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AND WE WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME EACH OF YOU TO THE MARCH 4TH BOARD OF EDUCATION MEETING.
[1. Opening Items]
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING. WELCOME TO THOSE WHO ARE WITH US VIA TECHNOLOGY.WE APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENDANCE AND AT THIS TIME WE NEED A.
MOTION THAT THE MEETING BE. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU AND WE WILL RECONVENE WITH OUR OPEN SESSION. I MOTION WE GO INTO OPEN SESSION.
I'LL SECOND IT. IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE GO INTO OPEN SESSION.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SO CARRIED. WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE ALL BOARD MEMBERS HERE THIS EVENING AND WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE EACH OF YOU AND WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THE FEDERALSBURG ELEMENTARY STUDENTS WHO ARE HERE TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. DON'T LEAVE YET.
LET US SEE THOSE PRETTY FACES. [INAUDIBLE]. HI, EVERYBODY.
OKAY. THESE GIRLS HAVE WORKED VERY HARD ALL FALL LEARNING TO LOVE THEMSELVES, WORK ON THEIR SELF-ESTEEM, CREATING A BOND AND A SISTERHOOD. SO FIRST WE HAVE MISS ALEXIS FLEET, AND WE HAVE MISS MARISSA HOCHSTER.
AND WE HAVE MELANIE MARSHALL. AND WE HAVE ORIANA JONES AND THEN WE HAVE MERCEDES FLEET.
GREAT. WELL, THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING WITH US TONIGHT AND SO WHAT'S BEEN THE BEST PART OF THE GIRLS EMPOWERMENT CLUB? WHAT HAVE YOU LIKED THE MOST? GO HERE FIRST, THEN HERE.
I LIKE TO SPEND TIME WITH ALL MY FRIENDS. GREAT.
THE AGREEMENTS. YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S AWESOME. AND DID YOU WANT TO SHARE THE BOND? OKAY. WONDERFUL. FANTASTIC. YES, MA'AM. I LIKE TELLING MY BIGGEST FEARS.
AWE. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S GREAT. I LOVE TO HEAR THAT AND CAN YOU TELL THEM THE THING THAT WE DO BEFORE AND AFTER GROUP? WHAT DO WE ALWAYS DO TOGETHER? TO START GROUP AND END GROUP? HOW ABOUT THIS YOUNG LADY? SHE HASN'T SPOKEN YET.
JUST TELL THEM WHAT WE DO. OUR AFFIRMATIONS. RIGHT? OH, YES. WE SAY AN AFFIRMATION PLEDGE BEFORE AND AFTER GROUP.
CAN WE HEAR IT? I AM. OKAY. ONE. TWO. THREE. I AM BEAUTIFUL.
I AM STRONG. I AM GOOD ENOUGH. I WILL CONQUER.
I WILL ACHIEVE MY GOALS. I AM INTELLIGENT, I AM TALENTED.
I AM CONFIDENT. OKAY. ANYTHING? I AM A GIRL, BOSS.
YES. THANK YOU GUYS FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT. PARENTS, THANK YOU FOR COMING AS WELL.
LADIES, YOU CAN'T GO TOO FAST. MISS BARRY WILL WANT A PICTURE.
Y'ALL JUST TURN RIGHT AROUND WHERE YOU ARE, AND THEN WE HAVE TO STAND UP AND LOOK AT ME FIRST.
SO LOOK THIS WAY, AND DON'T WE'LL MOVE. NO! THEY'RE COMING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT.
PARENTS. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THEM. [INAUDIBLE] .
I LIKE THAT AFFIRMATION. I KNOW I DID, TOO. YEAH, THAT WAS GOOD.
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YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT. NATIONAL WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH.YES IT IS. AT THIS TIME, WE NEED APPROVAL FOR OUR AGENDA FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING.
I MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING.
WHAT WE DO IN PARTNERSHIP WITH FAMILIES AND COMMUNITY.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS THIS EVENING? OKAY.
[2. Public Recognitions / Comment]
THANK YOU AND VANESSA, DO YOU HAVE A REPORT FOR US THIS EVENING? THAT STUDENT REPORTS OKAY. SO LAST MONTH AT THE PRESCHOOL, THEY HAD THEIR SWEETHEARTS ON THE 7TH. THEY CELEBRATED THE 100TH DAY OF SCHOOL.THEY HAD THEIR BOOK FAIR, AND THEN THEY HAD THEIR PARENT DAY [INAUDIBLE].
AND THEY'RE CONTINUING TO READ THEIR GOING TO BE READING ABOUT FRIENDSHIP, ACCORDING TO HUMPHREY.
COMING UP NEXT MONTH, THEY'LL HAVE LEGO AND SCIENCE CLUB MEETINGS MARCH 4TH, WHICH WAS TODAY, I THINK I SAW A PICTURE OF YOU. WAS IT YOU? POSSIBLY, YES.
I DON'T KNOW. IN A CLASSROOM OF KIDS, FOR HEAR THE CRUNCH DAY.
YES. THAT WAS YOU. IT'S A GOOD APPLE. GLAD YOU WERE.
YEAH. THIS WEEK IS READ ACROSS AMERICA WEEK. THEY'LL CELEBRATE SAINT PATRICK'S DAY WITH, LIKE, A THEMED BUDDY DAY. THEY'LL BE DOING SOME PLANNING.
THEIR PARENTS ARE DOING A SPRING FEST. MARCH 25TH WILL BE MARYLAND SPIRIT DAY, AND MARCH26TH WILL BE PICTURE DAY AT FEDERALSBURG ELEMENTARY. MISS BROGAN SAYS DESPITE THE CHILLY DAYS, WE EMBRACE THE COLD AND ENJOYED A WONDERFUL MONTH OF LEARNING IN FEBRUARY.
NOW WE EAGERLY WELCOME THE ARRIVAL OF SPRING.
LAST MONTH THEY HAD THEIR VALENTINES DANCE AND BOTH VALENTINE'S DANCES WERE REALLY GOOD.
I WAS AT BOTH BUT SAW YOU IN THOSE PICTURES. BUT FEDERALSBURG WAS SOMETHING ELSE.
SHE SAID IT WAS FOR 400 KIDS, CAME OUT WITH THEIR FAMILIES AND THEY GOT LIT LIKE.
TOO BAD THEY LEFT TOO SOON TO HEAR THAT. LAST MONTH THEY ALSO HAD THEIR EXPERT TEAM REVIEW.
WHAT WAS THAT? TEACHERS. OKAY, SO THE EXPERT TEAM CAME IN AND TEACHERS AND STUDENTS DEMONSTRATED, THEIR LEARNING AND GROWTH THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
COMING UP NEXT MONTH, DEVIN BECK WILL COME IN AND DO A HIP HOP EDUCATION PRESENTATION FOR THIRD AND FIFTH GRADERS AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE THEIR TITLE ONE READING NIGHT, WHERE THEY'LL REVEAL THEIR ONE SCHOOL, ONE BOOK SELECTION.
COLONEL METAL DOCTOR HOLLOWAY SAYS WE HAD SOME FUN IN FEBRUARY.
THEY HAD AN ANTI-VAPING ASSEMBLY, A CANDYLAND DANCE STAFF, VALENTINE'S TREATS.
SEVENTH GRADE WENT ON A FIELD TRIP TO THE JUNIOR ACHIEVEMENT PLACE.
THERE WAS A STUDENT VOICE SESSION. SO AN ENSEMBLE PERFORMED AND THE YOUTH LEADERSHIP INSTITUTE FACILITATED BY DOCTOR HOLLOWAY, MISS MYA ROBINSON, MISS CHARLENE SANDERS, AND MISS DEJA THOMPSON MET, AND THE GROUP IS FOCUSED ON BUILDING LEADERSHIP IN MIDDLE SCHOOL THROUGH COMMUNITY SERVICE PROJECTS. LAST MONTH AT COLONEL HIGH.
WE HAD. BASKETBALL PLAYOFFS, WRESTLING REGIONALS, TRACK REGIONALS, BASKETBALL, HOMECOMING CAREER TECHNICAL PRESENTATIONS, AND THE BLOOD DRIVE AND COMING UP THIS MONTH IS REALLY JUST SPRING SPORTS.
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[INAUDIBLE] I HAVE A MONSTROUS AMOUNT OF HOMEWORK. WE UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU, BE SAFE.GOING HOME. OKAY AND WE'RE GOING TO MOVE RIGHT ALONG TO SOMETHING REALLY GOOD.
WE HAVE SOME TEACHERS WHO HAVE EARNED THEIR NATIONAL BOARD CERTIFICATION.
YES. SO MRS. MULLIGAN WILL BE DOING THE RECOGNITION TONIGHT, WHICH IS EXCITING.
I'M JUST GOING TO GO IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER. COURTNEY BLIZZARD.
YES, PLEASE. COURTNEY IS FROM PRESTON ELEMENTARY.
NO SMALL FEAT. ANDREW BUFFENMEYER ANDREW'S AT NORTH CAROLINE HIGH SCHOOL.
HIS CERTIFICATION IS IN SOCIAL STUDIES AND HISTORY.
ADOLESCENCE THROUGH YOUNG ADULT. THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS.
DON'T GO ANYWHERE. OKAY. YEAH. YOU GUYS WILL HAVE TO COME UP FOR A PICTURE.
YEAH. ASHLEY IRELAND. ASHLEY IS THE MOST ORGANIZED WOMAN I'VE EVER MET.
SHE'S FROM PRESTON ELEMENTARY, AND HER CERTIFICATION AREA IS GENERALIST EARLY CHILDHOOD.
AND I TELL YOU, THE TEST FOR THAT IS LIKE, THE MANUAL IS LIKE A PHONE BOOK.
IT'S CRAZY. KIM [INAUDIBLE] MRS. MIELKE IS AT NORTH CAROLINE HIGH SCHOOL, AND HER CERTIFICATION IS ENGLISH LANGUAGE ARTS. ADOLESCENCE AND YOUNG ADULTHOOD. CONGRATULATIONS.
CHRISTINE MORAN. WE HAVE WE ARE WELL REPRESENTED IN ENGLISH AND EXCEPTIONAL NEEDS.
CHRISTINE IS ALSO AT NORTH CAROLINE HIGH SCHOOL, AND HER CERTIFICATION IS ALSO.
CONGRATULATIONS. ENGLISH LANGUAGE ARTS, ADOLESCENCE AND YOUNG ADULTHOOD.
AMY [INAUDIBLE] WAS I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE HER.
SHE WAS CERTIFIED LAST YEAR. TAYLOR THOMPSON.
TAYLOR IS AT COLONEL RICHARDSON HIGH SCHOOL. SHE MANAGED TO DO THIS OVER TWO DIFFERENT SCHOOLS.
YEAH. SHE IS SOCIAL STUDIES HISTORY. ADOLESCENCE AND YOUNG ADULTHOOD.
CONGRATULATIONS. AND THAT IS OUR OUR ROSTER. CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU ALL.
SO WE'RE UP TO 12 NATIONALLY BOARD CERTIFIED TEACHERS IN THE DISTRICT, AND INCLUDING MAYOR BRADNER, KEVIN WEBSTER, DOCTOR WILLOUGHBY, AND JANINE NECESSARY AT LOCKERMAN.
WE HAVE POSSIBLE 27 MORE THAT WILL HAVE EARNED.
THEY WILL HAVE COMPLETED ALL THE COMPONENTS, AND THEY'LL HAVE SOME WONDERFUL COMPANY UP HERE.
SO CONGRATULATIONS, GUYS. YES. THE OTHER PERSON WHO IS NOT HERE, WHO IS ALSO A NATIONALLY BOARD CERTIFIED, IS CHRISTINE NEVILLE. SHE WORKS AS A LIAISON.
SHE'S BEEN A WONDERFUL SUPPORT. COMES IN ON SATURDAYS AFTER SCHOOL EVENINGS.
ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. CAN WE PLEASE HAVE YOU TO COME UP AND BRING YOUR CERTIFICATES? YEAH AND AS THEY'RE COMING, JUST HATS OFF BIG TIME.
IT'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK THAT YOU ALL HAVE PUT IN AND DEDICATED.
IT'S NOT EASY. WE KNOW THAT. THAT'S ALSO WHY THERE ARE ONLY 12 IN THE DISTRICT RIGHT NOW.
SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR THAT. OKAY. THESE GUYS ARE A LITTLE TALLER.
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GOOD.CONGRATULATIONS.[INAUDIBLE]. IT IS FAT TUESDAY. YOU KNOW. OKAY, WE'LL CONTINUE WITH
[3. Consent Agenda]
DOCTOR WILLOUGHBY. WITH THE PERSONNEL.OKAY. AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO APPROVAL OF OUR MINUTES FROM THE FEBRUARY 4TH OPEN SESSION. I CAN MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA IN TOTAL, IF THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S GOOD. OKAY. SORRY ABOUT THAT.
THAT'S OKAY. GOTCHA. OKAY. YEAH. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? OKAY. SO WE NEED THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR FEBRUARY 4TH.
SHE WENT AND GOT THEM ALL TOGETHER. SHE HAD THEM ALL AS A WHOLE FOR YOU.
OKAY AND WE HAVE INDIVIDUAL ACTION ITEMS. RETIREMENT OF POLICIES, DOCTOR WILLOUGHBY.
[4. Individual Action Items]
DOCTOR WILLOUGHBY WILL BE UP FOR A LITTLE BIT. YEAH.THEY USUALLY ARE GROUPED BY DEPARTMENT THIS MONTH.
IT GETS TO BE MY DEPARTMENT. SO THESE ARE PERSONNEL POLICIES THAT WE HAVE ON THE BOOKS.
AND MANY OF THESE AND YOU CAN SEE THE LIST IN FRONT OF YOU.
ARE THESE ONES ARE RECOMMENDED FOR RETIREMENT AND I CAN WALK THROUGH EACH ONE OF THEM.
I THINK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM IS EITHER A 1989 OR A 1994 POLICY.
EMPLOYEE ABSENCE AND SUBSTITUTE RECORD TALKS ABOUT HOW FOLKS TAKE LEAVE FROM THE BOARD OF ED.
THAT IS HANDLED THROUGH OUR NEGOTIATED AGREEMENTS WITH OUR UNIONS.
NUMBER THREE LOOKS A LITTLE WEIRD JUST ON THE SURFACE.
WHY AM I RETIRING THE FAIR PRACTICES EMPLOYMENT POLICY.
IT'S BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE A NONDISCRIMINATION POLICY THAT COVERS EMPLOYEES AND THAT THE SAME PROVISIONS ARE IN THE NONDISCRIMINATION POLICY THAT COVERS EMPLOYEES AND STUDENTS. 4130 IS LEAVING FOR SUMMER SCHOOL FOR THE OFFICIAL CLOSING OF THE SCHOOL YEAR.
THIS IS A POLICY THAT SAYS THAT TEACHERS CAN'T LEAVE FOR SUMMER SCHOOL, FOR SCHOOL YEAR'S OVER.
SO THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A MINUTE. LEAVE FOR SUMMER SCHOOL.
WE TEACH SUMMER SCHOOL. WE TEACH OUR OWN SUMMER SCHOOL.
WE DON'T HAVE TO LEAVE FOR SUMMER SCHOOL. I THINK THIS WAS WRITTEN IF YOU GO BACK AND DIG THAT THEY WERE ACTUALLY GOING TO LEAVE TO GO TAKE COURSES IN THE SUMMER SEMESTER, WHICH IS JUST NOT A THING ANYMORE. AND OBVIOUSLY IF THEY WERE GOING TO LEAVE FOR SOME PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO USE TIME IN ACCORDANCE WITH LEAVE BANKS AND THINGS THAT ARE UNDER THE NEGOTIATED AGREEMENT, WHERE WE DO HAVE TEACHERS THAT ARE CHOSEN, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR AP SCORING AND SOME OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE SOMETIMES COVER THAT WITH PROFESSIONAL LEAVE. WE MAKE ARRANGEMENTS.
SO YOU KNOW, THAT THAT KIND OF IS OUTDATED PROVISIONAL CONTRACT.
AS A POLICY, THE PROVISIONAL CONTRACT IS A MATTER OF COMMON AND STATE LAW.
ACTUALLY, THE CONTRACT ITSELF IS VERBATIM FROM COMA.
IT TELLS US WHAT MUST BE IN IT AND THEN TRAVEL REIMBURSEMENT FOR ADMINISTRATORS AND SUPERVISORS.
THIS IS HANDLED THROUGH THE MOU. THERE IS A, FOR SUPERVISORS THAT HAVE IN-COUNTY TRAVEL.
SO LIKE I SAID, THESE ARE ALL 1989 OR 1994. ALL THIS LANGUAGE IS WITHIN EITHER THE NEGOTIATED
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AGREEMENTS OR THE EMPLOYEE HANDBOOK AND GOVERNED OUTSIDE OF POLICY.THAT'S THE REASON FOR ASKING FOR THEIR RETIREMENT QUESTIONS.
BOARD MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS? THEN CAN WE HAVE A MOTION THAT WE.
I GUESS WE NEED TO. YOU COULD ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OR YOU COULD DO THEM ONE AT A TIME EITHER.
NO, I THINK WE CAN DO THEM AS A WHOLE. YEAH.
I'LL SECOND IT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? SO, CARRY.
THANK YOU, DOCTOR WILLOUGHBY. ABSOLUTELY. FOR ITEM 4.02, THIS IS THE POLICY THAT WAS UP FOR REVIEW FROM MY DEPARTMENT THAT I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULD RETIRE. THAT ACTUALLY JUST NEEDED A LITTLE BIT OF POLISH AND REVISION.
THIS IS DATING SEXUAL RELATIONS AND INAPPROPRIATE RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN STAFF AND STUDENTS.
SO FOR OBVIOUS REASONS, WE'RE NOT RETIRING THAT ONE.
WE'RE KEEPING THAT ON AND ACTUALLY BRINGING IT UP TO DATE.
AGAIN, THIS IS A 1994 WAS THE LAST TIME THIS WAS LOOKED AT.
THE SPIRIT OF THIS IS THE SAME. THE SPIRIT OF THIS IS WE DON'T DO IT AND IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE AND IF YOU DO IT, THERE'S GOING TO BE PRETTY HARSH CONSEQUENCES WHERE THIS HAS BEEN REVISED.
IS NUMBER ONE TO BRING IT INTO FORMATTING AS WHAT OUR POLICIES HAVE BEEN.
NUMBER TWO, TO EXPAND SOME OF THE DEFINITIONS TO INCLUDE ELECTRONIC MEDIA AND TEXTING AND THINGS THAT JUST WEREN'T THERE IN 1994. UNDER IMPLEMENTATION. GUIDELINES.
THERE ARE THREE ITEMS UNDER IMPLEMENTATION GUIDELINES THAT WERE NOT THERE IN THE PREVIOUS POLICY.
AND THEN THE SECOND PIECE OF THAT TALKS ABOUT HOW IT WILL BE DISCIPLINED.
SO JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON WHAT HAPPENS IF SOMEONE WOULD WOULD VIOLATE IT.
ONE THING I DO WANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT YOU KNOW, WORDS LIKE SHALL, MAY AND ANY ARE STRONG WORDS.
AND SO THIS IS ANY EMPLOYEE OF CAROLINE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
AND SO YOU HAVE TO PAUSE FOR JUST A MINUTE. WE ARE IN THE WORLD OF STUDENT INTERNS AND STUDENT APPRENTICES, AND THEY ARE EMPLOYEES OF CAROLINE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
SO THE JUNIOR AND HIGH SCHOOL THAT INTERNS FOR US OVER THE SUMMER CAN CONTINUE TO DATE THEIR HIGH SCHOOL CLASSMATE, EVEN THOUGH. BUT WHEN YOU WRITE A POLICY FOR ANY EMPLOYEE, IT REALLY DOES MEAN ANY, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO WE WANT TO GO AND CARVE THAT OUT AND JUST BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT.
SO YOU DO SEE A CARVE OUT FOR THAT EMPLOYEE. AND THAT IS THE REASON FOR THAT.
THAT LANGUAGE ACTUALLY WAS IN OUR EXISTING POLICY AND SO WE CARRY IT FORWARD HERE.
BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE NOTE OF THAT. SO THIS IS JUST AN UPDATE AND A POLISH.
I BRING IT TO YOU FOR A SINGLE READ AND POTENTIAL ADOPTION BECAUSE THE INTENT OF THE POLICY, THE SPIRIT OF THE POLICY DOES NOT CHANGE. IT IS JUST BRINGING IT UP TO DATE AND CLARIFYING SOME OF THE IMPLEMENTATION GUIDELINES THAT ARE INCLUDED IN IT AND NEED IT TO BE ABSOLUTELY UP TO DATE. SURE.
YES. ANY QUESTIONS FROM BOARD MEMBERS ON? I THINK WE'LL VOTE ON EACH OF THESE SEPARATELY. WHAT'S THIS ONE? THIS IS JUST ONE.
OKAY. YEAH. I'LL MOTION THAT WE APPROVE.
WAS IT THE REVISIONS TO POLICY 4.02? ONE SECOND.
IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY, THEN WE WILL MOVE ON TO 4.03, WHICH IS THE DRESS CODE.
I GOTTA SAY, I'VE LOST THE AGENDA HERE, SO THERE WE GO.
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ALL RIGHT, SO JOINING ME AT THE PODIUM IS MR. HOWIE. I'M NOT GOING FAR. SO LAST MONTH, WAS LAST MONTH WAS IT? YEAH, IT WAS JANUARY MEETING. THAT WAS NOT. IT WAS TWO WEEKS DELAYED.WE BROUGHT FOR YOU FOR A FIRST READING POLICY.
THREE 3140 REVISIONS. AND THIS WAS A UPDATE OF THE DRESS CODE POLICY TO COINCIDE WITH ALSO THE THE PUBLISHING OF A NEW REGULATION.
I THINK THAT WAS ACTUALLY THE SUGGESTION TO PUT IT OUT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. WE DID THAT.
SO THAT'S WHY IT'S COMING TO YOU TONIGHT FOR SECOND READING. IT DID RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
MR. HOWIE, IS GOING TO WALK THROUGH PUBLIC COMMENT.
I WILL SAY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME FROM THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND THAT I'LL JUST REITERATE IN SORT OF MY INTRODUCTION, IS POLICY VERSUS REGULATION. A POLICY IN THE WAY THAT WE HAVE BEEN UPDATING OUR POLICIES FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS IN THIS FASHION AND, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THIS YEAR, WE'LL BE ALMOST HALFWAY DONE.
THERE'S 126 BOARD POLICIES. WE'VE RETIRED A BUNCH, BUT WE'RE CHIPPING AWAY AT THEM.
A POLICY IS A BROAD STATEMENT OF BOARD BELIEFS.
A REGULATION GETS MORE SPECIFIC ONTO HOW TO IMPLEMENT THAT POLICY.
SO WHEN WE PUT THE POLICY REVISION OUT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, MR. HOWIE WILL BE ABLE TO SAY A LOT OF COMMENTS OF LIKE, WELL, I WANT TO KNOW THE SPECIFICS.
UNDERSTOOD. YOU PUT THE POLICY OUT. YOU WRITE THE REGULATION FOR HOW TO IMPLEMENT THE POLICY, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. SO THE POLICY HAS GONE OUT FOR THAT PUBLIC COMMENT.
THE POLICY DOES NOW KIND OF CONFORM TO THESE BROAD BELIEFS AND BROAD STATEMENTS OF WHAT THE BOARD SAYS IS APPROPRIATE AND THEN UNDER THE SUPERINTENDENT'S DIRECTION, REGULATIONS ARE WRITTEN TO DICTATE HOW TO IMPLEMENT THE POLICY.
THERE IS A DRAFT REGULATION THAT IS INCLUDED.
WE BROUGHT YOU THE POLICY AND THE REGULATION JUST SO YOU COULD KIND OF SEE HOW IT IT FIT TOGETHER.
SO YOU HAVE THE POLICY THAT IS THOSE BROAD STATEMENTS OF WHAT WE BELIEVE.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE PROPOSED REGULATION, WHICH IS AN UPDATE.
AND SOME INCLUSION OF THINGS FROM CURRENT POLICY, SOME CLARIFICATION OF THINGS FROM CURRENT POLICY.
THE INTENTION HERE IS ESPECIALLY IN SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
AS A FORMER MIDDLE SCHOOL PRINCIPAL, I CAN TELL YOU WHAT THE TRENDS AND FADS ARE WHEN SCHOOL CLOSES. THEY MIGHT BE DIFFERENT FROM WHEN SCHOOL OPENS.
THEY MIGHT BE DIFFERENT IN JANUARY AND SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO DEAL WITH THAT, ESPECIALLY IF. AND I'M JUST I'LL SHOW MY AGE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE I CAN'T BELIEVE I JUST SAID THAT.
I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THE YOUNG GUY, BUT I JUST SAID THAT [INAUDIBLE].
I NEED A MOMENT. BUT, YOU KNOW, AT ONE POINT, YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER WHEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, EVERY WALLET NEEDED TO HAVE A CHAIN HANGING FROM IT. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? NOT JUST A CHAIN.
THAT WASN'T A THING WHEN THE SCHOOL YEAR STARTED. THAT WASN'T A THING, YOU KNOW? BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN, AND IT'S LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE, THAT'S A SAFETY CONCERN.
WE NEED TO DEAL WITH THAT. HAVING IT IN THIS FORMAT, WHICH IS HOW WE DO MOST OF OUR OTHER POLICIES, ALLOWS FOR THE REGULATION TO BE CHANGED, TO ADAPT WITHOUT COMING THROUGH A POLICY REVISION THROUGH THE BOARD.
THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THAT WOULD BE USED. AND SO THAT WAS VERY EVIDENT IN THE FEEDBACK.
AND MR. HOWIE WILL WALK THROUGH THAT. SO I JUST WANT TO KIND OF USE THAT IN THE INTRODUCTION.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO HIM. BUT THAT IS WHY THIS LOOKS THE WAY IT LOOKS.
BUT IF YOU REALLY GO BACK AND YOU LOOK AT OTHER POLICIES THAT WE'VE BROUGHT, PRE-K ENROLLMENT INCLEMENT WEATHER CLOSINGS THAT WE UPDATED, I THINK JUST A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, VERY BROAD POLICIES, VERY SPECIFIC REGULATIONS AND THAT'S WHY THAT SPLIT IS THERE TO BE ABLE WHEN YOU HAVE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE ADAPTED IN TIME, TO BE ABLE TO ADAPT THEM IN A TIMELY WAY? I KNOW THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS BECAUSE A LOT OF ATTENTION AND I FEEL IT EVEN THOUGH I'M NOT ENFORCING A DRESS CODE ANYMORE, I FEEL IT. BUT JUST THAT KIND OF REMINDER THAT IF YOU LOOK BACK AT POLICIES THAT HAVE COME FIRST BEFORE,
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IT'S THE SAME FORMAT. IT'S JUST THIS ONE. I THINK IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.LAST UPDATED IN 2001. SO THE CHANGES LOOK LIKE THEY ARE DRASTIC AND JUST GENERAL REFORMATTING OF THIS PARTICULAR POLICY LOOKS A LITTLE DRASTIC BECAUSE IT'S BEEN SO LONG.
SO, MR. HOWIE, THERE YOU GO. THERE'S YOUR INTRODUCTION.
THANKS A LOT. SO TO SUMMARIZE THAT, I THINK WE HAVE TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT AS DOCTOR SIMMONS LIKES TO TELL US, THE POLICY IS THE WHAT AND THE WHY, AND THEN THE REGULATION IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO IMPLEMENT IT.
AND THE RATIONALE IS WHEN YOU HAVE THINGS THAT ARE EMOTIONAL OR ELICIT A LOT OF PASSION OR RESPONSE, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO ASK YOU AS BOARD MEMBERS TO HEAR THAT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AS THE FADS CHANGE, I.E. YOU CAN'T HAVE A HOLE IN YOUR JEANS. GOOD LUCK FINDING THEM AT A STORE NOW THAT DON'T HAVE HOLES IN THEM.
YOU KNOW IT'S LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT CHANGE.
SO I'LL GO OVER THE PROCESS WE WENT THROUGH. JUST TO KIND OF QUICKLY RECAP, WE STARTED THIS PROCESS IN 23, 24 WHERE YOU HAD SOME VERY PASSIONATE STAKEHOLDERS COME FORWARD, PRESENTED A LOT OF RESEARCH AND DATA, MAINLY CENTERED AROUND THE FACT THAT MOST ANTIQUATED DRESS CODES AND 20 PLUS YEARS BEFORE YOU REVIEW IT WOULD QUALIFY AS ANTIQUATED TEND TO TARGET FEMALE STUDENTS MUCH MORE HEAVILY THAN MALE STUDENTS.
AND THAT WAS EVIDENT IN THE LANGUAGE THAT IS IN THE CURRENT POLICY.
SO WE DID SOME ADDITIONAL UPDATES AND SURVEYED SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS OVER THE SUMMER TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS WORKING, WHAT'S NOT, WHAT THEY FELT WAS ENFORCEABLE, WHAT WAS A SAFETY CONCERN, WHAT REALLY BENEFITED THE SCHOOL ENVIRONMENT AND WHAT DID NOT.
WE REVIEWED THAT AGAIN WITH THE ADMINISTRATORS AND SUPERVISORS.
THEN WE STARTED REVIEWING WITH STAKEHOLDERS. I MET WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS WHO DID THE PRESENTATION.
MET WITH THE SIC AND CAC. PLEASE DON'T ASK ME WHAT ALL THOSE ACRONYMS ARE AND THEN BROUGHT FORWARD TO THE BOARD WHERE WE MADE THE SOUND DECISION TO PUT IT OUT FOR SOME ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT, WHICH WE RECEIVED.
I RECEIVED 15 FORWARDED EMAILS. ALMOST OVERWHELMINGLY BROUGHT UP TWO POINTS, WANTING TO KEEP THE UNDULY REVEALING COMMENT IN THE POLICY ITSELF, WHICH WE MADE THE REVISION TO INCLUDE THAT THE SUGGESTIONS THAT CAME FROM CAC AND CAC TALKED ABOUT MAKING IT UNIVERSAL FOR ALL STUDENTS INSTEAD OF SEPARATING NECESSARILY ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE, WHICH WE REVISED AND DID AS WELL AND THEN MAKING SURE THAT THE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD NOTED AS NOT BEING APPROPRIATE FOR SCHOOL WERE STILL NOT JUST REMOVED, THEY WERE REMOVED FROM THE POLICY TO THE REGULATION, WHICH IS WHY WE FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO PROVIDE BOTH AT THE SAME TIME.
SO AGAIN, THIS WAS THE DEFINITION DIRECTLY FROM OUR DRESS CODE.
THE STUDENT GROUPS WERE ACTUALLY VERY SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT WAS SUGGESTED.
SURPRISINGLY, THEY WERE VERY ADAMANT ABOUT KEEPING THE UNDULY REVEALING COMMENTS IN THE IN THE POLICY AND BASICALLY HAD A VERY GOOD UNDERSTANDING AND A COMMON SENSE KIND OF APPROACH TO WHAT WAS WHAT THE DRESS CODE WAS, AND DID NOT HAVE VERY MANY CONCERNS WITH WHAT WAS PRESENTED.
SO AGAIN, WE REVIEWED IT, RECOGNIZED WE NEED TO FORMALLY UPDATE IT.
WE PRESENTED TO THE BOARD WE WANT TO REVIEW THAT POLICY.
SO THEN AGAIN, WE CAME BACK JULY, AUGUST WENT THROUGH ALL THOSE STEPS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, MAKING SURE WE WERE ELICITING DIFFERENT FEEDBACK FROM DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDER GROUPS TO MAKE SURE WE HAD TRIED TO HEAR EVERY VOICE THAT WE COULD.
AGAIN, WE APPLIED THOSE ADDITIONALLY SUGGESTED FEEDBACKS BROUGHT THAT BACK TO SCC AND CAC.
THIS IS KIND OF REHASHING SOME OF WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE.
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WE WILL HAVE CONSISTENT IMPLEMENTATION ACROSS ALL CSPS SCHOOLS TO START IN THE FALL.IN OTHER WORDS, MUCH LIKE WE'VE DONE WITH OTHER POLICIES THAT DIRECTLY IMPACT STUDENT ACTIVITY AND STUDENT EXPERIENCE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CLEAR, WE COMMUNICATE IT, AND WE PREPARE OUR STUDENTS AND FAMILIES FOR WHAT THOSE EXPECTATIONS WILL BE GOING FORWARD. SO SOME OF THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED, THERE WERE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT WANTED TO SEE UNIFORMS BROUGHT UP.
THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DRESS CODE PREPARED STUDENTS FOR WORK EXPECTATIONS.
CLOTHING SHOULD NOT BE REVEALING. THEY WANTED CLARIFICATION BETWEEN POLICY AND REGULATION, WHICH WE'VE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT A LOT TONIGHT.
THEY WANTED TO SEE SOME CONSISTENCY ACROSS LEVELS, I.E.
MAINLY TALKING ABOUT MIDDLE TO HIGH SCHOOL. CLEAR INFORMATION BEFORE THE START OF THE SCHOOL YEAR.
AS IT JUST STATED. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. YOU DON'T CHANGE THE RULES MID-YEAR AND EXPECT TO HAVE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHY STUDENTS GENERALLY WERE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE PROPOSED CHANGES. THEY STILL FELT THAT THE CURRENT POLICY TARGETED FEMALE STUDENTS MORE THAN MALE STUDENTS.
THEY DO NOT WANT UNIFORMS. THEY WERE VERY ADAMANT ABOUT THAT.
THEY ALSO WERE VERY ADAMANT THAT THEY WANT PEOPLE TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE WHEN THEY VIOLATE THE DRESS CODE, WHICH WAS A SURPRISING STANCE FROM TEENAGERS, QUITE FRANKLY. THEY WANTED CONSIDERATION OF HATS AND HOODS AND THERE IS A VARIETY OF REASONS WHY MOST SCHOOL DRESS CODES ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF THOSE.
AND THEY WANTED CONSIDERATION FOR CTE PROGRAMS, WHICH IS REFLECTED IN THE LANGUAGE.
FOR INSTANCE, IF ANY OF YOU HAVE CHILDREN NOW? I'M SURE SOME OF THEM OWN CROCS AND REGARDLESS OF WHAT PEOPLE MAY THINK, FLIPPING THE THING ON THE BACK TO PUT IT IN SPORTS MODE DOESN'T MAGICALLY MAKE A STEEL TOE BOOT OUT OF THAT SHOE. HOWEVER, THAT MAY BE APPROPRIATE TO GO TO ENGLISH CLASS OR MATH CLASS.
IT WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE IF YOU'RE IN THE WELDING PROGRAM.
SO THERE ARE ALSO OTHER PROGRAMS WHERE WEARING A HAT OR EYEGLASSES OR EYE GEAR WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, AND THOSE SHOULD BE RESPECTIVE TO THE ENVIRONMENT THAT A STUDENT IS IN.
AND WE REFLECTED THAT IN THE CHANGES WE MADE WITHOUT BEING OVERLY SPECIFIC.
ANY QUESTIONS? [INAUDIBLE] GOING THROUGH THE POLICY, ARE YOU GOING TO READ THROUGH THAT PART FIRST OR CAN I ASK ABOUT THAT NOW? OKAY. WELL, JUST IN LOOKING AT IT, MY ONE QUESTION WAS WHERE IT SAYS STUDENTS SHALL NOT WEAR CLOTHING THAT IS UNDULY REVEALING. THE DETERMINATION OF WHETHER CLOTHING IS APPROPRIATE WILL BE MADE BY THE ADMINISTRATOR.
WHAT KIND OF GUIDELINES DOES THAT ADMINISTRATOR HAVE? BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THAT WILL PROBABLY LOOK DIFFERENT WITH EACH ADMINISTRATOR.
SO WHAT KIND OF GUIDELINES DO THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW WITH SO MUCH BEING STRUCK FROM? SO AS A FORMER HIGH SCHOOL PRINCIPAL AND MIDDLE SCHOOL TEACHER, THIS IS A CONSTANT BATTLE FOR ADMINISTRATORS AND THE REALITY IS, THE EXACT SAME PIECE OF CLOTHING WILL NOT LOOK THE SAME ON DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
WE'RE BUILT DIFFERENTLY. THERE ARE CHALLENGES WITH THAT.
ESSENTIALLY, WE DON'T WANT TO SEE UNDERGARMENTS AND WE DON'T WANT TO SEE BARE MIDRIFFS.
IF YOU LOOK IN THE REGULATION UNDER ITEM A, UNDER NUMERAL SEVEN, WHICH IS THE LAST PAGE OF THE REGULATION, STUDENTS SHOULD NOT WEAR CLOTHING THAT IS UNDULY REVEALING, MEANING THE MIDRIFF, MIDRIFF, UNDERGARMENTS, AND POSTERIOR MAY NOT BE VISIBLE OR UNCOVERED.
SLEEVELESS GARMENTS MUST FIT CLOSELY UNDER THE ARMS. TERMINATION. WHETHER SHORT SKIRTS AND DRESSES, INCLUDING SLITS OR APPROPRIATE LENGTH MADE BY THE ADMINISTRATION BASED ON THE ABOVE. OKAY, FOR THOSE WHO HAVE MAY HAVE SHORTER CHILDREN OR THOSE WHO ARE TALLER, THE INSEAM MEASUREMENTS AND THOSE THINGS JUST DON'T WORK AND FRANKLY, I DON'T WANT MY ADMINISTRATORS PULLING OUT A TAPE MEASURE AND TRYING TO MEASURE SOMEBODY'S INSEAM.
I'M MORE CONCERNED IF AN ADMINISTRATOR IS TRYING.
EXACTLY. I TALKED TO SOME MALE TEACHERS AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HAD ASKED THEM, LIKE, HOW DO YOU GUYS ADDRESS THIS? AND THEY'RE LIKE, WE DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE DOING IT BECAUSE ARE THEY GOING TO PULL ASIDE A MIDDLE SCHOOL GIRL AND TELL HER THAT SOMETHING'S SHOWING TOO MUCH? SO IT'S JUST THAT'S HARD, YOU KNOW? BUT WHICH IS WHY WE WANT THAT TO BE THE ADMINISTRATORS RESPONSIBILITY.
FROM A TEACHER PERSPECTIVE, IF I SEE OR FEEL SOMETHING IS INAPPROPRIATE, THE PROPER THING TO DO WOULD BE NOTIFIED THE ADMINISTRATION TO ALLOW THEM TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION BASED ON THE POLICY. AND I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU, THERE WERE TIMES AS AN ADMINISTRATOR WHERE I DIDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE. SO WHAT I DID WAS I SAW THE CONFERENCE OF A FEMALE ADMINISTRATOR TO ASSIST.
AND EVERYONE HAS TO USE THEIR PROFESSIONAL JUDGMENT IN THOSE KIND OF SITUATIONS.
YEAH. SO WHEN YOU ASK THAT QUESTION WITH THE POLICY AND YOU SAY, WELL, HOW DO THE ADMINISTRATORS,
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HOW DO THEY WHAT DO THEY USE AS A GUIDELINE? THAT'S WHAT THE REGULATION IS FOR.SO THEY CAN HAVE INPUT IN THAT LANGUAGE AND IN THE WAY THAT DIRECTION WAS PROVIDED IN THAT ONE, I JUST. THAT MAKES SENSE. I JUST DIDN'T I WAS LIKE, MAN, THAT WOULD BE STRESSFUL AS AN ADMINISTRATOR TO HAVE TO BE LIKE TO MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION AND THEN I NOTICED TOO, WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT THINGS IN REGARDS TO LIKE RACIST AND PREJUDICE.
SO THAT'LL BE ANOTHER THING. GOOD LUCK TO THE ADMINISTRATION TO DECIDE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BECAUSE, I MEAN, THOSE TWO ARE OBVIOUSLY VERY OBVIOUS SPECIFIC THINGS MENTIONED.
BUT AND THOSE WERE THE AREAS THAT IT WAS FELT STRONGLY BY EVERYONE INVOLVED THAT THEY NEEDED TO REMAIN IN THE POLICY SO THAT THEY WERE A LITTLE BIT MORE DIRECT. MOST PEOPLE KNOW IT WHEN THEY SEE IT, AND IT'S REALLY THE OVERT THINGS THAT WE'RE SPEAKING OF IN THAT MEASURE.
WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY. WE DON'T WANT TO STIFLE ANYONE'S FREEDOM OF SPEECH OR CREATIVITY.
SO COULD THERE BE OTHER THINGS INCLUDED IN THAT? NOT NECESSARILY THOSE. I KNOW IT'S NOT. IT DOESN'T SAY LIMIT IT TO THOSE. BUT SINCE THOSE WERE MENTIONED SPECIFICALLY, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE THESE ARE JUST THINGS I'VE HEARD JUST IN THE WORLD, LIKE WHEN SOMEBODY WEARS A BLACK LIVES MATTER SHIRT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CONSIDER THAT RACIST, YOU KNOW? BUT HOW DO YOU DETERMINE LIKE, I JUST I WISH THEM LUCK.
I SUPPORT THIS I'M NOT SAYING I DON'T. I'M JUST THINKING LIKE, IF YOU WERE A DONALD TRUMP SHIRT, LIKE, I'VE HEARD PEOPLE GET IN FIGHTS BECAUSE OF THAT. LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S CRAZY TO PLAN FOR EVERY PERSPECTIVE OR EVERY HYPOTHETICAL THAT COULD ARISE.
WE WOULD NOT ADDRESS THAT. HOWEVER, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT SOMEONE MAY NOT FEEL THAT WAY.
GENERALLY, WHEN WE'RE SPEAKING OF THINGS OF THIS NATURE, THEY'RE VERY, WELL DOCUMENTED AND UNIVERSALLY PERCEIVED AS BEING DEROGATORY AND THAT'S KIND OF THE BAROMETER THAT WE USE WHEN WE LOOK AT THINGS LIKE THAT.
THERE ARE CERTAIN ITEMS OR ISSUES THAT ARE UNIVERSALLY ACCEPTED AS BEING INAPPROPRIATE.
THAT'S FINE. I'M A NEWBIE HERE. I'M JUST ASKING, OH NO, I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE GOOD, THEY'RE GOOD.
AND THEN YOU HAD TO HAVE SOME THOUGHT PARTNERS. ABSOLUTELY.
THAT IS THE COALITION OF THE OTHER ADMINISTRATORS AND THE DIRECTOR OF STUDENT SERVICES.
SO IF THERE'S ANYONE WHO'S IT'S NOT BLATANT, BUT THERE'S SOME IMPLIED YOU KNOW, DEROGATORY IMPLICATIONS, THEN THEY KNOW THEIR CHAIN OF COMMAND OR THE COMMUNICATION WAY THAT THEY'LL USE TO DRAW ON EACH OTHER AND IF THEY REALLY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE NOT GETTING CONSISTENCY, THEN THEY'LL CONTRACT IT. THAT'S FAIR. I WAS JUST THINKING THAT ONE ADMINISTRATOR HAS TO DO THAT. BUT IF THEY'VE GOT A TEAM SUPPORT THAT HELPS.
ABSOLUTELY. AND THERE ARE TIMES WHEN THE BUCK STOPS THERE.
AND WHEN THEY'RE UNCOMFORTABLE AND YOU THINK THAT IT CAN'T, THEN IT'S GOING TO BE COMING TO ME.
AND IF I CAN'T MAKE THAT. I'M GOING TO BE SPEAKING TO DOCTOR DOWNS OR DOCTOR SYDNEY.
SO OKAY HOPEFULLY WE WON'T HAVE TOO MANY ISSUES WITH THAT WHAT WE ENCOUNTER, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, MOST PEOPLE ARE FAIRLY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THEY DEEM AS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE.
I'M SURE. MRS. MARK'S HAD SOME QUESTIONS. MY FIRST ONE IS PROBABLY EASY.
JUST WORD SEMANTICS FOR ME. SO RELATED TO THE HATS, CAPS AND VISORS, BANDANAS, ETC.
THING. THE LAST LINE FOR ME IS A LITTLE UNCLEAR.
IT SAYS THIS INCLUDES SPIRIT WEEK, CELEBRATORY ACTIVITIES DURING THE SCHOOL DAY.
DOES THAT MEAN THAT ARE WE TRYING TO SAY THERE THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO PERMIT THOSE ANYMORE, OR THAT PERMISSION MUST BE DOCUMENTED? I THINK WE COULD CLEAR. THE CLARIFICATION THAT IS, SIMPLY PUT, IF WE'RE TELLING YOU THAT FOR WHATEVER REASON, I'M JUST GOING TO USE THIS AS AN EXAMPLE.
IT IS NOT CONSISTENT FOR ME TO SAY, BUT ON OUR SPIRIT DAY, YOU CAN WEAR HATS.
EITHER WE BELIEVE THEY DON'T, THEY'RE NOT APPROPRIATE OR WE BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE NOT.
SO THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DEEMED INAPPROPRIATE BY THE DRESS CODE SHOULD NOT BE PART OF A SPIRIT WEEK.
IS THAT A CHANGE FROM THE PREVIOUS POLICY? I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S SO MUCH A CHANGE FROM THE POLICY.
I THINK IT IS. A CLARIFICATION FOR IMPLEMENTATION WOULD BE PROBABLY MORE THE REGULATION.
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AND I MEAN, I WOULD CONSIDER JUST CLARIFYING THAT MEANS IT'S NOT PERMITTED.I THINK THERE COULD BE SOME THAT QUESTION LIKE IT WASN'T CLEAR TO ME THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IN THAT LINE. SO I WOULD JUST MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT AS IT RELATES TO THE POLICY, THERE IS NO EXCEPTION FOR SPIRIT WEEK AND CELEBRATORY ACTIVITIES, IF YOU DON'T MIND AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION IS JUST A NEWBIE QUESTION, AND I WILL PROBABLY ASK THIS A COUPLE TIMES AS WE GO THROUGH SOME POLICIES AND REGULATIONS, YOU KNOW, SO MY JOB IS LESS ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THE PRINCIPALS AND ADMINISTRATION, ADMINISTRATION UNDERSTANDS HOW TO MANAGE AND MORE ABOUT WHERE OUR ROLE FALLS IN.
THAT'S KIND OF WHERE MY HEAD WILL ALWAYS BE. SO AS IT RELATES TO BREAKING IT UP INTO A POLICY AND A REGULATION, HOW DOES THAT I DON'T KNOW IF ROCHELLE CAN CHIME IN OR MAYBE ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER CAN, BUT HOW DOES THAT CHANGE OUR BOARD'S RESPONSIBILITY TO EITHER DEFEND, LISTEN TO UPHOLD WHAT MAY NOT BE NECESSARILY IN THE POLICY, BUT IS ONLY IN THE REGULATION WHEN IT WHEN IT COMES BACK TO LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE, YOU KNOW, COMPLAINING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T REALLY DEFINED IN OUR POLICY BUT JUST LIVES IN THE REGULATION PART OF.
THE BACKGROUND IS, AGAIN, THE BOARD DEVELOPS POLICY, THE SUPERINTENDENT REGULATIONS.
BUT WHATEVER REGULATION IS ON THE BOOKS IS THE REGULATION YOU SHOULD BE IMPLEMENTING.
SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DEFEND TALK, TO LISTEN, TO SPEAK TO ANYONE WHO CAME TO US BECAUSE THEY HAD A QUESTION ABOUT DRESS CODE, EVEN IF THAT DETAIL ISN'T IN A POLICY THAT WE'VE APPROVED, BUT IS IN A REGULATION THAT WAS APPROVED BY.
IF YOU DON'T LIKE A REGULATION, THIS IS THE PLACE TO TELL THE SUPERINTENDENT THAT YOU DON'T LIKE IT.
NO AND IF YOU AND AS TIME GOES ON, WHEN YOU IF YOU FIND THAT SOMETHING IS NEBULOUS AND IT'S NOT UNDERSTANDABLE OR THAT THE IMPLEMENTATION OF IT IS NOT WORKABLE, THEN THE NEXT GO ROUND YOU CHANGE IT.
YEAH, BUT IF YOU HAVE A POLICY AND A REGULATION AND A MATTER COMES BEFORE YOU, IN ORDER FOR THE STAFF TO KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO UPHOLD THE RULES THAT THEY'RE FOLLOWING, YOU NEED TO UPHOLD WHATEVER THE POLICY AND REGULATION IS.
OKAY. MY QUESTION WAS MORE, CAN WE IT WASN'T BECAUSE I HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT IT.
IT WAS JUST IT'S NOT OUR POLICY AT THAT POINT.
YEAH. IS ARE WE STILL ABLE TO OVERSEE, SUPPORT, DEFEND, LISTEN TO.
NOT I DON'T HAVE ISSUE WITH IT. I'M JUST MY QUESTION IS WHERE IT LIVES AND IS THAT ENOUGH OF A PLACE FOR IT TO LIVE? IT'S A PARTY. COME ON. SORRY. YEAH. THE BOARD MAKES THOSE BROAD.
WE SEE WHAT WE BELIEVE, AND THEN YOU CHARGE YOUR SUPERINTENDENT.
THAT'S WHAT WE BELIEVE. NOW GO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
HE WRITES A REGULATION TO MAKE WHAT YOU BELIEVE HAPPEN.
THAT'S THE DIALOG THAT HAPPENS BETWEEN THE BOARD AND SUPERINTENDENT.
THAT'S THE SO THEY'RE LINKED TOGETHER. IT'S MY ATTEMPT TO PUT INTO PLACE WHAT THE BOARD HAS LAID OUT IN THEIR POLICY AS THEIR BELIEFS IN THIS AREA.
CAN WE REVISIT CAN YOU RELOOK AT THIS AND REVISIT AND WITH A REGULATION DOESN'T REQUIRE A FULL READ, A FULL GOING THROUGH. IT'S AN ADJUSTMENT SUPERINTENDENT CAN MAKE IF SOMETHING IS NOT WORKING.
BUT WE CAN ASK. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. THE BOARD CAN.
I THINK THAT WAS THE MORE OR LESS I THINK MAYBE.
YEAH, AND TO PUT IT IN FURTHER PERSPECTIVE, YES I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR YOU TO HEAR WHAT ONE OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS HAS TO SAY AND THEN DIRECT THEM TO EITHER THE SUPERINTENDENT OR THE SUPERVISOR, STAFF MEMBER, ETCETERA, WHO IS IN CHARGE OF THAT? IN OTHER WORDS, IF IT WERE AN ISSUE OF DRESS CODE, THE FIRST THING WE DO.
HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO THE PRINCIPAL AT THE SCHOOL? AND THEN IF THEY SPEAK TO THE PRINCIPAL AND THE PRINCIPAL CAN'T RESOLVE IT, THE PRINCIPAL IS GOING TO SAY, I NEED YOU TO CALL THIS GUY MR. HOWIE IN STUDENT SERVICES, AND WE'LL FOLLOW THAT CHAIN OF COMMAND, BECAUSE IT MAY BE SOMETHING SINGULAR TO THAT ENVIRONMENT THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS.
OR IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO REVISIT.
I THINK SOMETHING ELSE TO REMEMBER AND THIS IS JUST, AGAIN, THIS IS NOT DRESS CODE SPECIFIC.
THIS IS POLICY REVISION AND HOLISTIC. GO BACK TO THERE'S 126 OF THEM.
AND YOU SEE ME BRINGING YOU POLICIES FROM 1989, 1991, 1994.
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THAT'S FUN TO SAY. IT'S PART OF THE SUPERINTENDENT IMPLEMENTING THAT POLICY IS CHARGING ME TO LEAD THIS WORK AND SAY, I WANT EVERY POLICY ON FOUR YEAR ROTATION, THAT EVERY FOUR YEARS THE POLICY GETS LOOKED AT FOR TWO YEARS INTO A FOUR YEAR ROTATION.THAT'S WHY I SAY WE'RE ABOUT EQUITY ON THIS POLICY.
YES, IF YOU HAVE REGULATION CONCERNS, YOU CAN TAKE IT.
THIS POLICY WILL NOT GO ANOTHER 20 YEARS WITHOUT EYES ON IT.
IT WILL COME BACK BEFORE THE BOARD. IF PASSED THIS YEAR, IT WILL COME BACK BEFORE THE BOARD IN 2029 FOR A SYSTEMATIC REVIEW IN THE POLICY ON POLICY DEVELOPMENT. IT ALSO SAYS THAT IF THE BOARD HAS CONCERNS WITH ANY POLICY, THEY CAN HAVE THAT POLICY JUMP THE SCHEDULE FOR A SPECIAL REVIEW.
SO THAT IS STILL IN YOUR PURVIEW TO DO TO BRING IT UP.
SO I THINK THIS FEELS AND A LOT OF THE WORK WE'VE DONE WITH POLICY FEELS, I DON'T KNOW, WEIRD ICKY A LITTLE BIT SOMETIMES BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, OH, THIS HASN'T BEEN TOUCHED FOR SUCH A LONG TIME.
BUT THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING THIS. THIS IS A HEAVY LIFT RIGHT NOW, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO GET INTO THIS SYSTEMATIC REVIEW EVERY FOUR YEARS SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE SITUATION OF 1989. WHAT WAS THE CIVIL DEFENSE? ONE WHERE THE SECRETARY OF THE SCHOOL WOULD DRIVE TO THE NEAREST HOUSE AND LISTEN TO THE RADIO LIKE THAT WAS STILL ON THE BOOKS? YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND IT JUST HADN'T BEEN LOOKED AT POLICY WITHOUT DATES ON THEM, LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO GET OUT.
SO AGAIN, THAT'S A POLICY REGULATION HOLISTIC PIECE.
BUT JUST REMEMBER THIS IS NOT GOING TO LINGER 20 YEARS.
YOU HAVE AVENUES THAT PEOPLE COME TO YOU AND SAY THIS ISN'T WORKING.
ALL RIGHT. DO WE NEED THE REGULATION TO BE CHANGED? DO WE NEED A SPECIAL REVIEW? IS THIS POLICY UP FOR REVISION NEXT YEAR ANYWAY? AND WE NEED TO GET AHEAD OF IT. YOU HAVE TOOLS IN YOUR TOOL BELT.
BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE POLICY AND POLICY DEVELOPMENT IS BEING IMPLEMENTED NOW.
SO JUST REMEMBER THAT AS WELL. CAN I ASK A QUESTION? MISS PARKS, I THINK YOUR QUESTION IS IF IT'S NOT A POLICY, IT'S A REGULATION.
AM I ABLE TO ADD SOME TYPE OF A CHALLENGE? AM I ABLE? YES AND THAT WAS MY QUESTION. MY QUESTION. THEY ARE BECAUSE IS PART OF THE BOARD.
IT IS STILL ALL PART OF THE SAME DOCUMENTATION.
IF YOU SEE THAT THERE IS A CHANGE IN THE REGULATION.
BUT I THINK THE QUESTION WAS IF IT'S NOT IN POLICY, BUT IT'S IN REGULATION, IF I'M BROUGHT TO CHALLENGE, CAN I? AND THE ANSWER IS YES. THANK YOU. DID IT HELP? I DID. GOOD. I ALSO THINK THAT JUST LIKE WITH WHETHER IT'S A BEHAVIOR CONCERN OR A PARENT CONCERN THAT COMES TO US OR WHATEVER AS BOARD MEMBERS THAT WE CONSIDER THAT, CHANGE AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE STILL HAVE TO FOLLOW THAT.
I KNOW I'VE HAD PHONE CALLS MORE THAN ONCE SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD.
AND I CONSTANTLY REMIND. HAVE YOU STARTED WITH THE TEACHER? HAVE YOU HAD THAT CONVERSATION? HAVE YOU HAD THE PRINCIPAL? AND YOU KNOW, I'M NOT HAPPY. THEN WE MOVE THEM UP THE CHAIN TO THE NEXT PERSON, AND I THINK WE'LL HAVE TO PROBABLY DO THAT EVEN WITH THIS DRESS CODE, ONCE IT'S PUT INTO ACTION, ACCEPTED AND MADE YOU KNOW FOR REAL THAT IT IS TO BE IMPLEMENTED, THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE CHALLENGES. YEAH, FOR SURE.
TO WHAT DOCTOR DOWNS SAID. MY QUESTION, THE CLARITY FOR MY QUESTION WAS AT THE END OF THAT, LIKE WHEN IT COMES HERE AND WE'RE BEING ASKED AS A GROUP TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER, DEFEND, CHALLENGE, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, PASSIONATE PERSON COMES WITH CONCERNS ABOUT DRESS CODE.
ARE WE RESTRICTED TO WHAT'S IN THE POLICY? BECAUSE IF WE ARE, I DIDN'T SEE WHERE WE WOULD HAVE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO DEFEND SCHOOL STAFF FOR SOME OF THE DECISIONS THEY MADE. YOU KNOW, IF WE'VE APPROVED IT, IT'S A POLICY.
WE CAN DEFEND THAT. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF LANGUAGE IN THAT REGULATION THAT WE DIDN'T LAY OUR HANDS ON AND, YOU KNOW, I LOVE THAT PROCESS AND I'M HOPING THAT PROCESS WORKS AND THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THAT AT THE END OF IT, THAT'S WHAT YOU SAY THE REPORTING OF PROGRESS POLICY IS PROBABLY THE BEST EXAMPLE TO LOOK AT. AGAIN ANY QUESTIONS? NO, THESE ARE GREAT QUESTIONS.
NO. THEY'RE GREAT QUESTIONS. SO THE REPORTING PUPIL PROGRESS POLICY GRADING.
YES, SIR. EVERYBODY CALLS IT REPORTING PUPIL PROGRESS POLICY ITSELF IS PROBABLY FOUR PAGES.
THREE PAGES. EVEN WITH ALL THE REFERENCES, THE REGULATIONS ABOUT 25 PAGES.
IF WE EVER ARE GOING TO GET AN APPEAL ON A GRADING POLICY DECISION, IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE REGULATION, WHICH IS THE 20 SOME PAGES THAT OUTLINE. BUT THE BOARD SET THE PARAMETERS FOR WHAT A GRADE SHOULD MEAN AND THEN HERE WAS ALL OF IT.
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HOW WOULD IT BE IMPLEMENTED IN ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE AND HIGH AND ACTUALLY ELEMENTARY BEING SPLIT WITH PRIMARY HAVING ONE GRADING STANDARD, UPPER ELEMENTARY HAVING ANOTHER, AND SO ON, THAT SORT OF WHERE WHAT POLICY, WHEN IT'S WRITTEN IN THE RIGHT FORMAT SHOULD FOLLOW THAT WITH A DETAILED READ IN THE POLICY GIVING THE BROAD STROKE, BUT THE BOARD IS RESPONSIBLE FOR UPHOLDING ALL.BUT AGAIN, THE SUPERINTENDENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR CRAFTING THE HOW AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING MISSING IN THE HOW THAT PUTS THE BOARD POLICY IN PLACE, THEN THAT'S WHERE WE WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M PUTTING YOUR VISION FOR THE POLICY IN PLACE.
BUT THE BEST EXAMPLE OF WHAT THAT FRAMEWORK SHOULD PROBABLY LOOK LIKE.
WOULD THAT IN ALL OF THE REGULATIONS IS IT'S ALSO FOR THE STAFF AND THE ADMINISTRATORS, AND THEN THEY HAVE A PROCESS BY WHICH THEY CAN KIND OF WORK THROUGH ANY CONCERNS OR CHALLENGES INTERNALLY THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND FOR EXAMPLE, THE GRADING BEFORE IT COMES TO THE BOARD.
THEN YOU HAVE MORE OF AN INFORMED OPPORTUNITY.
SO IT CONNECTS TO WHAT YOU ASKED ABOUT WITH REGARDS TO REGULATIONS AND GUIDELINES.
THANK YOU. THERE'S ONE CHANGE THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CHANGE SHOULD BE, BUT THE PHRASE, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T SEE THIS BEFORE.
THE PHRASE THAT AND TO TAKE UP FROM WHAT MISS JOHNSON SAID.
CLOTHING THAT'S UNDULY REVEALING. I UNDERSTAND IT'S IN THE REGULATION, BUT IN THE POLICY ITSELF, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S MEANT BY UNDULY. I JUST DON'T KNOW AND I CAN SEE A APPELLANT ARGUING THAT WAS THE RATIONALE FOR NOT HAVING IT IN THE POLICY, BUT IT WAS THE COMMENTARY FROM THE, OUR CONSTITUENTS THAT WANTED IT BACK IN. BUT AS THAT WAS WHAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD BASED ON THE REQUEST OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS, THE WORD UNDULY. THAT IS THE COMMENTARY THAT THEY WISH TO HAVE IN THERE.
YEAH. IT'S NOT A GOOD WORD FOR A POLICY. I DO NOT DISAGREE.
WHAT WOULD YOU SUGGEST? I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT IT SHOULD BE. IF I COULD LOOK AT SOME OTHER POLICIES THAT I'VE WRITTEN. I WAS NOT UNDULY, EXCESSIVELY WOULD HAVE BEEN THE WORD I WOULD HAVE CHOSEN. BUT AGAIN, THAT IS STILL SUBJECTIVE. EXCESSIVELY.
BUT AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW OF A WORD THAT YOU CAN PUT IN THERE THAT ISN'T TO SOME DEGREE SUBJECTIVE.
YEAH, IT'S STILL GOING TO NO MATTER WHAT YOU CHOOSE, IT'S GOING TO BE A JUDGMENT. BUT UNDULY IS JUST, MEANINGLESS. ACCESSIBLE. I MEAN, DO YOU WANT TO.
MORE SPECIFIC WITH, YOU KNOW, REVEALING. YEAH. IF A PERSON'S IF WE WANT TO STRIKE THE WORD UNDULY, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO SO.
AREAS. BUT IS THIS. YOU HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT, ON THIS? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING? BECAUSE I COULD ALWAYS COME BACK WITH SOMETHING.
SO THE BOARD HAS THE WAY OUR POLICY ON POLICY DEVELOPMENT IS WRITTEN.
THE BOARD HAS AFTER THE SECOND OR AT THE SECOND READING, THE BOARD CAN EITHER APPROVE OR THE BOARD CAN DECIDE TO TAKE ANOTHER MONTH OR ANOTHER MONTH, OR IT CAN EXTEND ITS THE BOARD'S DECISION.
SO IF I MAY I'D LIKE TO I WOULD IF WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER ALLOWING SOME ADDITIONAL TIME, I'D LIKE TO ADD THE COMMENT FOR CLARIFICATION TO BE EXTREMELY SPECIFIC ABOUT THE LACK OF EXCEPTIONS AND THEN THAT WOULD ALLOW US TIME.
MISS EISENBERG, IF YOU WANT TO WORDSMITH FURTHER TO COME UP WITH A BETTER WORD AND I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT AND THEN IT WOULD JUST BE UP TO THE BOARD IF THEY WANT TO CONTINUE WITH COMMENTARY, OR SIMPLY THEN POST THE REVISIONS OR REVIEW IT AT THE NEXT APPROPRIATE BOARD MEETING, WHENEVER THAT WOULD BE AND IF I COULD JUST ADD GENERALLY AND DON'T AND PLEASE, TAKE THIS THE RIGHT WAY.
I UNDERSTAND YOU WANT TO GET PUBLIC INFORMATION AND PUBLIC INPUT, BUT THE PUBLIC INPUT IS NOT NECESSARILY INPUT THAT YOU MUST PUT INTO THE POLICY, BECAUSE IT MAY CAUSE LITIGATION ISSUES IN THE FUTURE.
I AGREE WITH YOU. I JUST I DO THINK THOUGH, FOR ME, SOMETHING THERE THAT ACTUALLY CLARIFIES WHAT WE CAN PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER THAT ACTUALLY CLARIFIES WHAT THAT IS, THAT WOULD ACTUALLY HOLD WATER OR HOLD WEIGHT.
AND THIS IS ACTUALLY CLARIFYING WHAT OUR COMMENTS.
NO, I DON'T IF WE DON'T NEED TO GET MORE, WE DON'T BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY GOTTEN THE COMMENTS ON IT.
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WE'RE JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY THIS AT THIS POINT, THIS ONE THING AND THEN IF EVERYBODY ELSE IS COMFORTABLE, WE CAN I THINK THE. YOU CAN TABLE OR BRING IT BACK AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING.BOARD MEMBERS APPROPRIATE MOTION WOULD BE OKAY.
GO RIGHT ON. YEAH. JUST ON THE BE FOR WEARING SPANDEX.
IS THAT CONSIDERED SHORTS AS WELL? WE WERE IN THAT LINE ITEM.
IT IS REFERRING TO SHORTS AND THEN MY ONLY QUESTION IS AREN'T THE VOLLEYBALL PLAYERS.
THEY DO NOT WEAR THEM IN THE HALLWAY ON THE WAY TO ENGLISH CLASS. THAT IS IE WHEN I'M A BASEBALL PLAYER, I'M ALLOWED TO WEAR A HAT ON THE FIELD, BUT I DON'T NEED IT IN ENGLISH CLASS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE. YEAH, IT DOES NOT AND IT KIND OF GOES BACK TO THE WHOLE ARGUMENT OF WHAT'S APPROPRIATE IN THE PROPER SETTINGS. LIKE I WOULD WEAR A BASKETBALL JERSEY WHEN I'M PLAYING BASKETBALL.
I WOULD NOT WEAR IT IN DECEMBER. I WOULDN'T, BUT MAYBE SOMEBODY WALKING OUT IN THE COLD.
IT'S AND AGAIN, THAT IS PART OF OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO DEMONSTRATE AND SHOW OUR STUDENTS PROPER DECORUM AND PROPER SETTINGS AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER THING I KNOW, WE HAD MENTIONED TO TRY TO MAKE IT UNIFORM AND EASIER ON OUR ADMINISTRATION FROM TOP TO, YOU KNOW, AT ALL SCHOOLS. BUT I STILL FEEL WE'RE NOT HITTING THAT MARK BECAUSE I FEEL NO MATTER WHAT, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO BE DIFFERENT AT COLONEL AT NORTH CAROLINA OR AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS BECAUSE OF IT'S BASED ON THE ADMINISTRATOR.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL EVER BE ABLE TO HIT THAT MARK.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO PUT SO MUCH IN THERE AND THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU NEED TO DO.
BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'RE LEAVING OUR GUYS AND GALS OUT TO DRY AND ALL THAT KIND OF.
I WOULD AND I APPRECIATE THAT. MR. POLACEK, ALL OF OUR PRINCIPALS AND ASSISTANT PRINCIPALS HELPED CREATE THIS LANGUAGE AND SAID THIS WOULD HELP GIVE THEM WHAT THEY NEEDED TO HAVE CONSISTENCY ACROSS ALL OF THEIR SCHOOLS. OKAY.
THEY EVEN WORKED ON CREATING WHAT A STICK FIGURE VISUAL COULD BE.
TO HELP WITH KIND OF UNDERSTANDING WHAT SHOULD BE COVERED, WHAT YOU KNOW, WHAT IS OKAY OR NOT.
THEY FELT THIS GAVE THEM WHERE THEY NEEDED TO GO.
OKAY AND THEY FELT THEY COULD REACH AGREEMENT.
OUR PIECE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO ON MY END AND MR. HOWIE'S END IS MAKING SURE THAT OUR ADMINISTRATORS ARE THEN FOLLOWING WHAT THEY'VE AGREED TO FOLLOW. I JUST DON'T WANT TO.
YEAH. WHAT WE WOULD DO ALSO IS ONCE, ONCE WE FINALIZE THIS AND IT AND THE POLICY IS APPROVED, AND THEN THE REGULATION CAN BE IMPLEMENTED, WE WOULD ALSO THEN TAKE TIME TO RETRAIN AND PROVIDE THAT PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT TO SUPPORT OUR ADMINISTRATORS SO THAT THEY ARE EVEN MORE COMFORTABLE AND FEEL MORE SECURE IN THE DECISIONS THAT WE'RE MAKING. THAT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY AND WE DO THAT ANNUALLY.
I JUST HAVE ONE OTHER, IF I CAN SHARE TO THE NEXUS FOR THIS [INAUDIBLE], THIS MEETING, THIS COMMITTEE THAT WE HAD WAS BECAUSE THE PREVIOUS POLICY REGULATIONS LACKED WHAT THE ADMINISTRATORS FELT WAS CONSISTENCY AND CALIBRATION FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD.
LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE I FELT THAT THE POLICY WAS GOING TO BE MORE OR I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE I WAS THINKING, YOU KNOW, IT WAS GOING TO BE MORE INDIFFERENT. BUT TO ME, IT'S THE SAME THING AS THE POLICY WAS JUST WORDED DIFFERENTLY.
AS FAR AS THE REGULATION GOES, THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT WERE OUT AND OUT REMOVED FLARED PANTS OR NOT, SOMETHING THAT WE'RE SUPER CONCERNED ABOUT, BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THE MAJORITY OF IT IS STILL THE SAME.
THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS HAD A BIGGER EXPECTATION THAT WAS GOING TO BE A [INAUDIBLE].
AGAIN AND BE DRIVEN INTO MY DAILY THING. SO LIKE IT'S DOWN TO A T LIKE THIS.
YEAH, THIS IS LIKE WAY TOO BIG. LIKE THIS IS.
YEAH. THIS IS LIKE DRIVING ME INSANE. I THINK IT'S BECAUSE THAT'S JUST THE WAY I AM EVERY DAY.
YEAH. I THINK THE ISSUE IS WHEN YOU READ THE POLICY AND I.
MAYBE I'M WRONG, MAYBE I'M RIGHT. BUT YOU HAVE A HARD TIME. I HAVE A HARD TIME PICTURING WHAT THAT STUDENT LOOKS LIKE. WHEN I READ THE POLICY, WHEN I READ THE REGULATIONS, I HAVE A BETTER TIME. BUT AND IT USED TO BE I COULD READ THE POLICY AND HAVE THAT AND THAT'S BECAUSE SO MUCH OF THE MEAT OF THE POLICY MOVED TO THE REGULATION. I DON'T KNOW AND THAT MAY BE THE SAME THING THAT YOU'RE YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THAT YOU'RE KIND OF TOSSING AROUND, TOO, THAT YOU'RE HAVING A HARD TIME MAYBE JUST VISUALIZING WHAT THAT STUDENT, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S VISUALIZING WHAT THAT STUDENT LOOKS LIKE. AND CONVERSELY, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PROGRESS, THE POLICY DOESN'T REALLY GIVE YOU A GOOD PICTURE OF THAT STUDENT. LOOKS LIKE WHEN YOU GO INTO THE SPECIFICS AND REGULATION OF THE GRADING, YOU GET A BETTER PICTURE OF WHAT THAT STUDENT PROFILE LOOKS LIKE.
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IT'S THE SAME WITH THIS DRESS CODE POLICY AND REGULATION AND THIS IS AN ONGOING PROCESS OF PROFESSIONAL LEARNING THAT DOCTOR HOWIE WILL CONTINUE WITH ILLUSTRATORS WHEN THEY GET THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GETTING THIS DONE.THEY'LL CONTINUE ON WITH DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING.
ARE THERE OTHER NEW THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING? ARE WE RECOGNIZING SOME TRENDS WITH ATTIRE THAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT WILL CONTINUE TO BE ONGOING WITH THEIR REGULAR MEETINGS? ARE WE FAR OFF FROM WHAT OTHER JURISDICTIONS ARE DOING? NO, THIS IS THE MAJORITY OF DISTRICTS PRIMARILY.
THE MAIN ISSUES THAT WERE REMAINED IN THE POLICY ARE PRETTY STANDARD ACROSS THE BOARD.
MOST, IF ANY, FLUCTUATION. A LOT OF IT IS DEPENDING ON REGIONALITY.
GROWING UP IN FLORIDA THERE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE LAXNESS BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER.
IN SOME AREAS. SO THAT THOSE ARE THE KIND OF DIFFERENCES YOU SEE PRIMARILY, BUT IT'S FAIRLY STANDARD AND AGAIN, FROM HEARING FROM OUR STUDENTS, THE ONES WHO ARE GOING TO BE DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THIS, THEY ALL FELT FAIRLY COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT'S CURRENTLY IN PLACE.
I WILL SAY, PERSONALLY SPEAKING I FEEL LIKE THE REGULATION AND THE POLICY THAT GOES TO REGULATION REFLECTS CAROLINE COUNTY AND IT WAS MADE BY CAROLINE COUNTY. IT WAS DEVELOPED WITH CAROLINE COUNTY STUDENTS AND STAFF IN MIND.
SO WHILE IT IS IN LINE WITH SOME OF THE OTHER DISTRICTS AND KIND OF LIKE YOU SAID, IS IT ARE WE KEEPING EVERY OTHER DISTRICT AROUND US? YES. HOWEVER, I FEEL LIKE THE ONE THAT WE HAVE REGULATION.
IT FOLLOWS REALLY, TRULY THE INTEGRITY OF CAROLINE COUNTY.
YEAH. I WAS JUST THINKING LIKE, WHAT'S IN IT? WHAT'S IN OUR REGULATION? IS IT, YOU KNOW, ARE THEY HITTING THE SAME THINGS THAT WE ARE OR IS THERE SOMETHING ARE WE MISSING? YEAH. OF COURSE. YEAH, LIKE THAT'S WHAT I MEAN. LIKE, ARE WE DOING BETTER OR WE ARE. BECAUSE WE INVOLVED OUR STAKEHOLDERS AND OUR ADMINISTRATORS TO BE ABLE TO BE MORE IN DEPTH AND MORE AND AS MR. JONES SAYS, I CAN I CAN PHYSICALLY SEE THAT CHILD IN REGULATION.
WHEREAS IF YOU LOOK AT OTHER REGULATIONS, THEY'RE STILL A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, NOT QUITE CLEAR.
OR AND TO DOCTOR WILLOUGHBY'S POINT, ANTIQUATED.
THERE'S HAVEN'T BEEN UPDATED. SO LIKE OURS IS ROBUST IN THAT WAY.
AND THAT MEANS WHEN THE POLICY NEEDS TO BE CHANGED, WE'RE BACK HERE.
PART OF THAT, I'LL BE VERY HONEST, [INAUDIBLE].
ALLOWS THAT FLEXIBILITY. IT'S NOT TAKING POWER AWAY FROM THE BOARD.
IT'S NOT YOU KNOW, IT STILL IS THE POSITION STATEMENT KIND OF POLICY, IF YOU BELIEVE THIS IS HOW WE DO IT AND JUST HOW WE MOVE FORWARD. IT GIVES THAT FLEXIBILITY FOR COMMUNICATION.
I'D LIKE TO ASK ONE MORE CLARIFYING QUESTION.
ABSOLUTELY. YOU SAID FLORIDA WEATHER AND IT LIKE AND IT JUST MADE ME THINK OF SOMETHING WHEN YOU REVIEWED THE POLICY RELATED TO THE HEAVY COATS BECAUSE I ACTUALLY DID THINK MAYBE THAT WOULD GO AWAY OR WOULD CHANGE. NEITHER OF THE SECONDARY PRINCIPALS HAD ANY CONCERNS ABOUT KIDS BEING ABLE TO, LIKE, HAVE A LOCKER AT A SCHOOL. LIKE, MAYBE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH LOCKERS FOR KIDS RIGHT NOW.
I MEAN, BUT IT'S NOT BEEN A PROBLEM. THEY DON'T ANTICIPATE THIS LANGUAGE.
NO, THEY DID NOT. THEY DID NOT INDICATE THAT WAS A MAJOR CONCERN AS LIKE I SAID, AS A FORMER HIGH SCHOOL PRINCIPAL, THAT WAS NOT A CONCERN FOR US. WE FREQUENTLY HAD SITUATIONS BASEBALL, LACROSSE, WHERE YOU HAVE ITEMS THAT ARE NOT GOING TO FIT IN A LOCKER, AND WE ADAPT AND MAKE ALLOWANCES FOR THAT WHERE THEY CAN BE STORED APPROPRIATELY SO THAT THEY'RE NOT BEING LUGGED ALL THROUGH SCHOOL.
SAME THING. THOSE BIG HEAVY COATS CAN CAUSE SOME ISSUES THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
THAT'S WHY WE WANT THEM TO PUT THEM UP FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS, BUT.
YEAH, NOBODY INDICATED THAT WAS A CONCERN. I MEAN, I THINK ANECDOTALLY THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, SOME UNDERSTANDING WHEN WE GOT ARCTIC COLD THIS WINTER THAT SOME KIDS MAYBE DIDN'T HAVE A LOCKER OR A CAR NEEDED TO BRING A COAT IN, AND IT WAS FINE. YEAH. I'M HOPING THAT THEY WOULD CONTINUE TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO SAY, LIKE, WE KNOW IT'S REAL COLD AND THAT SWEATSHIRT IS NOT GOING TO CUT IT FROM THE BUS TO THE SCHOOL. SO YOU'RE GOOD TO APPROPRIATELY WEAR A JACKET IN THE BUILDING ON THOSE RARE
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OCCASIONS THAT THOSE KIDS DO. EXACTLY. WELL, I MEAN, THAT'S WHY I'M NOT GOING TO DIE ON THAT HILL, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE KIDS WILL STILL CONTINUE. IF YOU CAN FIGURE OUT WHY WE NEED A HOODIE WHEN IT'S 105 OUT, SO THANK YOU. YOU'RE VERY WELCOME. THOSE ARE ALL VERY POINTED AND RELEVANT QUESTIONS THAT THEY NEED TO BE ASKED.THIS IS NOT AN EASY ONE TO DELVE INTO FOR ALL OF THE REASONS WE'RE DISCUSSING.
I THINK WE KNEW THIS WAS GOING TO BE A YES. IT ALWAYS IS.
SINCE 2001. STRATEGIC SOUNDS LIKE WHERE WE ARE.
IS THIS EISENBERG? I ACTUALLY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE POSTPONE VOTING ON THIS TONIGHT TO GIVE YOU TIME TO COMMUNICATE WITH SUPERINTENDENT AND MICHELE IF WE NEED TO, FOR LEGAL VERBIAGE AND IT GIVES BOARD MEMBERS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE BEFORE WE MEET THE NEXT BOARD MEETING.
[INAUDIBLE]. ABSOLUTELY. DID YOU? YES. OKAY. SO WE NEED A SECOND ON THAT? SECOND. SO YOU'RE MOVING IT TO THIRD READER. OKAY.
YES. SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE POSTPONE THE VOTE ON THE DRESS CODE FOR THIS EVENING AND MOVE TO A THIRD READING. MOVE IT TO A THIRD READING.
IS THERE A SECOND? OH, THERE WAS A SECOND. VOTE, PLEASE.
AYE. THANK YOU. I HAVE IT. THANK YOU. SORRY.
CALENDAR. THIS WILL BE ALMOST AS FUN AS THE DRESS CODE.
DO WE HAVE A REGULATION? NO, NOT ON THIS ONE.
THIS ONE'S NOT FUN. THIS WILL BE THE FIRST OF TWO ACTION ITEMS THE BOARD WILL SEE.
ONE WILL BE THIS MONTH, AND ONE WILL HOPEFULLY BE NEXT MONTH.
THAT WE HAD THAT KIND OF CAME IN AND MELTED REAL FAST AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET IT IN THE NEXT DAY, BUT WE STILL DID LOSE THAT DAY AND WE ARE IN THE BONUS ROUND.
SO I'M NOT BRINGING THAT TO THE BOARD. I'M BRINGING THE ACTION ITEM TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL HALF DAY ON THE END OF THE YEAR, JUNE 17TH. THIS MOVES US FROM MONDAY BEING THE LAST STUDENT DAY TO TUESDAY.
I'M NOT BRINGING IT UNTIL WE GET TO APRIL WITH THE WAY THAT THINGS HAVE GONE.
SO THIS WEEKEND . SO I'M WAITING UNTIL APRIL, AND THERE'S A MODEL THAT DOESN'T .
TO BRING. YEAH, TO BRING YOU THAT ONE. SO TONIGHT IT WOULD JUST BE SEEKING YOUR APPROVAL TO OFFICIALLY AS OF RIGHT NOW, ADD THE DAY ON THE END OF THE CALENDAR FOR JUNE 17TH FOR A HALF DAY FOR STUDENTS, BECAUSE I'M A NEWBIE AND THERE MIGHT BE SOMEBODY LISTENING.
THIS IS THE ONLY OPTION WE HAVE CURRENTLY. YOU CAN EITHER OR YOU CAN PETITION THE STATE TO TAKE GOOD FRIDAY, EASTER MONDAY OR MEMORIAL DAY. THOSE ARE OUR ONLY THREE DAYS LEFT IN THE CALENDAR.
THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING. NO PROBLEM. GLADLY. CAN WE GET A MOTION? THAT HAS TO BE A WAIVER TO THEM TO TAKE OFF. NOT UNTIL WE HAVE THREE DAYS BEYOND WHERE OUR ORIGINAL LAST.
RIGHT. AND THIS IS IT? YES. OKAY. AT THIS POINT, WE COULD [INAUDIBLE].
WITH ALL OF THAT BEING SAID, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THE LAST DAY.
I JUST NEED TO SAY THAT. I MOVED THE LAST DAY OF SCHOOL TO JUNE THE 17TH AS A HALF DAY.
AT THIS TIME? AT THIS TIME, I'LL SECOND THAT.
IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
OPPOSED? THANK YOU. SO CARRIED. AND NOW OUR SCHOOL CALENDAR FOR 2526 SCHOOL YEAR.
DOCTOR DOWNS, PRESIDENT WAYMAN. DOCTOR SIMMONS AND THE BOARD.
SO WE HAVE A WINNER FOR OUR CALENDAR RECOMMENDATIONS.
WHEN WE STARTED THIS THREE YEARS AGO WITH THIS PROCESS, I USED THE SSIC AND CAC FEEDBACK AND ASKED THEM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GENERATE THE CALENDAR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE WITH ME AND SIT DOWN WITH ALL THE PAPERS AND THE NUMBERS AND THE PENCILS?
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AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO WORK? MISS JOHNSON'S BEEN ON THAT PART OF IT AS WELL.WOULD YOU WANT TO CREATE THESE WITH ME, WHICH WILL TAKE ABOUT 12 HOURS, OR WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO PROVIDE YOU A COUPLE OF OPTIONS THAT HAVE ALL THE HAVES IN THERE? THEY CONTINUOUSLY CHOOSE, GIVE US A COUPLE OF OPTIONS AND GIVE US DINNER AND WE'LL BE HAPPY.
SO IT TENDS TO WORK OUT EXTREMELY WELL AND I HAVE A JOINT MEETING WITH SSIC AND CAC SO WE CAN DO IT TOGETHER, AND IT GIVES THEM TIME TO COLLABORATE AS PARENTS, COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND AS TEACHERS.
SO WE DID THAT AND WE SENT OUT THOSE TWO VERSIONS FOR PUBLIC FEEDBACK.
WE DID HAVE A MATHEMATICAL ERROR ON THE PREVIOUS FEEDBACK TO TWO VERSIONS.
ON VERSION TWO. WE DID SEND IT BACK OUT FOR RESURVEYING TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY WAS STILL GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THOSE AGAIN AND PROVIDE THEIR CHOICE THROUGH COMMUNITY SURVEYS. SO THIS IS THE WINDOW THAT WE USED FOR PARENT, GUARDIAN STAFF AND REMINDER SURVEYS WERE SENT AS WELL.
SO THEY HAD A CHANCE TO WEIGH IN ON THE SURVEY.
SO THESE ARE THIS IS THE BREAKDOWN OF WHO TOOK THE SURVEY.
THIS WAS IT WAS CLOSE. THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME IT'S BEEN THIS CLOSE WITH COMMUNITY INPUT.
BUT STILL THE PRE-LABOR DAY CALENDAR DID WIN OUT ON THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK WITH SSIC AND CAC.
IT WAS UNANIMOUS. THEY ALL CHOSE CALENDAR ONE PRE-LABOR DAY.
SO I'M COMING TO YOU THIS EVENING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE ADOPT A CALENDAR ONE PRE-LABOR DAY START AS OUR 25-26 CALENDAR SCHOOL YEAR. ANY QUESTIONS? BOARD MEMBERS? CAN WE PLEASE HAVE A MOTION THEN? CAN I ASK A COUPLE QUESTIONS? SURE THING. SO FOR THE CAC AND ICP'S MEETINGS, DID YOU HAVE PARENT PARTICIPATION? LIKE DO YOU FEEL LIKE IT WAS A I NEED A SCIENTIST.
I NEED A WHEN YOU WHEN YOU SET UP A SCIENCE FAIR EXPERIMENT AND YOU MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ALL THE RIGHT VARIABLES, LIKE YOU FEEL LIKE IT WAS A YOU HAD ENOUGH REPRESENTATION. SO YOU'RE ASKING IF WE HAD CAC MEMBERS ATTEND? YEAH. YES WE DID.
OKAY. I WILL I MEAN, I'LL JUST SAY TRANSPARENTLY THAT LIKE, WHAT I HEAR HAS NOT BEEN THIS WHAT I HAVE LIKE SOME FEEDBACK THAT I'VE RECEIVED FROM SOME TEACHERS, SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAS BEEN THAT IT'S NOT THEIR PREFERENCE AND SO I KNOW THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE BREAKDOWN, THERE ARE A LOT OF EMPLOYEES THAT RESPOND. A LOT OF PARENTS WHO ARE ALSO EMPLOYEES RESPOND AS BOTH.
AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE GOT THE FEEDBACK AND THEN ALSO JUST HAVE KIND OF A TRANSPARENT CONVERSATION ABOUT INTENTION FOR YEAR AFTER YEAR, BECAUSE I ALSO HEAR THAT'S SOMETHING THAT PARENTS ARE INTERESTED IN.
KIND OF JUST THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO EVERY YEAR.
I THINK THIS YEAR I'M PROBABLY HEARING THE FLIP BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SO MUCH SNOW.
AND IF WE GET OUT ON THE 17TH OF JUNE, TEACHERS ARE NOW COMING BACK, MAYBE CLOSE TO TWO MONTHS TO THE DAY WHERE, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR IT WORKED OUT THAT WE GOT OUT REALLY EARLY AND WE HAD A REALLY LONG SUMMER. SO CAN I ASK MISS BARTZ, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY DOING IT DIFFERENTLY THIS YEAR? LIKE, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? I THINK IF WE I'M WONDERING IF THERE IS IF THERE WILL EVER BE A TIME WHERE WE'LL JUST DECIDE THAT WE'RE GOING TO EITHER DO PRE OR POST AND JUST STICK WITH IT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW. OH, YOU MEAN CONSISTENTLY. CONSISTENTLY OKAY. SO YEAH, NOT THE EVALUATION PROCESS, JUST THE CALENDAR ITSELF. I MEAN I DON'T THE BOARD CAN MAKE THAT DETERMINATION AT ANY POINT.
THE PROCESS WE'RE FOLLOWING IS THE PROCESS THE BOARD HAS ASKED US TO FOLLOW, PROBABLY FOR THE LAST 8 OR 9 YEARS, TO CREATE 2 OR 3 VERSIONS. YES AND THEN PUT THEM OUT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
IT'S THE BOARD'S DECISION ULTIMATELY. BUT FOR THE BOARD TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION PRE GOOGLE SURVEY OR PRE ELECTRONIC SURVEY, WE USED TO PUT OUT PAPER COPIES IN THE BUILDINGS AND COLLECT IT THAT WAY AND ACTUALLY WE DIDN'T SOLICIT PARENT FEEDBACK IN THOSE DAYS.
WE'VE BEEN DOING IT THIS WAY. OPEN TO OTHER SUGGESTIONS.
I DON'T MEAN THERE'S NO GREAT WAY TO PULL PEOPLE AND THERE'S NO GREAT ANSWER AND I DON'T KNOW, LIKE IF WE WENT BACK TO THAT SLIDE AND LOOKED AT THE DATA, I JUST I HAVE AND YOU KNOW, EVEN PRIOR TO BEING ON THE BOARD, I HAVE JUST HEARD LIKE I'VE JUST HEARD, THEY DON'T.
YOU KNOW, SOMEONE DOES. FOLKS DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY ARE REPRESENTED WELL.
AND I HEAR WHAT WE'RE DOING AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE DOING IT AND SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT BETTER HOW TO EITHER LIKE TAKE THAT, YOU KNOW, UNCERTAINTY OR TAKE THAT LIKE, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'LL HAVE TERRIBLE, YOU KNOW, JUST THOSE KINDS OF THINGS AND JUST MAKE IT A THING LIKE, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO EVERY YEAR AND IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT SNOWS SIX FEET TO A, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE THERE TILL THE END OF JUNE OR.
WELL, WE'D HAVE TO EMBED. SO SOME STATES ACTUALLY EMBED LIKE TEN SNOW DAYS.
SO YOU'RE KIND OF APPROACHING TWO DIFFERENT SUBJECTS RIGHT NOW.
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SO I JUST WANT TO KIND OF MAKE SURE I ANSWER THEM BOTH. I DON'T THINK, I'M NOT TRYING TO RECOMMEND WE CHANGE THE PROCESS OF BUILDING THE CALENDAR OUT. I DON'T THINK THIS PROCESS IS BAD. I THINK IT'S REALLY JUST DO WE WANT TO START BEFORE LABOR DAY, OR DO WE WANT TO START AFTER LABOR DAY? AND MAYBE THAT'S A CONVERSATION FOR LATER, RIGHT.SO TO RESPOND TO THAT MISS BARTZ WHEN SOME SO SOME STATES AND SOME DISTRICTS HAVE DONE THAT.
THIS PROCESS WAS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN IN PLACE WITH THE POLICY BY THE BOARD FOR YEARS.
I WOULD I KIND OF PERSONALLY LIKE THE PROCESS OF HAVING ANY IF YOU GO THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE DECIDED THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO PRE-LABOR DAY ONLY THEN YOU'RE THEN YOU'RE TRULY TAKING OUT ANY TYPE OF OPPORTUNITY FOR VOICE AND THEN YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME PUSHBACK ON THAT.
THE OTHER PIECE OF IT IS TALKING ABOUT ABOUT SNOW DAYS.
WE CAN EMBED MORE DAYS THAT'S GOING TO EXTEND YOUR YEAR AND YOU JUST BE BACKING THEM OUT.
SO I THINK THAT THIS PROCESS PROVIDES A LAYER OF COMMUNITY INPUT FOR BOARD, THE BOARD TO BE ABLE TO SAY, WE'VE USED YOU AS FEEDBACK BEFORE CREATING. WE'RE JUST GOING TO DECIDE TO DO IT BEFORE LABOR DAY.
THAT GIVES IT GIVES US A VOICE OF SOME SORT. I'M GOING TO ASK MISS JOHNSON TO KIND OF SHARE HER EXPERIENCE DURING THAT SSIC AND CAC PROCESS OF THE CALENDAR, SO THAT YOU CAN KIND OF SHARE OUT THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WERE HAPPENING AND ALSO, WHAT LIMITATIONS WE HAVE WHEN CREATING A CALENDAR FOR THOSE DAYS.
WELL, I JUST REMEMBER WE DID IT BY PAPER. WE DIDN'T GET JUST OPTIONS HANDED TO US.
WE LITERALLY GOT PAPER AND WE WOULD COUNT IT OUT AND MARK IT OUT AND GO THROUGH IT THAT WAY.
SO IT WAS A BIT INTENSE THAT WAY. BUT IT WAS AN INTERESTING PROCESS TO SEE WHY PEOPLE CHOSE HOW THEY CHOSE LIKE SOME BASE IT ON SCHOOL EVENTS OR SCHOOL SPORTS AND THEN SOME WERE LOOKING AT IT FROM VACATION TIME WITH THEIR FAMILIES.
SO IT'S IT IS CHALLENGING TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS BECAUSE YOU HEAR FROM BOTH ASPECTS OF IT.
BUT I WILL SAY I WAS SURPRISED WHEN IT BECAME AN OPTION BECAUSE I REMEMBER IT BEING A BIG THING.
THE GOVERNOR SAID. ALL SCHOOLS ARE STARTING AFTER LABOR DAY AND THEN THIS WAS AN OPTION.
BUT THEN I HEARD A WHOLE PERSPECTIVE OF SCHOOL SPORTS, WHICH AT THAT POINT MY DAUGHTER WAS IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, SO I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT CONCEPT. SO AND THEN BEFORE LABOR DAY IT'S TOUGH PUSH.
SPORTS CONVERSATION RELATED TO COMING BACK EARLIER.
SO THEY SAID THEY WANT TO JUST GO AHEAD AND START SCHOOL THEN AND WE HAVE THE [INAUDIBLE].
YEAH AND WE HAVE THE POST LABOR DAY AS AN OPTION BECAUSE SOMETIMES.
SO WE GOT VERY FORTUNATE THE FIRST TWO YEARS I WAS HERE WORKING IN THE CALENDAR AND THAT THEY WERE IT WAS OBVIOUS THAT AFTER LABOR DAY WAS GOING TO PUT US WAY INTO THE END OF THE JUNE MIDDLE, END OF JUNE, IT WAS OBVIOUS THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE WE WANTED TO KIND OF THROW IT OUT AND SEE WHAT WAS HAPPENING. BUT AS IT AS THERE'S SOME YEARS THAT KIND OF BEFORE AND AFTER, I THINK THIS FIRST YEAR WAS AFTER LABOR DAY.
WE STARTED TWO YEARS AGO. WAS IT AFTER LABOR DAY? I REMEMBER IT WAS KIND OF A WASH. SO IT WAS AFTER.
RIGHT. 23, 22, 23 WAS AFTER LABOR DAY BECAUSE IT WORKED OUT SYMMETRICALLY WHEN IT CAME TO, IT JUST KIND OF TIMED EVERYTHING JUST RIGHT. SO WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO EXPLORE THAT OPPORTUNITY IF IT WORKS WITHIN, IF THE LABOR DAY WINDOW IS EARLIER OR LATER IN THE MONTH, IT DETERMINES HOW LATE WE STAY LATER.
SO AND HOW WINTER BREAK IS AND IF CHRISTMAS FALLS ON A THURSDAY OR SO, WE WANT TO HAVE THAT OPTION.
OKAY. JUST TO BE ABLE TO SEE IF SOMETHING IS MORE CONDUCIVE FOR US.
HOWEVER, I REFER TO THE BOARD IF YOU DECIDE THAT YOU WANT TO DETERMINE THAT EVERY YEAR WE START BEFORE LABOR DAY, IT WILL BE DIFFICULT TO PROVIDE A COUPLE OF VERSIONS OF THAT.
THE MARKETING PERIOD NUMBERS LIKE IT'S AND MISS JOHNSON CAN SPEAK TO.
SO MANY CONSIDERATIONS HAVE TO HAPPEN FOR A CALENDAR.
THERE'S REALLY LIKE ONE DAY HERE AND THERE FOR FLEXIBILITY. BUT YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD WANTS TO TO EXPLORE, THEN AND YOU DETERMINE WHETHER IT'S ALWAYS BEFORE OR ALWAYS AFTER. THEN NO, JUST IT WAS JUST COMMUNITY CONVERSATION.
I GUESS MY LAST QUESTION WOULD JUST BE, I MEAN, ARE WE IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OR ANY CONSIDERATIONS ON HOW TO MITIGATE WHETHER DATES TO KEEP OUR END OF THE YEAR, WHERE OUR END OF THE YEAR SHOULD BE, OR SHOULD WE ANTICIPATE IF WE HAVE EXCESSIVE SNOW, IT WOULD LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME NEXT YEAR AS IT DOES. SO THE BOARD CAN ALWAYS WE CAN CHANGE THE NUMBER OF SNOW DAYS THAT WE BUILD IN.
THE BOARD ALWAYS HAS THE ABILITY TO TAKE CERTAIN DAYS, AS LONG AS THEY ARE NOT STATE REQUIRED DAYS TO CONVERT, LIKE WE DID WITH THE PE DAY. WE WOULD ALWAYS HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY THAT IF A SNOW CAME EARLY OF CONVERTING PRESIDENTS DAY.
SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. WE JUST HAVE TO APPEAL TO THE STATE.
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BUT THOSE ARE FLEXIBILITIES THAT COULD EXIST.WE JUST. THE SNOW DIDN'T FALL AT THE RIGHT TIMES FOR US THIS YEAR TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
BUT LIKE, THOSE DO EXIST WITH HOW YOU TRY TO.
WHAT ABOUT CAPTURE EXTRA DAYS? VIRTUAL DAYS? THE ONLY WEEK, WE DO NOT QUALIFY FOR VIRTUAL DAYS.
I CANNOT BRING BEFORE THIS BOARD TO ASK YOU TO CERTIFY SOMETHING THAT I CAN PROVIDE INTERNET ACCESS TO ALL OF OUR STAFF AND STUDENTS AND IF I CAN'T BRING SOMETHING TO YOU TO ASK YOU TO CERTIFY THAT WE DO, WE CANNOT HAVE A VIRTUAL PLAN.
SO THERE'S INTERNET AND LOWER DORCHESTER. I CANNOT SPEAK FOR ANOTHER COUNTY, BUT I CANNOT.
AND THEY'RE A WEALTHY COUNTY, AND THEY CANNOT GUARANTEE THAT THEY HAVE INTERNET TO PROVIDE THOSE AREAS. AND I KNOW THAT REQUIRES ME TO PUBLICLY DISCUSS THIS WITH THE BOARD AT A MEETING, AND THAT I HAVE TO PUBLICLY STATE THAT I CAN PROVIDE INTERNET ACCESS TO ALL OF OUR STAFF AND STUDENTS THAT NEED TO BE ON.
I MEAN, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I'VE WRESTLED WITH IT, BUT I CAN'T HIT THE FIRST MARKS AND IF I CAN'T HIT THE FIRST MARKS, I CAN'T BRING IT TO YOU ALL AND TELL YOU I CAN, BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN AND IMPACTING EQUITABLE ACCESS WOULD THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM. ESPECIALLY SINCE IF WE REMEMBER ON THIS, ON THIS LAST SNOW DAY, IT CAME THE DAY WE WERE SUPPOSED TO RETURN, WHICH MEANS WE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET ANYTHING OUT TO KIDS ANYWAYS. I MEAN, I KNOW THIS IS A BIGGER CONVERSATION, BUT YOU'VE GOT TO PREPARE FOR A WAY PRIOR TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
YOU'RE GOING TO BE SENDING THIS STUFF IN JANUARY AND DECEMBER.
BUT YEAH, I'M CURIOUS. SO YOU ARE YOU I THINK I'M HEARING YOU RIGHT.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE, IF SNOW IS PREDICTED, THEN WE CAN PREPARE.
WELL, TO ME, LEARNING PACKETS. YEAH. YOU WOULD START IN LEARNING PACKETS.
YEAH. I'M JUST I JUST FIND IT ODD THAT OTHER COUNTIES ARE DOING THAT, AND WE GOT WAY MORE BETTER INTERNET COVERAGE COMPARED TO OTHERS. SO SOMEBODY ELSE [INAUDIBLE]. YEAH, I CAN ONLY SPEAK.
FOR WHAT? AND THEN I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION ACTUALLY FOR THE CALENDARS.
AND IT'S JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, WHY ON DRAFT TO THE TEACHERS GO AN EXTRA DAY [INAUDIBLE].
SO LIKE THE DRAFT ONE, THEY GET OFF ON THE MONDAY THE 15TH, BUT DRAFT TWO, THEY DON'T.
THEY GO TO FRIDAY LIKE I'M SURE IT'S JUST SOME DAY IN THERE SOMEWHERE, BUT I WAS JUST CURIOUS.
SO ONE STARTS BEFORE LABOR DAY AND ONE STARTS AFTER.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? NO. SO AT THE END IN JUNE, THE TEACHERS, THEIR LAST DAY FOR DRAFT ONE IS THE 15TH AND THAT IS THE BEFORE. SO CAN YOU PULL THEM UP FOR ME PLEASE I CAN'T, I DON'T. SORRY.
SO LIKE THE LAST DAY IS THE 15TH ON THAT ONE FOR TEACHERS.
JUST ONE DAY AFTER THEY COME OUT, THEY COME ONE DAY, RIGHT? AND THEN ON DRAFT TWO, THEY ACTUALLY GO TO THE 19TH, WHICH IS THAT FRIDAY.
THEY GET ALL WEDNESDAY THE KIDS DO AND THEY GO TO IS IT OURS? NO. THAT'S [INAUDIBLE]. ADJUSTMENT [INAUDIBLE].
RIGHT? [INAUDIBLE] IT WAS ORIGINALLY I DO REMEMBER, BUT I HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK. IT'S THE SAME NUMBER OF DAYS.
I BELIEVE THAT WE HAD SEMESTER ONE HAD BECAUSE OF OKAY, NOW I REMEMBER IT.
IT TAKES ME A MINUTE. NO. YOU'RE FINE. BECAUSE I KNEW IT WAS PROBABLY SOMETHING CRAZY.
WE GO TO FOR THE SEMESTER. WE WANTED TO HAVE A HALF DAY.
JANUARY 29TH AND TRANSITION DAY ON THE 30TH FOR NO TOUCH.
SO WE HAD TO SHORTEN THE EXTEND THE SEMESTER FOR FIRST SEMESTER AND THEN ADD THAT DAY AT THE END.
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OKAY, SO IT'S STILL AT 180, RIGHT? RIGHT. [INAUDIBLE].THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. [INAUDIBLE] NO .
YOU'RE FINE. THAT'S WHY I WAS JUST CURIOUS. I SEE THAT AND I WAS LIKE, I HOPE THAT WASN'T A NO.
AND THAT WAS THE ONE THAT WE HAD TO. THAT WAS A MATHEMATICAL ERROR.
ANYWAYS, BECAUSE OF THAT TRANSITION DAY, IT JUST IT KEPT FALLING.
THIS CALENDAR PARTICULARLY, WHICH I'M GLAD IT WASN'T OVER, YOU KNOW, OVERWHELMINGLY APPROVED BY PICKED BY THE SSI AND CAC AND THEY KNEW THAT AND THE COMMUNITY IS BECAUSE EVERY TIME WE TURN AROUND AND TRY TO HIT A MARK ON A QUARTER PERIOD ENDING AND SEMESTER ENDING, IT JUST KEPT RUNNING INTO COMPLICATIONS THAT WOULD BE IMPACTFUL FOR FAMILIES AND TEACHERS.
I'D LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE SECOND CALENDAR, THE AFTER LABOR DAY CALENDAR.
I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S A COUPLE PERCENT DIFFERENCE, BUT I'VE SAID IN THE PAST THAT IF WE CAN DO A POST LABOR DAY CALENDAR, I AM IN FAVOR OF IT. I UNDERSTAND LAST YEAR IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME JUST BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE VACATION DAYS WERE AROUND CHRISTMAS TIME.
BUT TO ME THIS YEAR IT JUST THAT THIS YEAR WITH THE FIRST FALLING ON THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH, I FEEL LIKE IF WE'RE GOING TO DO POST LABOR DAY, WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE THE OPTION TO DO IT.
BUT I THINK THIS YEAR IS ONE OF THE YEARS WE CAN DO IT AND I FEEL THAT IT WAS A VERY NARROW RACE.
WHEN YOU'RE TALKING JUST A PERCENT OR TWO OF THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED.
SO WE HAVE HAD MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT HAVE ASKED FOR POST LABOR DAY, AND I THINK THAT THIS IS THE YEAR THAT AS A BOARD, WE CAN DO POST LABOR DAY. SO IF ANYBODY DOESN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE DRAFT TWO AS THE SCHOOL YEAR CALENDAR FOR NEXT YEAR AND SEE WHERE IT FALLS.
[INAUDIBLE]. WE NEED A SECOND, PLEASE. AND CAN I SEE THE CIRCLE AGAIN? SURE. [INAUDIBLE]. CAN I ASK A QUESTION? WHAT IS THE 48.4% TOTAL EMPLOYEE GROUPS MEAN? TOTAL EMPLOYEE GROUPS. IT'S IN PARENTHESES UNDER EMPLOYEE.
IT'S WAS THEY WERE EITHER AN EMPLOYEE AND A PARENT OR THEY WERE JUST AN EMPLOYEE.
MISS BARRY, AM I CORRECT ON? [INAUDIBLE].
36 AND THE 14. [INAUDIBLE]. I GOT TO SEE YOU NOW.
ARE YOU A PARENT AND EMPLOYEE ? [INAUDIBLE] SO WE NEED A SECOND FOR MR. JONES. MOTION. I'LL SECOND IT. I MEAN, I'M FAIRLY TRANSPARENT THAT I'M A AFTER LABOR DAY START RIGHT AFTER LABOR DAY START KIND OF SPACE. YOU KNOW, I WORRY ABOUT OUR TEACHERS COMING BACK THAT EARLY AND BEING HAVING SUMMER AND WITH A FULL JULY OF SUMMER CAMP AND KIDS IN THE BUILDINGS, I THINK IF WE COULD GIVE THEM A FEW MORE DAYS AND HAVE THAT LONG WEEKEND AVAILABLE FOR FAMILIES, I AM HEARING THAT FAMILIES WOULD PREFER THAT I WASN'T GOING TO, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING OUT BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT I HAVE HEARD AS WELL.
SO I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. ANY DISCUSSION QUESTIONS? I DON'T HAVE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. I MEAN I GOT NOTHING.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. OKAY. I WORK SHIFT WORK.
SO THEN WE NEED A VOTE. DOESN'T MATTER TO ME.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? I ABSTAIN. OH, YES, CAN I ABSTAIN TOO? [INAUDIBLE] AN OPTION? YES. I'M ABSTAINING WITH THREE.
OKAY, SO THE MOTION CARRIES FOR THE FIRST DAY FOR DRAFT TWO.
OKAY. OF THE CALENDAR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY AND WE WILL MOVE ON MR. MENGEL. HE'S ALL EXCITED UP THERE RIGHT AWAY.
GOOD EVENING PRESIDENT. IT'S BEEN A VERY LONG DAY. YOU HAVE NO IDEA.
THE COLONEL RICHARDSON MIDDLE SCHOOL'S ROOF PROJECT THAT IS SLATED FOR THIS SUMMER.
IT'S GOING TO BE A FULL ROOF REPLACEMENT, TEAR OFF AND FULL REPLACEMENT.
THE BUDGET IS $3.5 MILLION. GARLAND DBS INCORPORATED ACT AS OUR GENERAL CONTRACTOR.
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CONTRACTOR. BLESS YOU. THEY WILL ALSO DO ALL THE BIDDING FOR THE SUBCONTRACTORS.THE SUBCONTRACTORS WILL ACTUALLY DO THE WORK FOR THE ROOF.
AND IF WE CAN GO TO THE BID SURVEY PAGE. YOU'LL SEE ALL FIVE CONTRACTORS THAT WERE PRESENT AND YOU'LL SEE WHAT THE BIDS THEY HAVE SUBMITTED.
JBK CONTRACTING WAS THE LOW BID AT $3,399,755.
ALSO BE NOTED THAT THERE WERE $100,000 UNDER BUDGET.
JBK HAS DONE THREE OF THE FOUR ROOFS IN THE RECENT FOUR YEARS.
THEY ARE A VERY GOOD COMPANY TO WORK WITH. VERY EASY.
THEY STAND BY THEIR WORK. WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH THEM.
I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT TO RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD.
JBK CONTRACTING. SO THIS PROJECT IS SLATED TO BEGIN MID JUNE AND BE COMPLETED BY MID-AUGUST.
MINUS ANY KIND OF PUNCH LIST ITEMS THAT MAY INCUR.
BUT WE'RE HOPING TO GET THIS DONE, AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THIS DONE IN ABOUT TWO MONTHS. REALLY? NO PROBLEM. THE FISCAL IMPACT FOR CPPS IS ZERO BECAUSE THIS IS FULLY FUNDED. WE'RE NOT FULLY FUNDED. SORRY. THIS IS FUNDED BY IC'S HEALTHY SCHOOL FACILITIES FUND.
WE ARE STILL ENJOYING A VERY ROBUST COST SPLIT BETWEEN STATE AND LOCAL OF 94.6, MEANING THAT 94% OF THE COST WILL COME FROM THE STATE AND 6% COME FROM COUNTY LOCAL. SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THAT MEANS THE STATE WOULD PAY 3.195 MILLION FOR THIS PROJECT, AND CAROLINE COUNTY WOULD PAY $205,000.
THIS OVERALL IS A MEDIUM SIZED ROOF ABOUT 69,000FT².
WE DO HAVE ONE ROOF THAT WAS A MEMBRANE, AND THAT WAS LAST SUMMER'S PRESTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
THE REASON WHY THAT WAS BECAUSE WE HAVE WEIGHT RESTRICTIONS.
BECAUSE THE SOLAR PANELS WERE ON THE ROOF. YOU CAN'T PUT ALL THE TAR.
WITH THIS ROOF ALSO IS A 30 YEAR WARRANTY, LIKE ALL THE OTHER ROOFS.
SO WE'RE LOOKING TO BEGIN EARNEST ON THAT AS SOON AS JUNE.
SO IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY KIND OF QUESTIONS, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD THAT YOU APPROVE JBK CONTRACTING AS THE SUBCONTRACTOR UNDER GARLAND. TO DO THE ROOF AT COLONEL RICHARDSON MIDDLE SCHOOL.
HIGH SCHOOL. COLONEL RICHARDSON MIDDLE SCHOOL.
ANY QUESTIONS OF BOARD MEMBERS? I'M JUST GLAD TO HEAR THAT.
YOU KNOW, THEY CONTINUE TO DO A GOOD JOB. IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S A WINNER FOR US.
YEAH, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GO WITH MR. [INAUDIBLE] RECOMMENDS.
I SECOND. YOU'RE PLEASED WITH WHAT THEY'VE DONE BEFORE? YES, THEY DO GREAT WORK. IF WE CAN TRUST THAT.
YES. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU, MR. MITCHELL. AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PIECE.
[5. Reports and Presentations]
SURE. SO MY UPDATE TONIGHT WILL BE RATHER BRIEF WITH BUDGET DEVELOPMENT. IT WILL TIE A LITTLE BIT INTO THE LEGISLATIVE UPDATE.BUT AS OF THIS POINT, WE DO NOT HAVE REVISED NUMBERS FROM THE STATE IN TERMS OF OUR REVENUE.
SO WE'RE STILL REFINING OUR BUDGET, AS THE BOARD IS AWARE.
I FINISHED UP ALL OF MY BUDGET PRESENTATIONS WITH OUR SCHOOLS.
WENT WELL. IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO TALK TO STAFF ABOUT WHERE OUR REVENUE COMES FROM AND HOW WE USE IT.
WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION ABOUT OUR PRIORITY REALLY BEING OUR PEOPLE THIS YEAR, AND WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE NEGOTIATIONS PROCESS, AS THE BOARD IS AWARE, WITH OUR EMPLOYEE GROUPS AND HOPE TO HAVE SOME FINAL THINGS HAPPENING HERE REALLY SOON WILL BE GREAT TO BRING BEFORE THE BOARD.
WITH THAT, WE KNOW THAT WE ARE FOCUSING ON OUR PEOPLE.
SO NEARLY ALL REVENUES WILL THAT WE'RE EXPECTING WILL BE GOING TOWARDS KIND OF ENHANCING OUR EMPLOYEE EXPERIENCE AND PACKAGE FOR ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEE GROUPS. AS WELL AS COVERING OTHER THINGS THAT ARE JUST COST OF DOING BUSINESS INCREASES AND CONTRACTS AND THOSE THINGS THAT WE KNOW WE HAVE TO HANDLE. BUT THE BUDGET THAT I WILL BE PRESENTING TO YOU IN MID-APRIL WILL NOT BE A STAFF HEAVY BUDGET OF NEW STAFFING POSITIONS WITH EVERYTHING REALLY GOING INTO OUR CURRENT EMPLOYEE GROUP. SO WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK THROUGH THAT.
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THINGS. WE'RE CONTINUING TO GO THROUGH. WE DO KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOME STAFFING POSITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ASKED FOR, IN PARTICULAR IN THE MAINTENANCE AREA AS WELL.THAT WE'RE NOT GIVING UP AND SAYING, NOPE, NOT DOING IT.
OUR MAINTENANCE STAFF IS DOING A FANTASTIC JOB, BUT THEY'RE RUNNING AT ABOUT 50% OF WHAT THE CAPACITY SHOULD BE FOR A DISTRICT OF OUR SIZE AND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT THEY MAINTAIN. SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO REFINE THAT AND PUT US IN A GOOD POSITION TO COME TO THE BOARD.
MID APRIL WITH AN FY 26 BUDGET THAT MEETS MEETS ALL OF OUR NEEDS TO MOVE IT IN THAT DIRECTION.
SO THAT'S OUR BUDGET UPDATE FOR NOW AND HOPEFULLY WE HAVE NUMBERS IN APRIL.
OKAY. THANK YOU. MISS HIGNETT WITH OUR FINANCE REPORT.
GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT WAYMAN. DOCTOR SIMMONS, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
OVERALL, WE ARE IN LINE WITH SPENDING IN PRIOR YEARS.
BEFORE YOU IS THE FINANCE REPORT FOR THE MONTH ENDING FEBRUARY 28TH, 2025.
THE ONLY NEW OVERAGE THIS MONTH IS RELATED TO TRANSPORTATION, SALARIES AND WAGES.
AND THAT IS DUE TO BUS DRIVER SALARIES. IT'S NO CAUSE FOR CONCERN IS ONLY OVER BY 1.60% OF WHAT WE BUDGETED. SO OVERALL, WE'RE IN A GOOD POSITION FOR THIS POINT IN THE FISCAL YEAR AND IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SUPERINTENDENT'S REPORT.
LEGISLATIVE UPDATE, MISS WAYMAN FIRST. YES. I'M SORRY.
THIS ONE IS KIND OF HOT OFF THE PRESSES. AND TOMORROW WILL BE AN INTERESTING SESSION.
OUR INTERESTING MEETING. SO THE GOVERNOR'S BILL CAME OUT OF COMMITTEE ON THE HOUSE SIDE.
NOT ON THE SENATE SIDE YET. WITH SIGNIFICANT AMENDMENTS.
SOME OF THOSE AMENDMENTS I'LL RUN THROUGH THIS LITERALLY CAME OUT TODAY, AND THEY WILL BE DEBATING IT TOMORROW IN THE HOUSE TO DECIDE WHERE THEY WILL GO WITH IT AND AGAIN, THE SENATE STILL HAS TO DO THEIR PART. THE HOUSE RESTORED ALL OF THE CUTS TO PUBLIC, AND THERE'S NO CUTS TO THE FOUNDATION NEXT YEARS AND YOU'VE HEARD ME USE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, THE $163. IT'S A COLLABORATIVE PLANNING TIME.
IN THEIR AMENDMENT THAT CAME OUT, THEY DID NOT ATTACH IT TO THE COLLABORATIVE PLANNING TIME.
THEY JUST TOOK THE TOOK THEIR PEN, CHANGED THE AMOUNT FOR FOUNDATION IN FY 26 AND ADDED 163 TO IT.
SO THERE'S NO CONNECTION TO COLLABORATIVE PLANNING TIME FOR FY 26.
THERE ARE SOME AMENDMENTS TO CHANGE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE TO WHAT THE SCOPE OF LAST YEAR'S GROW YOUR OWN BILL THAT WAS PAST SO IT DOESN'T EXPAND IT AS, AS BROADLY THE RECOMMENDED ACADEMIC EXCELLENCE PROGRAM, WHICH IS A LOT OF THE COACHING AND TRAINING FOR TEACHERS FOR RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION, IS STILL IN JUST DOWNSIZED. THE HOUSE COMMITTEES DID REMOVE THE LEADERSHIP ACADEMY PROGRAM THAT WAS IN THE BUDGET TO ADD A NEW LEADERSHIP PROGRAM IN THEY DID ADJUST COMMUNITY SCHOOLS.
THERE'S NO THEY'RE RECOMMENDING NO PAUSE TO COMMUNITY SCHOOLS FUNDING.
THEY ARE RECOMMENDING A REDUCTION AND THIS WILL BE INTERESTING FOR CAROLINE COUNTY.
WITH WHAT HAPPENS IF THIS REMAINS ON THE SENATE SIDE, THEY RECOMMENDED THE NUMBER OF SCHOOLS FOR A SCHOOL SYSTEM TO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO USE SOME MONEY OFF THE TOP OF YOUR COMMUNITY SCHOOLS ALLOTMENT FOR DISTRICT WIDE SUPPORT FROM 40 SCHOOLS, WHICH WAS ABSURD. WE WOULD NEVER, EVER BE THERE.
THE ORIGINAL BILL SAID TWO. THEY DIDN'T LIKE THAT.
SO THEY PUT IT AT TEN. NO, WE'LL HAVE NINE AND THAT'LL BE 100% OF OUR SCHOOLS NEXT YEAR.
SO I HAVE ALREADY SENT AN EMAIL TO OUR PERSON WITH THEM TO SAY, HEY, I'VE GOT A GREAT AMENDMENT
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TO CONSIDER FOR A SCHOOL SYSTEM OF OUR SIZE. WE WILL NEVER OBVIOUSLY HAVE TEN, BUT WE'RE AT 100%.SO I'M SUGGESTING A SMALL SCHOOL SYSTEM CARVE OUT.
YEAH. YEAH. THAT DOES IT BY PERCENTAGE IF YOU'RE A SMALL SCHOOL OR A SMALL SCHOOL SYSTEM.
SO WE'LL SEE. BUT WE'RE GOING TO TRY THAT ONE.
DO I THINK WHAT GOT PUT OUT OF THE COMMITTEE WILL MAKE IT WHEN WE'RE ALL SAID AND DONE.
NO, NOT AT ALL. WE ARE LIKE PROBABLY IN THE FIRST FIVE MILES OF THE MARATHON.
THIS THING IS GOING TO CHANGE A LOT. THE SENATE HASN'T TOUCHED IT YET.
BUT IT'S GOING TO BE BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH FOR QUITE A WHILE.
THEY HAVE TO DECIDE SOMETHING BY THE TIME SESSION CLOSES.
THE LONGER IT TAKES THEM TO GET THERE, THE LONGER IT TAKES US TO KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH MONEY.
SO WE STILL KIND OF KNOW OUR GUARDRAILS PROVIDED NOTHING SIGNIFICANT CHANGES.
BUT IT WAS INTERESTING. THIS LITERALLY CAME OUT.
WE'LL KEEP FOLLOWING IT. I'M SURE [INAUDIBLE] WILL BE AS WELL.
IT'S GOING TO KEEP CHANGING QUITE A BIT, OBVIOUSLY, AS THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT, BECAUSE WHEN THEY RESTORED THE CUTS, THERE WAS A GREAT ASK BY ONE OF THE EASTERN SHORE DELEGATES. AND IT WAS, WELL, I SEE YOU GUYS HAVE RESTORED THE CUTS.
HAVE YOU MADE THE ADJACENT FISCAL MOVES? AND IT WAS NO.
SO THEY'VE NOW GOT TO IF THEY'RE PUTTING MONEY BACK IN, WHERE DO THEY TAKE FROM WILL BE THE THING THAT THEY'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY FOR WHAT THEY ARE AMENDING. SO IT'S GOOD, BUT A WHOLE LONG WAY TO GO ON THAT ONE AND WE'RE HEARING THIS IS PROBABLY THE ALL EDUCATION BILL. FOCUS IS ALL ON THE GOVERNOR'S BILL AND WHAT HAPPENS WITH IT.
NOT SO MUCH ON A LOT OF THE OTHER BILLS THAT ARE BEING DISCUSSED AND DEBATED, BUT WE'LL SEE.
I'LL TRY TO LISTEN IN TO THE DEBATE TOMORROW AND SEE HOW IT GOES.
OKAY. YEP. OKAY. SO SUPER INTERESTING AND IT WILL.
AND SUPERINTENDENTS REPORT. THIS IS EXCITING.
MRS JOHNSON. GOT TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT TODAY.
AND I KNOW SOME OF YOU OTHERS HAVE AS WELL. THANK YOU, MRS. BARTZ, FOR BEING HERE. THIS WEEK. LAST WEEK WHEN WE DID THE.
WORKING THROUGH OUR APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM, BUT ALSO HIGHLIGHT WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH APPRENTICESHIPS IN OUR COUNTY AND SO THESE ARE PICTURES OF SOME OF OUR STUDENTS WHO ARE APPRENTICES. SO WE'VE GONE FROM IN THE CLASS OF 2023.
SO TWO YEARS AGO WE HAD TWO GRADUATES. WAS IT THAT PARTICIPATED IN APPRENTICESHIP THIS YEAR? FOR CLASS OF 25. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TEN ANTICIPATED.
MR. COOK HAS DONE A FANTASTIC JOB OF GETTING IN FRONT OF EVERY COMMUNITY ENTITY HE CAN FIND THAT MAY BE WILLING TO HIRE HIGH SCHOOL AGE STUDENTS TO LEARN A PROFESSION WHILE BEING STUDENTS AND EARN HIGH SCHOOL CREDIT.
IT HELPS US HELPS TO SUPPORT THE PROGRAM WITH BREEDING, EXCAVATING.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HAD A BUSINESS HAVE A SECOND ROUND OF APPRENTICES, WHICH IS AWESOME.
I ACTUALLY WAS TALKING TO A PARENT IN OUR COMMUNITY LAST WEEK WHO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT OUR KIDS, AND IT WAS, YOU KNOW, MY SON IS SO INTERESTED AND CANNOT WAIT FOR AN OPPORTUNITY.
OUR SON'S IN THE AUTO PROGRAM. AND IT WAS HE HAS HIS SIGHTS ON THE AVIATION MECHANIC APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM WITH THE PARTNERSHIP YOU ALL HAVE CREATED. AND THAT'S SOMETHING I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW. YOU WOULD NOT BE GETTING THAT EXPERIENCE IF IT WASN'T FOR THE WORK THAT REALLY ERIC'S BEEN LAYING OUT BUILDING THIS PROGRAM OUT AS WE MOVE FURTHER INTO BLUEPRINT.
THESE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WE SHOULD BE WORKING TO PROVIDE FOR OUR KIDS AND BUILDING OUT.
IT DOESN'T TAKE AWAY FROM OUR CTE PROGRAMS. IT ABSOLUTELY ENHANCES THEM.
THE ONE STUDENT WHOSE PARENT I WAS TALKING TO WILL BE A COMPLETER OF OUR AUTOMOTIVE PROGRAM,
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BUT HE WILL BE ABLE TO GO FROM THERE INTO AN APPRENTICESHIP WITH THE AVIATION AUTO MECHANICS.WE HAVE OTHER STUDENTS WHO WE DON'T HAVE CTE PATHWAYS FOR, BUT THEY CAN GO INTO A APPRENTICESHIP APPROVED APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM AND GET ON THE JOB TRAINING AND THE RELATED ARTS FIELD AND LITERALLY COME OUT WITH THOSE CREDITS AS WELL.
WE KIND OF JUST NEEDED THOSE FIRST FEW BUSINESSES THAT WERE WILLING TO TRY IT AND ON THE HORIZON, WE ARE ACTUALLY WORKING THROUGH DEVELOPING AN APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM FOR PRE-SERVICE TEACHING FOR FOLKS TO MOVE INTO THE EDUCATION FIELD AS WELL. MR. COOK IS WORKING ON THAT NOW, BORROWING FROM A COUNTY ON THE WESTERN SHORE THAT CREATED THIS.
SO REALLY EXCITING AND THRILLED TO SEE THAT WORK HAPPENING FOR OUR KIDS.
GREAT. LOOKS LIKE AN EXCITING OPPORTUNITY. IT'S AWESOME.
YES . OKAY. WE'LL MOVE TO BOARD MEMBER REPORTS.
I THINK BOTH OF THEM WERE INTERESTED IN CULINARY ARTS.
SO THAT WAS KIND OF FUN. NO ONE WAS CULINARY ARTS AND TECHNOLOGY, BUT THEY WERE BOTH GOING TO BE INTERNING WITH FOLKS AT CSPS, WHICH MADE IT KIND OF EVEN MORE SPECIAL. IT WAS NEAT TO SEE, AND I'M GLAD THAT DOCTOR SIMMONS HIGHLIGHTED THAT ON HIS SUPERINTENDENT REPORT TONIGHT, BECAUSE I AGREE, THERE ARE SOME REALLY GREAT WORK PREPARING OUR KIDS FOR WHAT COMES NEXT AND THAT'S EXCITING FROM SOMEONE WHO GRADUATED FROM CAROLINE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY I FOUND MY WAY, BUT IT'S NICE TO KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME WE'RE NOT HOME AS PARENTS, LIFTING ALL OF THAT UP AND BEING ABLE TO TALK TO LINDSAY MCCORMICK AND HER GROUP ABOUT OUR STUDENTS INTERESTS, AND FOR THEM TO REALLY GO OUT AND FIND OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM TO SEE IT BEFORE THEY, YOU KNOW, DECIDE THEY WANT TO DO IT. SO THAT WAS REALLY NEAT.
I JUMPED IN TO HELP OUT. SO I WALKED SOME GRANDPARENTS AROUND THE SCHOOL AND ONLY GOT LOST AT GREENSBORO ONCE, WHICH IS A LITTLE EMBARRASSING BECAUSE I WORKED THERE. BUT IT WAS NEAT.
THERE WAS A THE SCHOOL DID A GREAT JOB. THAT'S A LOT OF KIDS AND A LOT OF GRANDPARENTS AND IT WAS LIKE A WELL-OILED MACHINE UP THERE, GETTING THE GRANDPARENTS IN AND OUT AND THE KIDS WERE REALLY EXCITED AND I GOT TO READ A BOOK ABOUT FROGGY GETTING A NEW BABY SISTER, AND IT DID NOT ELICIT ANY ODD QUESTIONS. SO I FELT LIKE THAT WAS A WIN, TOO.
YEAH, IT WAS A BUSY MONTH, BUT THOSE WERE PROBABLY THE HIGHLIGHTS FOR ME.
MR. I WAS GOING TO ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT MY MEETING FROM MONDAY FOR LEGISLATIVE, BUT THAT COMING OUT TODAY KIND OF THAT CHANGED EVERYTHING. YEAH, THAT WAS AND THAT WAS THE THING MAEVE SAID THAT THEY WANTED TO BE.
THEY WERE KIND OF TRYING TO PUSH A, YOU KNOW, KNOCKING ON THEIR DOOR EVERY DAY.
YEAH. YOU KNOW, TO PUSH AND MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THAT STIRRED A LITTLE BIT, BUT I DOUBT IT.
BUT NOW THE ONLY OTHER THING I WENT TO THE HIGH SCHOOL PARENTS NIGHT FOR MY CHILD.
YEAH, THAT WAS INTERESTING. THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE I'VE BEEN IN SCHOOL.
SO THAT WAS NICE. GREAT. OKAY. MR. JONES. WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THANKS TO TROY.
HE ATTENDED TWO OF THE LEGISLATIVE MEETINGS. I WAS UNABLE TO, SO I WAS GLAD TO GET AN UPDATE FROM YOU ABOUT WHAT WENT ON, BUT I'M. I WAS REALLY GLAD THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO [INAUDIBLE] PICK UP MY SLACK FOR ME.
AND IT WAS ANOTHER GOOD GROUP AND A, GOOD DAY.
THE, STUDENTS THAT I WENT WITH GOT TO VISIT WITH SOME OF OUR DELEGATES AND SENATOR AND THEY ALSO GOT TO TALK TO THE SECRETARY OF AGRICULTURE AND MARYLAND AND GOT TO AGAIN, WATCH SOME OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS.
AND IT'S A YOUNGER GROUP OF STUDENTS THIS YEAR.
AND I THINK IT WAS PROBABLY THEIR FIRST OPPORTUNITY, PROBABLY TO SEE THAT YOU KNOW, LAWS BEING MADE, LIKE IN ACTION AND THERE'S JUST A IT'S A REALLY GOOD EXPERIENCE FOR THEM TO GET TO DO THAT.
SO THANKFUL TO LIKE MRS. NEAL AND THE FFA [INAUDIBLE], YOU KNOW, LETTING THAT CONTINUE.
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AND IT WAS JUST A IT'S GOOD FOR THEM TO SEE THAT WHAT GOES ON.THAT'S IT. OKAY. MR. I FEEL LIKE FEBRUARY FLEW BY.
I WAS I ATTENDED THE BLACK HISTORY MONTH EVENT AT NORTH CAROLINE, I GOT TO SEE MISS WAYMAN AND DOCTOR SIMMONS SINGING IN THE CHOIR, SINGING THEIR HEARTS OUT. IT WAS GREAT TO WATCH AND YOU KNOW, IT WAS THANKFUL.
I WAS ALSO RECOGNIZED ON BEHALF OF HIS HOPE MINISTRIES THAT I WORK AT.
SO I HOPE TO GO CHECK THAT OUT. SO I THINK YEAH, IT HAS BEEN A BUSY MONTH.
I, WE THREE OF US ATTENDED THE MAY LEGISLATIVE DAY EVENT AND I WAS AT GREENSBORO FRIDAY READING AS WELL, AND THE PROGRAM AT NORTH HIGH LAST THURSDAY, WHICH WAS REALLY A LOT OF FUN.
IT WAS, I ENJOYED IT A LOT AND THEN I VISITED WITH DOCTOR HOLLOWAY COLONEL RICHARDSON.
SO IT HAS, YOU KNOW, FEBRUARY IS A SHORT MONTH, BUT WE WERE ALL BUSY, SO [INAUDIBLE] I'M GLAD YOU'RE STILL SIT NEXT TO ME AFTER OUR QUIET TIME TOGETHER. I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR THE YOUTUBE.
OH, HE'S GOT A WHOLE BUNCH OF VIDEOS THERE SOMEWHERE. NO, I KEEP WATCHING FOR IT.
OH, BOY. IT WAS A LOT OF FUN. IT WAS FUTURE ITEMS FOR BOARD ACTION.
[6. Discussion of Items for Future Board Action]
[8. Upcoming Meetings and Events]
WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LISTED. WE HAVE NO, WE HAVE A THIRD READER THAT WILL COME NEXT MONTH.NOW. YES, YES. ANY UNFINISHED BUSINESS BOARD MEMBERS? AND OF COURSE, WE HAVE OUR PAGE WHERE WE HAVE OUR UPCOMING EVENTS TO SIGN UP FOR AND THERE'S PLENTY COMING UP.
AND THE SPORTS YOU'RE GETTING READY FOR THAT GRADUATION.
WELL, YES, I GOT AN EMAIL ABOUT MY REGALIA. GOOD ANSWER.
VERY GOOD. YES. OKAY. STAND BY. IT'LL BE HERE QUICKER THAN WE KNOW.
YEAH. OUR NEXT BOARD MEETING IS OUR WORK SESSION, WHICH IS THE 18TH AT 08:30 IN THE MORNING HERE AT THE BOARD OFFICE.
SO IT WILL BE A DATA HEAVY MORNING. OKAY. GOOD ACADEMIC DATA TO SHARE.
OKAY, SO I NEED A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT. I MOTION THAT EVERYBODY'S READY.
I'LL SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. NO OPPOSITION.
THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.