAINTAIN AS MUCH GREEN SPACE I MEAN, I THINK YOU CAN GO TO OURS, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT AT LEAST 30% MORE GREEN SPACE ON THE SITE WHAT I THINK ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS THAT WAS CREATED JUST CREATED A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFICIENTLY.

AND WE CAN ONCE AGAIN REPURPOSE THOSE FUNDS INTO EDUCATIONAL USES RATHER THAN JUST LOOKING AT IT FROM SITE DEVELOPMENT COSTS COULD I ADD SOMETHING HERE? SURE. I THINK THE QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT.

THE NEXT ONE. YEAH. THAT'S FIRST OF ALL, THE FEASIBILITY STUDY THAT WAS DONE BY THE FORMER ARCHITECTURAL FIRM THE CONSTRAINT THERE WAS THE SOLAR FIELD THAT YOU EITHER HAD TO LOCATE THE SCHOOL OFF THE FIELD THERE OR OVER HERE.

AND EITHER WAY, THERE ARE HUGE COMPROMISES.

IT FREED UP THE SITE ENORMOUSLY. BUT IT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION WHEN YOU HAVE AN INTERNAL GROUP.

AND I THINK WHEN YOU START TO LOOK AT FIRST OF ALL, YOU CAN'T HAVE A HIGH SCHOOL FOR THIS SITE, WHICH MEANS THAT THE BUSSES WOULD HAVE TO COME AROUND VERY TIGHT.

THAT WOULD REALLY UPSET THE WHOLE ARRANGEMENT OF THE POSSIBILITY OF HAVING A KIND OF INTERNAL SPORTS COMPLEX.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY LOOK AT, BUT I THINK THAT IT REALLY JUST SUGGESTS THAT IT'S A VERY, VERY DIFFICULT THING TO ACHIEVE, RIGHT? AND THAT'S WHERE THE TRAFFIC STUDY IS GOING TO BE ABSOLUTELY KEY TO RESOLVING NOT ONLY WHAT HAPPENS ON THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, BUT ALSO WHAT HAPPENS ON THE HIGH SCHOOL SIDE.

IT'S NOT A HEALTHY SITUATION LIKE THAT. YOU KNOW, THAT REALLY DOES HAVE TO BE RESOLVED.

VERY HARD TO NOT TO HAVE ANY CROSS TRAFFIC BETWEEN VEHICLES, BUSSES AND OR STUDENT GOING ACROSS THE SITE.

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AND UNFORTUNATELY THEN YOU HAD OPPORTUNITIES FOR STUDENTS TO CROSS TRAFFIC, WHETHER THAT'S SERVICE DRIVING, WHETHER THAT'S BUS TRAFFIC.

CREATING A BACKSLIDE LOOP THROUGH, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE, BUT IF YOU COULD MAKE IT WORK, YOU STILL THEN WOULD BE CREATING AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THAT ROADWAY.

WHEREAS NOW OBVIOUSLY ALL OF THAT PARKING AND THAT IS PULLED AWAY FROM THE SCHOOL AND THE STUDENTS DON'T HAVE THAT CHALLENGE.

THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT I HEARD WAS ASKING THE QUESTION.

SO I THINK JUST A COUPLE COMMENTS. I, I AGREE THAT STUDENT DROP OFF AT THE BACK OF SCHOOL IS INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT.

IT'S NOT SET UP FOR SAFE ENTRY. WE DON'T MONITOR IT AS HEAVILY AS WE DO THE BACK.

AND JUST FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE.

SUPPORT EITHER BUS DROP OFF BEHIND NORTH CAROLINE HIGH SCHOOL.

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF WE STAGGER IT. THERE WILL BE CRISSCROSS BUS TRAFFIC AT THAT INTERSECTION, MOVING FROM ONE SCHOOL TO ANOTHER, ALONG WITH SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC FOR DROP OFF.

AND THERE IS A LARGE NUMBER WHO DROP OFF THEIR SCHOOL.

SO I WOULD I WOULD WANT TO PROVE THAT WE COULD NOT HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY HERE.

THERE ARE AT THE BACK OF SO NOT WITHIN A FENCE.

SO THIS IS THE SOCIAL STUDIES WING SO YOU HAVE A DOUBLE DOOR HERE COMING OUT WHERE THE OLD GREENHOUSES WERE THROUGH THE PIECE HERE AND OR IT IS.

IT'D BE GREAT. IF WE WERE RENOVATING NORTH, IT'D BE A CONSIDERATION, BUT IT'S NOT IN THE CARDS AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

AND THEN THERE IS [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT HERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BUILDING.

BUT THAT DOES BECOME THE ISSUE OF TRYING TO NOT TO TURN INTO A BIRD, BUT IT'S A GREAT DROP OFF FOR CAROLINE.

IT WORKS REALLY WELL. WHEN THAT SITE DESIGN WAS REDONE WITH BOTH MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL DOWN THERE, IT ALSO WORKS WELL BECAUSE BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS COMBINED, WE HAVE LESS THAN 1000 KIDS.

WHICH CREATES SOME SAFETY CONCERNS AROUND BACK WHERE YOUR SIGHT LINES FOR ADMIN.

SO YOUR SIGHT LINES ARE ALL THIS WAY. NOTHING THERE JUST CREATES SOME REAL CHALLENGES.

BUT. BUT AGAIN, I APPRECIATE FOLKS SHARING THEIR THOUGHTS AND THEIR CONCERNS AND HIGHLIGHTING THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC ISSUES POTENTIALLY AT NORTH THROUGH A LOCKERMAN BILL SO IT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO OBVIOUSLY BE MINDFUL OF AND WORK THROUGH. WE APPRECIATE THE COMMISSIONER'S SUPPORT IN THAT AS WELL, KNOWING THERE ARE ROAD UPGRADES THAT ARE GOING TO NEED TO HAPPEN AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS OUT OF THIS PROJECT SO I APPRECIATE THAT. AND THANK YOU GUYS FOR INVOLVING THE QUESTION AND KIND OF EXPLAINING IT. SO.

CAN WE GO BACK TO THE OTHER SIDE? THE POINT THAT THAT. AS A AS A PARENT WHO JUST RECENTLY HAD A DAUGHTER GRADUATE FROM HIGH SCHOOL, I WOULD HAVE BEEN REALLY DISAPPOINTED IF HER ONLY OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES REQUIRED HER TO WALK ALL THE WAY ACROSS CAMPUS.

I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA THAT WE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH LIMITING OUR HIGH SCHOOL KIDS TO USING THE STADIUM UNLESS WE WERE, YOU KNOW, MOVING THEM TO. AND I'M NOT I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, BUT LIKE MOVING KIDS FROM THE GYM OUTSIDE, THAT'S LIKE HALF THE COST [LAUGHTER] JUST TO GET THEM CHANGED AND THEN TO GET THEM ALL THE WAY TO THE OTHER END OF CAMPUS, IT WOULD JUST REALLY DIG INTO ANY SORT OF OUTDOOR ATHLETIC OPPORTUNITIES THAT THEY WOULD HAVE.

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YOU KNOW, BASICALLY IT WOULD, IT WOULD MAKE THE KIDS AT NORTH CAROLINE HIGH SCHOOL. I MEAN, SCHOOL BUILDINGS AND NOT GIVE THEM ANY OF THAT SPACE THAT WE REALLY, I REALLY ENJOY.

YOU KNOW, AT NORTH CAROLINE, BEING ABLE TO WALK OUT THE BACK DOOR AND HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE KIDS TO BE THERE.

I KNOW THAT'S A LITTLE THING, BUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF IMPLICATIONS TO HAVING THOSE FIELDS SO FAR DOWN.

FOR ME THAT I WOULDN'T AS A PARENT OR A TEACHER AT THE BUILDING, PROBABLY.

PIECE OF THE SITE. AND I MENTIONED SORT OF YOU'RE REALLY NOT HAVING ANY OPPORTUNITY PUSH IT TOWARDS THE SIDE OF THE SITE. SO I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THIS WOULD BE ABLE TO HANDLE IT.

IT'S ALREADY HANDLING A FULL HIGH SCHOOL CTC.

ALL OF THAT. THAT PARKING NOW GOING TO DOUBLE IN THAT PARKING AND DOUBLE PARKING AND PUTTING THE BUILDING ABOUT HALF THE SIZE OF THAT CURRENT AND ROLLING ALL OF THAT WORK IN THIS AREA. THAT'S A THAT'S JUST A CONCERN FROM AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT THEY CERTAINLY HAVE NOT GOTTEN THE SITE SURVEY, THE UTILITIES, JUST CHATTING WITH THE SITE CIVIL ENGINEERS.

THAT'S JUST A CONCERN OF OVERLOADING THIS SIDE OF THE SITE.

ALL OF THIS SPACE AND THEN JUST KIND OF ENDING ALL OF THIS CAPACITY TO THE OPPOSITE SIDE YOU'RE REALLY NOT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE NATURAL SITE.

AND THEN IN THE NEW PROPOSED DESIGN, THERE WERE FIELDS BEHIND THE SCHOOL BUILDING THAT WE ARE INTENT TO MAINTAIN, TO INCREASE THE BUFFER BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND BUILDING. IT GIVES OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME.

OUR CHARGE IS TO MAKE THOSE AS REGULATIONS POSSIBLE.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE UPON THE CURRENT PLAY FIELDS IN THIS AREA.

SO WE'RE MAINTAINING THE BASEBALL FIELD. WE'RE MAINTAINING THOSE TWO PRACTICE FIELDS.

WE'RE RELOCATING THIS. SO WE'RE TAKING THAT SOFTBALL FIELD THAT'S HERE.

THAT'S GOING TO SORT OF BE OFFSET BY THIS PAST YEAR AND CREATING A LARGER REGULATION SOFTBALL FIELD HERE.

WE'VE GOT SCREWED IN THAT. BUT WE DO HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR A MULTI-PURPOSE USE FIELD UP TOP.

AND THEN THESE OPEN PLAY FIELDS ARE HERE. AS I MENTIONED, SOME OF THIS MAY NEED TO BE SOME STORMWATER THAT FLOWS.

RAIN GARDENS A LITTLE BIT MORE NATURAL SOFT GROUND.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT THIS, YOU KNOW, MANICURED AND DESIGNED FROM THE SITE AND UTILIZING SOME OF THESE SOFTER LANDSCAPE AREAS, NOT ONLY TO HELP ADDRESS THE FRONT OF THIS BUILDING UP, YOU KNOW, CREATING SOME GRASS SPOTS IN THE FRONT.

SO IT'S NOT JUST THE PAVEMENT, BUT ALSO DOUBLE, DOUBLE PURPOSING THOSE STORMWATER OPPORTUNITIES SO WE, WE FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT WE WOULD HAVE AT LEAST A 250 OR 240 FOOT OR WHATEVER THAT IS, BUFFER CERTAINLY ONCE THIS IS ONCE, ONCE WE GET AN ENGINEER DRAWING, WE GET OUR GEOTECHNICAL.

THEY SAY THERE'S A PINNACLE ROCK RIGHT HERE. YOU KNOW, WELL NOW I'VE GOT TO MOVE THE BUILDING DOWN A LITTLE BIT OF STORMWATER THEY'RE GOING TO SAY TO ME, WELL, MAYBE WE NEED TO SLIDE THIS TO THE RIGHT ANOTHER 25, 30FT OR MAYBE THIS COMES DOWN. CERTAINLY AS THESE.

AND THIS WAS THE CHALLENGE THAT WE WERE UP AGAINST THE LAST FEW MEETINGS. YOU KNOW, HOW BIG IS TOO BIG? WE CERTAINLY WANT TO MAKE SURE WE MEET THE ORDINANCE. WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MEETING YOUR NEEDS FOR PARKING AREA.

BUT, YOU KNOW, AS THESE THINGS GROW, THEY'RE EITHER GOING TO GROW TO THE LEFT OR THEY'RE GOING TO GROW UP.

SO WE DO HAVE SOME NICE BUFFER SPACE HERE. SO IF FOR SOME REASON THIS BUS PARKING LOT HAD TO GROW A BIT OR THIS PARENT DROP OFF HAD TO GROW A LITTLE BIT, WE'D PROBABLY SLIDE TO THE RIGHT A LITTLE, NARROW THESE UP A LITTLE BIT.

BUT I, YOU KNOW, OUR GOAL IS TO TRY TO MAINTAIN THIS CURRENTLY AND BETTER IT AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

I'LL DO. I'LL MAKE ONE LAST COMMENT. AND IT RELATES TO THE PARKING THAT'S THERE, THE CURRENT PARKING THAT WILL GRAB A LOT, BUT THAT'S THERE NOW WE HAVE A LOT OF KIDS WHO PARK IN THAT PARKING LOT OVERFLOW FROM NORTH CAROLINE HIGH SCHOOL AND WALK UP TO THE BUILDING EVERY DAY.

IT'S ACTUALLY A PERMITTED LOT, I THINK. SO IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO AT LEAST MAINTAIN OR IF POSSIBLE, EXPAND THE, THE SPOTS. I'LL USE THE TERM LOOSELY BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THERE'S DEFINITELY SPOTS NOW.

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THE OTHER THING TO CONSIDER, AND IT MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE ACCOMPLISHED WITH THOSE STUDENTS GOING IN THE BACK, THEY CURRENTLY CANNOT AND THEY HAVE TO WALK. THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM ARE WALKING ON THE ROAD.

NOT ADVISED, BUT THEY MADE THEIR OWN DECISION SOME DAYS AND WALKING UP UP CENTRAL TO GET TO THE HIGH SCHOOL, WE WOULD NEED TO ELIMINATE THAT COMPLETELY. SO IF, IF THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO ACCESS THE BACK OF THE BUILDING, THEN WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF YEAH, A PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY OR SOMETHING THAT COMES FROM THAT PARKING LOT IN THE MIDDLE UP TO THE HIGH SCHOOL, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE KIDS ARE DO WE CONNECT AND WHETHER THAT'S THOSE PARKING LOTS, WHETHER THAT'S THOSE STUDENTS COMING ACROSS, WHETHER THIS IS FOR AFTER HOURS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS.

THEY'RE NOT JUST KIND OF GO PASSING ACROSS THE FIELDS.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT NATURE. WOULD THERE BE A TWO-STORY BUILDING WE NEED TO HAVE ACCESS TO HAVE A TOWER PUT IN THE BACK OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.

SO THAT I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE THOUGHT ABOUT IN THE FUTURE, NOT JUST HAULING LADDERS TO THE BACK, BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S. YEAH, YEAH, WE'LL CERTAINLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S THE CIVIL WILL CHECK THAT.

AND WHETHER THAT IS, YOU KNOW, WE COULD ALWAYS USE THOSE, YOU KNOW, PERVIOUS PAVE, YOU KNOW, THE SUPPORTIVE FIRE TRUCK APPARATUS TO COME TO THE BACK.

YOU KNOW, JUST FROM A VERY HIGH LEVEL, TYPICALLY WE DESIGN THESE BUILDINGS AND I CAN'T IMAGINE THIS WON'T BE, BUT WE'RE IN TYPE 2B CONSTRUCTION FULLY SPRING.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT SAFETY AND SECURITY, LIFE SAFETY IS CERTAINLY A PARAMOUNT, BUT I AGREE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT WE'VE GOT FRONTAGE AND ACCESSIBILITY FOR, FOR THOSE.

AND AS I MENTIONED, AS IT'S ENGINEERED, WE'LL LOCATE HYDRANTS AND PERIMETER ACCESS.

TYPICALLY, WE HAVE A MEETING DURING DESIGN DEVELOPMENT WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL AND EMERGENCY RESPONDERS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MEETING SITE AS WELL AS BUILDING REQUIREMENTS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S DESIGNED IN FROM THE GET GO THERE WAS SOME AND AGAIN, JUST MAKING SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS TODAY TO MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS FEEL LIKE WE'RE HEARING THEM.

THERE WERE SOME, APPARENTLY SOME, SOME INFORMATION WAS SHARED AT THE RECENT FAIR THAT WE HAD THAT WE WERE INTENT TO MOVE THE PASTURE BARN OFF PROPERTY.

NO. SO IT, IT REMAINS ON THE PLAN. YES. AND WE'RE TRYING REALLY HARD TO KEEP IT CLOSE TO THE CCTC BUT JUST FOR THE BOARD'S AWARENESS THERE, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS SOME MISINFORMATION OUT THERE THAT JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE.

COMPANY BUILDING. YEAH. CTTC NOT AT ALL. YEAH. CHESAPEAKE COLLEGE IS BUILDING A NEW TECH BUILDING.

CHESAPEAKE COLLEGE HAS TALKED TO THE LOCAL SCHOOL SYSTEMS ABOUT USING THEIR BUILDING DURING THE DAY BECAUSE IT WILL PRIMARILY BE USED AT NIGHTS AND WEEKENDS.

AND AS WE TOLD THEM, THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO USE SPACE TO EXPAND PROGRAMING.

OF COURSE, WE WOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT. BUT THERE IS NO PLAN TO SEND TO GET RID OF CTTC IN THE PROGRAMS THERE.

WE ARE ADJUSTING PROGRAMS, AS THE BOARD KNOWS, BECAUSE THE STATE CHANGED THEIR CTE PATHWAYS.

SO WE'RE GOING THROUGH THOSE PROGRAMMATIC CHANGES. BUT WE ARE NOT PROPOSING GETTING RID OF TECHNICAL EDUCATION IN THAT BUILDING.

THANK YOU.

QUESTIONS. SO WE'RE READY TO YOU COULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON WHICH LOCATION.

BOARD MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS STILL? COMMENTS. CAN WE CHECK ON MARK? ANY QUESTIONS MARK? I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I WAS. MY QUESTION WAS ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT CHRISSY HAD ASKED ABOUT NOT LIKE ACTUALLY HAVING THE SAME LIKE A DROP OFF POINT BECAUSE WE REALIZE THAT THAT'S NOT, NOT POSSIBLE HERE, BUT JUST A WAY TO LINK THE TWO PARKING AREAS WITH LIKE A THAT WAS, WAS WHERE MY QUESTION WAS, BUT IT'S KIND OF BASICALLY WHAT CHRISSY HAD ASKED ABOUT A FEW MINUTES AGO.

OKAY. THANK YOU MARK. ALL RIGHT. SO AT THIS TIME, THE BOARD NEEDS TO MAKE A VOTE ON THE DECISION OF OUR OPTIONS ARE YOU HAVE THE OPTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU TODAY?

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RIGHT. OR IF THE BOARD WISHES A DIFFERENT, A DIFFERENT OPTION.

SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE OPTION B THAT WAS PRESENTED TODAY WITH THE PLACEMENT OF LOCKERMAN OR SITE OPTION 2B SITE ORGANIZATION. I DON'T KNOW AM I SAYING IT CORRECTLY? [LAUGHTER]. YEAH. THAT IS SITE 2B IF THAT'S THE ONE YOU'RE PROPOSING.

WE HAVE A. BEEN PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED THAT THE SELECTION WILL BE OPTION 2B WITH THE SITE ORGANIZATION OF THE NEW MIDDLE SCHOOL. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MARK.

MARK, DO YOU HAVE A VOTE? YEAH. MY VOTE'S IN FAVOR.

OKAY. THANK YOU. SO, ALL IN FAVOR. ANY OPPOSED? SO CARRIED. THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBERS FOR THE TIME PUT IN AND THE PRESENTERS FOR THE TIME PUT IN FOR THE DECISION.

OUR UPCOMING MEETINGS WILL BE. WE DO NOT HAVE A.

[3.01 Upcoming Meetings and Events Next Board Meeting: September 1, 2026]

WE DO NOT HAVE ANOTHER AUGUST MEETING. YEAH. NO MORE AUGUST MEETINGS.

YEAH, WE'LL BE BACK IN SCHOOL. WE WELCOME ALL TEACHERS BACK ON THE 19TH.

AND THE BOARD IS INVITED TO OUR WELCOME BACK.

WHICH IS ON WEDNESDAY. WEDNESDAY THE 19TH. YEP.

AT COLONEL WE APPRECIATE YOU.

DO YOU LIKE IT? YES YES. AND WE NEED A MOTION FOR THE MEETING TO BE ADJOURNED.

MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND. IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. SAFE TRAVELS MARK.

SO CARRIED. THANK YOU. WE'LL SEE YOU, MARK. BE CAREFUL.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.