[1. Opening Items] [00:00:07] BOARD OF EDUCATION MEETING AT 6 P.M. ON TUESDAY, JULY 1ST. WE'RE GLAD TO SEE YOU HERE. AND WE WILL BEGIN BY HAVING OUR MEETING CALLED TO ORDER, PLEASE. I MAKE A MOTION. WE CALL THE JULY 1ST BOARD MEETING TO ORDER. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. THANK YOU. AND WE'LL BEGIN WITH OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. PLEASE STAND. ALLEGIANCE] THANK YOU. AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY CHILDREN WITH US THIS TIME. NO. SO WE HAD TO DO IT ALL OURSELVES. I'LL BEGIN WITH OUR MISSION STATEMENT. WHICH IS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH FAMILIES AND COMMUNITY. WE PREPARE ALL STUDENTS TO ACHIEVE COLLEGE, CAREER, AND LIFE READINESS THROUGH A CHALLENGING AND PROGRESSIVE EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE. OUR VISION, WHAT WE WANT IS FOR EVERY STUDENT TO BE PREPARED, EMPOWERED, AND INSPIRED TO THRIVE IN AN EVER CHANGING AND DIVERSE WORLD. AND CAN WE PLEASE HAVE APPROVAL OF OUR AGENDA FOR TONIGHT? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE OUR AGENDA WITH JUST ONE OF THEM, AND THAT WOULD JUST BE TO FORGIVE OUR BOARD MEETING WITH OUR BOARD MEMBER REPORTS. IF YOU GUYS ARE OKAY WITH THAT, WITH THE STUFF WE'VE GOT GOING ON TONIGHT. YES, ABSOLUTELY. AND YES, WE NEED TO ADD A CLOSED SESSION AFTERWARDS. GREAT. CAN I GET A SECOND? FOR THE PURPOSE OF PERSONNEL? YEAH. SECOND. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA WITH TWO ADDITIONS. ONE FOR A CLOSED SESSION AT THE END OF OUR MEETING TONIGHT. AND THE SECOND WAS FOR. MOVING BOARD MEMBER REPORTS. YES. BOARD MEMBER REPORTS IN LIEU OF TIME. AND CAN I GET A SECOND? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED. AND REOPEN OUR MEETING TONIGHT WITH ONE MEMBER WHO WILL BE HERE. COULD NOT BE HERE AT SIX, BUT HE IS PLANNING TO ATTEND. [3. Consent Agenda] WE DO NOT HAVE ANY RECOGNITIONS THIS EVENING. SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA. MR. WILLOUGHBY. DR. WILLOUGHBY. GOOD EVENING. TWO APPOINTMENTS TO PROVISIONAL CONTRACT, ONE ADMINISTRATIVE TITLE CHANGE. AND THEN THERE IS AN ADDENDUM, THAT IS, AN ADDITIONAL SEVEN APPOINTMENTS TO A REGULAR CONTRACT AND ONE APPOINTMENT TO A PROVISIONAL CONTRACT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE APPROVAL OF OUR MINUTES FROM THE JUNE 3RD BOARD MEETING AND JUNE 27TH WORK SESSION. I CAN MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA IN ITS ENTIRETY. I'LL SECOND. ANY OPPOSED? SO, CARRIED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MISS BARRY, DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS? WE DO NOT. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. MOVING RIGHT ALONG. WE DO HAVE QUITE A LIST FOR INDIVIDUAL ACTION ITEMS, [5. Individual Action Items] AND WE WILL BEGIN THAT LIST WITH AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPOINTMENT. THANK YOU, MISS WAYMAN. I HAVE THIS ITEM FOR THIS EVENING. TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD THIS TONIGHT FOR THEIR APPROVAL. FEDERALSBURG ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS ASSISTANT PRINCIPALSHIP HAD RECENTLY BECOME OPEN. WITH THE MOVE OF MISS HOWIE INTO OUR COORDINATOR. A TEACHER AND TEACHING AND LEARNING POSITION. MRS. BROWN AND A TEAM INTERVIEWED CANDIDATES THIS WEEK, ACTUALLY FOR THE POSITION, WE HAD FIVE APPLICANTS INTERVIEWED. AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEIR TOP CHOICE, YOUR UNANIMOUS CHOICE TO BE THE NEXT ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL AT FEDERALSBURG ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WAS DR. REBECCA WIVELL. DR. WIVELL CURRENTLY WORKS FOR CCPS. [00:05:02] DR. WIVELL HAS BEEN WITH US SINCE 2012. SHE SERVED IN THE CAPACITY OF A SPECIAL EDUCATION TEACHER, A LEAD TEACHER, A MENTOR, TEACHER, READING INTERVENTIONIST, AND LITERACY SPECIALIST, BOTH AT COLONEL MIDDLE AND COLONEL HIGH. AND RECENTLY FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS, SHE SERVED AS DEAN OF STUDENTS AT CCTC. DR. WIVELL DID COMPLETE HER DOCTORATE IN 23, FROM SALISBURY UNIVERSITY AND CONTEMPORARY CURRICULUM THEORY AND INSTRUCTION, WITH AN EMPHASIS ON LITERACY AND WRITING. SHE WILL BE A WONDERFUL ADDITION TO FEDERALSBURG ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. SHE WILL BE A GREAT PARTNER FOR MRS. BROHAWN. AND I'M EXCITED TO BRING HER TONIGHT TO YOU ALL FOR HER APPOINTMENT. AND IF YOU SO APPROVE, SHE'LL BE THERE TOMORROW. WIVELL WILL BE A WONDERFUL ADDITION TO FEDERALSBURG. GREAT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, BOARD MEMBERS, ABOUT THE APPOINTMENT OF DR. WIVELL? MAY WE HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE, TO ACCEPT THE SUPERINTENDENT'S APPOINTMENT? DR. WIVELL TO ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL AT FEDERALSBURG ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. I MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE SUPERINTENDENT'S APPROVAL OF. DR. WIVELL OF DR. WIVELL FOR ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL AT FEDERALSBURG ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. SO YOU'RE SECOND. I'LL SECOND. ANY QUESTIONS? MOTION CARRIED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE'LL GET A PICTURE WITH DR. WIVELL SOON. SINCE YOU COULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT. YEP. OKAY, GOOD. VERY GOOD. WE CERTAINLY WISH HER BEST ON THIS NEW ENDEAVOR. OKAY. AND WE'LL GO TO OUR BOARD POLICIES ON INSTRUCTIONAL DECISION MAKING. HEALTH BENEFITS FOR RETIREES AND SCHOOL CLIMATE. DR. WILLOUGHBY'S GOT QUITE A FEW TONIGHT FOR US. [LAUGHTER] YEP, BUT THEY GET ALL BUNCHED TOGETHER, SO THAT'S FANTASTIC. IT'S NICE WHEN THEY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO LISTEN TO ME FOR LONG. BUT MISS WAYMAN, DR. SIMMONS, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. TONIGHT I BRING TO YOU THREE POLICIES RECOMMENDED FOR RETIREMENT. SCHOOL BASED INSTRUCTIONAL DECISION MAKING, HEALTH BENEFITS FOR RETIREES, AND SCHOOL CLIMATE. I'LL START JUST BY OFFERING A COMPARISON. YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES BEING A SOCIAL STUDIES TEACHER, FORMER SOCIAL STUDIES TEACHER, YOU GET THINGS THAT GO THROUGH CONGRESS, LIKE THE CLEAN WATER ACT, RIGHT? AND YOU GET PEOPLE THAT VOTE AGAINST THE CLEAN WATER ACT. AND YOU GO, WELL, ARE YOU AGAINST CLEAN WATER? WELL, NO, THERE'S PROBABLY STUFF IN THERE THAT DOESN'T MATCH. RIGHT. YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? SO WE'RE NOT RETIRING THESE POLICIES BECAUSE WE NO LONGER BELIEVE IN SCHOOL BASED INSTRUCTIONAL DECISION MAKING POSITIVE SCHOOL CLIMATE OR OFFERING HEALTH INSURANCE OR BENEFITS TO OUR RETIREES. I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR. TO TAKE THE HEALTH BENEFITS FOR RETIREES FIRST. AND WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS PREVIOUSLY. WE HAVE NOW SUCCESSFULLY NEGOTIATED INTO ALL THREE EMPLOYEE AGREEMENTS. THE CONTENTS OF THIS POLICY, BECAUSE IT IS A BENEFIT AND THAT'S WHERE IT BELONGS. AND SO NOW THAT IT IS ENSHRINED IN THOSE NEGOTIATED AGREEMENTS, WE WANT TO RETIRE THE POLICY OUT OF THE POLICY BOOK BECAUSE IT'S MORE APPROPRIATELY PLACED WITHIN THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING REALM. SO THAT ONE IS UP FRONT. SCHOOL BASED INSTRUCTIONAL DECISION MAKING IS A POLICY THAT IS IN YOUR POLICY MANUAL AND I BELIEVE IS FROM 1992, HASN'T BEEN TOUCHED SINCE 1992. THIS IS ONE THAT YOU MAY WISH AS A BOARD, ESPECIALLY AS YOU GATHER FOR YOUR RETREAT IN AUGUST AND YOU START TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT TOPICS AND THINGS LIKE THIS. THIS LARGELY TALKS ABOUT THE SCHOOL IMPROVEMENT PROCESS, AND THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES TO THE WAY WE DO THE SCHOOL IMPROVEMENT PROCESS SINCE 1992. AND JUST TO HIGHLIGHT SOME THINGS IN HERE, IT TALKS ABOUT HOW HIRING, LIKE SCHOOL BASED HIRING, AND THAT THE SCHOOL WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SOME HIRING KIND OF OUTSIDE OF THE BOARD OF ED. WELL, WE KNOW THAT DOESN'T THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN. YOU KNOW, WE CENTRALLY HIRE OUR TEACHERS BECAUSE THEY MAY BE ASSIGNED TO A SCHOOL, BUT THEY ARE EMPLOYEES OF CAROLINE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS. THAT SCHOOLS MAY HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADOPT THEIR OWN CURRICULUM. AND WE KNOW THAT'S NOT THE WORLD IN WHICH WE LIVE. EVEN IN THIS PAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THAT IS VERY MUCH NO LONGER THE WORLD IN WHICH WE LIVE. AND SO TO LOOK AT REVISING THIS POLICY REALLY WOULD HAVE MEANT SCRAPPING THE WHOLE THING AND STARTING OVER. AND IF WE'RE GOING TO SCRAP THE WHOLE THING AND START OVER, WHY NOT START WITH A DISCUSSION, PERHAPS AT A WORK SESSION LATER ON THIS YEAR? I HAVE TALKED TO DR. DOWNES ABOUT THAT, ABOUT WHAT SCHOOL IMPROVEMENT PLANNING LOOKS LIKE TODAY. AND THEN IF THE BOARD SO WISHES TO ENSHRINE ANY OF THAT IN POLICY, THEN WE CAN GO FROM THERE. [00:10:04] BUT SOMETIMES SOME THINGS ARE SO FAR ASKEW YOU CAN'T REALLY FIX IT, YOU JUST HAVE TO START OVER. AND THAT REALLY IS THE CASE WITH THIS AND SCHOOL CLIMATE. AND SO THAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION THERE. SCHOOL CLIMATE IS, THIS ONE SCHOOL CLIMATE WAS FROM 1991, AND IT REALLY INCLUDES THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE WELLNESS PROGRAM, OUR NONDISCRIMINATION POLICY. IT TALKS ABOUT TREATING FOLKS WITH RESPECT. A COUPLE TIMES IN THIS POLICY IT TALKS ABOUT GIVING STUDENTS THE NURTURING THAT THEY NEED TO BE. IF IT'S GOING TO BE IN POLICY, WE OUGHT TO SAY WHAT THAT IS, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT'S VERY BROAD. AND SO AGAIN, THE SPIRIT OF THIS IS IN OTHER POLICIES THAT WE HAVE. AND IF WE WANT A SCHOOL CLIMATE POLICY, THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE, THAT'S IN THE BOARD'S PURVIEW. BUT MAYBE WE NEED TO START WITH A CONVERSATION OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN 2025. AND SO THAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION FOR WHY. AND AGAIN, I JUST MADE THAT CLEAN WATER COMPARISON. WE'RE NOT AGAINST ANY OF THESE THINGS. BUT SOMETIMES THEY'RE YOU KNOW, THESE THINGS HAVE BEEN UNTOUCHED SINCE THE EARLY 90S. AND SO LIKE I SAID, IN YOUR AUGUST RETREAT, WE CAN CERTAINLY MAKE THIS A WORK SESSION TOPIC AND TALK ABOUT WHAT REALLY GOES ON NOW AND HOW THAT PROCESS WORKS, AND THEN KIND OF GO FROM THERE AS A SPRINGBOARD IF YOU WOULD LIKE SOMETHING TO REPLACE THESE WITH. BOARD MEMBERS IF ANY OF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT DR. WILLOUGHBY'S RECOMMENDATION, IT'S A GREAT IDEA. I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA AS WELL. AS YOU SAID, THEY'RE PRETTY DATED. YES. AND THANK YOU FOR THE TIME THAT YOU PUT IN READING THROUGH THEM, EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE DATED AND THEN FORWARDING THEM TO US SO WE WOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO READ THEM PRIOR TO TONIGHT'S MEETING. CAN I GET A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT DR. WILLOUGHBY'S RECOMMENDATION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION TO RETIRE THESE THREE POLICIES. AND START OVER. THANK YOU. OKAY. IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE ACCEPT DR. WILLOUGHBY'S RECOMMENDATION TO RETIRE THESE POLICIES AND START OVER WHERE WE NEED TO. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SO CARRIED. THANK YOU, DR. WILLOUGHBY. YEAH. AND YOU CAN GO RIGHT ON AND CONTINUE. SO THEN TWO POLICIES THAT I BRING TO YOU TONIGHT WITH REVISION THAT BOTH UNDER YOUR POLICY AND POLICY DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR ADOPTION WITH A SINGLE READ TONIGHT. SO THE FIRST IS TOBACCO FREE SCHOOLS. IT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE IT IS, WHICH IS ALWAYS NICE WHEN THE TITLE MATCHES THE CONTENT. LAST ADOPTED IN 1993. SO THIS IS BRINGING IT UP TO SPEED WITH A COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS. NUMBER ONE OUR CURRENT POLICY TALKS ABOUT HOW WE ARE TOBACCO FREE SCHOOLS, BUT IT DOES CARVE OUT FOR STAFF THAT ARE GOING THROUGH NICOTINE REPLACEMENT THERAPY. SO THIS MIGHT BE PATCHES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WE NOW HAVE A DEFINITION OF WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE FOR NICOTINE REPLACEMENT THERAPY BECAUSE THAT CAN HAPPEN IN A VARIETY OF WAYS. SOME ARE JUST A PATCH THAT GO ON THE BODY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SOME, THOUGH, ARE ACTUALLY LIKE ALMOST LIKE AN E-CIGARETTE, AND WE DON'T WANT THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO WE WANT TO WE WANT TO PUT THOSE PARAMETERS OUT THERE SO THAT IT'S MORE APPROPRIATE. THE SECOND IS IN OUR CURRENT POLICY, IT TALKS ABOUT TOBACCO. WE ALSO EXPAND NOW THE DEFINITION OF TOBACCO TO INCLUDE E-CIGARETTES AND VAPES. AGAIN, JUST BRINGING IT UP TO 21ST CENTURY LANGUAGE. AND THEN IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT YOU CAN'T HAVE TOBACCO IN OUR SCHOOLS AND IN OUR BUILDINGS AND ON OUR PROPERTY, BUT IT CARVES OUT DURING THE OFFICIAL SCHOOL DAY. YEAH. AND THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE BROADENED TO SAY EVER YOU KNOW, THAT A FOOTBALL GAME, FOR EXAMPLE, IS AFTER THE OFFICIAL SCHOOL DAY AND WE DON'T WANT IT THERE EITHER. SO WE DO BROADEN THAT. THIS WAS VERY MUCH A POLICY, IF YOU READ THROUGH IT AND LOOK AT THE REDLINE VERSION, THIS IS VERY MUCH A POLICY THAT WAS WRITTEN IN RESPONSE TO STATE LAW CHANGE IN 1993. SO IT TALKS ABOUT EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER 1ST, 1993, THIS WILL HAPPEN. WE JUST KIND OF UPDATE SOME OF THAT BECAUSE IT IS OUR CURRENT PRACTICE. IT HAD SOMETHING ABOUT US PROVIDING SMOKING CESSATION. OUR INSURANCE COMPANY PROVIDES THAT, OUR PARTNERS, OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS, PROVIDE THAT THE BOARD DOES NOT NEED TO PROVIDE THAT, ITSELF. AGAIN, THIS WAS A NEW POLICY, THIS WAS A NEW THING IN 1993. SO TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT EMPLOYEES COULD AND WERE ABLE TO ABIDE BY IT WAS WAS IMPORTANT AT THE TIME. BUT IT'S BEEN PRETTY ACCEPTED PRACTICE FOR 32 YEARS NOW. SO, WE CAN TAKE THAT PART OUT. SO THAT'S THE REVISIONS TO TOBACCO FREE SCHOOLS. [00:15:05] AND DID YOU WANT TO GO ON WITH. I CAN GO AHEAD WITH TELEHEALTH AS WELL. KIND OF PINCH HITTING A LITTLE BIT FOR MR. HOWIE, WHO IS. I CAN HELP OUT IF YOU NEED. AND DR. SIMMONS CAN HELP OUT TOO, A LITTLE BIT. BUT IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY SESSION THERE WERE AMENDMENTS MADE TO MARYLAND EDUCATION CODE 4143 REQUIRING ALL SCHOOL SYSTEMS TO HAVE A POLICY DEALING WITH TELEHEALTH APPOINTMENTS FOR STUDENTS DURING THE SCHOOL DAY. MSBE PUT FORTH A MODEL POLICY. WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE BY, I BELIEVE IT'S SEPTEMBER 1ST OF 2025. SO MR. HOWIE AND HIS TEAM DID WORK ON THE POLICY AND THE REGULATION. THE POLICY, THOUGH, THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS THE MODEL POLICY THAT WAS PROVIDED BY MSDE. DR. SIMMONS HAS THAT MODEL POLICY GUIDELINE AND CRITERIA. YEAH, I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF SERVING ON THE TELEHEALTH WORKGROUP FOR THE STATE TO HELP DEVELOP THE GUIDELINES BY WHICH SCHOOL SYSTEMS COULD OPERATE UNDER THE LEGISLATIVE INTENT. WHAT THEY WERE HOPING AND WE DID CROSSWALK IT. AND OUR POLICY DOES HIT THOSE COMPONENTS AS WELL AS WITH THE ACCOMPANYING REGULATION DOES HIT THOSE REQUIREMENTS. SO WHAT THE POLICY IS LOOKING FOR THAT SCHOOL SYSTEMS HAVE TO HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY AS IT RELATES TO TELEHEALTH PRESENTLY BEFORE THE POLICY WAS WRITTEN. CAROLINE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS DOES HAVE PARTNERS THAT ENGAGE IN TELEHEALTH. CHOPTANK COMMUNITY HEALTH USES TELEHEALTH WITHIN ITS WELLNESS CENTERS ON A REGULAR BASIS FOR PROVIDING SERVICES FOR OUR KIDS. SO IN SOMATIC HEALTH, WE WERE ALREADY PROVIDING IT. AND WE HAVE VETTED PARTNERS FOR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH. THEY WERE USING TELE IN SOME REGARDS TO HELP STUDENTS. AND WE ALSO HAVE A SUBSTANCE ABUSE, SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER MOBILE TREATMENT UNIT THAT COMES TO SOME OF OUR SCHOOLS, AND THEY USE TELEHEALTH ON THERE AS WELL. SO WE WERE ALREADY USING IT. THE INTENT BEHIND IT WHEN THE LEGISLATION WAS PASSED WAS TO GET SCHOOL SYSTEMS TO THINK ABOUT USING TELE. WE ALREADY WORKED. SO WE WANTED TO DO WAS MAKE SURE THAT OUR POLICY AND REGULATION DIDN'T INHIBIT THE WAY WE WERE ALREADY PROVIDING TELEHEALTH, TO MAKE SURE WE WERE WITHIN THE GUIDELINES THAT WERE ESTABLISHED, AND WE ARE. AND THEN WE ALSO PROVIDED SOME POTENTIAL FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE THE GUIDELINES TALK ABOUT PARENT INITIATED TELEHEALTH. SO WE HAD TO CREATE SORT OF A PROCESS THAT IF A PARENT WANTED TO TRY TO SCHEDULE A TELEHEALTH APPOINTMENT FOR THEIR KID, WHAT WOULD BE THE SCHOOL SYSTEM RESPONSIBILITIES? WHAT WOULDN'T BE THE SCHOOL SYSTEM RESPONSIBILITIES? SO THE REGULATION SPELLS THAT OUT. IN SHORT, IT'S MUCH EASIER FOR THE SCHOOL SYSTEM TO PROVIDE, TO SUPPORT TELEHEALTH BEING PROVIDED BY A VETTED PARTNER THAN IT IS TO A PARENT. WE CAN'T GUARANTEE NETWORK ACCESS. WE CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT DEVICES WORK ON THE NETWORK FOR STUDENTS WHO ARE TRYING TO ACCESS TELEHEALTH, THERE'S NETWORK SECURITY THINGS WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT, AND WE TRY TO INCLUDE SOME OF THAT IN THE REGULATION, BUT ALSO A PROCESS BY WHICH IF A PARENT WANTS TO SEEK POSSIBILITY OF USING TELE THERE'S A PROCESS THAT THEY WOULD GO THROUGH WITH THE SCHOOL PRINCIPAL TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT IF THE SCHOOL CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT WITHIN SPACE AND TIME. AND WHAT HAPPENS IF AN APPOINTMENT FOR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH DOESN'T GO WELL FOR THE STUDENT WHO HAS A TELE APPOINTMENT? IT'S DIFFERENT IF IT'S WITH A VETTED PROVIDER, BECAUSE THE VETTED PROVIDER IS FULLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT STUDENT AT THE TIME. BUT IF IT IS NOT SOMEBODY WITH A VETTED PROVIDER. WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE STUDENT IF THE TELEHEALTH APPOINTMENT DOESN'T GO WELL? WE'VE ENSHRINED IN THE REGULATION ABOUT THE PARENT NEEDING TO BE ON SITE TO BE ABLE TO HELP SUPPORT THE STUDENT, THAT IF THEY ARE STILL IN MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS AFTER AN APPOINTMENT. WE'VE TRIED TO PUT SOME PARAMETERS AROUND THAT AS WELL IN THE REGULATION TO SUPPORT FOLKS WHO WERE LOOKING FOR THAT AVENUE. BUT WE'VE WORKED THROUGH IT AGAIN. WE 'VE HIT ALL THE REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THE POLICY, BUT WE ALSO WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE SUPPORTING OUR CURRENT PARTNERS AND CURRENT WORK, BECAUSE TELEHEALTH HAS BEEN WONDERFUL FOR OUR STUDENTS GETTING ACCESS TO THE SERVICES THEY NEED. IT JUST WORKS BEST FOR US, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH A VETTED PARTNER. THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES, THEY HAVE THE NETWORK EQUIPMENT, THEY HAVE THE PROVIDERS WHO ARE TRAINED IN AND CAN SUPPORT BEFORE, DURING AND AFTER. THAT IT WORKS IN THAT REGARD. AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO PROP UP OUR PARTNERS THROUGH THE WORK. OUR PARTNERS HAVE BEEN ENGAGED IN THE POLICY WORK AND THE REGULATION WORK, PROVIDING FEEDBACK TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HIT THE MARKS WITH THEM AS WELL. SO WE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THEIR WORK, AND WE DO FEEL LIKE WE HAVE THAT TAKEN CARE OF AT THIS POINT. AND WE SEEK YOUR APPROVAL ON THE TELEHEALTH POLICY AS WELL. SO BOTH OF THESE POLICIES TOBACCO FREE SCHOOLS DOES NOT CHANGE THE INTENT OF THE POLICY. IT SIMPLY BRINGS THE WORDING UP TO DATE WHICH IS WITHIN YOUR POLICY ON POLICY DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW FOR A SINGLE READ APPROVAL. TELEHEALTH IS IN RESPONSE TO A STATE MANDATE AND BASED UPON A STATE MODEL POLICY, WHICH AGAIN MEANS THAT IT CAN BE ALSO A SINGLE READ APPROVAL AS WELL. [00:20:02] BOARD MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE POLICIES THAT EXTEND BEYOND THE SINGLE READ? OKAY, SO WE CAN ACCEPT A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE TOBACCO FREE SCHOOL POLICY AND THE TELEHEALTH POLICY. I'M GLAD TO DO THIS TOGETHER. YEAH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE BOTH THE TOBACCO FREE SCHOOL AND TELEHEALTH POLICY. I THINK IT SHOULD BE MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE ACCEPT THE TOBACCO FREE SCHOOL POLICY AND THE TELEHEALTH POLICY, IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OPPOSE? SO CARRIED. THANK YOU, DR. WILLOUGHBY. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, MR. HOWIE, AS WELL, FOR HIS WORK ON. YES. THE HEALTH POLICY THERE. OKAY. AND WE HAVE MISS CIGNA WHO IS GOING TO BE SHARING INFORMATION ON OUR OPERATING BUDGET. YES. GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT WAYMAN. DR. SIMMONS, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. TONIGHT I'M BRINGING TO YOU FOR APPROVAL A REVISION TO THE FY 26 OPERATING BUDGET, WHICH WAS APPROVED LAST WEEK. FRIDAY TO BE EXACT. [LAUGHTER] SHORTLY AFTER OUR MEETING ON FRIDAY, WE RECEIVED THE FINAL NUMBERS FROM THE STATE. GOOD, GOOD. SO WE CAN UPDATE OUR OPERATING BUDGET TO REFLECT THOSE FIGURES. THE CHANGES I'VE HIGHLIGHTED ON THE BUDGET SUMMARY. OVERALL, THERE WAS A NET REDUCTION OF $69,197 TO THE LOCAL REVENUE FIGURE. THIS IS FROM, SO WHEN WE GOT THESE NUMBERS BACK IN DECEMBER OR JANUARY, THERE'S THE AMOUNT ALLOTTED TO PRE-K, THAT AMOUNT INCLUDED PRIVATE PRE-K, WHICH I SPOKE ABOUT AT THE MAY MEETING. I BELIEVE THAT WE HAD WE WERE INVOICED BY THE STATE FOR THE LOCAL SHERIFF, PRIVATE PRE-K. THEY'RE CHANGING THE WAY THAT THEY'RE DOING IT NEXT, WELL, THIS FISCAL YEAR, NOW THAT IT'S JULY 1ST, SO THE STATE WILL BE INVOICING THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT DIRECTLY FOR PRIVATE PRE-K. THE PUBLIC SHARE OF PRIVATE PRE-K. SO THAT MONEY IS NO LONGER GOING TO BE INCLUDED IN OUR REVENUE, IT WILL STAY WITH THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT. SO WE HAD TO REDUCE OUR LOCAL REVENUE BY THAT AMOUNT. BUT THERE WAS ALSO AN INCREASE IN OUR LOCAL REVENUE RELATED TO THE MONEY ALLOTTED TO OUR BLUEPRINT COORDINATOR. PREVIOUSLY, THERE WAS ONLY A STATE SHARE FOR THE BLUEPRINT COORDINATORS, AND NOW THERE IS A LOCAL SHARE AS WELL TO BRING THE TOTAL ALLOTMENT UP TO $150,000 ACROSS THE STATE FOR EACH DISTRICT. SO WITH THE PRIVATE PRE-K REDUCTION OF $110,857, AND THE INCREASE OF $41,661 THAT BRINGS THE NET REDUCTION TO $69,197. SINCE BOTH OF THESE AMOUNTS WERE ALLOCATED TO SALARIES, THAT IS WHY IT'S REFLECTED IN SALARY LAPS ON THE BUDGET SUMMARY AND OVERALL, THIS CHANGE WILL BRING OUR UNRESTRICTED OPERATING BUDGET TO $100,373,109. SO, WE WILL JUST NEED APPROVAL ON MAKING THOSE CHANGES, AND THEN WE CAN GET THE FINAL BUDGET DOCUMENT OUT. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. A LOT OF WORK BETWEEN FRIDAY AND TUESDAY. YEAH. OKAY. APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE DONE TO AMEND THE BUDGET FROM THEN TILL NOW. CAN WE GET A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AMENDED OPERATING BUDGET. I'LL SECOND IT. IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE ACCEPT THE AMENDED OPERATING BUDGET FOR THE INCOMING SCHOOL YEAR. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SO CARRIED. THANK YOU MISS CIGNA. THANK YOU. AND AGAIN AS MISS CIGNA IT'S GOING BACK TO HER SIT. I JUST WANT TO THANK JILL FOR THE EFFORT THAT CAME IN BECAUSE LITERALLY IT WAS ALMOST AT THE END OF THE DAY FRIDAY WHEN WE RECEIVED THE DOCUMENT. AND THEN IT WAS ALSO TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHERE SOME OF THE CHANGES WERE COMING FROM, BECAUSE SOME, SOME WERE NEW TO DIGEST AND PROCESS IT WITH THE COUNTY AS WELL. [00:25:03] BECAUSE THERE'S IMPACTS TO THE COUNTY, THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, NOT HUGE, BUT THERE'S STILL AN IMPACT. AND THEY HAD ALREADY APPROVED THEIR BUDGET. SO WE'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THEM. BUT I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT MISS CIGNA PUT INTO THAT, SO . THANK YOU. AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR 2025 THROUGH 2031 . IT WILL BE 2026 THROUGH 2030, CORRECT? THANK YOU. 25 TO 2030. OKAY. WE LITERALLY HAD THIS BACK AND FORTH EARLIER. LIKE WHERE DOES THE FIVE YEAR. BECAUSE THE ONE WE'RE IN AND IT ENDS IN 25. SO THE YEAR THEORETICALLY SCHOOL YEAR ENDED. RIGHT. YEAH, WE HAD A LONG CONVERSATION. WE'RE OKAY. DON'T WORRY. [LAUGHTER] SO AS WE DISCUSSED ACTUALLY AS THE BOARD DISCUSSED, EVEN STARTING AT OUR RETREAT LAST YEAR, WE TALKED ABOUT THE STRATEGIC PLAN, WHICH THE BOARD LASTED IN 2020. PRE-COVID, IT STARTED AT 2019 INTO THE 2020 SCHOOL YEAR. AND THE FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN HAD KIND OF COME TO AN END. THE TIME WAS UP AND IT WAS TIME TO KIND OF REVISIT AND AS A BOARD. THE DISCUSSION WAS HELD UP. DO THE GOALS STILL MATCH? DO THE CORE VALUE STILL MATCH? DOES THE MISSION AND VISION STILL FIT WHERE THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IS LOOKING TO GO? HAVE WE ACHIEVED THOSE THINGS OR ARE THEY STILL WHERE WE'RE HEADING? AND THE BOARD AT THE TIME CONFIRMED OR AFFIRMED THAT THOSE WERE STILL TRUE TODAY AND WERE GOALS THAT WE WERE STILL WORKING TOWARDS? THEY WERE STILL ASPIRATIONAL WHEN WE WERE SEEKING TO GET THERE, BUT THAT IT WAS TIME TO REVISIT OUR STRATEGIES FOR THE THINGS WE WERE DOING TO TRY TO GET TO THOSE GOALS. ESPECIALLY OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. SO AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THE DECISION WAS MADE THAT WE WOULD REVISIT THE STRATEGIES AND WORK THROUGH THAT PROCESS. TO COME UP, MAKE SURE WE HAD GOOD STRATEGIES TO MEET THOSE GOALS WITHIN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM WHERE OUR ADMINISTRATORS AND SUPERVISORS WERE ASSIGNED IN THE TEAMS TO WORK ON THOSE GOALS. AND THEN TO CREATE FEEDBACK OPPORTUNITIES, FEEDBACK LOOPS WITHIN THE SYSTEM TO CREATE THE STRATEGIES THAT WOULD HELP US COME CLOSER TO ACHIEVING THOSE GOALS, OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. IN APRIL THE DRAFT STRATEGIES FROM THOSE TEAMS, WAS GOING TO BE MARCH, BUT SNOW HAPPENED. SO IN APRIL, WE MET AS AN ANS GROUP AND EVERYONE JUST PROVIDED FEEDBACK ON THOSE DRAFT STRATEGIES, AS A FULL TEAM. AND THEN WE USE THAT FEEDBACK TO DRAFT SORT OF THE PLAN OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. AND THAT DRAFT PLAN HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO THE BOARD AND WILL BE DISCUSSED TONIGHT. WE ALSO MADE SURE THAT ANY UPDATES WE WERE DOING WITHIN OUR STRATEGIES CONNECTED TO THE BLUEPRINT. BECAUSE IT IS THE EDUCATION LAW IN MARYLAND, AND IN 2019 IT WASN'T, IT WAS STILL THE KERWIN COMMISSION AND BEING WORKED THROUGH. ONCE WE HAD THAT DRAFTED IN THE BEST WAY WE COULD, LANGUAGE WISE, IT WAS SHARED WITH OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM IMPROVEMENT COUNCIL AND OUR CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR FEEDBACK. WE DID HAVE FURTHER REFINEMENTS. BOTH COMMITTEES WERE GREAT AT LOOKING AT SOME OF IT AND SAYING, THAT'S A LOT OF EDUCATION SPEAK, BUT WHAT DOES IT MEAN? WHICH WE APPRECIATED THE FEEDBACK. AND SO WE REVISED IT A LITTLE BIT MORE AND TIGHTENED IT UP A LITTLE BIT, AND THEN WE PUT IT OUT TO STAFF AND FAMILIES FOR FEEDBACK VIA SURVEY. AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET SOME FEEDBACK THAT WAY. A LOT OF AFFIRMATION THAT WE RECEIVED A FEW PIECES OF COMMENT THAT HELPED US MAKE A FURTHER REFINEMENT. SOME WERE A LITTLE STILL CONFUSING, SO WE WORKED THROUGH THAT PROCESS, AND THEN THE DRAFT PLAN WAS SENT TO THE BOARD IN JUNE. ORIGINALLY, WE WERE GOING TO DO IT IN JUNE BOARD MEETING, BUT JUNE BOARD MEETING WAS PRETTY FULL. SO WE DECIDED TO MOVE IT TO JULY BECAUSE JULY DIDN'T LOOK AS FULL AT THE TIME. SO IT'S GOING TO COME TO YOU TONIGHT FOR REVIEW. SO I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE, THE THINGS THAT ARE, THAT ARE THERE THAT WE DID WORK THROUGH. WE AGREED TO KEEP THE MISSION AND VISION THE SAME, WHICH IS WHAT THE BOARD READS BEFORE EVERY BOARD MEETING. WE DID FEEL THAT AGAIN AS THE BOARD DECIDED THAT THE CORE VALUES STILL HOLD TRUE FOR WHAT WE BELIEVE ABOUT THE EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE AND HOW WE SHOULD OPERATE AS A SCHOOL SYSTEM IN CAROLINE COUNTY. SO THERE WERE NO CHANGES THERE AS WE WORK THROUGH THE GOALS. THE GOALS THEMSELVES STAYED THE SAME. THE INTENT OF THE GOALS DID OF BUT THE FOUR GOALS THAT THE BOARD HAD AND WE AGREED WERE STILL ACCURATE AND I CONTEND TODAY THEY ARE STILL VERY ACCURATE AND WHERE OUR FOCUS NEEDS TO LIE. ACADEMIC EXCELLENCE, EQUITY FOR OUR STUDENTS, WELLNESS NOT JUST FOR STUDENTS, BUT FOR STAFF AND COMMUNICATION. MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE EFFECTIVELY COMMUNICATING WITH EVERYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR STAFF AND OUR FAMILIES. AND FROM THE AROUND, THESE ARE WHERE WE BUILT OUT OUR GOALS OR, SORRY, OUR STRATEGIES WHEN WORKING WITH OUR ANS, [00:30:05] JUST SO YOU KNOW WHAT WE WERE HOPING, TO GUIDE THEIR WORK. IN OUR STRATEGIES WE ASKED THEM THAT THEY HAD TO BE ACTIONABLE, HAD TO BE THINGS THAT WE COULD HOLD OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE TO AS WE PUT THEM IN PLACE OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS. TO BUILD THOSE OUT. WE ASK THAT THEY LOOK AT HOW THEY CONNECT TO THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES THAT I'VE LAID OUT FOR OUR STAFF. AND WE'VE ASKED FOR THEM TO LOOK AT WHERE ARE OUR STRENGTHS, WEAKNESSES, AND OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM TO DRIVE THAT WORK THAT WAS BEING DONE. SO WITH THAT, AND JUST TO HIGHLIGHT THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES THAT I'VE SHARED WITH STAFF AND AGAIN, I KNOW THE BOARD IS AWARE OF THESE I SHARED THESE WITH STAFF WHEN I FIRST CAME INTO THE POSITION NOW FOUR YEARS AGO, ABOUT THE THINGS THAT DRIVE MY WORK AND KEEPS AT THE FOREFRONT, AND I ASK MY TEAM TO KEEP IT FOREFRONT. AND AS WE'RE WORKING THROUGH AS A SCHOOL SYSTEM, THEY SHOULD REMAIN VISIBLE IN THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING EVERY DAY. AND THOSE ARE, ONE, WE MUST BE ONE FAMILY, CREATING THE ENVIRONMENT, THE CULTURE, THE VALUES, EVERYBODY VALUES ALL. WE MUST BE EXPLICIT ABOUT OUR EXPECTATION, GOALS AND OUTCOMES. WE MUST CONTINUE TO IMPLEMENT A TIERED SYSTEM OF SUPPORTS FOR STUDENTS AND ATTENDANCE, BEHAVIOR AND CURRICULUM. WE TEACH STUDENTS NOT CONTENT. WE MUST BUILD AN ENVIRONMENT THAT WELCOMES FAMILIES AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS. AND THE MOST IMPORTANT PLACE WITHIN CAROLINE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS IS THE CLASSROOM. AND THAT WE CAN'T LOSE SIGHT OF THESE AS WE'RE CRAFTING OUT THE STRATEGIES WITHIN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN. SO WITH THESE IN MIND IS WHERE THE ANS GROUP DUG IN WITH THEIR GROUPS AND TEACHER INPUT TO LEAD TO THE STRATEGIES, AND IF SO, I WILL WALK THE BOARD THROUGH THOSE AND FOR THE PUBLIC TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT WHERE WE ENDED UP. NOW, I WILL SAY, BECAUSE THIS IS IN FRONT OF THE BOARD FOR APPROVAL TONIGHT, BECAUSE THERE'S STILL TIME TO WORK THROUGH IT. WE DID NOT DO THE FULL WHAT WILL BE A GLOSSY PRODUCTION THAT WILL BE ABLE TO BE SHARED WITH EVERYBODY. UNTIL WE'RE FIRM ON SUPPORT FOR THE STRATEGIES THAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS TO GET TO THE GOALS AND THE OBJECTIVES. AND FRANKLY, WE JUST DIDN'T JUMP TO THERE YET UNTIL WE KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT THE PRODUCT WHERE WE WANT IT BEFORE WE MAKE THAT NEXT PUBLICATION MOVE. SO THE FINAL PRODUCT WILL NOT LOOK LIKE A FOUR PAGE WORD DOCUMENT THAT GOES OUT JUST SO EVERYBODY'S EVERYBODY'S CLEAR. I KNOW SANDY WILL DO A WONDERFUL JOB WITH IT. WE'LL MAKE SURE IT HITS ALL THOSE MARKETING PIECES. BUT UNDER ACADEMIC EXCELLENCE AND TRYING TO REALLY DIG INTO THERE WERE THREE STRATEGIES THAT ESPECIALLY OUR INSTRUCTIONAL TEAM FELT WE NEEDED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ENSHRINED, BUILD UPON THE WORK THAT WE WERE DOING, AND WE DO BELIEVE WILL LEAD US TO THOSE HIGHER DEGREES OF ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT FOR OUR STUDENTS. AND THAT'S IMPLEMENTING A RIGOROUS CURRICULUM ACROSS ALL GRADE LEVELS AND COURSES, ENSURING ALIGNMENT WITH STANDARDS AND USING HIGH QUALITY INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS TO CREATE ENGAGING AND CHALLENGING LEARNING EXPERIENCES FOR ALL STUDENTS. THESE DO MATCH VERY CLEARLY WITH THE GUIDANCE GUIDELINES THAT YOU'RE SEEING OUT OF THE STATE OR HEARING OUT OF THE STATE. THESE DO MATCH VERY MUCH WITH EVIDENCE BASED PRACTICES WHEN IT COMES TO TEACHING KIDS. IF WE WANT THINGS TO IMPROVE. OBJECTIVE TWO DEALS WITH, IN ESSENCE, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE DATA TO GUIDE OUR DECISIONS WITH KIDS, WE'RE GOING TO ENHANCE OUR COMPREHENSIVE SYSTEM OF FORMATIVE AND SUMMATIVE ASSESSMENTS. THAT FORMATIVE OR SHORT TERM SUMMATIVE ARE YOUR OLD SCHOOL TESTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO ENHANCE OUR SYSTEM ACROSS ALL CONTENT AREAS TO INFORM INSTRUCTIONAL DECISIONS, NOT JUST READING AND MATH, BUT TO BRANCH IT OUT, SO WE CAN GUIDE TARGETED INTERVENTIONS AND ENRICHMENT ACTIVITIES TO ENSURE THAT KIDS ARE MAKING PROGRESS. AND OBJECTIVE THREE IS INTEGRATE CAREER CONNECTED LEARNING FOR ALL STUDENTS AT ALL LEVELS IN ALL COURSES. THAT IS PILLAR THREE OF THE BLUEPRINT THAT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE TO EMBED CAREER CONNECTED LEARNING EVEN DOWN INTO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS FOR OUR KIDS. LINDSEY MCCORMICK HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF BUILDING THIS OUT ALONG WITH OUR SCHOOL COUNSELORS AND NIKKI FISHER. BUT THERE'S STILL A LOT MORE WORK TO BE DONE. WHICH IS WHY THE TEAM WANTED TO REALLY HIGHLIGHT THIS PIECE MOVING FORWARD. SO IN YOUR ACADEMIC EXCELLENCE, THOSE ARE THE THREE OBJECTIVES THAT IN ESSENCE, IF APPROVED, WE WOULD BE HOLDING OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE TO ON AN ANNUAL BASIS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS IN THOSE AREAS. AND WE DO BELIEVE THAT IF WE ARE, WE'RE MOVING THE SCHOOL SYSTEM FORWARD IN A DIRECTION THAT'S GREAT FOR OUR STUDENTS AND FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AS IT RELATES TO GOAL TWO AND WELLNESS, WE HAVE SCHOOL-BASED WELLNESS TEAMS AS PART OF OUR SCHOOL IMPROVEMENT PROCESS, AND WE WANT TO STRENGTHEN THOSE WELLNESS TEAMS. WE WANT TO BUILD THAT OUT WITH ENGAGEMENT FROM THE STAKEHOLDERS, STAFF, LEADERSHIP AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS. [00:35:02] LIKE I SAID, THIS IS PART OF OUR WORK THAT WE'RE DOING WITHIN OUR SCHOOL IMPROVEMENT PROCESS AND ALSO DOING THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY SCHOOLS WORK. SO IT'S ENSHRINING THIS PIECE. IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE ACADEMIC PIECE. THERE'S GOT TO BE A STRONG WELLNESS COMPONENT WITHIN THE SCHOOL FOR OUR STUDENTS TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND FOR OUR STAFF. OBJECTIVE TWO IS DEVELOP POLICY, PRACTICE AND PROGRAMS TO IDENTIFY, TRIAGE AND COMPREHENSIVELY SUPPORT STUDENTS WELLNESS NEEDS. WE NEED TO REFINE, IT'S BEEN A LITTLE WHILE SINCE WE'VE TOUCHED OUR WELLNESS PRACTICES AND PROCEDURES. WE HAVE POCKETS OF SUCCESS, BUT WE NEED TO STREAMLINE THAT ACROSS THE BOARD. TELEHEALTH POLICY MOVES US IN A GOOD DIRECTION WITH THAT. THAT WAS APPROVED TONIGHT. THAT OBJECTIVE THREE IMPLEMENT A COMPREHENSIVE SOCIAL AND EMOTIONAL WELLNESS SYSTEM ACROSS THE DISTRICT. WE ARE USING SURVEY DATA WITHIN PANORAMA TO HELP GUIDE OUR DECISION MAKING AND TO HELP OUR COUNSELORS WITH PROVIDING STRUCTURED SUPPORTS FOR OUR KIDS. IF THEY'RE IDENTIFYING, THEY'RE STRUGGLING WITH SOME THINGS. AND SOMETIMES WHEN OUR KIDS DON'T, WE CAN SEE IT. WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT BETTER TOOLKIT TO HELP OUR KIDS GET THE SUPPORT THAT THEY NEED WITHIN THE SCHOOL SETTING. UNDER GOAL THREE, THIS BUILDS UPON THE WORK THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY WITH STAFFING AN OBJECTIVE WAS TO RECRUIT AND RETAIN EFFECTIVE AND DIVERSE EDUCATORS AND STAFF AS PART OF THE GOAL TWO ALSO OF THE BLUEPRINT AND CONTINUE TO BUILD UPON THE PATHWAYS THAT OUR BOARD AND PREVIOUS BOARDS HAVE PUT IN PLACE TO ENCOURAGE MORE FOLKS INTO OUR INTO EDUCATION TO HIGHLIGHT ONE IN THE FIRST ITEM UNDER OUR STRATEGY IS BUILDING OUT OUR GROW YOUR OWN PROGRAM. DR. WILLOUGHBY HAS WORKED, AND HIS TEAM HAVE WORKED WELL TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR FOLKS AND OUR SUPPORT STAFF BARGAINING UNIT TO HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO WORK TOWARDS BECOMING A TEACHER AND TO SUPPORT THEM. WE'VE RECENTLY AGREED TO AN OPPORTUNITY WITH UMES TO BUILD OUT A PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM FOR RESIDENCY TEACHER PROGRAM, AND WE HAVE A MEETING ON THE BOOKS. I THINK WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS WITH MSDE FOR A NEW GROW YOUR OWN PROGRAM THEY'RE LOOKING AT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OTHER COLLEGES IN THE STATE OF MARYLAND. WE TRY TO PROVIDE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES, AND WE WANT TO KEEP WORKING THROUGH THAT, TO EXPAND OUR ACCESS TO A MORE DIVERSE EDUCATOR STAFF. UNDER OBJECTIVE TWO IDENTIFY AREAS OF DISPROPORTIONALITY, IDENTIFY CALLS AS AN ACTION STEP TO ADDRESS THEM. AND THIS DEALS WITH LOOKING AT OUR DATA AS IT RELATES TO ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT OR BEHAVIOR OR ATTENDANCE, AND SEEING IF THERE ARE ANY PATTERNS OF OVERREPRESENTATION BY CERTAIN GROUPS, LIKE IF WE NOTICE THAT OUR SPECIAL EDUCATION STUDENTS ARE MISSING SCHOOL MORE OFTEN THAN OTHER KIDS, WE NEED TO ZERO IN ON THAT POPULATION TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE ROOT CAUSES OF WHY THEY ARE, AND ADDRESS THE BARRIERS. IF WE FIND THAT OUR MALES ARE HAVING MORE ISSUES OF AGGRESSION IN AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CLASSROOM, WE NEED TO HONE IN ON THAT AND NOT JUST LOOK AT THE SURFACE LEVEL DATA, BUT DIG IN FURTHER AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE SUPPORTS IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND AND SUPPORT THEM. SO THAT'S BUILT INTO OBJECTIVE TWO. AND OBJECTIVE THREE IS PROMOTE POSITIVE STUDENT OUTCOMES THROUGH THE INTEGRATION OF CULTURAL RESPONSE AND RESTORATIVE APPROACHES. AS A SYSTEM, WE'VE PUT A LOT OF EFFORT INTO RESTORATIVE APPROACHES AND RESTORATIVE PRACTICES. ALSO, IN THE CONSCIOUS DISCIPLINE, WHICH IS WORKING WITH OUR STUDENTS TO UNDERSTAND WHY THEY'RE GETTING UPSET OVER THINGS OR UNDERSTANDING THEIR BRAIN STATE AND PUTTING STRATEGIES IN PLACE. LET THEM LEARN HOW TO SELF-REGULATE WHEN SOMETHING DOESN'T GO THEIR WAY. AND OF COURSE, CONTINUING TO BUILD OUT OUR PDIS EFFORTS TO SUPPORT OUR STUDENTS THAT WAY AS WELL. AND THEN LASTLY UNDER GOAL FOR COMMUNICATION. THESE ARE NOT RANK ORDER, THIS IS JUST THE ORDER THEY WERE IN THE LAST STRATEGIC PLAN. OBJECTIVE ONE INCREASING ENGAGEMENT THROUGH COMMUNICATION THAT'S TIMELY, TRANSPARENT, READILY ACCESSIBLE TO ALL STAKEHOLDERS. AND THIS IS WORKING ON CONTINUING TO REFINE WAYS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING TWO WAY COMMUNICATION OUT THERE AS A CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THE BOARD AND WITH ME ABOUT SHARING INFORMATION WITH THE COMMUNITY THROUGH QUARTERLY NEWSLETTERS PROVIDING OPPORTUNITIES TO GET THAT INFORMATION OUT THERE, NOT JUST THROUGH OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM. FOLKS ALSO CAME UP AT OUR CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING OF SOME WAYS THAT WE CAN STRENGTHEN COMMUNICATION EFFORTS. OBJECTIVE TWO IS STRENGTHENING THE SENSE OF COMMUNITY AMONG STAFF, STUDENTS, AND FAMILIES BY PROMOTING THE CAROLINE FAMILY IDENTITY AND UNIQUE IDENTITIES OF EACH INDIVIDUAL SCHOOL COMMUNITY. WITH THIS, I THINK ABOUT STRATEGIES LIKE NORTH CAROLINE HIGH SCHOOL'S UNITY PROGRAM, WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT LAST MONTH AT THE BOARD MEETING, YOU KNOW, HELPING TO PROMOTE OUR SCHOOLS, TO DO THINGS LIKE THAT, WHERE NORTH HIGH ISN'T THE EXAMPLE, THE ONE EXAMPLE OF, IT BECOMES A MODEL THAT WE BUILD OUT AT OUR OTHER SCHOOLS. [00:40:04] AND THEN OBJECTIVE THREE INCREASED STAFF AND STAKEHOLDER UNDERSTANDING AND USE OF COMMUNICATION TOOLS AND RESOURCES. KIND OF THE WORK TO HELP OUR STAFF HELP COMMUNICATE BETTER, BUT ALSO TO TELL OUR STORY, TO CONTINUE TO REFINE THAT PIECE, TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S ALSO ONGOING COMMUNICATION WITH STAFF. AS WE BUILD OUT. I THINK WE DO A GOOD JOB OF GETTING INFORMATION FROM OUR STAFF OVER THE ENGAGEMENT PROCESS. AND WE'VE USED FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS. WE CONTINUE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OPPORTUNITIES TO USE THAT DATA TO REFINE AND BUILD THINGS OUT AND CONTINUE TO MOVE THE SCHOOL SYSTEM FORWARD. SO WHAT'S BEFORE YOU REPRESENTS THE WORK OF ALL FOUR STAKEHOLDER GROUPS, FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY, FEEDBACK FROM OUR TWO ADVISORY PANELS. AND I SEEK THE BOARD'S APPROVAL ON THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES THIS EVENING. SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH PREPARING TO LAUNCH AT THE START OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, WHERE OUR STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. ANY QUESTIONS BOARD MEMBERS? I HAVE A COUPLE. YEAH. YOU'RE GOOD. OKAY. ONE FOR DR. WILLOUGHBY, I GUESS BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED THAT HE'S BEEN WORKING ON THE GROW YOUR OWN. HOW MUCH SUCCESS HAVE WE HAD SO FAR WITH THAT? WONDERFUL YEAH GREAT, GREAT INTERESTING. OKAY. SO IT HAS BEEN A VERY SUCCESSFUL GOOD. YOU CAN'T REPLICATE IT AS MUCH OKAY. FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR AGREEMENT. EXCEPT FOR THAT MUCH MONEY, WE CAN DO THIS FOR DISTRICT PUTTING OURSELVES OUT THERE, AND THE PILOTS REPLACE SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE REALLY IS, HIGHER ED IS ALWAYS PRODUCING A HIGHER ED. RIGHT. SO WE HAVE TO GET CREATIVE. AND I SAID BEFORE YOU GUYS WHY NOT HAVE THEM DO IT? APPRECIATE THAT. AND, RACHEL, COULD YOU GO BACK TO PAGE SIX OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN PROCESS? IS THAT IT? YES. MY QUESTION'S, IN NUMBER TWO AND ALSO NUMBER FOUR, AND IT'S THE FOURTH ONE IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME QUESTION. HOW ARE WE GOING TO, LIKE IT SAYS WE MUST BE EXPLICIT ABOUT EXPECTATIONS, GOALS AND OUTCOMES. HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO THAT? I REALLY BELIEVE WE HAVE A VIABLE CURRICULUM, NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT. BUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO? WAS THERE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TO GET THIS INFORMATION TO OUR STUDENTS SO THAT THEY RECEIVE IT IN THE SAME WAY. YEAH. SO THESE MISS WAYMAN, WERE THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES THAT I SHARE WITH ALL ADMINISTRATORS AND ALL STAFF THAT EVERY DAY WHEN WE SHOW UP TO WORK, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT. SO FOR LIKE ITEM TWO FOR BEING EXPLICIT ABOUT EXPECTATION GOALS AND OUTCOMES. IF I HAVE A CLASS FULL OF STUDENTS IN FRONT OF ME AS THE TEACHER IN FRONT OF THEM, I NEED TO MAKE SURE THE KIDS KNOW WHAT I WANT THEM TO LEARN. EVERY DAY. EVERY DAY WE NEED TO GO OVER OUR OBJECTIVES FOR THE DAY, WHAT IT IS THAT I WANT THEM TO LEARN, [00:45:06] WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO TO BE SUCCESSFUL. AND IF IT'S BEHAVIORAL EXPECTATIONS, I NEED TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THOSE AS WELL. I DON'T WANT AMBIGUITY. I CAN HIT A TARGET IF I KNOW WHAT THE TARGET IS, IF I DON'T KNOW A TARGET, I MIGHT MISS IT. OKAY. SO I WANT US TO BE EXPLICIT EVERY DAY ABOUT THAT. AND IF IT'S ADMINISTRATORS, IF IT'S FOLKS WORKING WITH STAFF, THEY TOO NEED TO BE CLEAR, BECAUSE ADULTS NEED TO KNOW WHAT TARGETS THEY'RE HITTING. RIGHT. WE HAVE TO BE EXPLICIT WITH EVERYBODY THERE AS WELL. AND THEN WITH ITEM FOUR. YEAH, THE FREQUENT DISCUSSIONS. YEAH. FOR ME, THE REMINDER ON ITEM FOUR AND AS A FORMER SECONDARY TEACHER, I'M ALL IN THIS, AS MOST PEOPLE BACK IN THE DAY, NOT THIS DAY, BACK IN THE DAY, AND I SAW DR. WILLOUGHBY NOD. IF YOU ASKED ME WHAT I TAUGHT, I TAUGHT HISTORY, I TAUGHT GOVERNMENT. IF YOU ASK AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WHAT THEY TEACH, THEY TEACH KIDS. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE. ABSOLUTELY. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE. AND THEN NO, I TEACH KIDS ABOUT HISTORY. RIGHT. OR I USE HISTORY TO TEACH KIDS. IT DID CHANGE THE WAY THAT I APPROACHED MY LESSON PLANNING AND THE WAY THAT I DID MY WORK. IT CHANGED THE CARE THAT I HAD FOR EVERY KID IN THE CLASSROOM. AND HONESTLY, IT TOOK SOME ELEMENTARY TEACHERS OPENING MY EYES MANY, MANY YEARS AGO AS A TEACHER. THERE'S JUST A DIFFERENT LEVEL. SO IT WAS THAT REMINDER FOR EVERYBODY THAT THE KIDS ARE WHAT'S IMPORTANT. AND WE HAVE TO SHARE THAT REMINDER ON OPENING DAY AND THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. THOSE ARE MY ONLY COMMENTS. NO PROBLEM. ANY OTHERS? I JUST HAD ONE. AND REALLY JUST SORT OF CONGRATULATE AND CONGRATULATE AND RECOGNIZE THE CREATIVITY OF DR. WILLOUGHBY AND HIS TEAM BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IN A COMMUNITY LIKE OURS, GROWING OUR OWN IS SO IMPORTANT. THOSE ARE THE FOLKS THAT ARE GOING TO COME BACK TO WORK. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN EVIDENT OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. AND, YOU KNOW, AS WE CONTINUE TO BUILD OUT THAT AND TO KIND OF REACH FOR THE CREATIVE, I, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT OTHER GROW YOUR OWN OPPORTUNITIES RELATED TO, YOU KNOW I THINK ABOUT OUR IT DEPARTMENT AND, YOU KNOW, OUR SCHOOL HEALTH ROOMS AND SPEECH AND LANGUAGE AND JUST LOOKING AT OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO CREATE PROGRAMS LIKE THAT, WHERE WE'RE IDENTIFYING THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING FOLKS IN A CREATIVE WAY. BECAUSE I DON'T ANTICIPATE THE STAFFING CHALLENGES WE HAVE RIGHT NOW TO IMPROVE ANYTIME SOON. AND I THINK WE'VE, PROVEN THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF TO DO THIS ON OUR OWN. SO KUDOS ON BEING PROACTIVE. THAT'S GOOD. THANK YOU. THAT'S GREAT. IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, CAN I PLEASE GET A MOTION FROM THE BOARD TO ACCEPT THE 2025 THROUGH 2030 STRATEGIC PLAN? SURE. I CAN DO THAT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE 2025-2030 STRATEGIC PLAN. I'LL SECOND. IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE ACCEPT THE PRESENTED STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE YEARS 2025 THROUGH 2030. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? SO CARRIED. THANK EACH PERSON, IT'S A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE. I GLADLY, WILL. THERE WAS A LOT OF GOOD WORK PUT INTO THAT. ABSOLUTELY WE'LL DO. YEAH. LET THEM KNOW WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. AND WE WILL GET THE FINAL, PRETTY VERSION, POLISHED VERSION. AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THE BOARD GETS A COPY OF IT BEFORE IT GOES OUT TO EVERYBODY AS WELL. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. AND NOW, MR. MENGEL. I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS MOMENT. [6. Reports and Presentations] SORRY [LAUGHTER] NOW IT'S THE MR. MENGEL, AND YES. YES. YES, HE'S BEEN WAITING FOR THIS YES. YES. YES. ABSOLUTELY. WE ENJOYED GOING THROUGH THIS AGAIN. I WENT THROUGH IT AT HOME TODAY, SO I'D BE READY [LAUGHTER] IN ALL SINCERITY, THOUGH, WE DO APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE BRINGING TO US. NO PROBLEM. I LIKE TO JOKE WITH MR. MENGEL. YOU DON'T KNOW THAT ALREADY. I'LL PUT MY RIGHT GLASSES ON HERE SO I CAN SEE. GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT WAYMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. DR. SIMMONS, I HOPE TO GET THIS SEND BEFORE THE THUNDERSTORMS KNOCK OUT POWER. HOPEFULLY WE CAN STAY LIT FOR A COUPLE HOURS. I HAVE FAITH, I HAVE FAITH [LAUGHTER] I'M NOT PLANNING ON BEING HERE FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS, BUT LET'S BE GOOD ABOUT IT. SO HEY, I'M REALLY EXCITED TONIGHT ABOUT BEING ABLE TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD KIND OF THE FRUITS OF OUR LABOR THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IN THE FORMS OF THREE DIFFERENT PRESENTATIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT. I FIRST WANT TO TELL YOU, THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU, A LOT OF INFORMATION. AND AS YOU READ THROUGH SOME OF THE INFORMATION LIKE THE EFMP, IT'S STATS, FACTS AND DATA. IT'S PACKED. SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE EFMP A LITTLE BIT. [00:50:03] WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO THE EDUCATIONAL SPEC STUDY AND THE FEASIBILITY STUDY , WHICH ARE PERTINENT TO THE NEW BUILD THAT WE'RE WORKING ON. AND I HAVE MY TWO TEAMS HERE THAT I'LL INTRODUCE TO YOU WHEN IT'S TIME, WHEN IS THEIR TIME TO COME UP. I DO WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE EFMP. IT'S AN ANNUAL DOCUMENT ACQUIRED BY THE STATE OF MARYLAND, AND I'M SEEKING THE BOARD OF EDUCATION'S APPROVAL FOR THE FY 25, THE EFMP, THE RULES AND REGULATIONS AND PROCEDURES FOR THE INTERAGENCY COMMISSION ON SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION KNOWN AS THE IAC, REQUIRES THAT EACH LEA TO ANNUALLY SUBMIT OR AMEND ITS SCHOOL SYSTEM EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES MASTER PLAN. THE MASTER PLAN IS A PLANNING TOOL THAT DEALS WITH THE LEAS PROJECTED FACILITY NEEDS BY UTILIZING DATA AND SYSTEMATIC FACTORS FOR EACH OF CAROLINE COUNTIES, TOWNSHIPS, AND UNINCORPORATED AREAS. STUDIES INCLUDING COMMUNITY ANALYSIS, DETAILED DISCUSSIONS WITH THE IAC, AND STUDENT ENROLLMENT FIGURES THAT HELP GUIDE CAROLINE COUNTY'S BOARD OF EDUCATION WITH DECISIONS TO MOVE FORWARD. IN TERMS OF OUR BUILDING SCHOOL BUILDING NEEDS. THE ANALYSIS AND CONCLUSIONS ASSIST IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, WHICH I WILL BRING TO YOU GUYS IN SEPTEMBER. THE EFMP MUST BE SUBMITTED TO THE STATE BY JULY 1ST, 2025, WHICH IS TODAY. SO MAYBE WITH MR. RYAN'S HELP HERE. AFTERWARDS, WE'RE GOING TO RUSH BACK TO MY OFFICE AND SUBMIT THIS REAL QUICK AND HIT THAT DEADLINE. NO. ALL THINGS TRANSPARENT. I DID GET, I DID GET APPROVAL TO GO AN EXTRA DAY. BUT I PLAN ON GETTING IT DONE HERE THIS EVENING. SO THIS DOCUMENT, I USUALLY IT'S FAST, IT'S HUGE. AND I USUALLY EACH YEAR JUST TALK ABOUT 3 OR 4 POINTS. THIS YEAR I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SEVEN AND NOT BECAUSE I WANT TO TALK FOREVER. IT'S JUST THAT A LOT OF THE POINTS THAT I FEEL ARE IN HERE ARE REALLY RELEVANT TO THE NEW SCHOOL BUILD, AND SO I JUST WANT TO KIND OF BRING IT UP TO YOU GUYS AND, AND YOU'LL KIND OF HOPEFULLY SEE WHAT THE CONNECTION WITH THE EFMP. AND THEN AS WE TRANSITION INTO THE SPECS AND THEN EVENTUALLY TRANSITION TO THE MUCH ANTICIPATED FEASIBILITY STUDY I GOT TWO REALLY EXCELLENT PRESENTATIONS COMING FROM BOTH TEAMS. THAT I'M SURE YOU'LL BE THRILLED ABOUT. ONCE WE GET TO THAT POINT. PROBABLY LIKE IT BETTER THAN MY PRESENTATION. HOPEFULLY YOU DO. SO THOSE FIVE SPEAKING POINTS I WANT TO TALK ABOUT COMES RIGHT OUT OF THE EFMP AND ONE IS THE CONSTRUCTION PROGRAM, THE SCHOOL CLOSING PROCEDURES, THE CURRENT POPULATION AND HOUSING TRENDS, THE POPULATION PROJECTIONS, THE ENROLLMENT PROJECTIONS, NON-PUBLIC ENROLLMENT IN CAROLINE COUNTY, WHICH IS SOMETHING NEW, AND I'LL EXPLAIN WHY WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT VERY BRIEFLY. AND THEN THE RECOMMENDED FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS PRIORITIES, WHICH CAME FROM THE PREVIOUS ASPECTS. I'M SORRY. YEAH. PREVIOUS ASPECTS BACK IN 2006 FROM LOCKERMAN SCHOOL. SO WE'RE GOING TO KIND OF TIE A LOT OF THINGS TOGETHER HERE. LET ME SEE IF I GOT THIS WORKING RIGHT. I TURN IT ON RIGHT RACHEL? OKAY. LET ME JUST TEST IT. OKAY, GOOD. GOT IT. ALL RIGHT. CONSTRUCTION PROGRAM. IT FOCUSES ON THE NEW MAJOR CONSTRUCTION ADDITIONS AND RENOVATIONS TO CCPS BUILDINGS. THESE PROJECTS ARE GENERALLY MORE EXPENSIVE AND COSTLY THAN THE PROJECTS THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED THROUGH A REGULAR MAINTENANCE PROGRAMS. TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THESE THESE PROJECTS. THEY DO RECEIVE STATE FUNDING FROM THE IAC. SUCH EXAMPLES OF THESE TYPE OF PROJECTS WOULD BE LIKE WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS, SO EXTENSIVE ROOFING PROJECTS THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH MULTI MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR PROJECTS, CLASSROOM CONVERSIONS AND OF COURSE THE POTENTIAL NEW SCHOOL BUILD. SCHOOL CLOSING PROCEDURES, I STARTED THIS AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU WHY. CURRENTLY, THERE'S NO PLANS FOR CLOSING ANY PUBLIC SCHOOL FACILITY IN CAROLINE COUNTY. ALL EXISTING CCPS FACILITIES ARE EXPECTED TO CONTINUE IN USE FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. THAT LAST SENTENCE, USUALLY IT SAYS TEN YEARS. WE HAVE CHANGED IT TO FIVE YEARS, BECAUSE IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL, THIS WILL COME INTO PLAY IN FIVE YEARS. BUT I'M NOT GOING TO PUT THAT INTO AN AMENDMENT UNTIL PROBABLY NEXT YEAR AS WE GET A LITTLE DEEPER INTO THE BUILD PROCESS. SO WE CAN KIND OF SEE WHAT THE TIMELINE LOOKS LIKE. MAYBE IT DOES GO BACK TO SEVEN YEARS OR TEN YEARS, BUT AT THAT POINT, MAYBE NEXT YEAR AT THIS TIME, WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE BETTER IDEA WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE TIMELINE WITH THE BUILD. SO THAT'S WHY I STARTED BECAUSE IT'S NORMALLY A TEN YEAR THING AND IT IS ONLY A FIVE YEAR FOR THIS YEAR. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO. GET IT. CURRENT POPULATION AND HOUSING TRENDS. THIS IS SOME FURTHER DATA THAT WAS EXTRACTED FROM THE 2020 CENSUS. FOR MOST OF THE 21ST CENTURY CAROLINE COUNTY HAS HAD STABLE OR SLIGHT DECLINE IN POPULATION. THIS IS REALLY TYPICAL IN MOST RURAL AREAS, ESPECIALLY HERE IN THE EASTERN SHORE. POPULATION GROWTH IN CAROLINE COUNTY IN RECENT DECADES IS LINKED IN PART TO THE OVERALL GROWTH OF THE EASTERN SHORE, RESULTING FROM IMPROVED COMMUTING ACCESS PROVIDED BY THE BAY BRIDGE. I KNOW SOME DAYS THAT MAY BE HARD TO BELIEVE. [00:55:01] AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPMENT OF SIGNIFICANT EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES IN NEIGHBORING AREAS SUCH AS LIKE EASTON, DOVER, SEAFORD. DURING THE DECADE OF 2000 TO 2010, CAROLINE COUNTY'S GROWTH RATE WAS 11.4%. THE GROWTH RATE FOR THE STATE IN THE SAME DECADE WAS 9%. THE NEXT DECADE DURING 2010 2020, CAROLINE'S GROWTH RATE WAS 1.1%. MAJOR. MAJOR FALL. OKAY. THE LOWEST GROWTH RATE OF THE FIVE COUNTIES IN EASTERN SHORE WAS CAROLINE COUNTY. OF THOSE THAT HAD ACTUAL GROWTH RATES FOR THAT PARTICULAR DECADE. TO PUT THAT IN UNDERSTANDING THE GROWTH RATE FOR THE STATE WAS 6.7%. BY COMPARISON, CAROLINE OUTPACED DORCHESTER, BUT WAS LOWER THAN QUEEN ANNE'S AND TALBOT COUNTIES. POPULATION PROJECTIONS. THESE ARE PROJECTIONS THAT ARE PROVIDED BY THE MARYLAND DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING, MDP. TOTAL POPULATION IS NOW EXPECTED TO GROW SLOWER. AT A SLOWER RATE FROM NEARLY 33,000 PEOPLE IN 2015 TO APPROXIMATELY 44,500 IN 2045. THAT'S ABOUT 12,000 PEOPLE OVER 30 YEARS. COMES OUT TO ABOUT 400 PEOPLE PER YEAR MIGRATING INTO CAROLINE COUNTY. IF YOU WANT TO COMPARE THAT AVERAGE TO ANNUAL GROWTH OF JUST OVER 1% FOR THE DECADE OF 2000 TO 2010 VERSUS BASICALLY 2/10 OF 1% FOR THE DECADE OF TWO, 10 TO 20. AGAIN, TO SHOW THE RISE OF THE FIRST DECADE IN THE IN THE, IN THE CENTURY TO THE NEXT, THE SECOND ONE OF 2010-2020, THE OVERALL GROWTH FOR VARIOUS FIVE YEAR PERIODS BETWEEN 2020 TO 2045 IS ESTIMATED TO BE 1.1%. I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT IN THE SECOND DECADE OF 2010 TO 2020, CAROLINE COUNTY DEATHS EXCEEDED BIRTHS AT A RATIO OF 4 TO 1. SO IT MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO DO A LITTLE BIT WITH THE DECLINE. OKAY. THE LARGEST INCREASE, THE SILVER LINING ON THIS, WAS THE GROWTH OF THE HISPANIC AND LATINO POPULATIONS, INCREASING BY 928 PEOPLE FROM 2010 TO 2020. THIS IS MORE THAN THREE TIMES THAT OF THE NATURAL INCREASE OF THE SAME TIME PERIOD. SO THERE'S A LOT OF MIGRATION COMING IN FROM THOSE COMMUNITIES. THERE WAS A SHARP POPULATION DROP IN 2019 AND 2020 JUST PRE-COVID. THE SAME TIMELINE THAT THE STATE OF MARYLAND HAD ITS LARGEST ANNUAL POPULATION INCREASE OF 2%. SO MARYLAND WAS DOING OKAY. CAROLINE COUNTY WAS NOT. SINCE 2020, MARYLAND'S POPULATION HAS GROWN, BUT A MUCH SLOWER RATE THAN THAT OF THE US. CURRENT ESTIMATES INDICATE THAT THIS TREND WILL CONTINUE UNTIL NATIONAL ECONOMIC AND HOUSING CONDITIONS IMPROVE. SO YOU KIND OF THINK ABOUT SOME OF THIS STUFF KIND OF MAKES SENSE OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING AND WHAT I'M PRESENTING, IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ROCKET SCIENTISTS. ALL RIGHT, NEXT ONE IS OUR PROJECTED FULL-TIME ENROLLMENT FOR STUDENTS. THE CCPS ENROLLMENT PROJECTIONS ARE EXPECTED TO REFLECT THE COUNTY'S POPULATION PROJECTIONS. OBVIOUSLY, IF WE HAVE A DECREASE IN PEOPLE MOVING HERE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DECREASE IN THE POPULATION, PROBABLY KIDS COME TO OUR SCHOOLS. ENROLLMENT PROJECTIONS AND ASSIGNMENTS TO INDIVIDUAL SCHOOLS USED IN EFMP ARE BASED ON CERTAIN ASSUMPTIONS AND TRENDS. CHANGES IN THESE ASSUMPTIONS, TRENDS, OR OCCURRENCES OF UNFORESEEABLE EVENTS CAN SIGNIFICANTLY ALTER THE FUTURE ENROLLMENT. SO THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD DATA ON THIS. AND AGAIN, THIS CAME FROM MDP, SO WE STARTED 2024, AND I DO UNDERSTAND THIS IS 2025, BUT THESE ARE THE NUMBERS THAT WE WERE GIVEN. SO IF YOU LOOK AT, LET'S LOOK AT 2025 AND GO TO THE VERY BOTTOM LINE IT SAYS FTE ALL SCHOOLS. SO THE PROJECTED ENROLLMENT WAS 5559 STUDENTS. IF YOU TAKE YOUR FINGER AND YOU GO FROM LEFT TO RIGHT SLOWLY, AND YOU KIND OF JUST LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS. YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S A GRADUAL YET STEADY INCREASE UP TO 2034. IT'S ABOUT 350 STUDENTS OKAY. SO IT'S THERE, IT'S GRADUAL. WE'RE NOT SEEING ANY BIG SPIKES. WE'RE NOT SEEING ANY BIG DIPS EITHER. WHERE THE UNFORESEEABLE EVENTS THAT COULD HAPPEN IS THINGS LIKE WHAT MAY BE OCCURRING HERE IN DENTON, THE IN CAROLINE COUNTY, THE PROJECTED POPULATION BOOM, IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT THAT. WE'RE PROBABLY MOST LIKELY TO HAPPEN HERE IN DENTON. THEY DO HAVE SEVERAL PLANNED COMMUNITIES IN THEIR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHETHER THEY COME ONLINE IN YEAR FOUR OF THIS CHART, YEAR SEVEN, YEAR TEN OR BEYOND. WE DON'T KNOW. BUT ONCE THAT HAPPENS, I DO EXPECT TO SEE A LITTLE BIT OF A SPIKE THERE. DEPENDING ON WHICH ONE COMES ONLINE, HOW BIG IT IS, HOW MANY CHILDREN MOVE IN WITH FAMILIES. [01:00:02] SO AGAIN, TAKE THIS WITH A GRAIN OF SALT, BUT IT DOES LOOK LIKE THERE'S A STEADY ENROLLMENT GROWTH. SLOW BUT STEADY FOR THE NEXT 9 TO 10 YEARS. NON-PUBLIC ENROLLMENT IN CAROLINE COUNTY. SO I'VE NEVER TALKED ABOUT THIS SLIDE EVER. IT'S REALLY KIND OF SMALL, BUT THERE'S A NEW PLAYER IN THE GAME, SO WE KNOW WE HAVE THREE NON-PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN OUR, IN OUR COUNTY. IMMANUEL LUTHERAN NURSERY SCHOOL, ST. PAUL'S PRESCHOOL AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE BENEDICTINE SCHOOL. A FOURTH ONE OPENED SMITHSON'S CHRISTIAN SCHOOL IN 2025, IN PRESTON. IT'S A K-12 ENROLLED NON-PUBLIC SCHOOL. FROM THE DATA THAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO GATHER, THEY HAVE 13 KIDS ENROLLED. AND RIGHT NOW THEY'RE ONLY IN GRADES ONE THROUGH EIGHT. SO DOES THOSE KIDS MOVE UP? MAYBE SOME MORE COME IN. NOT A BIG PLAYER FOR US, BUT, I MEAN, WE MAY GO IN SOME TOUGH BUDGET TIMES, AND EVERY KID'S GOING TO COUNT WITH STATE FUNDING. SO JUST WANT TO LET THE BOARD KNOW THAT THERE IS ANOTHER PLAYER WITHIN CAROLINE COUNTY. AND LASTLY, THE RECOMMENDED FACILITY IMPROVEMENT PRIORITIES. THIS IS . I'M SO SORRY. I'M TERRIBLE AT THIS. THERE WE GO. YES. THE RECOMMENDED IMPROVEMENT FACILITY'S PRIORITIES FOR LOCKERMAN. THE MOST RECENT FEASIBILITY STUDY HAPPENED IN 2006. IT WAS RECOGNIZED THEN AS A KEYSTONE FACILITY. KEY FINDINGS FROM THE RENOVATIONS OF 1959, 1963 AND 1977, WHERE THE NEEDS WERE TO ADDRESS IMPORTANT INGRESS AND EGRESS CODE ISSUES. OTHER POINTS OF INTEREST THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IS THAT THEY NEED TO ELIMINATE THE OPEN SPACE CLASSROOMS. WE NEED TO IMPROVE SECURITY, AND THEY NEED TO EXPAND THE UNDERSIZED MEDIA CENTER AND THE CAFETERIA. SO AS A RESULT OF THESE ISSUES, IT WAS ESTIMATED THAT THE STATE RATED CAPACITY OF LOCKERMAN WOULD DECREASE BY APPROXIMATELY 150 STUDENTS, COMPOUNDING THE CAPACITY SITUATION. AND IT'S KIND OF WHERE WE FIND OURSELVES AT NOW, WHICH IS KIND OF SPURRING US TO BUILD A NEW MIDDLE SCHOOL AS WE GO FORWARD. SO THAT IS WHAT I HAVE FOR THE EFMP. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS. DO EACH OF THESE SEPARATELY? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. SO THEN WHAT I REQUEST IS APPROVAL OF THE 2025 OR THE FY 25 EFMP. I JUST, I DO WANT TO ASK. YES. GO AHEAD. AND I THINK I HEARD IT ONCE, BUT I. I'D LIKE ANOTHER EXPLANATION. INGRESS VERSUS EGRESS. SO I THINK TO TALK ABOUT THERE. I DIDN'T DO A LOT OF RESEARCH ON THAT. I THINK WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ACCESS INTO THE BUILDING, ACCESS TO THE BUILDING, OFF OF THE STREETS, OFF THE ROADS THEY IDENTIFIED AS BEING A SAFETY CONCERN BACK THEN. AND THAT'S WHY WE DID SOME ADDITIONS. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. CAN WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE EFMP AS PRESENTED BY MR. MENGEL. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES MASTER PLAN FOR FY 2025. SECOND, PLEASE. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE ACCEPT THE FISCAL YEAR 25 EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES MASTER PLAN. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SO, CARRIED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MENGEL. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE LOCKERMAN MIDDLE SCHOOL SPECIFICATIONS. PERFECT. I WILL STAY UP HERE TO INTRODUCE OUR FIRST TEAM. SO I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF WIND OUT OF THE PRESENTATION. I'VE HEARD THE PRESENTATION. I THINK SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE BEEN PRESENT FOR SOME OF THEIR PRESENTATION. IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILED. THEY'VE DRILLED DOWN A LITTLE DEEPER, SO THEY'LL GIVE YOU SOME NEW INFORMATION. BUT THIS IS FOR THE, I'M SORRY I GOT THE WRONG ONE. IT'S CLEARLY MUCH THICKER THAN MINE. SO WHAT I'M SEEKING IS THE CAROLINE COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION TO APPROVE THE EDUCATIONAL SPECIFICATIONS STUDY FOR THE NEW MIDDLE SCHOOL, AS PRESENTED BY EDUCATION FACILITIES PLANNING, LLC. THIS STUDY WAS A CULMINATION OF VARIOUS REPRESENTATIVE COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT INCLUDED CCPS DISTRICT ADMINISTRATION, LOCKERMAN MIDDLE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION AND STAFF, CAROLINE COUNTY COMMUNITY MEMBERS, CAROLINE COUNTY GOVERNMENT LEADERS, THE MSDE, THE IAC, AS WELL AS OUR CONSULTANTS FROM EDUCATION FACILITIES PLANNING LLC. WE MET SEVERAL TIMES TOGETHER OVER A PERIOD OF THREE MONTHS. THIS COMMITTEE APPROACHED AND WORKED THROUGH THIS STUDY SYSTEMATICALLY. AN ENGAGING FORUM WAS DEVELOPED WHERE MEMBERS OPENLY PARTICIPATED AND ADDED VALUABLE INPUT AND IDEAS TO WHAT THIS NEW BUILD SHOULD BE COMPRISED OF TO BEST MEET THE NEEDS OF [01:05:10] STUDENTS, STAFF AND OUR COMMUNITY. FROM THIS PROCESS, THE CONSULTANTS ALSO DEVELOPED A SPACE SUMMARY REPORT FOR THE NEW BUILDING. THE SPACE SUMMARY REPORT WAS THEN PRESENTED TO THE FEASIBILITY STUDY TEAM, LED BY TCA ARCHITECTS, TO ENHANCE BASIC DRAWINGS AND RENDITIONS OF WHAT A NEW BUILDING COULD POSSIBLY LOOK LIKE. SO AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO TURN THIS OVER TO OUR CONSULTANTS, DR. DAVID LEVER, WHO'S THE PRINCIPAL OF EDUCATION FACILITIES PLANNING, LLC, AND HIS ASSOCIATE MISS DEBBIE SZYFER. THANK YOU, MR. MENGEL. PRESIDENT WAYMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. DR. SIMMONS WE'VE BEEN DELIGHTED TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT. IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT. IT'S ONE THAT I'VE KNOWN ABOUT FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. ACTUALLY, IN MY OTHER ROLES THAT I HAD BEFORE, I BECAME INDEPENDENT CONSULTANT, HELPING BOARDS OF EDUCATION. LIKE YOUR OWN. DO WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE THE. PICK ITSELF UP OKAY WE CAN. OKAY. WELL, WHILE YOU'RE VOTING IT UP. WE CAN GET IT UP. OKAY. WE CAN TALK. RIGHT. WHAT WE INTEND TO DO TONIGHT IS TO TAKE YOU THROUGH TALK ABOUT OURSELVES VERY BRIEFLY. GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND ON THE FACILITY, WHICH I'M SURE YOU'RE ALREADY VERY FAMILIAR WITH. TALK ABOUT THE EDUCATIONAL SPECIFICATION PROCESS ITSELF. KEY OUTCOMES THAT HAVE COME FROM OUR STUDY OF THE EDUCATIONAL SPECIFICATION . TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS AND THEN OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION. JUST BY WAY OF INTRODUCTION. I'M A REGISTERED ARCHITECT. I WAS WITH PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS FOR SIX AND A HALF YEARS AS DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES WHEN I MOVED UP TO THE STATE. I WAS THE DIRECTOR OF THE STATEWIDE CONSTRUCTION PROGRAM FOR 13 YEARS. AND THEN SINCE 2016, I'VE HAD MY OWN PRACTICE. I'VE WORKED WITH TEN OF THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS, RANGING FROM THE SMALLEST KENT COUNTY TO THE THIRD LARGEST, I BELIEVE, SECOND LARGEST, ACTUALLY, PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY, AND SEVERAL IN BETWEEN. AND WITH ME IS DEBBIE SZYFER. THE LAST NAME IS DIFFICULT TO PRONOUNCE. LET ME TELL YOU, SO IT TOOK ME A WHILE, SO GET USED TO THAT. SHE'LL TALK ABOUT HERSELF, AND IT'S EVEN HARDER TO SPELL. GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT WAYMAN, DR. SIMMONS AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF EDUCATION. I'M VERY PLEASED TO BE HERE. AND I'LL MAKE THIS A LITTLE LONGER WHILE THEY LOAD UP THE PRESENTATION. I'M VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE. AND MY BACKGROUND? I AM AN EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES PLANNER. I SPENT 30 YEARS WITH THE LARGEST SCHOOL DISTRICT IN MARYLAND, WHICH WAS MONTGOMERY COUNTY SCHOOLS, AND WITH THEM I DID WELL OVER 75 EDUCATIONAL SPECIFICATION S. I AM NOW AFTER 30 YEARS. I RETIRED ABOUT THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO AND NOW I'M IN PRIVATE PRACTICE AS WELL, WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH DR. LEVER AND WORKING NOW WITH A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND ENJOYING VERY MUCH WORKING WITH CAROLINE COUNTY AND WITH LOCKERMAN MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND EVEN JUST TODAY. GAINED A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION THAT I'M GOING TO TWEAK THE ED SPEC JUST A LITTLE BIT TO REFLECT YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN THAT YOU JUST APPROVED. SO SPECS EVEN AS ARE APPROVED, ARE AN EVER EVOLVING DOCUMENT TO REFLECT WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND TO REFLECT THE NEEDS OF THE STUDENTS. SO I APPRECIATE A LOT OF WHAT WE JUST LEARNED TODAY. AND SO IF THAT'S OKAY, EVEN IF YOU DO APPROVE IT TODAY, WE'LL WANT TO MAKE A SMALL CHANGE. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. I HAVE A QUESTION MIC] OH, MR. SCHIEFFER HAS BEEN AN INVALUABLE PARTNER WITH ME IN DEVELOPING ASPECTS. SHE BRINGS TO THIS A WEALTH OF INFORMATION. IT'S JUST HELPED US IMMENSELY MOVING THROUGH THIS PROCESS. BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO INTRODUCE A THIRD PERSON WHO IS MAXWELL IS WORKING AS AN INTERN DEVELOPING THE ARCHIVAL HISTORY OF LOCKERMAN MIDDLE SCHOOL, WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE COMMUNITY INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY TO PUT TOGETHER THE HISTORY AND TO DEVELOP THE KIND OF MATERIALS THAT WE WANT TO SEE DISPLAYED IN THE NEW SCHOOL. THE NEW SCHOOL, EVEN IF IT'S IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION, WHICH WE HOPE IT WILL BE, NEEDS TO HAVE CARRY FORWARD THE LEGACY OF WHAT THE SCHOOL WAS [01:10:01] AND THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'VE HAD TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS THAT WERE VERY, VERY CLEAR THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY WANT TO SEE. SO WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL THAT MR. SCHEIN IS WORKING WITH US ON THIS. BY WAY OF BACKGROUND AND MUCH OF THIS, YOU KNOW, THE LOCKERMAN MIDDLE SCHOOL HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. YOU'VE RECOGNIZED THE NEEDS TO ADDRESS THAT SCHOOL FOR A LONG TIME. IT HAS A VERY LONG CONSTRUCTION HISTORY, GOING BACK TO 1938, WHEN THE ORIGINAL BUILDING WAS ESTABLISHED, AND THERE HAVE BEEN ADDITIONS SINCE THEN. THERE'S BEEN DEMOLITION. THERE'S BEEN SOME RENOVATION WORK. IT IS AN INADEQUATE FACILITY IN MANY RESPECTS. AND YOU'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT IN THE FACILITY ASSESSMENT LATER ON TODAY. AMONG OTHER THINGS, THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE IS AT LEAST 30,000FT² LESS THAN IT SHOULD BE FOR THE STUDENT POPULATION, WHICH OF COURSE RESULTS IN OVERCROWDING OF CLASSROOMS, OVERCROWDING OF THE HALLWAYS. DEBBIE AND I HAVE BOTH WITNESSED THAT. WE'VE BEEN IN SCHOOL DURING CLASS CHANGES, WE'VE SEEN WHAT A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT ISSUE THAT IS AND MORE POWER TO THE STAFF IF THEY'RE ABLE TO HANDLE ALL OF THAT AND KEEP A VERY WELL DISCIPLINED AND VERY CALM ENVIRONMENT, AS LEAST AS FAR AS WE CAN TELL. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. GREAT. I'M GLAD WE HAVE THIS UP. WE'RE VERY FAMILIAR, I'M SURE, WITH THE SITE ITSELF AND, YOU KNOW, THE INADEQUACIES OF A VERY SMALL BUS LOOP ON THE FRONT CAN BARELY HOLD A FEW BUSES. YOU HAVE OVER 40 BUSSES THAT HAVE COME THERE EVERY DAY. WE WITNESSED THAT SEVERAL TIMES. IT WAS AN AMAZING SPECTACLE, FRANKLY. IT'S A BIT LIKE WATCHING THE SPANISH ARMADA KIND OF MOVE INTO PORT. [LAUGHTER] ABSOLUTELY. VERY WELL ORGANIZED, YOU KNOW, VERY WELL CONTROLLED AND YET AT THE SAME TIME ALARMING TO SEE SO MANY STUDENTS CONGREGATING OUT IN FRONT OF A SCHOOL WITH THE VULNERABILITIES THAT WE ALL KNOW EXIST TODAY. AND ALSO WATCHING KIDS RUNNING ACROSS THE ROAD, PARENTS DROPPING OFF ON THE OTHER SIDE, KIDS RUNNING ACROSS, SOMETHING YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS, AND THESE THINGS HAVE TO BE CORRECTED. THE SITE IS VERY SMALL FOR A MIDDLE SCHOOL. IT'S 11.3 ACRES. NORMALLY WE THINK IN TERMS OF 20 ACRES BEING ACTUALLY RATHER ON THE SMALL SIDE. WE'D MUCH PREFER TO HAVE 30 ACRES FOR A MIDDLE SCHOOL OF THIS KIND OF SIZE. NO SEPARATION OF CARS AND BUSSES. THEY ALL MIX TOGETHER. IT CREATES A LOT OF CONFUSION ON SITE. THERE IS A COMMUNITY DESIRE TO RETAIN THE EXISTING FACILITIES SO THAT IF IT WERE REPLACED ON SITE, YOU WOULD HAVE LITERALLY NO ROOM ONCE YOU HAD PARKING, BUS LOOP, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT. THE PLAY FIELDS WILL SHRINK TO ALMOST NOTHING. RENOVATION WOULD NOT SOLVE THE BASIC TRAFFIC PROBLEMS THAT YOU HAVE. WE DID REQUEST A WAIVER FROM THE STATE OF MARYLAND FOR THE RENOVATION, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS. TYPICALLY IN A FEASIBILITY STUDY , THEY REQUIRE YOU TO LOOK AT RENOVATION AS AN OPTION, BUT THEY DO PROVIDE A WAIVER OPPORTUNITY IF YOU CAN PROVIDE EVIDENCE THAT SAYS IF THERE'S SIMPLY THERE'S NO WAY THAT WE CAN RENOVATE THIS FACILITY AND MAKE SENSE. AND THEY ACCEPTED THAT. AND I THINK YOU COULD NOT CHANGE THE POSITION OF THE SCHOOL RELATIVE TO THE ROAD, THE ENTRANCE CONDITIONS, ALL THAT WOULD REMAIN. AND THEN THE PLAYING FIELDS ITSELF, LIKE I SAID, WOULD BE REDUCED DRAMATICALLY, INADEQUATE FOR A MIDDLE SCHOOL. AND SO WITH THAT IN POINTS, VERY MUCH TO THE NEED TO RELOCATE. GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THE ENROLLMENT PROJECTIONS INDICATE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE GRADUAL GROWTH, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING COUNTYWIDE, BETWEEN NOW AND 2034. AND WITH A STATE READY CAPACITY OF ABOUT 945, IT WILL BE AT FULL CAPACITY IN ABOUT TEN YEARS, WHICH IS NOT NECESSARILY A CRISIS SITUATION IN THE ABSTRACT, BUT IT BECOMES A DIFFICULT SITUATION WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH THE KINDS OF CIRCULATION, INTERNAL CIRCULATION SYSTEM, THE BUS LOADING SITUATION AND SO FORTH AT A SCHOOL LIKE LOCKERMAN. AND SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO DEBBIE, AND SHE'S GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE EDUCATIONAL FACILITY SPECIFICATION PROCESS ITSELF. THANK YOU DAVID. OKAY SO FIRST WE'LL JUST WANT TO GO OVER A LITTLE BIT WHAT AN EDUCATIONAL SPECIFICATION IS. I THINK IS MR. MENGEL SHOWED IT IS A RATHER LENGTHY DOCUMENT. WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME, IT'S A LOT OF DETAIL. AND WHAT IT DOES, IT DOES GO THROUGH THE EDUCATIONAL PHILOSOPHY OF THE SCHOOL. IT ESTABLISHES THE REQUIRED INSTRUCTIONAL AND SUPPORT SPACES, ADMINISTRATIVE SPACES FOR THE SCHOOL AND EVEN JUST THE OPERATIONAL SPACES LIKE BUILDING SUPPORT, CAFETERIA, ANYTHING THAT'S NEEDED TO SUPPORT THE INSTRUCTIONAL PROGRAM. IT IS AN AGREEMENT AMONG THE STAKEHOLDERS. SO AS MR. [01:15:01] MENGEL SHARED, THERE WAS A WIDE RANGE OF STAKEHOLDERS THAT WERE PART OF THE COMMITTEE TO HELP DEVELOP THE DOCUMENT. AND IT ALSO THEN LATER IS A CHECK ON, ON WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE ARCHITECT. SO WE WILL ALWAYS GO BACK AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE REFERRING BACK TO THE SPACE SUMMARY AND THE ASPECT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THE SPACES. IT STARTS ESTABLISHING THE COSTS AND BUDGETS. SO RIGHT AT THE VERY BEGINNING, WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE STAYING WITHIN STATE REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF SQUARE FOOTAGE , INITIAL PROJECT COSTS, WHAT ARE THE LIFE CYCLES AND FUNDING AND IT IS A REQUIREMENT FOR STATE FUNDING. SO ONCE THIS GETS APPROVED, WE'LL BE WORKING WITH MR. MENGEL TO SEND IT OFF TO MSDE FOR APPROVAL, SO THIS WILL BE THE VERY FIRST STEP FOR STATE FUNDING. SO WE MENGEL [LAUGHTER]. AND THEN IT SERVES AS INSTRUCTIONS, WE OFTEN CALL IT A RECIPE, TO THE ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING TEAM TALKING ABOUT THE NUMBERS AND TYPES OF SPACES, ADJACENCY SITE, FEATURES, UNIQUE FEATURES, AND IT TALKS ABOUT THE EDUCATIONAL ADEQUACY. SO WHAT I'LL DO NOW IS REALLY GET INTO THE DETAILS OF THE EDUCATIONAL SPECIFICATION FOR LOCKERMAN AND WHAT THE INDIVIDUAL PIECES ARE FOR THE DOCUMENT, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE KEY OUTCOMES. SO THE FRONT END OF THE DOCUMENT IS WHAT WE CALL THE NARRATIVE PIECE, AND WHAT YOU HAVE IS AN INTRODUCTION. AND WHAT I HAVE IS JUST AGAIN, BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT 175 PAGES, YOU COULD BE HERE ALL DAY READING IT. IT'S SORT OF LIKE I THINK WHAT THE STATE, THE SENATE JUST DID, IF WE WANTED TO READ IT, WORD FOR WORD. YOU DO THIS FOR MANY, MANY HOURS AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT TODAY. SO I HAVE JUST A SMALL PAGE TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. BUT THERE'S AN INTRODUCTION THAT TALKS ABOUT THE PURPOSE, THE HISTORY, THE SCOPE AND ANY UNIQUE FEATURES ABOUT LOCKERMAN MIDDLE SCHOOL. THEN WE TALK ABOUT PLANNING CONSIDERATIONS. SO WE HAVE THE VISION, THERE'S CODES AND GUIDELINES, SO THERE'S FEDERAL GUIDELINES, STATE GUIDELINES. THERE COULD BE SOME COUNTY GUIDELINES THAT WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT THE ARCHITECT AND ENGINEERS ARE AWARE OF. WE TALK ABOUT EQUITY ACCESSIBILITY. SOME OF THESE ARE ALIGNED ADJACENCIES THAT WE MIGHT BE LOOKING FOR. THE BUILDING RIGHT NOW IS A HODGEPODGE, SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN AREAS LIKE WHERE YOU WANT YOUR BUSES TO BE, WHERE YOU WANT THE PARKING TO BE, WHERE THE CAFETERIA MAY WANT TO BE, THE GYMNASIUM, THINGS LIKE THAT. SAFETY, SECURITY, THINGS LIKE THAT. THERE'S A SECTION FOR FURNITURE FUNCTION. EDUCATIONAL TECHNOLOGY THE SITE DESIGN REQUIREMENTS. SO DR. LEVER TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE INADEQUACIES OF THE SITE AND IN ENVIRONMENTAL PERFORMANCES. SO BOTH ON THE OUTSIDE AND THE INSIDE. AND THE STATE HAS SOME REAL STRONG REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF WHAT WE NEED IN TERMS OF ENVIRONMENTAL PERFORMANCES. WE MIGHT BE STRIVING FOR NET ZERO, WE'RE GOING TO SEE IF WE CAN DO THAT. BUT IN TERMS OF ENVIRONMENTAL PERFORMANCE, GREEN TECHNOLOGIES, WE'RE GOING TO BE STRIVING FOR A VERY GREEN, HEALTHY BUILDING. THE NEXT PART OF THE DOCUMENT TALKS ABOUT THE SPACE SUMMARY AND WHAT THIS IS, IS REALLY A TABLE THAT OUTLINES EVERY SINGLE SPACE THAT WILL BE IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOL. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF JUST THE VERY BEGINNING OF IT THAT TALKS ABOUT THE CORE ACADEMIC SPACES. AND SO IT HAS THE NUMBER OF SPACES FOR EACH TYPE, THE NET SQUARE FOOTAGE, AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO IDENTIFY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NET SQUARE FOOTAGE, WHICH IS THE USUAL PROGRAM SPACE COMPARED TO GROW SQUARE FOOTAGE. AND THAT'S THE NET SQUARE FOOTAGE PLUS CIRCULATION STRUCTURAL ELEMENTS LIKE THE HVAC, CODE-REQUIRED TOILETS. WE DON'T IDENTIFY ALL OF THE TOILETS IN HERE, LIKE GROUP TOILETS. WE DON'T IDENTIFY STAIRWELLS, ANYTHING THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF WHAT'S NEEDED FOR THE PROGRAM. SO THE GROSS SQUARE FOOTAGE ADDS AN ADDITIONAL 40% TO 50% OF THE BUILDING, DEPENDING ON HOW EFFICIENT THE BUILDING WILL BE. SO THE SPACE SUMMARY IDENTIFIES THE QUANTITY, THE NET SQUARE FOOTAGE, THE TOTAL, AND IN THE ACTUAL SPACE SUMMARY. THE STATE ALSO WANTS US TO CALCULATE WHAT THE STATE RATED CAPACITY IS, BUT DIDN'T WANT TO SHOW THAT HERE BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN TOO SMALL. SO THIS IN ITSELF IS ABOUT 3 OR 4 PAGES LONG, BECAUSE THERE'S MANY, MANY SPACES THAT PUT TOGETHER A MIDDLE SCHOOL BETWEEN THE CLASSROOMS, THE SUPPORT ROOMS, THE LABORATORIES, THE UNIFIED ARTS PROGRAMS. AND THEN ALL OF THE BUILDING SUPPORTS THE OPERATIONAL FEASIBILITY. [01:20:05] AND THEN THE LAST PART, WHICH IS REALLY THE BULK OF THE SPEC, ARE THE INDIVIDUAL ROOM DESCRIPTION SHEETS. AND SO FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE SPACES, THERE'S AN INDIVIDUAL SHEET, SOMETIMES MORE THAN ONE PAGE, THAT DESCRIBES EACH OF THE NEEDS OF EACH SPACE. AND IT GETS INTO THE ADJACENCIES AND LOCATIONS AND THEN THE QUALITY SPACE. AND I WILL SHOW YOU AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT ONE OF THOSE SHEETS LOOKS LIKE. SO FOR A LARGE GROUP INSTRUCTIONAL ROOM, AND THAT'S WHERE PERHAPS ONE OF THE MATH INSTRUCTIONAL COACHES WILL BE. WE IDENTIFY WHO THE USERS ARE, THE SPATIAL RELATIONSHIPS WHERE YOU WANT THEM TO BE, WHERE THAT ROOM SHOULD BE LOCATED NEXT TO, THE GOALS AND ACTIVITIES THAT WOULD BE OCCURRING IN THAT SPACE, ANY SPECIAL DESIGN CONSIDERATIONS, THE BUILT-IN FIXTURES. BUILT-IN FIXTURES ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE ATTACHED TO THE WALL AND DON'T MOVE AROUND. AND THEN THE FURNITURE AND EQUIPMENT ARE THE PIECES THAT DO MOVE AROUND. SO FOR EVERY ONE OF THOSE SPACES IN THE SPACE SUMMARY, THERE'S A PIECE THAT'S RELATED TO THAT SPACE, AND THAT'S WHY IT'S SO LONG. WE TRY TO MAKE IT NICE AND CLEAN. IN THE GOOGLE SHEET, ACTUALLY, YOU CAN CHECK THIS OFF, SO FOR THE ARCHITECT, IT'S A NICE, USER FRIENDLY SHEET SO THEY CAN MAKE SURE THEY DON'T MISS ANYTHING. BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION AND A LOT OF DETAIL THAT GOES INTO DESIGNING AND BUILDING THESE DAYS. IF YOU LOOK AT AN OLD BUILDING BUILT IN THE 1970S, THE NUMBER OF SHEETS FOR ARCHITECTS PROBABLY IS 20 MAYBE. AND NOW WHEN YOU GET A BUILDING OF THIS SIZE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE LOADS OF DOCUMENTS TO DESIGN THE BUILDINGS, AND YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE GETTING AT THIS LEVEL, THE DETAIL SHEET FOR THE SCHOOL. MR. MENDEL DID ADDRESS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROCESS IN TERMS OF WHO WAS ON THE COMMITTEE. HE DID HAVE SIX MEETINGS WITH THE COMMITTEE. AND DURING THOSE MEETINGS WE HOPE THAT IT GAVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WHAT THEIR HOPES AND CONCERNS WERE FOR THE MIDDLE SCHOOL. THAT WAS VERY ENLIGHTENING. AND IT REALLY DID START TO HELP DEVELOP WHAT THE VISION FOR THE NEW SCHOOL WOULD BE. WE REVIEWED WHAT THE PROGRAMS WERE FOR LOCKERMAN MIDDLE SCHOOL AND THE SCHOOL ORGANIZATION FOR THE SCORES. WE EXPLORED SOME NEW IDEAS. DAVID AND I WORK WITH A LOT OF OTHER JURISDICTIONS, WE WERE ABLE TO START DISCUSSING SOME NEW IDEAS. FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE THE LIBRARY MEDIA CENTER AND OPEN CONCEPT MEDIA CENTER, NEW PHYSICAL EDUCATION SPACES, THEY ONLY HAVE ONE TV SPACE, SO THE IDEA OF ADDITIONAL TV SPACES, OF A GYM FOR FUNCTIONAL AND THEIR OUTDOOR PURSUITS SPACE, EVEN JUST TENNIS COURTS TO SUPPORT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL PROGRAM, WHICH THEY DON'T HAVE RIGHT NOW. LOCKERS WHERE? LOCKERS IN THE HALLWAYS. THEY SHOULD HAVE LOCKER BAYS. AND JUST HOW THE MIDDLE SCHOOL IS ORGANIZED, TEAMS HAVING THE SCIENCE LABS. I'LL GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. AND THEN THEY PROVIDED INPUT ON THE ACTUAL GAP IN TERMS OF THE SPACE SUMMARY, PROVIDING INPUT IN TERMS OF THE SPACES, THE NUMBER OF SPACES, AND REALLY WHAT WOULD WORK FOR THEM. SHOULD THEY HAVE COLLABORATIVE OPEN SPACES VERSUS SMALL ROOMS? SO WE HAD SOME VERY ROBUST DISCUSSIONS IN TERMS OF WHAT ARE THE NEEDS. WE WOULD GIVE THEM IDEAS, BUT REALLY, WHAT SUPPORTS LOCK IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND THE CAROLINE COUNTY BUSINESS. SO SOME OF THE KEY OUTCOMES IN TERMS, I THINK WE ALL KNOW THIS, THE CURRENT SITE IS NOT ADEQUATE. SO THAT REALLY IS LEADING US TO A NEW SITE THAT WE NEED TO SEPARATE THE BUSES FROM THE CARS TO ENSURE SAFE ACCESS. WE WANT TO FACILITATE COMMUNITY USE BY ZONING THE BUILDING. SO THAT'S REALLY VERY IMPORTANT, HAVING A CAFETERIA, A GYMNASIUM, A LIBRARY. FOR AFTER HOURS USE, HAVING THE PARKING AVAILABLE NEARBY SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO PARK ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND HAVE TO WALK ALL THE WAY AROUND. SIMPLE THINGS LIKE THAT REALLY HELP FACILITATE COMMUNITY USE, PROVIDING THE TENNIS COURTS. SO THAT WAS REALLY RECEIVED WELL BY THE STAFF AND THE ADMINISTRATION. THEY SAW A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT AND RECESS AREA FOR THE STUDENTS OUTSIDE THE CAFETERIA. THAT WAS SOMETHING THEY REALLY WANT TO SEE AT THE SCHOOL TO SUPPORT THE PHYSICAL NEEDS, THE WELLNESS NEEDS OF THE STUDENTS. THEN FOR THE BUILDINGS OR THE INSIDE OF THE BUILDINGS, WE WANT TO ORGANIZE THE SCHOOL BY GRADE TEAM LEVEL. THEY DO LOTS OF WHAT WE CALL SUPER TEAMS. SO REALLY BY SIXTH, SEVENTH AND EIGHTH GRADE AND THEN MAKE SURE THAT SCIENCE LABS AND SUPPORT ROOMS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE GRADE TEAM LEVELS. PROVIDING SMALL GROUP INSTRUCTIONAL ROOMS RATHER THAN COLLABORATIVE SPACES. LOCATE ALL THE UNIFIED ARTS CLASSES IN ONE AREA, START THINKING ABOUT THEM AS A TEAM, BECAUSE OFTEN THAT STAFF SORT OF DOESN'T HAVE THAT [01:25:01] CONCEPT OF A STAFF TEAM. SO IT'S REALLY HELPED FOSTER PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT FOR THOSE STAFF. THE CONCEPT OF LOCKER BAYS FOR ALL STUDENTS THAT REALLY HELPS TO PROVIDE SUPERVISION AND REALLY HELPS WITH BEHAVIOR AND REDUCES BEHAVIOR THAT'S WHAT WE'VE FOUND IN OTHER MIDDLE SCHOOLS. TO PROVIDE SUFFICIENT PHYSICAL EDUCATION SPACES SPACES TO SUPPORT NOT ONLY THE PHYSICAL WELLBEING, BUT TO SUPPORT THE CURRICULUM. TO PROVIDE DISPLAY CASES, TO HONOR THE HISTORY OF THE SCHOOL, AND TO PROVIDE TWO AREAS OF SCIENCE LABS. WE TALKED ABOUT HOW THE SCHOOL RIGHT NOW DOESN'T HAVE SCIENCE LABS, SO WE REALLY TALKED ABOUT WHAT SHOULD A SCIENCE LAB LOOK LIKE AND WHAT SHOULD THE DESIGN DO. WE SETTLED ON TWO AREAS WE PLANNED THE INSTRUCTIONAL AREA WHERE MAINTENANCE WAS, AS THE LAB DESIRED TO SUPPORT THE BOTH SUPERVISION AND THE INSTRUCTIONAL AREA, AND THEN SCHOOL-BASED HEALTH CENTER TO SUPPORT THE WELLNESS OF THE STUDENTS. AND THAT WILL BE FORWARD AS A COOPERATIVE NEW SPACE, WHICH IS ANOTHER FUNDING MECHANISM BY THE STATE. AND HERE'S A NEW OUTCOME. SO BEAR WITH ME ON THIS ONE, WHICH IS ABOUT CAPACITY. SO THE STATE RATE HAS A STATE RATED CAPACITY WHERE THEY CALCULATE CAPACITY FOR ALL THE SCHOOLS IN THE STATE WHERE THE GRADE 6 - 12 CLASSROOMS ARE RATED AT 25 : 1. TECHNOLOGY EDUCATION IS 20 : 1 AND THE SPECIAL EDUCATION IS 10:1. AND THEN THE STATE RECOGNIZES THAT THE SECONDARY SCHOOLS REQUIRE FLEXIBILITY SO THOSE TOTALS ARE MULTIPLIED BY 85%. CHALLENGES THAT AT LOCKERMAN TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE STUDENTS, BOTH ACADEMIC AND THE BEHAVIORAL NEEDS THE AVERAGE CLASS SIZE IS 17:01, WHICH IS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN WHAT THE STATE IS RATED. BASED ON THE PROJECTED ENROLLMENT, WHICH IS 893 IF WE USE THE STATE RATE CAPACITY, WE WOULD NOT HAVE ENOUGH CLASSROOMS TO MEET THE PROJECTED ENROLLMENT. SO IF WE LOOK AT THE 17 : 1 WITH 893 STUDENTS, WE WOULD NEED 54 CLASSROOMS I HOPE THAT MAKES SENSE. SO I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU THE NEXT TABLE I HOPE THAT MAKES A LITTLE MORE SENSE. WE NEED 54 CLASSROOMS AT 17 : 1. LOOK AT TO THE RIGHT AT THE STATE RATE OF CAPACITY CALCULATION. IF WE WERE TO SAY 50 CLASSROOMS AT THE STATE RATE OF CAPACITY, 2 OF THEM ARE OUR TECHNOLOGY EDUCATION CLASSROOMS AND 2 OF SPECIAL EDUCATION CALCULATED BY THE STATE. YOU WOULD HAVE A STATE RATE CAPACITY OF 1100 STUDENTS, WHICH IS SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER THAN THE PROJECTED ENROLLMENT. WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING AND OTHER LEAS IN THE STATE, OTHER LEAS DO CALCULATE WHAT WE CALL A PROGRAM CAPACITY, WHICH REFLECTS THE STAFFING AND PROGRAM THAT IS OCCURRING AT THE SCHOOL. IF WE USE A 20 : 1 RATIO, THAT REALLY REFLECTS THAT 17 : 1 AFTER THE 85%, IF YOU DO THE 50, THE SAME NUMBER OF CLASSROOMS, WHICH ARE THE 50 CLASSROOMS AND SPECIALIZED LABS, THE 2 TECHNOLOGY EDUCATION AND THE 2 SPECIAL ED, WHICH ARE STILL THE SAME NUMBER OF CLASSROOMS, YOU GET A CAPACITY OF 904. SO BY REDUCING THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS PER CLASSROOM, IT REFLECTS THE STAFFING AND STUDENT NEEDS OF CCPS. IT DOES INCREASE THE GROSS SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THE ENTIRE BUILDING. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT AND IT'S GOING IT MAY IMPACT THE STATE FUNDING REQUEST . SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH MR. MENGEL TO START DEVELOPING DATA TO HELP SUPPORT THAT REQUEST WITH THE STATE. IF THAT MAKES SENSE [LAUGHTER]. SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO DR. LEVER, AND I ACTUALLY, I'D LIKE TO JUST PICK UP ON SOMETHING THAT DEBBIE SAID. THERE IS CLEARLY A DISCREPANCY BETWEEN WHAT THE STATE WILL FUND AND HOW IT MEASURES THE CAPACITY OF THE SCHOOL AND WHAT THE ACTUAL NEEDS ARE. AND I'VE DONE SOME CALCULATIONS THE STATE WILL FUND, WE THINK ABOUT 129,300FT². ADD TO THAT 3000FT² FOR THE SCHOOL-BASED HEALTH CENTER TO COME TO ABOUT 132,300FT². BY ANY CALCULATION WE'RE LOOKING AT, WE THINK WE NEED ABOUT 140,000FT². [01:30:05] AND THAT'S LOOKING AT THE ED SPEC, WHICH IS BASED ON THE ACTUAL NEEDS. THERE'S A DELTA THERE AS YOU CAN SEE IT'S QUITE LARGE 11,000FT² 12,000FT². THAT REPRESENTS A FUNDING GAP AS WELL AS A SPATIAL GAP. AND THIS WILL BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION THAT WE'LL BE HAVING WITH THE STATE TO NARROW THE GAP AND TO ACHIEVE AS MUCH FUNDING AS POSSIBLE. ANOTHER POINT I DO WANT TO MAKE IS I HAVE OFTEN BEEN ASKED, WHY CAN'T WE JUST HAVE ONE STANDARD ASPECT AND ONE STANDARD DESIGN FOR THE ENTIRE STATE? ONE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL DESIGN MODIFIED IN TERMS OF SIZE MIDDLE SCHOOL, HIGH SCHOOL. AND I'VE ALWAYS ANSWERED TO SAY WE CAN'T DO THAT. AND I THINK WHAT MS. SZYFER HAS JUST SAID KIND OF ILLUSTRATES THAT HOW CLOSELY WE WORKED WITH THE EDUCATIONAL SPECIFICATION COMMITTEE, AND IT WAS VERY ROBUST, THE WORK THAT SHE USED. THESE WERE REAL DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE. THIS WAS NOT JUST US FEEDING THEM INFORMATION AND GETTING KIND OF A RUBBER STAMP OF APPROVAL. WE REALLY HAD A BACK AND FORTH DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT'S BEST CRITICAL ISSUE, FOR INSTANCE TEAM TEACHING IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOL ALSO SUGGESTS THAT WE HAVE A COLLABORATION SPACE WHICH CAN BE AS SMALL AS, LET'S SAY, 600FT², AS LARGE AS 1500 FT² , DEPENDING ON WHAT THE NEEDS ARE. HOW WILL THAT BE USED IN THE DISCUSSIONS? IT BECAME VERY CLEAR THAT WITH A KIND OF AN ENVELOPE OF SQUARE FOOTAGE TRANSLATES TO AN ENVELOPE OF COST OF COURSE. WE HAVE TO MAKE TRADEOFFS AND WHAT WAS CLEARLY EMERGED WAS THERE WAS A PREFERENCE TO HAVE MORE SMALL INSTRUCTIONAL SPACES FOR PULLOUT FOR ONE ON ONE OR SMALL GROUP INSTRUCTION, AS OPPOSED TO THESE LARGER COLLABORATION SPACES. INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT DECISION WHICH WILL AFFECT THE DESIGN ONCE THE ARCHITECTURAL ENGINEERING TEAM IS ENGAGED. THEY HAVE TO WORK WITH THAT AS A DECISION POINT TO BEGIN WITH. SO YOU CAN SEE HOW WE ALWAYS ARE TAILORING THE ASPECT AND THEN THE DESIGN TO A SPECIFIC COMMUNITY OR SPECIFIC COMMUNITY'S NEEDS. I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE PROCESS. JUST TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW. WITH THE EDUCATIONAL SPECIFICATION THE FIRST STEP, AS DEBBIE SAID, THE FEASIBILITY STUDY . THIS SHOWS THEM HAVING YEAR ONE AND YEAR ONE WHICH IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING IT'S GOOD THAT THEY'RE HAPPENING TOGETHER. THE EDUCATIONAL SPECIFICATION PRECEDES THE FEASIBILITY STUDY BY A CERTAIN AMOUNT. BECAUSE TO DO A FEASIBILITY STUDY INTELLIGENTLY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT SPACE SOMEWHERE. YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHAT THE STANDARD IS YOU'RE WORKING TO THAT DETERMINES WHETHER THE SITE WILL WORK, HOW THE BUILDING WILL BE CONFIGURED, HOW IT WILL SIT ON THE SITE. WE MOVE FROM THAT TO MORE SPECIFIC PROJECT DEFINITION OF THE ACTUAL SQUARE FOOTAGE. THE ASPECT GIVES A GREAT DEAL OF DEFINITION. WITH THAT, WE'LL BE REQUESTING PLANNING APPROVAL FROM THE STATE THAT WILL BE THIS OCTOBER IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. MOVED FROM THAT TO DESIGN AND THEN INTO CONSTRUCTION AND THEN OCCUPANCY. IT'S A VERY LONG PROCESS. WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS, OPENING IN AUGUST OF 2029 IF ALL GOES WELL. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND THIS IS SOMEWHAT THE SAME THING, BUT BREAKS IT DOWN INTO WHAT THE NEXT YEAR WILL HOLD FOR YOU. SUMMER OF 2025 WE HAVE THE ASPECTS, YOU'LL HAVE THE FEASIBILITY STUDY . YOU'LL BE ASKED TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT THE SITES. WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO SITES THE PROS AND CONS, AND YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT LATER ON TODAY. THE DECISION ALSO ON THE SCOPE AND THE SCHEDULE, BUT IT'LL BE THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. THOSE WILL BE THE DETAILS THAT WILL BE IN THE CIP, WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED TO YOU, I BELIEVE, AT THE SEPTEMBER MEETING. AND THEN THAT'LL GO TO THE STATE WITH A REQUEST FOR PLANNING APPROVAL FOR THE TYPICAL PROCESSES FOR A SCHOOL THAT SIZE, PLANNING APPROVAL WOULD OCCUR IN ONE YEAR. FUNDING REQUESTS WOULD OCCUR IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR OR SOMETIMES, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE SCHOOL YEARS LATER. IN THIS CASE, I THINK IT'LL BE ONE YEAR, AND THEN WITH PLANNING APPROVAL, YOU'LL BE IN A POSITION WHERE YOU WILL BE ASSURED THAT THE STATE WILL FUND THE PROJECT. ALTHOUGH WHEN THEY FUND AND HOW MUCH THEY FUND DEPENDS ON FACTORS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL AND IN FACT ARE UNKNOWN BECAUSE THEY DEPEND ON THE LARGER ECONOMY OF HOW MUCH REVENUE IS AVAILABLE TO THE STATE. BUT IF ALL GOES WELL, YOU'LL BE IN A POSITION TO ENGAGE WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL ENGINEERING TEAM IN THE SPRING OF 2026 AND BEGIN THE WORK. AND THEN IT MOVES FORWARD FROM THERE AND ESTABLISHES THE CREDIBILITY OF THE PROJECT SO THAT FUNDING CAN BE APPROVED FOR CONSTRUCTION. WE'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. QUESTIONS? YEAH [01:35:02] WAS IT JUST THE WHERE THE SCHOOL IS, OR WAS IT THE PARKS THAT WERE NEAR THERE AND THE STREET AND ALL THAT? IT ACTUALLY WAS A GOOGLE EARTH EXERCISE BECAUSE THE INFORMATION WHICH IS IN THE FACILITY INVENTORY DATABASE, WHICH IS A DATABASE OF STATE CONTAINS ISN'T QUITE RIGHT. WE RECOGNIZE THAT JUST LOOKING AT IT. AND SO IT WAS REALLY USING GOOGLE EARTH AS A, YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF BOUNDARY FUNCTION THAT IT HAS, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE OUTLINE. SO IT IS A PLUS OR MINUS, BUT I THINK IT'S FAIRLY CLOSE. BUT WHAT IT DOES INDICATE IS THAT IS IT'S VASTLY TOO SMALL FOR A MIDDLE SCHOOL OF 900 STUDENTS, WE HAVE NOT HAD A SURVEY. IT'S THE BOUNDARIES, YOU KNOW, SO THE SIDEWALKS WOULD BE CONSIDERED TO BE PUBLIC PROPERTY OUTSIDE BELONG TO THE TOWN. SO IT'S WITHIN THE SIDEWALKS. IT'S GOING DOWN TO THE STREAM, WHICH IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OVER TO BASICALLY THE FENCE ON THE EASTERN SIDE. ASSUMING THAT THE FENCE IS ACTUALLY ON THE PROPERTY LINE, WHICH IS NOT ALWAYS THE CASE, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S THE BEST EVIDENCE WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. THE EXPENSE OF DOING A SURVEY, GIVEN THE FACT THAT THE RECOMMENDATION IS NOT TO DO A RENOVATION, IT'S NOT WORTH DOING A SURVEY. IT'S SMALL I JUST WAS WONDERING IF BASICALLY IF THE STREETS AND IF THAT WAS ALSO INCLUDED IN THE MEASUREMENT. NO, IT'S THE NET AREA JUST INSIDE THE PROPERTY LINE AS FAR AS WE CAN TOUCH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO AT THIS TIME WE ARE SEEKING FOR APPROVAL FOR THE EDUCATIONAL SPECIFICATION S STUDY. MOTION FROM THE BOARD? I SECOND . DID YOU SAY SECOND? YES. OKAY IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED TO ACCEPT THE LOCKERMAN MIDDLE SCHOOL REPLACEMENT FACILITY EDUCATIONAL SPECIFICATIONS . ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? SO CARRIED WE THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YES WHICH IS THE MUCH ANTICIPATED FEASIBILITY STUDY . THE RECOMMENDATION IS FOR THE CAROLINE COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION TO CONSIDER THE FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR THE NEW MIDDLE SCHOOL BUILD, AS PRESENTED BY TCA ARCHITECTS. THIS FEASIBILITY STUDY DIRECTLY FOLLOWED THE EDUCATIONAL SPECIFICATION STUDY. A DETAILED SPACE SUMMARY WAS DEVELOPED FROM THE ED. SPECS. COMMITTEE. TCA ARCHITECTS USED THAT INFORMATION TO DEVELOP AND DESIGN BASIC DRAWINGS AND RENDITIONS OF WHAT A NEW BUILDING WOULD POSSIBLY LOOK LIKE. TWO OPEN COMMUNITY MEETINGS WERE HELD ONE IN MAY, ONE IN JUNE WHERE A FEASIBILITY TEAM PRESENTED TO AND FIELDED WELL THOUGHT OUT QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS FROM THE PUBLIC. THE FEASIBILITY STUDY TEAM CONSISTED OF REPRESENTATIVES FROM TCA ARCHITECTS, EDUCATION FACILITIES PLANNING LLC, DMS AND ASSOCIATES LLC, ASSOCIATES INCORPORATED, AND CCPS ADMINISTRATION SO AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO TURN THIS OVER TO. THANK YOU. MISS ROBYN TOTH. SHE IS THE PRINCIPAL OF TCA ARCHITECTS, AND SHE HAS A LIKE I SAY, A WONDERFUL PRESENTATION ON THE FEASIBILITY. OKAY THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME ARE YOU ABLE TO PINCH IT IN? I'M WORRIED THERE'S SOME THINGS ON THE EDGES THAT WE MIGHT MISS OUT. THANK YOU THAT'S WONDERFUL SO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO SHARE OUR FINDINGS OVER THE LAST SIX WEEKS. IT'S BEEN INCREDIBLY BUSY, BUT ALSO VERY ENLIGHTENING AND IT HAS BEEN REALLY GREAT GETTING TO KNOW EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY. FOR LOCKERMAN, THERE'S A LOT OF PASSION AND A LOT OF HISTORY THAT IS VERY EXCITING. WHEN YOU TALK TO THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AFTER OUR MEETINGS, WE'VE REALLY ENJOYED AND CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT ALL GETS UNCOVERED AND OUR UNDERSTANDING IT'S HIDDEN IN PLACES [LAUGHTER]. IT COULD ALMOST BE A TV SHOW. ANYWAYS, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR HAVING US HERE. AS FAR AS THE PROJECT INFORMATION, YOUR CURRENT CAPACITY IS 835 WE'RE AIMING AT 904 AND AGAIN, AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, THE CORE CAPACITY IS THAT HIGHER NUMBER THAT THE STATE WILL BE LOOKING AT, [01:40:06] WHICH IS 1135. THE EXISTING BUILDING SITE IS 11.3 WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE A GRAPHIC THAT HELPS YOU UNDERSTAND ENTAILS. AND AS FAR AS THE EXISTING BUILDING, AS MENTIONED BEFORE, RIGHT NOW YOU'RE AT ABOUT 108,000FT², AND WITH THE ED SPEC, WE'D BE AIMING TO ADD ANOTHER 32,000FT² TO THE BUILDING. AND AGAIN, WE'LL SHOW YOU GRAPHICALLY WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. I APOLOGIZE, SOME THINGS ARE LOOKING A LITTLE DIFFERENT. I'M ASSUMING WITH THE FONTS [LAUGHTER] AND THE ALIGNMENTS, BUT HOPEFULLY YOU CAN READ IT ALL. HOW DO WE GET HERE? YOU KNOW, WE STARTED WITH RESEARCH AND ANALYSIS. WE WERE GIVEN DOCUMENTATION THAT CAROLINE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS HAD ON RECORD. KEVIN SHEARON WITH OUR CIVIL ENGINEER DID SOME RESEARCH AT THE COUNTY LEVEL. AND WE'VE BEEN REALLY TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WE'VE BEEN DOING THE ANALYSIS OF THE ED SPEC. SO WE DID A LOT OF HOMEWORK BEFORE WE EVER CAME TO THE COMMUNITY TO MEET WITH THEM AND A LOT OF ANALYSIS. THEN WE STARTED COMING UP WITH A CONCEPTUAL FLOOR PLAN. AND BEFORE WE GO FURTHER, I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR, AS I DID TO THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, THIS FEASIBILITY STUDY IS JUST TALKING ABOUT SITE. WE'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU A BUILDING YOU MIGHT LIKE IT YOU MIGHT NOT IT'S OKAY. IT'S JUST SHOWING YOU THAT THE PIECES IN THAT ED SPEC, WHEN PUT TOGETHER WITH ADJACENCIES, AS MUCH AS WE KNEW AT THE TIME, CAN FIT ON THESE SITES. AND WHAT COULD IT LOOK LIKE. ALL OF THE THINGS YOU SEE ON THE SITE, WHEN YOU GET INTO THE NEXT PHASE OF DESIGN, WILL BE REEVALUATED WITH ALL THE INFORMATION OF THE ED SPEC YOU JUST APPROVED, BECAUSE WE WEREN'T PRIVY TO ALL THE DETAILS THERE. AND IT CAN ALL BE BUT WE DID COME UP WITH A CONCEPTUAL FLOOR PLAN TO MAKE SURE WE HAD SOMETHING TO LOOK AT. AND IT DOES INCLUDE ALL THE SPACES IN THE ED SPEC. SO, YOU KNOW, REST ASSURED YOU CAN PUT THE BUILDING THAT WE SHOWED THERE IT CAN BE BUILT IT CAN WORK. BUT THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO SKIN THE CAT SO WE'LL JUST BE FOCUSING ON SITES. AGAIN, A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WE HAD TWO REALLY WONDERFUL MEETINGS WITH THE COMMUNITY. WE HAD GREAT TURNOUT BEEN TO A LOT OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS OVER THE YEARS. AND SOMETIMES YOU GET THERE AND YOU HAVE ONE FAMILY. AND SO WE WERE A LITTLE NERVOUS AND EVERYBODY SHOWED UP. IT WAS REALLY GREAT CONVERSATION. A LOT OF DIVERSITY IS OPPOSED TO PEOPLE WHO HAD BEEN WITH THE SCHOOL AND HAD A LOT OF HISTORY WITH THE SCHOOL FROM THE ALUMNI ASSOCIATION TO PARENTS TO TEACHERS, FOR TEACHERS, FOR THE NORTH CAROLINE SITE TO BE ABLE TO GIVE SOME PERSPECTIVE. IT WAS REALLY, REALLY GREAT TO HEAR FROM SO MANY DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND HEAR THEIR QUESTIONS THAT HOPEFULLY WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ANSWER, SO YOU GUYS WILL HAVE LESS QUESTIONS. JUST IN CASE PEOPLE WEREN'T COMFORTABLE SPEAKING UP DURING THE MEETING OR IF THEY THOUGHT ABOUT SOMETHING AFTERWARDS, WE HAD SURVEYS FOR THEM TO ANSWER. AND THOSE WERE PROVIDED IN THE REPORT FOR YOU TO PERUSE AT YOUR CONVENIENCE. BUT HERE WE REALLY SUMMARIZED THEM FOR THE PRESENTATION, BUT REALLY A LOT OF DATA AGAIN, VERY IMPRESSED. WE'VE DONE A COUPLE OTHER FEASIBILITY STUDIES AND PEOPLE REALLY SPOKE UP AND WANTED TO BE HEARD. AND IT REALLY HELPED US AS WE WERE PUTTING TOGETHER OUR INFORMATION. AND THEN FINALLY, WE DEVELOPED COST ESTIMATES FOR BOTH SITES, BECAUSE REALLY, AT SOME POINT IT DOES COME DOWN TO MAKING SURE YOU CAN AFFORD DEVELOPMENT ON EITHER SITE. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE CONSIDERING AS WE WERE PUTTING TOGETHER THESE SITE PLANS FOR YOU TO EVALUATE. OBVIOUSLY THE INCREASED CAPACITY NOT ONLY DO WE SHOW A BUILDING, YOU WILL SEE THERE'S DASHED LINES WHEN WE GET THERE TO SHOW THAT YOU COULD EXPAND. IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT MASTER PLAN SO THAT YOU'RE NOT GIVING UP SOMETHING THAT YOU HAD GOTTEN USED TO. WHEN IT COMES TIME, IF AN ADDITION AND MORE STUDENTS DO COME TO THIS AREA. SO WE'VE DEFINITELY MASTER PLAN FOR THAT. WE'VE PAID ATTENTION WE TALKED TO THE SCHOOL. WE ALSO WERE AT THE SCHOOL A FEW TIMES, SO ABLE TO SEE THE DROP OFF AND PICK UP SITUATION, WHICH IS AMAZING. AND THEY REALLY DO PREFER TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE HIGH ROAD SCHOOL PROGRAM HAVE THEIR OWN ROUTE. SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO, IN BOTH OF THESE SITES, SHOW HOW TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. PAYING ATTENTION TO THE SPECIAL ED CLASSROOMS, MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE A PLACE WHERE IT'S QUIET AND THEY CAN DO THE LEARNING THAT THEY NEED TO DO. MAKING SURE WE HAVE THE MULTI-LANGUAGE LEARNERS INCORPORATED IN THE PLAN. SEPARATE ENTRY AND EXIT FOR THE COMMUNITY BASED PROGRAM. SO YOU'LL SEE ON THE SITE PLANS THERE'S A LITTLE ARROW TEXT MIGHT BE SMALL, BUT THERE IS A SEPARATE AREA AWAY FROM THE MAIN ENTRANCE BUT NEAR THE MAIN ENTRANCE. [01:45:12] RELOCATABLE CLASSROOMS SPACE FOR THAT ON PAVED AREAS. WE'LL MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT. AND THEN FINALLY MAKING SURE ALL THE PROGRAM SPACES CAN BE FIT ON THE SITE. THE SCHEDULE HERE WE'VE GRAYED OUT EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE DONE THUS FAR. WE HAD OUR TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS, THE FEASIBILITY STUDY AND THE SPEC PROCESS WAS CONCLUDED. WE PUT TOGETHER THIS PRESENTATION, WHICH IS TODAY, AND THEN ALL THE OTHER ELEMENTS I THINK HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED, SO I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM. BUT AGAIN, IT JUST TELLS YOU HOW TO GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B. THE PROPOSED BUDGET I HAVE DR. LEVER HERE TO TELL YOU WHAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING AND KIND OF THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THIS NUMBER SO I'VE BEEN VOLUNTEERED TO DELIVER YOU THE BITTER PILL [LAUGHTER]. IT IS VERY TOUGH AND WE HAVE TO I THINK WE'RE CONSTANTLY THINKING ABOUT THE COST OF THE PROJECT, WHICH IS REALLY DETERMINED INITIALLY BY THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THE POSSIBLE FUNDING SOURCES AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO ACHIEVE THIS PROJECT. WE ARE LOOKING RIGHT NOW AT A PROJECT THAT'S ABOUT $104 MILLION ALL IN. THAT INCLUDES NOT ONLY THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE BUILDING SITE, IT ALSO INCLUDES THE FURNITURE, FURNISHINGS AND EQUIPMENT. IT INCLUDES THE ARCHITECTURAL ENGINEERING FEE, INCIDENTAL FEES THAT MIGHT BE ASSOCIATED WITH PLANNING AND ALSO CONTINGENCIES FOR ANY PROJECT. THERE'S ALWAYS THE NEED TO CARRY A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THE UNFORESEEN, AND IT'S THERE. NO MATTER WHAT KIND OF PROJECT YOU HAVE, THERE WILL BE UNFORESEENS. WE THINK THAT THE STATE FUNDING WILL BE ABOUT $80 MILLION, AND THAT WOULD MEAN THAT THE LOCAL FUNDING WILL BE ABOUT $23.8 MILLION, A VERY, VERY LARGE NUMBER. WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE KNOW WHAT A BIG LIFT THAT'S GOING TO BE FOR THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT. JUST TO CLARIFY WHAT THE ASSUMPTIONS ARE WE WORK OFF OF THE STATE'S $ / S F FIGURE THAT THEY'VE USED FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. WE EXPECT WITHIN ABOUT THE NEXT FOUR YEARS TO RECEIVE AN UPDATED FIGURE THAT WILL APPLY TO THE NEXT YEAR. AND THEN WE APPLIED CONSTRUCTION COST ESCALATION TO THE CURRENT FIGURE AT 4% / YEAR. EVERYBODY IS ASKING WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF TARIFFS, AND THE ANSWER IS WE DON'T KNOW. AND I TALKED TO CONSTRUCTION MANAGERS CONSTANTLY AND THEY DON'T KNOW. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING IN A VERY UNKNOWN ENVIRONMENT. 4% / YEAR HAS BEEN A VERY STANDARD FIGURE THAT WE'VE SEEN MUCH HIGHER THAN THAT IN THE COVID PERIOD. WE SAW HIGHER FIGURES IN THE GREAT RECESSION IN 2008. WE SAW THE FIGURE ACTUALLY DROPPED SIGNIFICANTLY AND THEN A REBOUND AFTERWARDS, WHERE IT HIT OVER 10% / YEAR FOR A PERIOD OF TIME AND THEN LEVELED OUT. IT DOES SEEM TO BE LEVELING OUT NOW. SO WE USED TO FIGURE BASED ON THIS ESCALATION COST CAROLINE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS IS CURRENTLY AT 94% STATE FUNDING OF ELIGIBLE ITEMS. I WANT TO EMPHASIZE ELIGIBLE BECAUSE THE STATE HAS ONLY CERTAIN CATEGORIES THAT THEY DO FUND THAT HAS EXPANDED IN RECENT YEARS. IT'S LARGER THAN IT WAS WHEN I WAS WITH THE STATE, BUT IT STILL DOESN'T COVER EVERYTHING. SO THERE WILL BE LOCAL EXPENSE, WHICH IS 100% LOCAL. ANY SQUARE FOOTAGE WHICH WAS BUILT BEYOND WHAT THE STATE CONSIDERS AS ITS GROSS AREA ALLOWANCE IS 100% ON THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT. AND THAT'S WHERE THAT 11,000FT² 12,000FT² THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER COMES INTO PLAY. NOW, WE DO EXPECT TO GET AN ADD ON TO THE 94%, A 5% BOOST CONCENTRATION OF POVERTY. THERE'S SOME OTHER ADD -ONS WE'LL CERTAINLY BE LOOKING AT FIRST, BUT I THINK THAT 99% IS WHAT WE CAN EXPECT. HOWEVER, THE STATE RECALCULATES EVERY TWO YEARS. I THINK THIS IS THE ONE OF THE YEARS TO RECALCULATE, IF I REMEMBER YES. SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT FIGURE THEY'RE GOING TO COME OUT WITH. AND THAT'LL BE ALSO FACTORED INTO THE RECALCULATION. WE ALSO DO ASSUME AND THIS IS VERY RELIABLE, THE STATE WILL FUND THE 3000FT² FOR THE SCHOOL BASED HEALTH CENTER. THEY DO THIS REGULARLY AROUND THE STATE. SO I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S IN QUESTION. AND WE'RE FACING THIS ACTUALLY EVERYWHERE. SO YOU'RE NOT UNIQUE IN SEEING THESE KINDS OF TERRIBLE FIGURES THAT EVERYBODY IS FACING THE SAME KIND OF THING. WE REDUCE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AS MUCH AS WE CAN, AND WE DO THAT BY LOOKING AT THE POSSIBLE DOUBLE USE OF SPACES. WE ALSO LOOK AT SOMETIMES MORE TRIPLE USE OF SPACES, IMPROVING THE EFFICIENCY. [01:50:06] I'VE MENTIONED BEFORE THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT NET SQUARE FOOTAGE, THAT'S FOR SPACE BETWEEN THE FOUR WALLS OF THIS ROOM. IT DOESN'T TAKE ACCOUNT OF THE THICKNESS OF THE WALLS. IT DOESN'T ACCOUNT STRUCTURE. IT DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR THE HVAC THAT HAS TO CHASE THE TOILETS AND SO FORTH. SO WE'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE THAT EFFICIENCY AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. WE LOOK AT ALTERNATIVE BUILDING SYSTEMS. THERE ARE A HUGE RANGE IN THE COST OF THE BUILDING SYSTEMS. THIS WILL HAPPEN ABOUT THE MIDPOINT OF DESIGN. WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVES, PARTICULARLY OF A MECHANICAL SYSTEM. IT'S ONE OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE ITEMS IN ANY SCHOOL, AND THE ALTERNATIVES ARE TO RANGE TREMENDOUSLY IN COSTS AND ALTERNATIVE FINISHES OF FLOORING IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT. THE DIFFERENCE OF COST BETWEEN, SAY, THE BEST FINISH, WHICH IS TERRAZZO, WHICH LASTS OF, SAY, FROM THE ROMAN EMPIRE TO TODAY, TERRAZZO FLOORS ARE IN THE SAME GOOD CONDITION THEY WERE WHEN THEY WERE INSTALLED AS OPPOSED TO SOME OF THE VINYL TILES THAT I'M SURE YOU'RE ALL VERY FAMILIAR WITH A HUGE RANGE OF COSTS. SO WE GO THROUGH EVERY KIND OF FINISH, EVERY SYSTEM TO LOOK AT THOSE ALTERNATIVES. WE LOOK AT HOW WE CAN INCREASE THE STATE FUNDING, JUSTIFY THE INCREASE OF COSTS. WE DID AN EXCELLENT EXERCISE AT GREENSBORO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. I'VE SEEN THAT MATERIAL PERIOD BY PERIOD, ROOM BY ROOM ANALYSIS TO SHOW HOW EVERY ROOM WILL BE USED TO JUSTIFY TO THE STATE WHY IT INCREASE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WILL BE NEEDED. WE WILL BE DOING THAT SAME KIND OF THING WE WANT TO JUSTIFY A HIGHER $ / S F FIGURE. I BELIEVE THE [INAUDIBLE] DOES HAVE THE LATITUDE TO DO THAT BASED ON LOCATION. YOU'RE IN A VERY UNFAVORABLE SITUATION HERE. CONTRACTORS ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE BRIDGE, WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF CAPACITY, ARE RELUCTANT TO CROSS THE BRIDGE. WE HEAR THIS AGAIN AND AGAIN. [INAUDIBLE] COUNTY SOMERSET COUNTY, THEY ALL STRUGGLE WITH THE SAME THING, TRYING TO GET GOOD BIDDING ON THE PROJECT. SO IT DOES RAISE FOR $/SF FIGURE. AND THEN WE'LL LOOK AT EVERY ADD -ON THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN GET FROM THE STATE PERCENTAGE ADD -ONS AND ALSO SQUARE FOOT ADD -ONS. WE'LL LOOK AT ALTERNATIVE FUNDING SOURCES FOR OUR GRANTS AVAILABLE FROM THE MARYLAND ENERGY ADMINISTRATION, FOR EXAMPLE. I JUST LEARNED TODAY THAT THERE'S A NEW ROUND OF FUNDING THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING OUT SOMETIME VERY, VERY SOON. AND THIS IS VERY UNUSUAL FOR A MAJOR PROJECT, A NEW RENOVATION PROJECT, BUT IT HAS BEEN DONE. MR. MENGEL'S PREDECESSOR, MR. NAGEL ACTUALLY DID THAT ON PRESTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AND HE BROKE NEW GROUND BY DOING THAT. IT WAS ONLY A SMALL PART OF THE TOTAL PROJECT, BUT NEVERTHELESS, IT WAS INNOVATIVE. AND WE WERE LOOKING INTO THAT. AND THEN BIDDING IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL. YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE EXCELLENT DESIGN DOCUMENTS, A MINIMUM OF GAPS THAT CAN BE CHALLENGED, THAT WILL LEAD TO CLAIMS AND CHANGE ORDERS LATER ON AND ALSO WILL BEATING THE BUSHES, GETTING THE RIGHT CONSTRUCTION MANAGER ON BOARD SO THAT THEY KNOW HOW TO REALLY GET GOOD COMPETITION IN TERMS OF BIDDING, COMPETITION IS ONE OF THE MOST CRITICAL FACTORS IN TERMS OF BEING ASSURED YOU'RE COMING ON BID DAY AT THE COST YOU NEED. SO THERE'S A WHOLE RANGE OF TECHNIQUES THAT WILL BE USED. WE'RE VERY CONSCIOUS OF THIS AS A PROBLEM IT'S AN ONGOING PROBLEM. THIS ISN'T SOMETHING WE WAIT UNTIL THE END OF THE DAY AND SAY, OH, WE'VE GOT A DESIGN NOW, WHAT DOES IT COST? WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS CONSTANTLY, EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. SO I'LL TURN IT BACK TO YOU ALL EVEN DURING THE DESIGN PHASE, AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S NOT UNIQUE TO CAROLINE COUNTY. YOU KNOW, THERE'S WAYS IN THE DESIGN DURING THE DESIGN TO HAVE ALTERNATIVES SO WE CAN DESIGN THINGS. AND IF ON MID DAY THEY'RE NOT AFFORDABLE, THEN THEY DON'T GET BID. AND SO THERE'S THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS THAT WE'RE ALL ABLE TO DO THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS TO HELP WITH THE HELP MEET THE BUDGET WHEN WE GET A DEFINITIVE NUMBER AREA FOR LOCKERMAN, WE CREATED THIS DIAGRAM. AND IN THAT SHADED AREA WHICH IS KIND OF ORANGISH, THAT'S WHERE ALL OF THE STUDENTS FOR LOCKERMAN ARE COMING FROM. AND THEN WE HAVE THREE STARS HERE. THE ORANGE STAR RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE. THAT DOES NOT WORK IN THE BLUE STAR, IS NORTH CAROLINE HIGH SCHOOL SITE. AND THE ORANGE STAR, WHICH IS SOUTH AND DOWN THE SHEET IS THE DOUBLE HILLS ROAD SITE. AND WE DID THIS JUST SO THAT EVERYONE COULD UNDERSTAND THAT ALL THREE ARE RELATIVELY SIMILAR IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE CATCHMENT AREA AS A WHOLE. WE ALL KNOW THAT DOUBLE HILLS IS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER SOUTH, AND IS MY UNDERSTANDING MORE OF THE STUDENTS ARE COMING FROM THE NORTH, [01:55:06] BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE COULD SEE HOW CLOSE THEY ARE IN THE GENERAL SCHEME OF THINGS. WHEN YOU ZOOM IN, THIS IS LOOKING AT THE TOWN OF DENTON AND SEEING HOW CLOSE THEY ARE, AND YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE ALMOST EQUIDISTANT FROM THE EXISTING LOCKERMAN. NORTH VERSUS SOUTH. THE EXISTING SITE, AS WE WERE TALKING EARLIER, 11.3 WOULD BE INSIDE THOSE ORANGE LINES. SO IT'S REALLY JUST THE PROPERTY LINES DEFINED AS THE 11.3 ACRES OF THE EXISTING SITE. AND AGAIN, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT 15 TO 25 ACRES IS THE GOAL OF A MIDDLE SCHOOL, DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU HAVE NEARBY TO USE AS RESOURCES. AS FAR AS THE EXISTING PARKING SPACES, THERE'S ONLY 87 SPACES THE GOAL IS 150. AND AGAIN, THERE'S JUST NOT A LOT OF ROOM FOR EXPANSION. WE DID HIGHLIGHT THE PARTS THAT WERE ASKED ABOUT BY MR. JONES THAT ARE USED BY THE SCHOOL. DOWN ON THE BOTTOM LEFT IS A SOFTBALL FIELD, WHICH IS WONDERFUL EXCEPT FOR THE KIDS ARE ONCE AGAIN CROSSING THE STREET TO GET THERE, AND THAT'S STEERING OUR UNDERSTANDING IS BEING ABLE TO USE DURING P.E . AGAIN ACROSS THE STREET IN THAT SMALLER WHITE POLYGON ARE SOME TENNIS COURTS THAT CAN ALSO BE USED, BUT THE KIDS AND STUDENTS AND STAFF ARE AGAIN CROSSING THE STREET IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY AND LEAVING THE PROPERTY. ANOTHER ITEM THAT WE'VE HIGHLIGHTED IS THERE'S THAT ORANGE RECTANGLE THAT WAS JUST TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF SCALE. THAT IS WHAT, 32,000FT² IF YOU WERE TO PUT AN ADDITION ON THE FIELD, THAT'S HOW BIG IT WOULD BE. SO AGAIN, YOU WOULD REALLY HAVE VERY LITTLE LEFT. YOU HAVE NO PARKING. YOU HAVE NO PLACE TO PUT YOUR BUS. THERE'S REALLY NOT ENOUGH ROOM. AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHY THE STATE APPROVED THE WAIVER TO LOOK AT OTHER SITES. SOME ITEMS AGAIN, SITE RELATED THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS THE DROP -OFF / PICK-UP, WHICH IS NUMBER 1. NUMBER 2, THERE'S A REMOTE ACCESS THAT'S KIND OF TUCKED BEHIND FOR THE AFTER-HOURS USE NOT GREAT FOR SAFETY AND SECURITY. THERE'S A GREAT COURTYARD THAT ALLOWS SOME DAYLIGHT, BUT IT'S KIND OF NARROW TO THE HUMAN SCALE. SO IT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD LIKE TO REPLICATE IN A NEW SITE. EVERYONE DOES LIKE THE CONCEPT, BUT JUST HAVE IT DESIGNED A LITTLE BIT MORE CONSCIOUSLY. THE SPECIAL ED BUSSES THAT ARE CREATING THEIR OWN DROP -OFF AREA HAVE A REALLY TIGHT MANEUVERING SPACE ON NUMBER 4. NUMBER 5 AGAIN, WE TALKED ABOUT THE LACK OF PARKING SPACES. AND THEN EVEN THE SERVICE AREA IS VERY URBAN, WHERE IT'S JUST KIND OF COME IN AND COME OUT. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF SPACE FOR STAFF PARKING AND FOR TRUCK MANEUVERING. NOW I'M GOING TO LET MR. SHEARON GO OVER THE SITE HIGHLIGHTS FOR EACH OF THE SITES THIS IS NORTH CAROLINE. SURE THANK YOU MY NAME IS KEVIN SHEARON. I'M PRINCIPAL AND OWNER OF DMS AND ASSOCIATES, WHO ARE A CIVIL ENGINEERING FIRM IN CENTREVILLE, MARYLAND. WE'VE ACTUALLY OUR FIRM HAS BEEN FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO WORK ON SEVERAL OF YOUR SCHOOLS INCLUDING COLONEL RICHARDSON HIGH SCHOOL RENOVATION, PRESTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AND THE GREENSBORO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL NEW BUILD. SO WE WERE BROUGHT ON TO THIS TEAM TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE TWO SITES NORTH CAROLINE HIGH AND DOUBLE HILLS. SO I'LL GO THROUGH KIND OF THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF WE'LL DO NORTH CAROLINE FIRST. JUST LOOKING AT BASICALLY SITE INFORMATION. SO THE PROPERTY FOR NORTH CAROLINE HIGH SCHOOL THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, THE PROPERTY ITSELF IS LARGER THAN THE 15.5 ACRES. BUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS ABOUT 15.5 ACRES OWNED BY THE CAROLINE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS. ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE DO ON ANY DEVELOPMENT, WHETHER IT'S A SCHOOL OR A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION OR WHAT HAVE YOU, WE LOOK AT THE ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCES. SO NORTH CAROLINE THE SITE ITSELF IS NOT WITHIN THE CRITICAL AREA WHERE THE BUILD WOULD GO, BUT THE EXISTING NORTH CAROLINE HIGH SCHOOL IS WITHIN THE CRITICAL AREA . SO LUCKILY, WHERE THE BUILD WOULD GO IS NOT IN THAT WE WOULD NOT HAVE THE RESTRICTIONS OF CRITICAL AREA LAW. IT'S NOT IN THE FLOODPLAIN. THERE ARE NO MAPPED WETLANDS ON SITE. THERE'S NO STREAM ON SITE A LOT OF THIS IS MAPPED PUBLIC INFORMATION THROUGH MARYLAND WEBSITES. THE SOILS ARE MAPPED AS A SANDY LOAM, WHICH IS A WELL-DRAINED SOIL, WHICH WOULD BE GOOD FOR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT INFILTRATION. WE DID A ROUGH SITE SURVEY, A TOPOGRAPHIC SURVEY OF THE SITE JUST TO CONFIRM DRAINAGE PATTERNS. THE IT'S RELATIVELY FLAT, BUT IT DOES DRAIN FROM CENTRAL AVENUE TOWARDS THE BACK, TOWARDS ASHWORTH SUBDIVISION. SO JUST IN TERMS OF SITE PLANNING, TRY TO GET YOU KNOW, AN EARLY READ ON WHICH WAY OUR STORMWATER WILL BE HEADING. [02:00:06] WE ALSO LOOKED AT TRANSPORTATION TO AND FROM THE SITE. THE PROPOSED SCHOOL LOCATION WOULD HAVE DIRECT ACCESS ON THE CENTRAL AVENUE. AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, CENTRAL AVENUE IS FAIRLY NARROW. THE WIDTH ITSELF IS ABOUT 21FT, WHICH A STANDARD ROAD WOULD BE ABOUT 24FT. A COMMERCIAL ROAD WOULD BE ABOUT 30FT. AT THE AREA CLOSEST TO NORTH CAROLINE HIGH SCHOOL, OFF RIVER ROAD ON THE NORTH SIDE ON THE SCHOOL SIDE THERE IS ABOUT A 10 FT SHOULDER. BUT AS YOU GO WEST IT TAPERS DOWN TO NOTHING. SO WE HAVE NOT CONSIDERED THAT AS PART OF THE COST INVOLVED WITH THIS SCHOOL. BUT IF WE WANTED TO BRING IT TO EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY, I THINK OVERALL WOULD HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT. AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT DOUBLE HILLS ALSO IT'S A SIMILAR SITUATION. CENTRAL AVENUE CURRENTLY IS STRIPED AS PASSING IN BOTH WAYS SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE ROAD SYSTEM WOULD HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT. AND HOWEVER WE LOOKED AT THE INTERSECTIONS COMING FROM THE SCHOOL BUSSES AND PARENTS COMING TO AND FROM THE SCHOOL. IF YOU WENT FROM THE SCHOOL, THE PRIMARY ROUTE WOULD BE TOWARDS RIVER ROAD . RIVER ROAD IS A STOP CONDITION FOR CENTRAL AVENUE RIVER ROAD CURRENTLY HAS THROUGH TRAFFIC, BUT I THINK THAT'S MANAGEABLE AT THE INTERSECTION. CENTRAL AVENUE HAS A DEDICATED LEFT TURN, DEDICATED RIGHT TURN, AND THEN A LANE COMING ONTO CENTRAL AVENUE. THE RADIUS AT EACH AT THE INTERSECTION SEEMS TO BE APPROPRIATE ENOUGH FOR SCHOOL BUSSES TO TRANSITION. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, IF YOU TURN RIGHT AND GO SOUTH ON RIVER ROAD , YOU COME TO A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION AT 404. FROM THAT SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION, THE MAJORITY OF THE SCHOOL BUSSES, WE FEEL, WOULD GO EAST AND WEST TO OTHER COUNTY ROADS TO THE AREAS WHERE THEY'RE SERVING STUDENTS THE EXISTING NORTH CAROLINE HIGH SCHOOL IS ON ITS OWN WATER TREATMENT SYSTEM AND SEWER TREATMENT PLANT. SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY PUBLIC, BUT IT IS MORE THAN A WELL AND SEPTIC. THE WE PULLED THE RECORDS FROM THE TOWN OF DENTON FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS FOR THE LOCKERMAN SCHOOL BECAUSE IT'S ON PUBLIC WATER SO WE HAVE WATER USAGE. AND ON AVERAGE, OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS LOCKERMAN MIDDLE SCHOOL HAS USED 2900 GALLONS PER DAY. WE CONTACTED THE OPERATOR OF THE NORTH CAROLINE HIGH SCHOOL TREATMENT PLANT AND THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT. SEWER TREATMENT PLANT AND WATER TREATMENT PLANT. AND THE SCHOOL IS AVERAGING, THE HIGH SCHOOL IS AVERAGING 3000 GALLONS A DAY. WE'RE CONTINUING TO DIG INTO THE CAPACITY OF THE EXISTING TREATMENT PLANT. BUT OUR UNDERSTANDING TO DATE IS THAT IT WAS BUILT TO HANDLE 10,000 GALLONS PER DAY. IT HAS A CURRENT MDE PERMIT WHERE IT DISCHARGES TO THE CHOP TANK. AND FROM ALL INDICATIONS, ALL THAT IS OPERATING AS IT SHOULD. SO WE WANT TO AND WE'LL BRING YOU ADDITIONAL INFORMATION BETWEEN NOW AND YOUR AUGUST MEETING, OR WE'LL GET THAT TO YOU AS SOON AS IT'S AVAILABLE. BUT WE WANT TO WE JUST WANT TO CONFIRM WE'VE GOT ANOTHER ENGINEERING FIRM THAT'S GOING TO LOOK AT THE EXISTING TREATMENT PLANT, JUST TO SOLIDIFY THAT THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE AN ISSUE. THAT MIGHT BE WITH THAT AREA RIGHT NOW I'LL COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT DOUBLE HILLS. THANK YOU SO HERE IS A DIAGRAM TRYING TO MAKE IT EASY FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND. AGAIN THE 15.5 IS RIGHT AT THE CENTER OF THE SITE THERE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THE MIDDLE SCHOOL TO THE LEFT, THAT DARK BLUE ELEMENT IS THE EXISTING SOLAR PANELS. AND THEY ARE LEASED TO GIVE YOU CREDITS FOR YOUR ENERGY BILLS FOR DENTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. SO A SEPARATE CONCEPT BUT THE LAND WAS THERE AND THE ARRAY WAS SENT THERE. WE DID DELVE INTO THE POSSIBLE REMOVAL OF THAT. AND THAT WAS NOT A GREAT USE OF FUNDING IN OUR MIND SO WE ARE CURRENTLY SHOWING IT STAYING IN PLACE SO THAT YOU'RE USING YOUR FUNDS FOR THINGS THAT THE STUDENTS CAN BENEFIT FROM. BELOW THE DARK BLUE RECTANGLE IS AN EXISTING PASTURE AND A BARN AND A LITTLE BIT OF GRAVEL PARKING. AND THAT IS ALL USED BY THE CAREER CENTER THAT'S AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH IS ALL THE WAY ON THE RIGHT IN THAT TAN COLORING. [02:05:06] SO WE'VE KEPT THOSE AREAS AS IS SO THAT WE COULD DEVELOP UNUSED AREAS OR AREAS THAT WOULD DIRECTLY BENEFIT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL. ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE IS 8.3 ACRES THAT IS AVAILABLE. AS WE'VE SPOKEN BEFORE, IT'S A LITTLE SMALL TO PUT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL THERE. BUT ONE THOUGHT THAT CAME UP DURING THE ANALYSIS WAS, WHAT IF WE TOOK THE SOFTBALL AND THE BASEBALL FIELD THAT ARE OVER BY THE CAREER CENTER AND GIVE THEM A WHOLE NEW COMPLEX IN THAT 8.3 ACRES AND REPURPOSE THAT SPACE FOR THE MIDDLE SCHOOL. SO THAT WAS KIND OF OUR LAUNCHING POINT OR ONE OF THE LAUNCHING POINT FOR THIS PARTICULAR SCHEME. AS MENTIONED BEFORE, WE DID LOOK AT MANY SCHEMES AT BOTH SITES SO THAT THE COMMUNITY COULD SEE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT THE SITE COULD BE LAID OUT. HERE IS A PROPOSED SITE PLAN SO THIS IS ONE WAY THAT THE BUILDING COULD BE LAID OUT. AND SO I'LL GO FROM LEFT TO RIGHT. ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, YOU CAN SEE A BRAND NEW BASEBALL FIELD ADJACENT TO THE SOFTBALL FIELD. THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM IF THEY WANTED TO PUT SOME SUPPORTING STRUCTURES OR PATHWAY OR GATHERING SPACES OVER THERE FOR THE COMMUNITY, YOU'D BE ABLE TO HAVE TWO OVERLAPPING PLAY FIELDS IN THAT AREA. AND THEN WE HAVE SHOWN AREA OF PARKING RIGHT ALONG CENTRAL AVENUE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING TO ANY OF THE GAMES OVER IN THAT AREA. AGAIN, IN THE MIDDLE, WE'RE LEAVING THE EXISTING SOLAR PANELS, WE'RE LEAVING THE PASTURE AND THE FARM AS IS AND WILL BE DEVELOPING ON THE OTHER SIDE. OVER THERE YOU CAN SEE WE'VE GOT SOME FIELDS AT THE TOP. THAT'S A SOCCER FIELD NOW FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL. AND WE WOULD HAVE TO RE REBUILD THOSE AFTER A GEOTHERMAL FIELD WENT IN, WHICH IS SHOWN IN THE LIGHT BLUE. GEOTHERMAL IS TO SUPPORT A REALLY HIGHLY EFFICIENT MECHANICAL SYSTEM FOR THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, WHICH IS REALLY GREAT FOR YOUR LONG-TERM OPERATING COSTS. AND IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO BE NET ZERO ENERGY I MEAN, READY. THE GOAL MIGHT BE FROM THE STATE TO TRY AND BE NET ZERO. IT'S UNDERSTANDING AT THIS MOMENT WITH THE AMOUNT OF PANELS THAT ARE CONNECTED TO THE CHOPTANK ELECTRIC SYSTEM, THAT THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO BRING ON A LOT MORE SOLAR OR MAYBE NONE AT THIS MOMENT I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS BY THE TIME THIS GOT BUILT OR RIGHT NOW. SO RIGHT NOW WE WOULD BE SUGGESTING A NET ZERO ENERGY READY BUILDING, WHICH IS A HIGHLY EFFICIENT BUILDING THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU THE ABILITY TO LOWER YOUR OPERATING COSTS. WE CAN GET ALL INTO THAT WHEN YOU GET TO THE BUILDING PORTION BUT ANYWAYS. BUT WE DO HAVE THE GEOTHERMAL FIELD LAID OUT TO SUPPORT THAT. WE ALSO HAVE A SMALL PLAY FIELD THAT COULD BE FOR KICKBALL OR FOR OTHER ACTIVITIES WITH THE GYM AND RECESS. AND THAT'S NEXT TO THAT SOCCER FIELD. THERE'S A WHITE KIND OF OBLONG SPACE THAT GOES AROUND, WHICH WOULD BE A WALKING PATH FOR THE STUDENTS. WE'VE GOT A BUS LOOP, WHICH AS YOU CAN SEE, ALL THE BUSSES CAN PARK AND STAY AND THE STUDENTS CAN COME AND GO, AND THEN THE BUSSES CAN LEAVE. SO IT REALLY GIVES THEM A SEPARATED SAFE SPACE TO PARK AND TO DROP -OFF AND PICK -UP THE STUDENTS. AND THEN THERE'S ABILITY FOR THEM TO ENTER THE BUILDING WE'RE SHOWING THERE IS A TWO STORY BUILDING. IT IS THE LARGEST VERSION OF THE BUILDING THAT WE KIND OF WERE EVALUATING. AND AGAIN, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU COULD SEE THAT IF WE WENT DOWN THAT ROUTE. MOVING FORWARD, WHEN YOU GET TO THE DESIGN PHASE, YOU STILL CAN FIT THE SITE ELEMENTS THERE. IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING ALONG CENTRAL AVENUE. THERE'S ENOUGH SPACE TO HAVE SOME VISITOR PARKING AND A DROP -OFF FOR THE CARS. AND THAT'S IMPORTANT. YOU WANT TO KEEP YOUR CARS DROPPING OFF AND MOVING AND NOT BLOCKING THE BUSSES. NOW THAT YOU HAVE A BRAND NEW SLATE TO WORK WITH [LAUGHTER]. AND THEN ON THE FAR SIDE, WE'VE SHOWN THE PARKING AREA ALL TOGETHER. FOR THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, THERE'S ABOUT 150 NEW SPACES FOR THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, BECAUSE DOWN ON THE BOTTOM WHERE THE SOFTBALL AND BASEBALL FIELD, THERE'S ABOUT 70 SPACES. AND THAT COULD BE ARGUABLY MORE FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL IN THAT PROGRAM. BUT YOU'VE GOT 150 SPACES FOR THE MIDDLE SCHOOL. AND THE NICE THING IS WE COULD CONNECT THAT TO THE HIGH SCHOOL. SO WHEN YOU NEED IT OVERFLOW FOR THE STADIUM, THEY'VE GOT PARKING. IF THE MIDDLE SCHOOL HAS A BIG EVENT, THEY CAN USE OVERFLOW OVER INTO THE HIGH SCHOOL SPOT. SO IT REALLY STARTS TO ALLOW YOU TO GET MORE OUT OF THE SITE HAVING BOTH BUILDINGS THERE. [02:10:03] THAT'S ON THE SITE, AND I THINK WE'VE GONE THROUGH ALL OF THAT OH, A COUPLE OTHER THINGS I DID NOT POINT OUT. THE TENNIS COURTS IN THE ED SPEC, THERE IS A REQUEST TO HAVE SOME TENNIS COURTS. RIGHT NOW, THERE'S ONLY 2 AT THE HIGH SCHOOL. WE'RE SHOWING 4 TO THE RIGHT OF THE STADIUM THERE AGAIN, BLUE RECTANGLES GOING HORIZONTALLY. BUT YOU COULD HAVE SOME MORE TENNIS COURTS IN THAT SAME AREA, WHICH COULD SUPPORT, AGAIN, BOTH THE HIGH SCHOOL FOR THEIR SPORTS AFTER SCHOOL. AND THEN IT COULD BE ALSO SUPPORTING THE MIDDLE SCHOOL P.E. CURRICULUM. WE HAVE SHOWN UP NORTH OF THE EXISTING SOLAR PANELS, WHICH IS THE BLUE POLYGON AT THE TOP OF THE SPACE AREA THAT IS ON SITE IF NET ZERO AND SOLAR PANELS ARE AVAILABLE IN TIME SO THERE'S SPACE THERE FOR THAT AS A FUTURE. ZOOMING IN TO REALLY HONE IN ON THE MIDDLE SCHOOL SITE. WE WANTED TO SHOW AGAIN PROGRAMMATICALLY HOW ALL OF THE SITE ELEMENTS WORK. I'M GOING TO GO FROM CENTRAL AVENUE UP THE REALLY RED FILLED IN TRIANGLE IS WHERE THE MAIN ENTRANCE WOULD BE. SO YOU'D BE ABLE TO HAVE THE FACE OF THE BUILDING TOWARDS CENTRAL AVENUE. REALLY EASY TO RECOGNIZE AS PEOPLE ARE TRAVELING DOWN THE ROAD AND TRYING TO ORIENT THEMSELVES TO THE BUILDING. YOU'D BE ABLE TO HAVE TO THE LEFT A COMMUNITY ENTRANCE. THERE'S A LITTLE TRIANGLE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE THERE. AGAIN, THERE'S A TRIANGLE FROM THE BUS LOOP WHERE THE STUDENTS COULD ENTER AND EXIT WHEN THEY'RE COMING FROM THE BUSSES AT THE BEGINNING AND THE END OF THE DAY. ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE BUILDING YOU'VE GOT A TRIANGLE AND THAT WOULD IN THE DARK PURPLE THERE IS WHERE THE SPECIAL ED PROGRAMS ARE BEING SHOWN. AND THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO USE A DROP -OFF LANE IN THE PARKING AREA FOR THE SMALLER BUSSES, FOR THE SPECIAL ED TO BE ABLE TO COME AND GO ON THAT END OF THE BUILDING. SOME OTHER GREAT ADJACENCIES IS YOU'VE GOT RECESS SPACE BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE STADIUM, AND YOU'VE GOT YOUR STUDENT DINING WOULD BE ABLE TO GO DIRECTLY OUT TO THE RECESS SPACE, AND THEN THE P.E COULD GO UP ALONG THE PATHWAY OF THE BUS LOOP AND GET TO THE P.E SPACES. SO EVERYTHING THERE'S LOTS OF AVAILABILITY FOR CURRICULUM SCHOOL IN SUMMARY, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE PROPOSED SCHOOL YOU'LL SEE I HAVE THE PROPOSED NEW SCHOOL THE SAME PAGE THAT WHAT SITE YOU'RE AT, THE ACREAGE IS AT 15, 25 WE HAVE BOTH SITES EVALUATED WITH COST THE BUILDING IS GOING TO BE THE SAME THE BIG DIFFERENCE IS THE SITE COST SO THIS IS THE ONE THAT'S ABOUT 10 MILLION YOU'LL SEE THAT DOUBLE HILLS WILL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE IMMEDIATE TO THAT POINT SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES, LIKE WE'VE TALKED BEFORE, THIS PARTICULAR SITE IS SO THIS IS YOUR SITE TODAY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT DEEDS OR MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING OR ANY OF THAT LIKE DOUBLE HILLS WOULD. IT'S A SHARED CAMPUS YOU ALREADY HAVE A PRECEDENT FOR THAT. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT'S WORKING PRETTY WELL, BEING ABLE TO SHARE RESOURCES AND GO BACK AND FORTH AND HAVE PARTNERSHIPS BETWEEN THE TWO SCHOOLS. SO THE COMMUNITY REALLY SEEMED TO LIKE THAT POTENTIAL. THERE'S CLEAR PATHS FOR THE INDOOR AND OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES. THERE'S NO CROSSING OF STREETS LOTS OF CAPABILITIES THERE. ALSO, BECAUSE YOU ARE SHARING, YOU KNOW, MORE SPACES. SO THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT LARGE EVENTS, YOU KNOW, AND RIGHT NOW, IF THEY'RE AT DOUBLE HILLS OR IF THEY'RE AT LOCKERMAN, NOW, WHERE DO WE GO FOR THESE LARGE EVENTS THAT DON'T HAPPEN THAT OFTEN, AND YOU DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO BUILD MORE SPACE THAT THE STATE'S NOT GOING TO SUPPORT. WELL, YOU'VE GOT A HIGH SCHOOL RIGHT THERE THAT'S GOT A LARGE AUDITORIUM IT'S GOT A LARGE GYM. THERE'S SOME THINGS FOR THOSE ONE OFF EVENTS THAT HAPPEN THROUGHOUT THE SCHOOL. OUR PARENT TEACHER NIGHT, THINGS LIKE THAT THAT PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS CONCERNED ABOUT FOR PARKING. YOU'VE GOT THAT CAPABILITY IN TO EXPAND WHEN YOU'RE SHARING RESOURCES. NEXT AGAIN, WE TALKED ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE. YOU'VE GOT THAT. AND THEN ANOTHER ONE THAT REALLY CAME UP A LOT IS THE BUSSES AND THE STUDENTS AND THE AMOUNT OF TIME, THE LENGTH OF THEIR DAY FROM THE TIME THEY GET ON A BUS TO THEY GET DROPPED OFF THE BUS BACK AT THEIR HOME. YOU KNOW, ALL THE MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS AND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS ARE GETTING PICKED UP AT THE SAME TIME IN THE SAME PLACE. RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE GOING DROPPING OFF AT THE HIGH SCHOOL AND THEN GOING TO LOCKERMAN AND THEN IN REVERSE. RIGHT? SO IT MAKES A LONGER DAY. TO HAVE BOTH SCHOOLS IN ONE SPOT. YOU KNOW? A LOT OF PARENTS AND TEACHERS THOUGHT, WELL, THEY MIGHT GET SOME EXTRA SLEEP [LAUGHTER], WHICH EVERY KID COULD USE TODAY. SO THAT WAS WONDERFUL. AND EVEN PARENTS DROPPING OFF, IF THEY HAVE MULTIPLE STUDENTS NOW, [02:15:05] THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO ONE LOCATION, OR STUDENTS MIGHT BE ABLE TO CARPOOL. IF YOU'VE GOT A HIGH SCHOOLER THAT'S DRIVING AND THEY'VE GOT A MIDDLE SCHOOL SIBLING. SO A LOT OF TRANSPORTATION EFFICIENCY THAT PEOPLE COULD SEE THAT COULD REALLY HELP OUT THE STUDENTS. SOME OF THE CHALLENGES I'VE BROUGHT UP ALREADY IS YOU DO HAVE THE SOLAR PANELS THAT ARE THERE. WE SEEM TO HAVE COME UP WITH A SOLUTION THAT CAN WORK AROUND IT, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'LL HAVE TO BE PAYING ATTENTION DURING CONSTRUCTION AND DURING THE DESIGN. THE FIELD RELOCATION SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ESTABLISH IDEALLY THOSE FIELDS BEFORE, YOU KNOW, WE DEMOLISH THE ONES THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY USING SO THAT THE HIGH SCHOOL PROGRAM CAN CONTINUE. AND THEN OF COURSE, AS WE'VE TALKED, ALSO THE INCREASED TRAFFIC ON CENTRAL AVENUE AND COORDINATING THAT WITH THE COUNTY AND MAKING SURE THAT YOU HAVE ALL THE SAFETY MECHANISMS IN THE DESIGN OF THE ROAD AS YOU APPROACH FOR THE STUDENTS. NEXT, WE HAVE THE DOUBLE HILLS SITE HERE IS AN AERIAL. YOU CAN SEE IT IS LARGER. IT IS CONFINED RIGHT NOW BY DEVELOPED PROPERTIES. ON THE NORTH YOU HAVE AN INDUSTRIAL SITE ON THE EAST SIDE OR THE WEST SIDE THERE'S THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THE OTHER COUNTY BUILDING. AND THEN YOU SEE THIS KIND OF CURVED ON THE [LAUGHTER] ON THE BOTTOM AND THE TOP. THAT IS THE NEW ROAD THAT IS ACTUALLY ALREADY BEEN BUILT AND WILL BE CONSTRUCTED PRETTY SOON. SO WE HAD CONSTRAINTS THERE AT FIRST WE THOUGHT THAT WE COULD DO WHATEVER WE WANTED AND THE SKY WAS THE LIMIT, BUT WE DID LEARN THAT THE COUNTY HAD STARTED DEVELOPING THAT ROAD. SO WE DO HAVE 20 ACRES ON THE SITE TO WORK WITH, AND I'LL LET KEVIN GO INTO THE NUTS AND BOLTS FOR YOU THANK YOU ROBYN. SO THIS SITE, AS YOU ALL KNOW, IS A PART OF A LARGER PROPERTY OWNED BY CAROLINE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. THE OVERALL PROPERTY IS ABOUT 76 ACRES. AS ROBYN ALLUDED TO, WE LEARNED DURING THIS FEASIBILITY STUDY THAT THE COUNTY HAD RETAINED AN ENGINEER TO DESIGN A CONNECTOR ROAD THROUGH THE 76 ACRES THAT ESSENTIALLY GOES FROM PARK AVENUE OFF OF THE INDUSTRIAL PARK COMES SOUTH, MAKES A SWEEP TO THE WEST, AND CONNECTS JUST SOUTH OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AT DOUBLE HILLS ROAD. SO I INQUIRED ABOUT THE STATUS OF THAT. AND THE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS IN CHARGE OF THE PROJECT FOR THE COUNTY SAID THAT IT HAD ACTUALLY BEEN OUT TO BID. AND I THINK SINCE THEN THEY MAY HAVE EVEN AWARDED THAT BID SO THAT THEN DEFINED WHAT WE ANALYZED. LUCKILY, IT WAS ABOUT 20 ACRES IT IS A LITTLE TIGHT AS DR. LEVER POINTED TO BEFORE, WITH FIELDS AND EVERYTHING AND NOT HAVING THE EFFICIENCY OF OVERLAPPING FACILITIES BUT. SO WE GOT 20.5 ACRES AGAIN, WE DID THE ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS. THIS PROPERTY IS NOT LOCATED WITHIN THE CHESAPEAKE BAY CRITICAL AREA . IT'S NOT IN THE FLOODPLAIN. THERE ARE, HOWEVER, MAPPED WETLANDS ON THE SITE AS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY GOING SOUTH THERE'S ALSO A PERENNIAL STREAM. THE SOILS HERE ARE ALSO SANDY LOAM. BUT GIVEN THE PRESENCE OF A STREAM AND WETLANDS THAT TYPICALLY INDICATES A HIGHER GROUNDWATER. SO THAT WOULD JUST BE A CONSIDERATION FOR UTILITIES AND WHATNOT IN TERMS OF COST OF CONSTRUCTION. THE TOPOGRAPHY IS RELATIVELY FLAT, BUT IT SLOPES. AND THIS THIS WILL BE KEY LATER WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT THE SEWER AND WATER. THE PROPERTY SLOPES FROM THE INDUSTRIAL PARK TO THE SOUTH. SO WE'LL GET INTO THAT IN JUST A MINUTE. IN TERMS OF THE SEWER AVAILABILITY TRANSPORTATION, AS I JUST MENTIONED, THE PRIMARY ACCESS FOR THE SITE COMING AND GOING TO A MIDDLE SCHOOL THERE WE BELIEVE WOULD BE THROUGH DOUBLE HILLS ROAD TAKING TRAFFIC THROUGH PARK AVENUE AND THE INDUSTRIAL PARK JUST DOESN'T SEEM IDEAL. THE OVERALL PLAN FOR THE COUNTY IS TO CONNECT THE PROPOSED CONNECTOR ROAD, IF YOU WILL, ON OUT TO. I BELIEVE IT'S WALSH WAY ON LEGION ROAD. SO THAT WOULD KIND OF THAT MAY CREATE SOME THROUGH TRAFFIC FROM LEGION ROAD THROUGH TO THE SCHOOL AND BACK. BUT NOT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT WE BELIEVE AGAIN, IT WOULD ALL GO OUT OR THE MAJORITY WOULD GO OUT TO DOUBLE HILLS. SO ON , DOUBLE HILLS IS ALSO A VERY NARROW ROAD. IN THAT LOCATION IT HAS LITTLE TO NO SHOULDERS ALSO. [02:20:02] THE ROUTE FROM THERE WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE YOU TURN OUT OF THE SITE, YOU TURN RIGHT ONTO DOUBLE HILLS ROAD, AND THEN AS YOU, AS YOU KNOW, IT'S A SHORT TEE BEFORE YOU GET TO THE SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION ON 404. SO THAT THAT WITH 40 BUSSES COMING AND GOING AND PARENTS COMING AND GOING, THAT PRESENTS A BIT OF A CHALLENGE IN TERMS OF QUEUING AT THAT LOCATION. SO WE JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT THAT MAY NOT BE THE MOST IDEAL. IT IS NICE THAT IT'S A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION, OBVIOUSLY, BUT JUST THE QUEUING TO GET TO THE SIGNAL AND THE EFFICIENCY OF GETTING THROUGH THE SIGNAL IS A BIT OF A CHALLENGE AT THAT LOCATION, THE WATER AND THE SEWER. SO WE GOT A COPY OF THE ROAD PLANS THAT GO FROM PARK AVENUE, BASICALLY PARK AVENUE EXTENDED OUT TO DOUBLE HILLS. AND THERE IS A WATER LINE PROPOSED IN THE ROAD. SO THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THE SCHOOL BUILD. THERE'S A 300,000 GALLON ELEVATED WATER STORAGE TANK IN THE INDUSTRIAL PARK , SO WATER FLOW AND PRESSURE WOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE. THE SEWER, ON THE OTHER HAND, IS A LITTLE MORE OF A CHALLENGE. THEY ARE EXTENDING A GRAVITY SEWER LINE FROM THE INDUSTRIAL PARK OUT ALONG THE EXTENSION OF THE ROAD, BUT IT ONLY GOES ABOUT HALFWAY DOWN THAT SOUTHERN SEGMENT BEFORE IT RUNS OUT OF INVERT, BECAUSE THE PROPERTY IS SLOPING TO THE SOUTH AND THE GRAVITY LINE HAS TO SLOPE IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. SO WE HAVE ANTICIPATED THE NEED FOR A PUMPING STATION FOR THE SCHOOL. THE OTHER CHALLENGE HERE IS THAT WITHIN THE 20.5 ACRES, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THE EMERGENCY SERVICES BUILDING BOTH HAVE CURRENT SEPTIC AREAS ON WITHIN THAT 20.5 ACRES. SO WE WOULD NEED TO TIE THOSE TO THIS PUMP STATION. FROM THE PUMP STATION IT WOULD THEN GO IN ONE OF TWO LOCATIONS. INSIDE THE INDUSTRIAL PARK , THERE IS A PUMP STATION THAT THE TOWN OWNS BUT THEY HAVE INDICATED THAT THAT IS AT CAPACITY WOULD NEED TO BE REBUILT. SO WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT BUILDING A NEW PUMP STATION, REBUILDING A PUMP STATION, OR THE ALTERNATIVE WOULD BE TO BUILD AN ON-SITE PUMP STATION AND EXTEND A FORCE MAIN ALL THE WAY TO THE SEWER TREATMENT PLANT, WHICH IS ON LEGION ROAD. SO THAT WOULD MOST LIKELY BE THE LESS EXPENSIVE OF THE TWO OPTIONS. BUT THAT PRESENTS A CHALLENGE. YOU KNOW? JUST IN TERMS OF GETTING THE SITE SEWER. THE OTHER THING, AND THIS IS BEYOND THE SEWER AND WATER, BUT I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT BECAUSE IT IS THE OWNERSHIP OF THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. WHEN I WAS SPEAKING TO THE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS IN CHARGE OF THE ROAD PROJECT. I WAS ASKING HIM WHAT WAS PLANNED FOR THE REST OF THE PROPERTY, AND HE I'M NOT GOING TO PUT HIM ON RECORD, BUT THERE WERE USES THAT THEY DON'T KNOW YET, BUT THERE WERE SOME USES THAT ARE CERTAINLY NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE MIDDLE SCHOOL I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. THANK YOU YEAH YOU CAN SEE THE TWO BEIGE RECTANGLES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE. AND THOSE ARE THE EXISTING SEPTIC SYSTEMS THAT ARE ON THE SITE. AND AGAIN, YOU'VE GOT THE EMERGENCY SERVICES ON THE TOP LEFT. AND THEN THE SHERIFF IS KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE, ON THE LEFT. AND THEN THE NEW COUNTY ROAD WE'RE SHOWING SWEEPING FROM LEFT TO RIGHT AND TO THE TOP. AND THEN WE'VE SHOWN THE CONNECTION THAT WE BELIEVE TO BE OVER ON WALSH WAY. JUST ONE THING TO CLARIFY IS THE WETLANDS ARE NOT ON THE 20 ACRES, BUT THEY ARE ADJACENT. SO WE WILL LIKE I SAID, IT DOES AFFECT THE GROUNDWATER, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT AS FAR AS BUFFERS. AND AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S ABOUT FIVE PROPERTIES THAT WE SAW DIVVIED UP THAT COULD BE USED FOR DIFFERENT USES RIGHT THEN THE WAY THAT WOULD WORK LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN, AGAIN, WE'RE USING ALL THE SAME ELEMENTS. WE HAVE 150 SPACES THAT ARE AT THE TOP IN BETWEEN THE SCHOOL AND THE INDUSTRIAL PARK . WE HAVE TWO PLAY FIELDS AND A SOFTBALL FIELD THAT ARE TO THE LEFT OF THE BUILDING. IT IS THE SAME FOOTPRINT THAT WE SHOWED YOU FROM THE OTHER BUILDING. IT DOES ALSO HAVE THE LITTLE EXTENSIONS AT EITHER END OF THE WING FOR THE ADDITIONS THAT WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE. WE HAVE 4 TENNIS COURTS THAT ARE SHOWN HERE. WE HAVE A BUS LOOP THAT IS SEPARATE FROM THE PARKING AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SITE. WE'VE SHOWN SOME AREAS OF STORMWATER MANAGEMENT THAT ARE TO THE SOUTH OF THE BUS LOOP, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE WHERE THE WATER IS DRAINING TOWARDS. [02:25:09] WE'VE GOT AREAS THAT WE COULD PUT SOLAR PANELS IF THE CAPACITY IS THERE. I THINK THIS SITE COULD HAVE. WAS IT 17? IS IT 20? USES. BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO OFFSET ENOUGH TO BE NET ZERO NOT EVEN CLOSE. SO YOU HAVE THAT CHALLENGE HERE TOO, THAT IT WOULD BE FUTURE SOLAR PANELS. WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO BE ABLE TO PUT A DROP -OFF AREA BETWEEN THE NEW ROAD AND THE BUILDING AGAIN, RIGHT AT THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING. BUT AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE HERE IF YOU WERE COMING FROM DOUBLE HILLS ROAD AND YOU'RE APPROACHING THE BUILDING. WE DID LOOK AT IT MANY WAYS IT'S REALLY KIND OF HARD TO GET THE BUILDING IN A SPOT WHERE IT'S EASILY DEFINABLE BECAUSE YOU'RE COMING IN ON A CURVE. SO THAT IS ONE THING THAT WAS KIND OF A DISADVANTAGE AS WE WERE TRYING TO LOOK AT THIS SITING OF THIS BUILDING IS HAVING YOU ALWAYS KIND OF CAME INTO IT FROM THE SIDE OR THE BACK. I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT FOR ALL THE SIDE ELEMENTS. YES THAT WOULD BE WHERE WE WERE SHOWING SOME STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AREA. SO THE WATER WOULD ALL GO IN THERE WOULD BE FILTERED FOR QUALITY. BECAUSE YOU DON'T, NONE OF THE WATER CAN LEAVE THE SITE UNTIL IT'S BEEN PUT BACK TO THE SAME QUALITY THAT IT STARTED ON THE SITE AND WOULD ALSO BE HELD THERE SO IT DOESN'T LEAVE THE SITE. IT HAS TO LEAVE THE SITE AT THE SAME QUANTITY, THE SAME RATE THAT IT DOES BEFORE YOU BUILD ON IT. SO THAT WOULD BE THE LARGEST STORMWATER FACILITY. THERE'S SOME OTHER ONES SCATTERED AROUND THE SITE. THAT ARE MORE LIKE BIO RETENTION AREAS MICRO MICROBIAL RETENTION AREAS [LAUGHTER]. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE SMALLER. SO THAT'S THE STRATEGY THAT WE USE THESE DAYS IS NOT THE BIG LARGE POND THAT YOU SEE THE GEESE AND DUCKS FLOATING IN. THE IDEA IS THAT THEY THE WATER REALLY COMES THROUGH THEM PRETTY QUICKLY BUT. THANK YOU WE HAVE THE WALKING PATH. WE'VE GOT THE GEOTHERMAL SHOWN IN THE LIGHT BLUE. WE'VE GOT ALL THE DIFFERENT ENTRANCE AND DROP -OFF SPACES HERE. BOTH THE BUSSES WOULD BE DROPPING OFF ON ONE END. BOTH THE SPECIAL ED AND THE REGULAR STUDENT BUSSES WOULD BE THERE. JUST WOULD HAVE ONE WOULD ENTER ONE WING AND ONE WOULD ENTER THE OTHER. AND WE'D STILL BE ABLE TO HAVE THE COMMUNITY ENTRANCE SEPARATE AGAIN, BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME BUILDING, JUST A LITTLE ORIENTED, A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY ON THE SITE. AND TO SUM UP THIS SITE AGAIN, BUILDING IS THE SAME SIZE YOU DO HAVE MORE ACREAGE. THE SITE COST IS SLIGHTLY HIGHER, ABOUT A HALF $1 MILLION HIGHER AT THIS WHAT WE KNOW NOW. THE OPPORTUNITIES HERE, THE COUNTY DOES OWN IT. SO YOU'RE NOT BUYING IT FROM SOMEONE ELSE IT IS RELATIVELY A BLANK SLATE. A LOT OF OPEN SPACE YOU CAN CONNECT TO THE PUBLIC WATER, WHICH WILL BE IN SEWER, WHICH WILL BE IN THE NEW ROAD. AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO THOUGHT OR FOR THOSE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT, YOU COULD HAVE A COMPLETE SEPARATION FROM YOUR MIDDLE SCHOOL AND YOUR HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH YOU HAVE AT LOCKERMAN NOW. CHALLENGES IS THERE IS AN EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE SITE. SO WE HAVE TO CONNECT TO EVERYTHING INTO THE ROAD, WHICH WILL MOST LIKELY INVOLVE A SUMP PUMP. IT IS LONGER TRAVEL DISTANCE. SO AGAIN, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LENGTH OF TIME THE STUDENTS ARE SPENDING ON THE BUS NOW, THEY'RE GOING A COUPLE MILES FURTHER THAN LOCKERMAN. SO THAT'S GOING TO MAKE FOR A LONGER DAY FOR THE STUDENTS. THE WETLANDS, WE DO NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO THOSE. AND THEN THE EXISTING TRAFFIC, WHICH THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERN WITH THE BEACH TRAFFIC ON 404, WHICH WE UNDERSTAND IS NOT JUST THE SUMMER. IT'S ALMOST YEAR ROUND IT'S DEFINITELY FROM MARCH THROUGH OCTOBER. IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE A CAUSE FOR CONCERN AS PEOPLE WERE EVALUATING THE SITE. SO HERE WE HAVE A SLIDE WHERE YOU CAN SEE THINGS RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER. BUT IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I WILL GO TO THE FINAL SLIDE, WHICH IS THE RECOMMENDATION FROM EVERYONE THAT WAS INVOLVED IN THE FEASIBILITY STUDY THAT IT REALLY SEEMED TO BE LEANED TOWARDS THE NORTH CAROLINE HIGH SCHOOL SITE AFTER WE HAD EVALUATED ALL THE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS. SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS THAT CAME OUT THROUGHOUT THE ANALYSIS AND THE SURVEYS AND ALL OF THAT WAS, [02:30:02] AGAIN, THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT YOU'RE NOT SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY ON THAT. THE SITE READINESS THE EDUCATIONAL ALIGNMENT, A LOT OF REALLY EXCITING IDEAS CAME OUT DURING THE COMMUNITY MEETING OF WAYS THAT YOU COULD REALLY HAVE MENTORSHIPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT WITH THE OLDER AND THE YOUNGER STUDENTS BEING ON ONE SITE. LONG TERM OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY, AGAIN, YOU HAVE EVERYBODY IS GOING TO ONE SITE FOR ANY OF THE MAINTENANCE ASPECTS ON THE SCHOOL SIDE. TRANSPORTATION EFFICIENCY WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT WITH THE BUSSES REALLY REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THE KIDS ARE ON THE BUSSES AND THE LENGTH OF TIME THAT THEY'RE DEDICATING TO THEIR SCHOOL DAY. AND OF COURSE, THE COST CAME UP AS BEING A CHEAPER SITE TO DEVELOP. AND HERE WE JUST PUT A GRAPH THERE FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO SEE HOW THE COMMUNITY WEIGHED IN. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET EVERYBODY TO AGREE ON EVERYTHING, BUT IT WAS OVERWHELMING THAT MORE OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO RESPONDED IN THE SURVEY REALLY WERE LEANING TOWARDS THAT NORTH CAROLINE SITE AND THE POTENTIAL THAT IT HAS. AND THAT IS THE END OF OUR PRESENTATION. I KNOW THAT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION SO PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS. THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD, I WAS JUST CURIOUS PLAN B FOR NORTH CAROLINE, IF THE WASTEWATER IS NOT EXPANDABLE AND WE CAN'T USE THE CURRENT ONE. SO OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT'S A PACKAGE PLANT, WHICH IS EXPANDABLE BUT SO WE WILL DRILL DOWN ON THAT PERSPECTIVE AND WHAT THE COST IMPLICATION IS THE INDICATION RIGHT NOW IS THAT IT'S 10,000 GALLONS PER DAY FACILITY, AND IT'S ONLY USING 3,000 GALLONS AND THEN THAT WOULD BE A IF NOT WE PUT A COST ASSOCIATED WITH IT AND RIGHT NOW THE UPGRADE TO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT OF NORTH CAROLINE HIGH SCHOOL IS IN THE CIP? IT'S A FEW YEARS AWAY AFTER THE LOCKERMAN BUILD THAT OBVIOUSLY, IF THE SITE LOCATION IS NORTH CAROLINE HIGH SCHOOL, THAT MAY MOVE UP A LITTLE SOONER FOR THE UPGRADE. BE PART OF THE WHOLE WORK POTENTIALLY. BUT I DO KNOW THAT IT'S DUE FOR AN UPGRADE HERE WITHIN THE NEXT 5 TO 7 I THINK IT IS ON THE CIP. AND IF IT TAKES 10,000 YOU'RE ON YOUR YOU PROBABLY 6 TO 7 PUTTING INTO IT SO YOU GOT MORE INTO PLAY SO. I WASN'T SURE IF THERE WAS A PLAN B ON IF SOMETHING FAILED SO I FIGURED IT JUST AFFECTS THE COST THAT'S [LAUGHTER] YEAH. YEAH THAT MIGHT KILL THE PROJECT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BOARD MEMBERS ? I HAVE SO THE DOUBLE HILLS SITE IS $500,000 LESS. DOES THAT INCLUDE, LIKE, IF THERE WAS A PUMPING STATION TO BE BUILT OR ANY OF THAT? OR IS THAT, LIKE, UNDETERMINED RIGHT NOW OR WOULD NEED TO BE FACTORED IN AT A LATER DATE? SO IT'S 500,000 MORE. THAT'S WHAT I MEAN MORE SORRY. THE NORTH CAROLINE IS OUR UNDERSTANDING AT THIS MOMENT, THAT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING WE'VE BEEN FEEDING [LAUGHTER]. THE LINE ITEM IN THE WHAT WAS THE COST TO MOVE THE SOLAR PANELS AT THE NORTH CAROLINE SITE? AND WHAT WHAT'S THE COST IF WE JUST ELIMINATED THEM? WELL I REALLY DON'T KNOW DRAWING, I DON'T REALLY THINK THAT WE HAVE ANY DRAWINGS PRESENTED TO US, NOT TO PRESENT IT TO US, BUT PRESENTED TO THE COMMUNITY AT ANY OF THE MEETINGS WHERE THE SOLAR PANELS WERE LEFT THERE. WE DID WHATEVER IT IS, THOSE SOLAR PANELS BEING RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE THEY'RE LIMITING FUTURE EXPANSION. THEY'RE LIMITING THERE'S A LOT OF LIMITING FACTORS THAT THEY HAVE. IT WOULD BE GREAT TO KNOW WHAT IT COSTS US TO GET RID OF THEM, BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO SAY IF WE CHOSE THAT SPOT, WE WOULD SAVE $500,000. TECHNICALLY, THAT WOULD GO TOWARDS THE $2 MILLION TO RELOCATE THEM OR WHATEVER IT WAS. I JUST THINK THAT LIKE WHEN YOU WHEN YOU BUILD SOMETHING, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO REALLY LOOK FARTHER DOWN THE ROAD. YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS SITE. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WHEN WE HAVE THESE TWO SCHOOLS NEXT TO EACH OTHER? WHERE ARE WE GOING TO? WHAT WILL WE DO WHEN ONE OF THESE SCHOOLS NEEDS TO EXPAND OR NEEDS TO BE REPLACED? [02:35:03] THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW, I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER SITE. I CAN'T SEE WITH THERE BEING NO ROOM THERE. AND ALSO WHAT DOES THAT DO FOR THE CURRENT NORTH CAROLINE? THE CURRENT PARKING SPOTS, WHEREAS I DON'T IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT ADDS MANY SPOTS FOR NORTH CAROLINE IF ANY WERE THE DESIGNS I DO KNOW THAT WHERE THE SOLAR FIELD WAS GONE, YOU WERE ABLE TO INCORPORATE ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR NORTH CAROLINE, WHICH IS AN ISSUE ALREADY. PARKING THERE, A LOT OF QUESTIONS BUT. YEAH SO JUST AS A REMINDER, YOU WILL BE CHOOSING A SITE, CORRECT. BY THE TIME YOU GET A FULL BLOWN DESIGN TEAM AND DESIGN STARTED, YOU WILL HAVE A KNOWN BUDGET AND EVERYONE WILL KNOW THAT FROM DAY ONE. SO ALL DECISIONS WILL BE ABLE TO BE MADE LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, LIKE COST SHIFTING, WE'RE BEING PRESENTED REALLY BEING ABLE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THE BEST THING FOR THE LOCKERMAN HIGH OR MIDDLE SCHOOL. RIGHT. ONCE YOU ONCE WE HAVE ALL THOSE THINGS LOCKED IN. SO YES, THERE ARE MANY WAYS THAT YOU COULD SITE THAT BUILDING. YOU KNOW, YOU COULD MOVE THE BARN AND KEEP THE SOLAR PANELS. YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, MOVE THE SOLAR PANELS. THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN YOU GET YOUR DESIGN TEAM ON BOARD IN THE SPRING, THAT CAN BE RESEARCHED A LITTLE BIT FURTHER. WE'VE GOT SOME PRELIMINARY INFORMATION. BUT REALLY THEN WHEN THEY'RE STARTING WITH THEIR SCHEMATIC DESIGNS AND REALLY STARTING TO THINK ABOUT THIS FURTHER, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS ALL OF THOSE AND REALLY SEE IF ANY OF THE THREE THAT WE PRESENTED ARE LOCKED IN. RIGHT? BUT I DO AGREE WITH YOU THAT YOU WOULD HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY IF THEY WERE GONE, BUT YOU REALLY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND HOW MANY CREDITS ARE YOU GETTING FOR DENTON, YOU KNOW, HOW IS THAT PRESENTED TO US. WE WANTED TO SHOW AS COMPARED TO A ONE CONTIGUOUS SITE SO THAT'S WHY AND LIKE I SAID, LOOKING AT A SCHOOL BUILDING THAT'S GOING TO BE HERE, LOOK HOW LONG THE LAST ONE WAS HERE. WAS, SINCE 1930 SOMETHING. SO THIS DECISION, SOMETHING A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE, PEOPLE THAT HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN BORN YET, ARE GOING TO HAVE TO LIVE WITH [LAUGHTER] SO. I AGREE, WE WANT TO TRY WHAT WE DEEMED AS BEING KIND OF YOUR WORST CASE IN THAT AREA, YOUR BIGGEST FOOTPRINT WERE, YOU KNOW, SAVING MONEY THERE AND USING IT THAT YOU COULD USE IT FOR, YOU KNOW, BRAND NEW BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL FIELD, YOU KNOW, SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF COST SHIFTING THAT YOU COULD DO ONCE WE KNOW ALL OF THE PARAMETERS. AND I KNOW BILL'S BEEN TRYING TO GET THAT INFORMATION. SO, MR. JONES IT TOOK US OVER SIX MONTHS TO GET JUST 300 PANELS OFF THE ROOF RIGHT IT COULD TAKE A YEAR AND A HALF OR TWO YEARS TO GET THOSE TAKEN DOWN WE DO HAVE A COST OF ABOUT $180,000 TO BUY THAT ENTIRE FIELD AND MAKE THAT OUR FIELD OKAY. BUT THEN THE COST IS 110% ON US TO GO AND REMOVE EVERYTHING ALL RIGHT. PULL IT OUT OF THE GROUND RELOCATE IT, PUT IT INTO THE GROUND WELL, LIKE I SAID, WE'VE GOT $500,000 OF SAVINGS. SO IF WE BUY IT FOR 180, WE'VE GOT 300 TO GET RID OF IT. AND THEN ANYTHING THAT WE SPEND OVER THAT, IN MY OPINION, IS AN INVESTMENT INTO THE FUTURE OF THAT SITE, NOT. YEAH I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW SOME OF THE CONSTRAINTS I'VE DEALT WITH IN THE PAST AND IT'S THE CONCERN IS A COUPLE THOUSAND PANELS THERE AND, YOU KNOW, I GOT A LITTLE BIT OF AN EDUCATION DRIVING UP TO GOLDSBORO ABOUT 3 OR 4 WEEKS AGO BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PUTTING A CHERRYWOOD PROJECT YOU JUST SEE THE PANELS, YOU DON'T SEE THE STANCHIONS THAT THEY'RE ON THAT THE METAL FOOTINGS THAT GO INTO THE GROUND YOU'LL SEE ALL THE CABLES THAT ARE BEING RUN AND EVERYTHING IT'S GOING TO ALL BE BACK TO FARMLAND SO [LAUGHTER]. I LIKE THE LIKE WHAT YOU THINK [LAUGHTER]. YES I MEAN, I'M JUST TRYING TO THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD ABOUT. HERE'S SOME OF THE FUTURE CHALLENGES WITH THAT I DO AGREE WITH YOU. IT'S A BIG DECISION TO BE MADE TO IMPACT EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM BY FOR THE REST OF OUR LIVES RIGHT? RIGHT. AND AS YOU SAID, PEOPLE AREN'T EVEN BORN YET WHAT IS THE AMICABLE SOLUTION FOR IT [02:40:01] I THINK AS FAR AS THE TIMELINE, THOUGH, IF WE DID DECIDE THAT THIS WAS THE SITE AND THAT WE WANTED TO LOOK INTO THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET THEM OUT WITHIN THE TIME FRAME OF ALL THE OTHER PLANNING THAT HAS TO GO ON. I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT YEAH SO, OKAY THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? I DON'T I'M JUST GLAD WE HAVE SOME TIME TO GO THROUGH THIS. WE ALL HAVE IT ON OUR LAPTOP SO WE CAN STUDY IT YOU KNOW. ANYBODY ELSE WHO YOU THINK MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION BETTER THAN ANYONE OF US I DO SUGGEST THAT YOU GO OUT AND SEEK OUT THOSE ANSWERS BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, VERY LONG TIME. SO THAT'S MY SUGGESTION IS TO THINK ABOUT IT FOR A MONTH OR SO AND LET'S COME BACK AND REVISIT IT IN AUGUST RIGHT. AND I KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION AT A COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING. DO WE HAVE ANY PLAN OR SHOULD WE THINK ABOUT MEETING WITH THEM BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN WE DECIDE, OR IS THAT NOT NECESSARY? OR IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN DO FOR THE BOARD? JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT AS FAR AS THE TWO SITES AND THEIR THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS, I CAN DO THAT, THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY PARTICIPATED IN THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH. I DON'T RECALL. THEY HAD ANOTHER AVENUE TO THE COMMISSIONERS, DIDN'T THEIR STAFF DID. OKAY. THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR WAS INVOLVED IN THE SPECS PROCESS. I TALKED TO THE COMMISSIONERS AS WELL TO A COUPLE OF THEM SINCE THAT CONVERSATION SINCE THE NEWS NEWSPAPER ARTICLE. YES. AND NOW, I THINK THIS IS WHEN WE REACHING OUT AS BOARD PRESIDENT WILL BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO COMMISSIONERS. YEAH. JUST LET THEM KNOW WHERE THINGS STAND. I WILL SPEAK WITH THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TOMORROW AS WELL AND DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR JUST LET THEM KNOW WHERE THINGS ARE. WITH THE RECOMMENDATION I THINK IT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION. AND THEY HAVE THIS ALL OF THIS INFORMATION AS WELL. OKAY, THANKS MEETING WITH HIM AND THEN I'LL GET BACK TO EACH OF YOU AS MY PEERS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WANT TO BE ON RECORD AND THANK THE BOTH TEAMS THAT ARE HERE THEY HAVE BEEN AN AWESOME GROUP OF PEOPLE TO WORK WITH AND I EXPECT THEM TO HOLD MY HANDS FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS [LAUGHTER], SO THEY'RE GREAT PEOPLE TO WORK WITH TEAMS HAVE BEEN AWESOME TO WORK WITH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH YEAH [LAUGHTER]. I JUST WANT TO ECHO THAT, MR. MENGEL, FOR THE SAME THING. THE TEAM HAS BEEN INCREDIBLE. WE APPRECIATE THE ATTENTION, THE TIME, THE UNDERSTANDING, AND ALSO REALLY THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE ENORMITY OF THIS DECISION THAT THE BOARD WILL HAVE TO BE THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISION BOARD PROBABLY WILL MAKE DURING THEIR TIME. MOST IMPACTFUL IN THE COMMUNITY FOR A WHILE TO COME. PROVIDE A GREAT INFORMATION FOR THEM TO CONSIDER. ESPECIALLY WITH THE TWO KIND OF THE TWO MENU OPTIONS THAT WERE AVAILABLE TO US TO LOOK AT FOR SITING THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR A SCHOOL. SO I APPRECIATE THE DILIGENCE AND ATTENTION INTO THAT TO, TO HELP MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION. AND I'M GLAD YOU PUT IN THE COMMUNITY SURVEY RESULTS, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT SPEAKS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY AND WE ARE MOVING ON TO FUTURE BOARD ITEMS. ITEMS FUTURE BOARD ACTION. I THINK THAT'S ALL FOR TONIGHT I THINK WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. JUST THIS [LAUGHTER]. YEAH, THAT'S A BIGGIE. YEAH. IS ANY UNFINISHED BUSINESS? AND WE HAVE A LISTING OF THE UPCOMING [9. Upcoming Meetings and Events] EVENTS FROM. YOUR BIRTHDAY STORY? THERE YOU GO YEAH, I READ IT, BUT I'M DRAWING A BLANK RIGHT NOW OKAY. NOT THAT FAR AWAY. NO! STOP IT! PLENTY OF TIME IF ANYONE CAN ATTEND THE LOCKERMAN ASSOCIATION LUNCHEON, THEY REALLY HAVE GONE OUT OF THE WAY IT'S A 95 YEAR CELEBRATION FOR THE BUILDING OF LOCKERMAN. SO THEY ARE PUTTING A LOT OF THEIR EFFORT IN THAT. IT'S GOING TO BE AT LOCKERMAN IN THE I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO USE THE GYMNASIUM, THE CATERED LUNCHEON. DO YOU KNOW WHAT? IT'S $11 YEP. SO IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED, LET ME KNOW I'LL BE GLAD TO GET YOU. [02:45:02] AND I THINK IT WOULD MEAN SOMETHING, CONSIDERING WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND YOU KNOW EVERYTHING. SO THE JUDY CENTER, OF COURSE, THAT'S ANOTHER BIG ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION. AND MAN, THE [INAUDIBLE] BREAKFAST IS ALREADY ON THE LIST. YEAH. IT'S JULY AND IT'S ALREADY AND OUR BOARD RETREAT, WHICH WE'RE LOOKING FOR. DO WE HAVE A LOCATION FOR THAT? DID WE? YEAH OKAY ALL RIGHT. PROBABLY POOL PARTY [LAUGHTER]. I'VE HEARD FLORIDA I'M NOT SURE IF THAT WAS TRUE AFTER ALL [LAUGHTER]. TWO OF FOUR FRANKLINS NOT SNAZZY ENOUGH IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHO YOU ARE [LAUGHTER]. THERE'S NO POOL HERE. NO. LET'S HOPE NOT. IF THERE EVER IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT SITUATION YEAH, THAT'S A DIFFERENT RENOVATION PROJECT. YEAH, SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN REACH OUT, GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU AND SEE WHICH POOL WE CAN FIND. OKAY. NO WORK SESSION IN JULY, CORRECT? NO WORK SESSION IN JULY. THAT'S YOUR VACATION [LAUGHTER]. AND OUR NEXT BOARD MEETING WILL BE AUGUST 5TH. YES OKAY THAT'S GREAT. NOW, RATHER THAN ADJOURN, WE ARE GOING TO RETURN TO CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS PERSONNEL MATTER. YOU NEED A MOTION? YES. I'LL MAKE A MOTION WE GO INTO CLOSED SESSION. SECOND. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.