Nov 15, 2022 Board Work Session

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SORRY TO CUT IT OFF. I KNOW.

SOMEBODY IN THE WORLD IS WATCHING.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

IT'S NOVEMBER 15TH, ABOUT 6:02.

[1. Opening Items]

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER? SO MOVE. MOTION BY MR. BARTON, SECOND BY MR. DIGIACOMO. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

MS. WAYMAN'S ABSENT TONIGHT.

SHE HAD A CONFLICT.

SO WITH THAT, LET'S STAND AND SAY THE PLEDGE, PLEASE.

GREAT. THANK YOU, EVERYONE.

ALL RIGHT. SO IT IS A WORK SESSION, THE SECOND, THIRD, EXCUSE ME, THIRD TUESDAY OF THE MONTH.

BUT WE DO HAVE SOME BUSINESS TO TAKE CARE OF, WHICH IS ON THE TENTATIVE AGENDA, WHICH IS SENT OUT.

AND THEN WE HAVE OUR DISCUSSION ITEM BLUEPRINT FOR MARYLAND'S FUTURE UPDATE.

AFTER THAT, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED? SO MOVE.

MOTION BY MR. JONES, SECOND BY MR. DIGIACOMO. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

AYE. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO GET, TAKE CARE OF THIS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

DR. SIMMONS, ARE YOU INTRODUCING THIS? YES, I CAN, JIM, BUT ACTUALLY, I'LL JUST ASK FOR A POINT OF ORDER, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.

AND YOU'LL PROBABLY BE FRUSTRATED WITH ME FOR DOING THIS, SO I APOLOGIZE.

IT IS YOUR LAST MEETING.

LAST OFFICIAL MEETING OF OUR BOARD OF EDUCATION.

AND I KNOW WE SPOKE AND YOU DIDN'T WANT ANY BIG.

SO, RESPECT YOUR WISHES, BUT I DON'T WANT TO LET THE MOMENT GO BY WITHOUT SAYING A FEW WORDS ON BEHALF OF THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AND MYSELF AS WELL.

WE DO HAVE A LITTLE SOMETHING FOR YOU, AND WE'LL, WE CAN DO THAT AFTER THE MEETING.

BUT, JIM, YOU AND I HAVE BEEN THROUGH A LOT OVER THE YEARS, BOTH IN MY VARIOUS ROLES, AND YOU REALLY HAVE BROUGHT INCREDIBLE VALUE TO THE BOARD.

YOUR PERSPECTIVE AS A PARENT, PERSPECTIVE AS A COMMUNITY MEMBER HAS BEEN UNMATCHED AND REALLY APPRECIATED FOR ME PERSONALLY.

WHETHER I RECOGNIZED IT AT THE TIME, IT'S DEFINITELY YOUNGER AND LESS WISER WE KIND OF MATURE INTO SOME OF THAT OVER TIME.

BUT ONE THING IS FOR SURE, JIM, YOU'VE ALWAYS PUT ALL THE KIDS IN THIS COUNTY FIRST, WHETHER NORTH OR SOUTH.

YOU'VE PUT THEM ALL FIRST.

YOU'VE KEPT THAT LENS.

YOU'VE NEVER LOST SIGHT OF THAT LENS.

YOU'VE HELPED BRING US BACK TO IT AT TIMES WHEN WE'VE NEEDED IT.

AND YOU ALSO HAVE NOT STEPPED AWAY FROM YOUR VALUES AND IN A WORLD WHERE THAT IS NOT THE REGULAR OR THE NORM, IT IS GREATLY APPRECIATED.

I'M GOING TO MISS IT.

WE HAVE A COMPETENT PERSON COMING IN AND TROY WILL DO FINE.

WE HAVE A VERY GOOD, VERY STRONG BOARD.

BUT I'M GOING TO MISS YOUR LEADERSHIP.

I'M GOING TO MISS YOUR MENTORSHIP.

I'M GOING TO MISS YOUR FRIENDSHIP IN THIS ROLE.

I KNOW YOU'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

YOU'LL BE AROUND. I THINK YOU'LL STILL TAKE MY CALLS.

[LAUGHTER] WE'LL SEE HOW THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS GO.

BUT I THINK YOU'LL STILL TAKE MY CALLS.

BUT, JIM, I JUST, I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE FOR EVERYBODY HERE.

APPRECIATE YOUR CONFIDENCE IN ME AND YOUR SUPPORT FOR ME AS WELL OVER THE LAST 18 MONTHS WITH AGAIN, WITH JUST THE MENTORSHIP.

AND IT'S MUCH APPRECIATED.

SO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

AND, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE IT.

LIKE I TOLD DEREK, YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN OTHER BOARD MEMBERS GO OUT AND IT SHOULD, IT SHOULD BE ACKNOWLEDGED.

BUT, YOU KNOW, LIFE'S TOO SHORT.

YOU KNOW, PEOPLE NEED TO BE HOME WITH THEIR FAMILIES ON A COLD, RAINY NOVEMBER NIGHT.

NOT OUT HERE, YOU KNOW, AND THEY CAN, LIKE YOU SAID, I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

THEY CAN ALWAYS FIND ME IF THEY NEED TO FIND ME FOR SOMETHING, FOR, YOU KNOW, AS A THANK YOU OR.

HEY, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? AND TO YOUR POINT, YOU KNOW, WE BOTH WORKED WITH A LOT OF A LOT OF GOOD BOARDS, A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE.

BUT WITH MY KIDS MOVING ON AND OUT OF THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AND THESE INDIVIDUALS AND I TOLD MICHELLE TODAY WHEN SHE CALLED ME MS. WAYMAN, IT'S WITH SO MUCH MORE CONFIDENCE THAT I CAN, YOU KNOW, KNOW IT'S IN GOOD HANDS.

THE SYSTEM IS IN GOOD HANDS FROM THE BOARD LEVEL, GOOD HANDS ATTHE ADMINISTRATIVE LEVEL.

IT'S ALWAYS BEEN IN GOOD HANDS AT THE TEACHING LEVEL.

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SO, AND WITH THESE GOOD PEOPLE SITTING HERE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THOSE BOARDS THAT ARE ASKED THE TOUGH QUESTIONS THAT SOMETIMES YOU CAN HAVE A NICE GROUP OF PEOPLE, BUT YOU CAN'T BE TOO SHY TO ASK A TOUGH QUESTION.

AND I KNOW THIS BOARD'S THOSE TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT'LL WORK WELL WITH YOU.

SO IT'S REALLY, REALLY A GOOD TIME TO STEP AWAY AND TAKE A BREATHER.

AND WHETHER, YOU KNOW, NOT THAT I KNOW ANYTHING OTHER THAN INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE AND YEAH, THAT'S NORMAL OR, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S HAPPENED BEFORE, IT HASN'T.

YOU KNOW MY PHONE IS NOT CHANGING AND WOULD WELCOME ANY JUST, HEY HOW YOU DOING OR A QUESTION.

SO THANK YOU ALL.

THANKS TO THESE BOARD MEMBERS FOR STEPPING UP AND PASS ON TO THE NEW UNION REPS.

YOU KNOW PASS ON.

IT'S GOOD TO SEE, YOU KNOW, NEW FACES GETTING INVOLVED AND TO WORK WITH OUR NEW ADMINISTRATION TO, I JUST HOPE, HAVE A GREAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP MOVING FORWARD.

ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, POINT OF ORDER OVER.

YEAH. THANK YOU. FOR NOW, WE GO TO THE INDIVIDUAL ACTION ITEM.

[2.01 Approval of Modifications to the Negotiated Agreement Between the Caroline County Board of Education and the Caroline County Educators’ Association.]

SO I'M GOING TO PASS THIS TO DR.

ROB WILLOUGHBY, OUR SUPERVISOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES, TO GO THROUGH THE AGREEMENTS, THROUGH THE CONTRACT AND EXPLAIN KIND OF WHERE WE ARE AND SEEK THE BOARD'S APPROVAL TONIGHT.

PRESIDENT NEWCOMB, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, I'M VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE.

AND [INAUDIBLE], AS THE VICE PRESIDENT OF CCA IS ALSO HERE TONIGHT.

SO AS I'M GOING THROUGH, PLEASE JUMP IN, BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN A PROCESS THAT REALLY STARTED LAST FEBRUARY AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR QUITE A WHILE. AND SO I'M VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE TONIGHT WITH AN AGREEMENT FOR YOUR SIGNATURE AND YOUR APPROVAL.

OUR NEGOTIATION PROCESS, AS I SAID, STARTED LAST FEBRUARY IN EARNEST, AND WE MADE A GREAT DEAL OF PROGRESS THROUGH THAT WHEN YOU REALLY LOOK AT IT, YES, WE ENDED AN IMPASSE, BUT WE ENDED AN IMPASSE ON SALARY AND NOT ON A HOST OF OTHER THINGS THAT WE DID HAVE TABLE AGREEMENTS AS OF JULY.

SO IN THIS AGREEMENT, PLANNING TIME, WHICH HAS BEEN AN ASK, A REGULAR ASK, GOES TO 60 MINUTES OF INDIVIDUAL PLANNING TIME A DAY WITH A BLOCK OF NO LESS THAN 45.

AND IT WASN'T 45 MINUTES A DAY.

JUST SO YOU GUYS, A WEEKLY NUMBER THAT EQUALED OUT TO THAT.

IN THAT WE DID REMOVE THE LANGUAGE ABOUT RECESS SUPERVISION AND ELEMENTARY PRINCIPALS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT PLANNING TIME WITHOUT THE RECESS SUPERVISION THAT IS IN THERE CURRENTLY.

WE DID ADD AS FAR AS SPECIAL EDUCATION TEACHERS REALLY PUTTING INTO THE CONTRACT A PRACTICE THAT HAD BEEN IN PLACE IN MANY, IF NOT ALL, OF OUR BUILDINGS, WHERE AT TIMES WHEN THERE ARE CERTAIN DEMANDS OF PAPERWORK AND ASSESSMENT TAKING, BEING ABLE TO TAKE SOME TIME AWAY FROM TEACHING RESPONSIBILITIES TO COMPLETE THAT PAPERWORK WITH AN APPROVAL PROCESS.

SO THAT WAS ADDED. WE ALSO ADDED LANGUAGE AROUND NATIONAL BOARD CERTIFICATION, WHICH IS IN ACCORDANCE TO THE BLUEPRINT.

AND WE ALL KNOW THAT THERE IS A DEFINITION OF TEACHER IN THE BLUEPRINT.

AND IF YOU MEET THAT DEFINITION OF TEACHER AND YOU HOLD A NATIONAL BOARD CERTIFICATION, YOU RECEIVE AN EXTRA $10,000 ACCORDING TO THE LEGISLATION.

WHAT WE PUT IN HERE WAS THAT FOR OUR FOLKS THAT DO THAT BUT MIGHT NOT MEET THAT DEFINITION OF TEACHER, THERE WAS PREVIOUS LANGUAGE THAT ENHANCED THEIR SALARY BY $2,000 AND WE KEPT THAT IN. SO IF YOU MEET THE DEFINITION, YOU GET THE 10.

IF YOU DON'T MEET THE DEFINITION, WE'RE STILL GOING TO GIVE THE TWO.

AND IT REALLY IS THE DIFFERENCE OF THE STATE MATCH.

IF YOU'RE WHY THAT DIFFERENCE? IT REALLY IS THE DIFFERENCE OF THE STATE MATCH AND WHAT THE LOCAL FUNDING GOING THERE.

A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, AN ATTENDANCE INCENTIVE WAS PUT INTO OUR CONTRACT AND THEN WE ENDED UP WITH THE 100 YEAR PANDEMIC.

SO NOT THE GREATEST TIME TO PUT AN ATTENDANCE INCENTIVE IN.

SO WE DID TAKE THAT LANGUAGE OUT AND GO BACK TO A WELLNESS INCENTIVE.

WE HAD PREVIOUSLY WITH A COMMITMENT THAT WE WOULD TAKE THIS YEAR AND WRITE THAT WELLNESS INCENTIVE.

AND I'LL COME BACK TO THAT IN JUST A SECOND BECAUSE THAT WAS PART OF SALARY THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN A MINUTE.

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WE HAD A POSTING REQUIREMENT THAT THEY NEED TO BE POSTED FOR 21 DAYS AND HONESTLY, IT'S OLDER LANGUAGE.

SO IN THE WORLD OF EMAIL AND ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATION, WE BACK THAT UP TO 14 DAYS.

IT ALSO KEEPS US A LITTLE BIT MORE RESPONSIVE AND ABLE TO FILL POSITIONS QUICKER IN OUR WORLD.

TUITION WAIVER, SIMPLY CLARIFYING LANGUAGE THAT IT IS FOR FOLKS THAT ARE IN ANOTHER MARYLAND COUNTY AND NOT NECESSARILY OUT OF STATE.

WE SIGNED A MOU TO CREATE A WORKLOAD COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT TEACHER WORKLOAD.

WE ALSO SIGNED AN MOU TO CREATE A BLUEPRINT WORK GROUP.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT A MOU IS? A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING.

JUST A ONE YEAR AGREEMENT THAT WE WOULD HAVE THOSE COMMITTEES FOR THIS COMING YEAR.

AND THEN THROUGH THE PROCESS OF MEDIATION, WHICH I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYBODY WANTED TO GO THERE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT WAS A POSITIVE.

IT ENDED AS A POSITIVE EXPERIENCE.

WE CAME TO AN AGREEMENT, BOTH SIDES IN THE SAME ROOM SIGNED THE AGREEMENT.

SO IT WAS A POSITIVE EXPERIENCE.

AND I'LL JUST SPEAK, YOU KNOW, I FELT LIKE WE WERE PUSHED IN SOME WAYS TO THINK A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE THE BOX, WHICH I FOUND HELPFUL.

AND AS WE START TO, AS MR. NEWCOMB SAID, FORGE A NEW RELATIONSHIP WITH NEW FOLKS ON THE BOARD SIDE, NEW FOLKS ON THE ASSOCIATION SIDE, THAT SORT OF OUTSIDE THE BOX THINKING, IT IS HELPFUL.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD NECESSARILY WISH ON ANYONE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS TO GET TO THAT OUTSIDE OF THE BOX THINKING, BUT WE ARE BETTER OFF FOR IT AT THE END.

SO IN TERMS OF SALARY, WHICH WAS THE THE TOPIC THAT WAS PART OF THE MEDIATION, STARTING EFFECTIVE FEBRUARY 1, WE WILL HAVE A MIDYEAR 4.5% COLA INCREASE FOR TEACHERS.

IT WILL START SHOWING IN THEIR FEBRUARY 15TH PAY, BUT IT WILL BE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT OF A MID-YEAR 4.5.

WE HAVE 10 MONTH TEACHERS, 10 1/2 MONTH, 11 MONTH, 12 MONTH.

EVERYBODY'S GOT A DIFFERENT START POINT.

FEBRUARY 1, YOU WILL START TO SEE IT IN THAT FEBRUARY 15TH PAY.

THE CALCULATION WILL BE DONE BEHIND THE SCENES.

WE KNOW THAT A $1,500 RETENTION BONUS IS BEING PAID THROUGH LEADS MONEY IN THE PAYCHECK ON NOVEMBER 30TH.

SO THAT IS COMING UP. AND BECAUSE WE ARE SO LATE INTO THE YEAR OF THAT WELLNESS COMMITMENT THAT WE HAD, BY DECEMBER 31ST, WE ARE JUST GOING TO PAY EVERY EMPLOYEE A $200 WELLNESS BENEFIT, JUST PAY IT UP FRONT.

THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TIME TO CREATE THE PROGRAM, PUT THE PROGRAM OUT, HAVE FOLKS EARN POINTS TOWARDS THE PROGRAM.

SO WE HAD SOME MONEY BUDGETED FOR THAT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO PAY THAT BY DECEMBER 31ST.

WE ALSO COMMITTED TO LANGUAGE THAT SAYS THAT IN NEXT YEAR'S NEGOTIATIONS, SO NEGOTIATIONS THAT TAKE PLACE IN 2324, WE WILL NEGOTIATE A NEW PAY SCALE THAT SEEKS TO MAKE IT EASIER TO FIND YOUR PLACE ON THE SCALE AND ALSO TO SORT OF CLEAR UP SOME THINGS WHERE WE'VE HAD SOME MISSTEPS AND RESTORATIVE STEPS AND OTHER PLACEMENT ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN THERE.

SO WE'VE COMMITTED OURSELVES TO NEGOTIATE THAT ON 23-24, AND THAT WILL GO INTO EFFECT IN 24-25.

SO WHAT'S NOT IN THIS AGREEMENT THAT I ALSO THINK IS WORTH SAYING IS TO REMEMBER THAT OUR SUPPORT STAFF HAVE A ME TOO PLUS ONE. SO STARTING JULY ONE, ALL SUPPORT STAFF SAW A 1% INCREASE BECAUSE THEY GET WHATEVER THE TEACHERS GET PLUS ONE.

SO WE WENT AHEAD AND PAID THEM THEIR 1% STARTING JULY ONE.

BUT ALL SUPPORT STAFF WILL ALSO HAVE THAT MID-YEAR SALARY ENHANCEMENT STARTING FEBRUARY 1ST, ABOUT AN ADDITIONAL FOUR AND ONE HALF PERCENT.

SO A TOTAL FOR OUR SUPPORT STAFF, ABOUT FIVE AND ONE HALF PERCENT COLA THIS YEAR, WHICH IS THIS BENEFITS EVERYBODY.

AND SO WE SUBMIT IT FOR YOUR APPROVAL AND SIGNATURE BOARD MEMBERS.

ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION IS SOMETHING.

FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE OF PEOPLE ON THE NEGOTIATION AND HUGE THANK YOU TO THE TEACHERS.

I KNOW YOU PUT IN A LOT OF TIME TEACHERS.

IT'S NOT PART OF YOUR CONTRACT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.

SO THIS IS TOTALLY ON YOUR TIME.

AND QUITE OFTEN BOTH SIDES, IT'S A LOSE LOSE SITUATION BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE NEVER HAPPY.

YOU CAN'T MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY. YOU CAN'T.

SO QUITE OFTEN, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T GET THANKED AND I APPRECIATE THE TIME YOU PUT INTO IT.

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SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND PLEASE TELL THE OTHER PEOPLE, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT.

ABSOLUTELY. AND AS FAR AS THE END RESULT, I THINK WHAT I LIKE ABOUT IT IS YOU COMPROMISE AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S SORELY MISSING IN THE WORLD TODAY.

EVERYBODY WANTS THEIR OWN WAY.

AND I THINK THIS WAS A VERY GOOD COMPROMISE.

AND THE PART THAT I THINK IS THE BEST PART AND SOME PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THIS IS, LIKE YOU SAID, NEXT CONTRACT, YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE PAY SCALE, COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T TAKE A ROCKET SCIENCE TO FIGURE OUT, AND THAT PUTS TEACHERS WHERE THEY BELONG AND MAKES IT EQUITABLE.

SO EVERYBODY WITH TEN YEARS OF SERVICE IS WHERE THEY BELONG.

AND THAT TO ME IS HUGE BECAUSE THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR OVER A DECADE.

SO I LOVE THE FACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO FINALLY PUT THAT TO REST.

SO JUST AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK.

AND I THINK IT WAS A GOOD CONTRACT.

AND THE OTHER THING JUST FOR INFORMATION IS WE'RE UNDER A LEGISLATIVE MANDATE FROM HOUSE BILL 1300 TO SHOW AN INCREASE IN TEACHER SALARIES OF 10% FROM FISCAL. YEAR 19 TO FISCAL YEAR 24, WE FOUND OURSELVES ENTERING THIS NEGOTIATION FOUR AND ONE HALF PERCENT TO GO THIS FOUR AND ONE HALF PERCENT.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS SATISFIES THAT DEMONSTRATION OF 10%.

SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT A YEAR EARLY, AND THAT'S NO SMALL FEAT FOR A COUNTY LIKE CAROLINE, WHERE THE BUDGET IS ALWAYS VERY TIGHT TO BE ABLE TO SATISFY THAT LEGISLATIVE MANDATE A YEAR EARLY IS WE CAN TAKE ABOUT 4 SECONDS AND CELEBRATE.

WE STILL HAVE TO GET THE 60,000.

SO THAT'S THE NEXT JOB.

BUT WE DID THIS AND WE DID IT A YEAR EARLY.

SO THAT, AGAIN, IS SOMETHING TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF DR.

[INAUDIBLE] THAT WAS THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I WAS GOING TO ADD.

I HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT OTHER COUNTIES AND WHAT THEIR GOALS ARE.

BUT KNOWING THAT OUR COUNTY.

LIKE YOU SAID, YEAR AHEAD HAS MET THAT.

SO THAT KIND OF IS BEHIND US NOW WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT TACKLE WHICH IS THAT 60 MILES.

YEAH. SO HOPEFULLY WE HAD SOME NEW A NEW GOVERNOR.

MAYBE THAT FUNDING CAN CHANGE.

SO, MICHELLE AND DR.

WILLOUGHBY, I APPRECIATE YOU POINTING THAT OUT BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO ASK, YOU MENTIONED THE SUPPORT STAFF AND THE BOARD STARTS THESE CONVERSATIONS IN OPEN SESSION AND IN PUBLIC SESSION MONTHS BEFORE THE BUDGET FINALIZES.

AND THEN ONCE NEGOTIATIONS START, WE HAD WE KIND OF STOPPED TALKING ABOUT IT BECAUSE OF THE RULES AND REGULATIONS AND NEGOTIATED AGREEMENT.

AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND EVEN OUR GENERAL STAFF HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON OR WHY.

BUT YOU JUST MENTIONED TWO THINGS.

I'M GLAD WE POINT THEM OUT IN OPEN SESSION.

THE BILL 13 HOUSE BILL 1300, WHICH WAS HOLDING US TO A CERTAIN INCREASE IN TEACHER SALARIES.

YOU DIDN'T. IT'S GOT A NAME, BUT YOU MENTIONED THE CALLED.

PEOPLE HAVE REFERRED TO IT AS MINI CURWEN.

RIGHT. BUT IT GETS CONFUSED WITH REAL CURWIN.

SO I JUST CALL IT HOUSE BILL 13, THIS 1300, BUT ALSO THE BUMP, THE EXTRA BUMP ON SUPPORT STAFF FOR ME, TOO PLUS ONE IS ME TOO PLUS ONE.

THAT'S AN EXTRA SOMETHING THAT THE BIG PICTURE THE BOARD IS LOOKING AT AND TRYING TO BUDGET BECAUSE THERE'S IS THERE IS THERE STATE LAW OR REGULATION ABOUT MINIMUM WAGE.

IT'S SLOWLY GETTING SLOWLY GETTING TO $15.

SO THIS FOUR AND A HALF PLUS ONE IS FIVE AND A HALF.

DOES THAT GET OUR LOWEST PAID EMPLOYEE TO $15? NOT YET. WE ARE VERY SO AGAIN, WE'RE WORKING ON IT.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE TALK ABOUT IN THE BUDGETARY SESSIONS.

THAT'S SOMETHING THE BOARD IS LOOKING AT.

AND EVEN WITH THIS, WE'RE STILL NOT THERE, BUT NOW WE CAN AGAIN REEMPHASIZE IT IN PUBLIC SESSION.

SO I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED THAT AND I'M GOOD.

THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE BLUEPRINT WE'LL HEAR ABOUT LATER AND THE 60,000 THAT MS. SHELDON MENTIONED, WHICH IS GOOD, GREAT GOAL.

JUST HOW DO WE GET THERE? BOARD MEMBERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? WANT TO COMMENT? SO PEOPLE SEE THE COUNTY SPENDING BIG MONEY, MEETING THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, SPENDING BIG MONEY, AND COUNTY CAN SPEAK FOR ITSELF, BUT ON VARIOUS THINGS, CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, OTHER THINGS THAT ARE FUNDED BY GRANTS AND PEOPLE DON'T GENERALLY UNDERSTAND.

AND IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE THAT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT INVOLVED IN THAT BUDGETING PROCESS, THAT THESE ARE POTS OF MONEY AND YOU CAN'T THEY'RE NOT INTERCHANGEABLE.

SO IF YOU SEE SOMETHING COME ALONG THAT LIKE THE YMCA MEMBERSHIP, THAT WASN'T DISPOSABLE MONEY THAT YOU COULD HAVE USED IN A DIFFERENT WAY AND A ROOF PROJECT AND ON AND ON.

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YEAH. SO WHILE IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S ALL THIS MONEY FLYING AROUND AND IT CAN FEEL LIKE IT, AND SAME WITH THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT, OFTENTIMES HOW THEY CAN SPEND MONEY IS PRESCRIBED BY THE FUNDING SOURCE, AND PLENTY OF PEOPLE GET THAT.

UNDERSTAND IT. THE COMMENTS I GET SOMETIMES FROM PEOPLE THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND UNTIL YOU'RE EXAMINING THAT BUDGET, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW THAT.

AND IT'S A FAIR QUESTION FOR PEOPLE ASKED, HOW COULD YOU GO BY X AND YOU CAN'T DO THIS OTHER THING THAT WE REALLY NEED MORE.

BUT THAT'S WORTH SAYING.

IT'S NOT SO EASY BECAUSE OF THAT.

AND FORTUNATELY, PUBLIC EDUCATION SYSTEMS DO GET A LOT OF GRANT MONEY AND THAT FORTUNATELY, THERE'S PEOPLE THAT WOULD ARGUE IF YOU CUT ALL THAT OUT, THE TAXPAYERS WOULD HAVE MORE MONEY, BUT THEN THOSE THINGS WOULDN'T BE GETTING DONE EITHER.

SO THEN YOUR TAXES WOULD GO UP SO THEY COULD PAY FOR THOSE THINGS.

SO IT COMES EITHER IN GRANTS OR IT COMES IN TAX MONEY.

I DON'T KNOW. IN FACT, I DON'T KNOW.

WE'RE NEVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO CHANGE THAT IN THIS ROOM.

SO WE'LL TAKE THE GRANT.

ALL RIGHT, BOARD MEMBERS, WE'VE GOT A RECOMMENDATION HERE AND TWO SIDES COMING TOGETHER AND FINDING THE POSITIVE IN THAT IMPASSE PROCESS AND THEN SUBMITTING THIS AGREEMENT FOR APPROVAL TO HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE NEGOTIATED AGREEMENT BY MR. SECOND, BY MR. JONES. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

AYE. CONGRATULATIONS, EVERYONE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ALL. TO SIGN IT NOW, WE'VE GOT SEVERAL SIGNS YOU CAN SIGN NOW.

OR WE CAN SIGN LATER.

MRS. BAUMANN WILL SIGN LATER.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE A TOTAL OF SIX JUST IN TIME TO SIGN OFF ON THAT.

OH, I KNOW. ABSOLUTELY.

ALL RIGHT, I'LL SIGN YOU.

DEREK SIGNED THEM, AND WHILE WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PRESENTATION, JUST ON AND IF POSSIBLE.

I KNOW MS. BERRY. SANDY BERRY. NORMALLY DOES THE PICTURE.

IS IT POSSIBLE IF WE GET A PICTURE? ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT, MR. WILLOUGHBY OR DR. WILLOUGHBY? SORRY. WE'LL GRAB A PICTURE.

JUST GO ALONG WITH IT FOR US GETTING THIS THING DONE.

APPRECIATE IT. WHERE DO YOU WANT US TO GO? WE CAN WORRY ABOUT THE WHOLE BOARD COMING UP.

MIGHT AS WELL. YEAH, WE'RE ALL IN IT.

WE'VE ALL HELPED CARRY THE WATER IN SOME WAY TO GET US THERE.

[INAUDIBLE]. YOU'RE NUMBER TWO IN THE CENTER OF NEGOTIATORS.

NOT REALLY, BUT TALL PEOPLE.

THAT'S NOT FAIR. DO YOU STILL CALL THEM? ALL RIGHT, READY? ONE, TWO, THREE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, RACHEL.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. [INAUDIBLE], [LAUGHTER].

SO, LISA, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND I DIDN'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE GOING TO BE HERE.

YOU SAID. AND SO I'LL JUST I'LL SAY IT TO YOU TO PLEASE PASS ON, SINCE I WON'T BE AROUND ANY MORE TO PASS IT ON.

AND I'M GLAD THAT DR.

WILLIE MENTIONED THAT THE IMPASSE PROVIDED AN EYE OPENING AND ENDED UP BEING A POSITIVE.

IT'S GOOD CHALLENGES AND CONTROVERSY COULD BE A CREATIVE OPPORTUNITY.

I'VE HEARD THAT. AND IF BOTH SIDES BELIEVE THAT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE HE ALSO SAID, IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU WANT TO DO AGAIN.

AND I JUST AS MUCH AS TEACHERS DO AND WE ALL TALKED ABOUT IT NOW, TEACHERS DO MORE OUTSIDE THE BUILDING AND OUTSIDE THE SCHOOL DAY THAN A LOT OF OTHER CAREERS.

AND FOR THEIR STUDENTS, FOR THEIR COUNTERPARTS, MENTORING THEIR COUNTERPARTS AFTER HOURS, WHETHER IT'S GRADING PAPERS, TALKING TO PARENTS OR JUST PUTTING PLANNING, THEY DO THAT WITH SOME NEW BLOOD, A NEW PEOPLE INVOLVED AT THE ADMINISTRATION AND ON THE BOARD AND IN THE TEACHERS UNION.

WE JUST HAVE TO KNOW AND WE'RE ALL MOVING.

NO BOARD I'VE EVER BEEN ON HAS NOT TRIED TO DO THE VERY BEST THEY CAN WITH THE BUDGETS THEY ARE GIVEN FOR THEIR STAFF, BECAUSE THAT IS OUR NUMBER ONE RESOURCE.

BUT AS YOU SEE, WE'VE GOT STAFF WHO AREN'T EVEN MAKING MINIMUM WAGE YET.

WE'VE GOT GOVERNMENT CONSTRAINTS AND ALL THAT.

BUT ALL THAT TO SAY, WE'RE ALL HOLDING EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE MOVING FORWARD.

AND JUST IN THIS YEAR THERE WAS THIS THE FIRST TIME I KNOW THAT WE'VE GONE TO IMPASSE.

I BELIEVE IT IS. AND I THINK I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A NEW JUST NEW PERSONALITIES FEELING EACH OTHER OUT, BUT WE ALL HAVE TO HOLD EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE.

BUT ALL SIDES AND I INCLUDE THAT.

EVEN OUR STATE UNION REPS, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE THE BOARD NEEDS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WERE SOME DELAYS AND FAMILY EMERGENCIES, BUT EVEN PRIOR TO THE FAMILY EMERGENCIES, THERE WAS KNOW THERE'S WEEKS THERE.

WE DIDN'T COULDN'T FIND DATES.

RIGHT. AND, YOU KNOW, FOR ALL THE TEACHERS AND ALL THE STAFF IN THE SYSTEM, THOSE LAST 6 TO 8 WEEKS OF THE FISCAL YEAR ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT.

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AND YOU GOT THE EXPERIENCE, YOU FOUND THE SILVER LININGS IN THEM.

BUT I THINK THIS AGREEMENT IS SO CLOSE TO WHAT WE WERE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IN JUNE, YOU KNOW, A FEW EXTRA MEETINGS AND THAT JUNE, WE COULD HAVE HAD IT BUTTONED UP, YOU KNOW, AS MY OPTIMISTIC THING.

AND I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT BEFORE I GO AND ASK THOSE TEACHERS, YOU KNOW, IF THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE AWARENESS OF THE TIME COMMITMENT, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT TEAM, LET'S ON BOTH SIDES COMMUNICATE THAT.

SO THEY KNOW THE LAST 6 TO 8 WEEKS OF THE FISCAL YEAR IS CRUNCH TIME IF THERE'S YOU KNOW I THINK WITH THE BOARD NOW THIS THE BOARD SIDE AND THE UNION SIDE THIS YEAR ARE BOTH HAVING A SMALLER GROUP OF MEMBERS ON THE NEGOTIATING TEAM.

SO I HOPE I FORESEE THAT WILL HELP WITH THAT AS WELL.

BUT ALSO, AS MR. BARTON HAD MENTIONED, MYSELF INCLUDED, WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS, YOU LIKE, YOU SEE THE THINGS THAT ARE POSTED ONLINE AND YOU SEE THE BUDGET, YOU SEE THE NUMBERS AND YOU WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS, YOU DON'T REALIZE THE THINGS THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY ALLOCATED.

SO I THINK THAT PROBABLY ALSO PLAYED A ROLE IN IT.

BUT I DEFINITELY I KNOW MYSELF AND MISS BAUMANN BOTH.

WE REALLY ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING A POSITIVE AND CONTINUING TO HAVE A POSITIVE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE BOARD, AND IT'LL PROBABLY NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN AS FAR AS THE STATE REPS AND STUFF, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 1000000 TO $2 MILLION DEAL.

AND YOU KNOW, THE BUSINESS OF TEACHING KIDS IS AN ART AND THE TEACHERS WHO ARE DOING IT IN THE CLASSROOM, IT IS ART.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST THAT IS SOMETHING ONLY CERTAIN PEOPLE CAN DO AND FOR THE LOVE OF IT.

BUT THERE IS THE BUSINESS SIDE OF EMPLOYEES AND THE BUSINESS SIDE OF THE BUDGET AND DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND, YOU KNOW, IF I HAVE 1000000 TO $2 MILLION DEAL TO CLOSE AND SOMETHING HAPPENS TO ME, SOMEONE ELSE STEPS IN AND CLOSES IT, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, WHETHER I HAVE A FAMILY EMERGENCY OR WHATEVER.

AND I JUST LIKE WE ALL HAVE TO HOLD EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE HERE IN THIS ROOM.

WE ALSO HAVE TO HOLD OUR OTHER CONDUITS ACCOUNTABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE SUPPORT WE NEED TO CLOSE THE DEALS FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR STAFF.

AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ALL THE PEOPLE PUT IN THE EXTRA TIME THAT WE FINALLY GOT THIS AND MARKED UP SOME OF THESE POSITIVES TO LESSONS LEARNED.

JUST SO YOU KNOW, THIS NOW CLOSES THE FY 23 NEGOTIATION CYCLE.

SO ONE MORNING AN EMAIL GOES OUT TO BEGIN THE FY 24.

SO YES, IT REALLY IS NOT GOING TO END.

SO THANK YOU FOR COMING.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH, I THINK WE'RE GOOD PATH.

THANK YOU ALL.

YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY FOR THE BLUEPRINT DISCUSSION, IF YOU'D LIKE, BUT YOU MAY HAVE SOMETHING YOU'D RATHER DO.

MY LITTLE STORM.

LITERALLY HIS NAME, BUT SOMETIMES A STORM.

NO. UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU.

ABSOLUTELY. YEP.

THANK YOU.

THANKS, LISA. THANK YOU.

YOU TOO. DRIVE SAFE. YOU TOO.

WHEN YOU LEAVE. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. SO THANK THE BOARD.

ALL RIGHT. NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS OUR REGULAR WORK SESSION INFORMATIONAL DISCUSSION ITEM BLUEPRINT FOR MARYLAND'S FUTURE UPDATE.

[3. Discussion Items]

DOWNS WILL BE LEADING CONVERSATION WITH THE BOARD AROUND SORT OF WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR BLUEPRINT PROCESS.

AND AS THE BOARD HAD SEEN, WE'VE SHARED WITH THE BOARD, THE DRAFT PLAN HAS BEEN PUT OUT AS WELL AS THE DRAFT IMPLEMENTATION PLAN TEMPLATE AS WELL AS THE DRAFT SUCCESS CRITERIA TEMPLATE, LOTS OF PAPERWORK.

SO DR. DANIELS WILL KIND OF WALK THROUGH SOME INFORMATION RELATED TO THAT.

AND THEN WHAT OUR PROCESS IS TO GET THIS DONE, AS WE HAVE UNCOVERED YESTERDAY WAS ACTUALLY A GREAT, DAY FOR REALLY LOOKING AT THE WORKLOAD, THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, THAT IF ALL THINGS GO AS PRESENTED, WE'LL SEE.

BUT IF ALL THINGS GO AS PRESENTED, IT'S A 98 PAGE PLAN THAT WE WILL SUBMIT MARCH 15TH.

WE WILL ACTUALLY HAVE IT TO THE BOARD, MARCH 7TH BOARD MEETING FOR REVIEW, WHICH MEANS WE HAVE TO HAVE IT DONE BY ABOUT FEBRUARY 27TH AND WE FACTORED THAT IN.

THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN 50 WORK DAYS TO GET 88 OR 98 PAGE PLAN DONE, AND THERE'S 200 ITEMS TO RESPOND TO WITHIN THE 98 PAGE PLAN AND ONE PERSON WERE TO DO IT.

IT'S ABOUT FIVE WEEKS OF 40 HOUR WEEKS IF ONE PERSON WAS TO CARRY THAT WATER BY THEMSELVES, THANK GOD ONE PERSON'S NOT CARRYING THE WATER BY OURSELVES IN CAROLINE

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DOWNS LEADERSHIP WITH HELPING TO GET THIS DONE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO WALK THROUGH OUR APPROACH AND WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF GETTING THIS DONE AND DONE.

WELL, SURE.

JUST WANTED TO GIVE A LITTLE REVIEW ON THE PURPOSE OF THE BLUEPRINT.

AGAIN, IT WAS TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE SEEING NOW, AND TO PROPOSE CHANGES TO THE FUNDING FORMULAS FYI WE'RE FINDING OUT THAT THOSE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE FUNDING FORMULAS ARE CONTINUING.

NOW, EVEN THROUGH THE BLUEPRINT, AS I THINK THINGS ARE BEING DIGESTED AS THE AIB IS HAVING MEETINGS WITH STAKEHOLDERS, MSDH IS HAVING MEETINGS WITH AIB. I THINK THAT THEY'RE REALIZING THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME NEW CHANGES TO THE FUNDING IN ORDER TO MAKE THESE THINGS HAPPEN BECAUSE THE FUNDING FORMULA IS MIGHT BE IMPACTED BY INFLATION, IT COULD BE IMPACTED BY ANY TYPES OF CHANGES TO ASSESSMENTS THAT WOULD BE NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO CARRY THIS THING OUT.

SO I HAD A HANDOUT FOR THE LAST MEETING THAT WE WERE AT, KIND OF REVIEWED SOME OF THE THINGS FOR EACH PILLAR, SO I WON'T GET INTO THAT ANY FURTHER.

I WILL SHARE A GRAPHIC THAT WAS PULLED FROM AIB, AND THIS IS JUST A LITTLE KIND OF CHEAT SHEET ON WHAT THE DIFFERENT PILLARS ARE TO BE COVERING. AND THIS IS A BIG OVERVIEW.

THE DOCUMENT ITSELF IS THE AIB DOCUMENT IS HERE AND THE LEGISLATION IS HERE.

THIS IS JUST THE LEGISLATION.

AND THEN OF COURSE DR.

SIMMONS SHARED WITH YOU.

NOW THE 98 PAGE TEMPLATE IS BEFORE WE PUT STUFF IN IT.

SO IT'LL BE PROBABLY THREE TIMES THAT SIZE BY THE TIME ALL OF OUR WORK IS COMPLETED AND SUBMITTED TO AIB AND MSDH.

SO THAT'S LIKE SIX PAGES A DAY.

CORRECT. AND INITIALLY THE PROPOSAL THAT I GUESS THE IMPETUS OF THIS WAS THAT WE WOULD HAVE A TEN YEAR PLAN FOR ALL FIVE PILLARS.

YEAH, THE INITIAL EXPECTATION FLESHED OUT THE TEN YEAR PLAN TO DELIVER BY MARCH AND THANK GOD THE AIB SAID THAT'S TOO MUCH.

THEY CONSTANTLY CHANGE.

THE INTERPRETATIONS KEEP CHANGING.

INTERPRETATION IS CHANGE, WHICH IS WHY THEY'VE SCALED IT BACK TO A TWO AND A HALF YEAR PLAN BECAUSE THAT'S THE TWO AND A HALF IS MORE REALISTIC.

YES, MORE REALISTIC, I WON'T SAY WHOLLY, BUT IT IS MORE REALISTIC.

IT ALSO BUYS TIME FOR THE AIB TO CONTINUE TO ASSESS AND ADJUST BECAUSE WE'RE RECOGNIZING THAT THERE ARE SOME FINANCIAL IMPACTS AND THERE ARE ALSO SOME LOGISTICAL IMPACTS WHEN THEY START SEEING ACTUAL DATA RESULTS.

SO I PERSONALLY OF THE THREE OPTIONS, WE HAD EVERYTHING WHOLE TEN YEAR PLAN.

ALL BY MARCH. THE SECOND PROPOSAL BY MSG WAS THAT WE WOULD HAVE COMPLETED PLANS ABOUT THAT TIME FRAME FOR PILLARS, BUT THE PILLAR WOULD BE SO WE WORK ON ONE PILLAR AND WORK ON A SECOND PILLAR WORK ON A THIRD PILLAR.

AIB CAME UP WITH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE YOU TOUCH ON ALL THE PILLARS, BUT ONLY THE FIRST TWO YEARS OF WHAT'S DUE.

DELIVERABLES IS WHAT THEY'RE CALLING THEM, BUT IT'S BASICALLY YOUR REPORTS THAT ARE DUE THAT YOU GET YOU TOWARDS THE ULTIMATE GOAL OF THE BLUEPRINT.

I ANTICIPATE AFTER OUR SUBMISSION OF THE PLAN IN MARCH, THE AIB AND MSK WILL WORK TOGETHER TO ADJUST THE NEXT GOAL THAT WE HAVE, THE NEXT FIVE YEAR GOAL BASED ON CURRENT BASELINE DATA THAT THEY'RE GATHERING RIGHT NOW.

AND WE ALL KNOW THAT THE PURPOSE OF THE BLUEPRINT, THE OVERARCHING PURPOSE OF THE BLUEPRINT, WHICH DR.

SIMMONS AND THE EXECUTIVE TEAM IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON, IS ENSURING THAT ALL OF THE FUNDING.

AND I USE THAT WORD LOOSELY BECAUSE FUNDING IS STILL A QUESTION MARK.

BUT EVERYTHING THAT WE DO FUNNELS TOWARDS THE STUDENTS OF THE BLUEPRINT FUNDING.

I THINK IT'S GOOD PRACTICE TO ENSURE THAT ALL THE FUNDING THAT WE HAVE DOES ULTIMATELY BENEFIT THE STUDENTS.

SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE EXAMPLES OF WHAT STUDENTS WE WOULD CONSIDER MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE SOME ACCOUNTABILITY FOR WHERE THE FUNDING IS GOING AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

SO INTERNALLY, DR.

SIMMONS HELD THE FIRST STEERING COMMITTEE LAST WEEK.

ONCE THE INFORMATION CAME OUT TO US, WE HAD SOMETHING TO ACTUALLY TOUCH AND LOOK AT.

SO THE FIRST STEERING COMMITTEE MEETING OF THE NEW PROCESS, BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD THE STEERING COMMITTEE, WE DO HAVE FIVE PILLAR COMMITTEES, BUT REALLY COULDN'T GET INTO IT UNTIL WE HAD SOMETHING TO WORK WITH.

SO THE FIRST MEETING LAST WEEK, WE SHARED ALL THIS DOCUMENTATION AND CREATED FOLDERS TO HELP START TO GATHER THE DATA.

AND EACH WORKGROUP CHAIR IS RESPONSIBLE FOR WORKING ON THEIR PIECE OF THE PLAN, AND WE'LL ALL BE WORKING TOGETHER.

SO ALL THE MEETINGS WE ATTEND, IF THEY'RE RELATED TO THEIR BLUEPRINT, THEY'LL BE JOINING US ON THOSE VIRTUAL MEETINGS WITH MSDH AND HAVE THE PILLARS AND THE COMMITTEES.

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I CAN SHARE WITH YOU WHAT EACH WHO IS IN EACH, IT'S ON THE WEBSITE.

I CAN SHARE THAT LINK WITH YOU WHEN I LEAVE HERE THIS EVENING.

THE STEERING COMMITTEE CONSISTS OF ALL THE WORKGROUP CHAIRS OF EACH OF THE PILLARS AND STAKEHOLDERS.

SO WE HAVE A TEACHER, COMMUNITY MEMBER, ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT IS ON THE STEERING COMMITTEE.

WE ALSO HAVE MS. THORNTON.

AARON'S NOT OVER A SINGLE PILLAR, BUT AS THE CFO, SHE'S REALLY OVER ALL PILLARS.

SO AARON'S ON THAT AS WELL.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE CCR PILLAR, COLLEGE READINESS PILLAR.

WE SPLIT INTO TWO.

SO WE HAVE THE TRADITIONAL COLLEGE CAREER READINESS ASSESSMENT TYPE PART.

MS. MCCORMICK AND THEN CTE WILL BE A NEW KIND OF WAY OF DOING CTE.

THE STATE HAS SET ASIDE A NEW COMMITTEE, SO MRS.[INAUDIBLE] WILL BE SERVING IN THAT ROLE.

BUT WHEN IT GETS DOWN, DONNA, TO THE WORKGROUPS, TO THE INDIVIDUAL PILLARS, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF OVERLAP ON THOSE.

IT'S DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS, BOTH WITHIN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, OUTSIDE THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.

AND I DO JUST WANT TO SHARE AS AS TIERS GOING OVER THIS THE LIFT THAT IS GOING TO FALL OR THAT IS FALLEN AND SAY IS GOING TO LIFT, THAT IS FALLING ON THE PILLAR CHAIRS.

SO THE WORKGROUP CHAIRS.

THE EXCEPTION OF PILLAR FIVE.

THAT'S MY PILLAR, AS WELL AS THE STEERING COMMITTEE.

WHEN YOU SEE THE TEMPLATE, PILLAR FIVE IS KIND OF LIKE, I'LL OWN THAT ONE.

IT'S THE LEAST AMOUNT OF THINGS TO RESPOND TO.

BUT IT'S AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT'S GOING TO FALL ON SUPERVISORS OR DIRECTORS WHO ARE CURRENTLY IN THE MIDST OF DOING THEIR DAY JOB, WHO ARE IN THE MIDST OF BUDGET DEVELOPMENT OBSERVATIONS, NORMAL DAY TO DAY THINGS THAT ALREADY FILL THEIR PLATE WITH THIS ADDED PIECE ON, THEY ARE UP TO THE CHALLENGE.

WE'VE HAD THE TALK, WE'VE HAD THE CONVERSATION.

THEY'RE UP TO IT. BUT THERE IS THAT REALIZATION THAT THIS IS A VERY MEATY LIFT GIVEN THIS TIME OF YEAR WHEN EVERY YEAR, EVERY TIME OF YEAR, ANY TIME OF YEAR WOULD BE TOUGH.

BUT KNOWING THAT PLAN WILL NOT BE APPROVED UNTIL THE FINAL TEMPLATE WILL NOT BE APPROVED UNTIL DECEMBER ONE.

SO THEY CAN START NOW WITH THEIR INITIAL MEETING TO START WORKING ON IT.

BUT THEIR REAL LIFT WILL COME BASICALLY THE MONTH OF DECEMBER, THE MONTH OF JANUARY, AND THEN REALLY IN FEBRUARY.

THEY'VE GOT TO HAVE MOST OF IT DRAFTED IN TIME TO GET FEEDBACK FROM THE STAKEHOLDERS FOR MARCH.

AND IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO COME TO THE BOARD TO SHARE WHAT IT IS IN MARCH BEFORE IT GOES TO THE STATE.

SO I JUST GIVE THAT AS JUST A THIS IS JUST THE REALITY OF WHERE WE ARE AND THEY'RE GOING TO WORK THROUGH IT.

WE'LL SUPPORT EVERYBODY.

WE DEFINITELY WILL.

BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A TREMENDOUS LIFT FOR SMALL SYSTEMS. AND WE'VE RUNG THE BELL. I RANG IT AGAIN THIS WEEK ON A MEETING WE WERE ON.

IT'S A BIG LIFT.

I CAN SPEAK FOR SMALL.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT BIG, BUT IT REALLY IS A BIG LIFT FOR SMALL BECAUSE SOMETHING AS SMALL AS MS. CANTY WITH THE CTE WORKGROUP.

SHE'S A PRINCIPAL OF THE CAREER AND TECHNOLOGY CENTER SUPERVISOR OF CTE.

NOW SHE'S THIS LINDSAY MCCORMICK AS DIRECTOR OF INSTRUCTION, CURRICULUM INSTRUCTION.

LINDSAY HAS A NORMAL WORK.

SHE'S DOING SO WITH LOTS OF GRANTS, OBSERVATIONS, SUPPORTING STAFF, BUDGET DEVELOPMENT, AND NOW I THINK SHE HAS ABOUT 45 PAGES OF THE 98 PAGE PLAN FALLS UNDER CURRICULUM AND INSTRUCTION.

MRS. ANTHONY THE SAME THING WITH PILLAR FOR PILLAR ONE.

MS. SAILER A COUPLE OF WEEKS INTO THE NEW ROLE AND LIZ IS WELL-VERSED INTO THE PILLAR THAT SHE'S WALKING INTO, WHICH IS A STRONG SUIT WE HAVE.

BUT AGAIN, NEW SUPERVISOR WALKING IN, HERE'S YOUR PILLAR AND GET IT UP.

AND IT'S INTERESTING. THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING TOO.

THE BIG WORD IN THIS DOCUMENT IS ABOUT EQUITY TO OUR CHILDREN, BUT IT'S NOT EQUITABLE TO THE SYSTEMS ACROSS THE STATE.

NOT THAT IT'S NOT A BIG LIFT FOR EVEN THE BIGGER SYSTEMS, BUT IF THEY'VE GOT A DOZEN PEOPLE IN A DEPARTMENT AND THEY CAN ASK EACH ONE OF THEM TO DO 1/10 DELEGATE, ONE 1/10 OF SOMETHING AND ONE PAGE ONE QUESTION, WHERE SMALLER SYSTEMS JUST DON'T HAVE THAT.

IT'S NOT EQUITABLE, THE TIMETABLE.

SO YOU WOULD THINK THEY CAN EVEN TALK ABOUT THAT.

THE TIMETABLE DOES HAVE AN IMPACT AND THE TALENT IS HERE.

THE TALENT WE HAVE, THE TALENT.

IT'S FINDING THE TIME.

IT'S PRIORITIZING OUR TIME.

THIS MUST BE DONE.

ARE THERE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP SUPPORT THE DIRECTORS, THE SUPERVISORS, AND THE WORKGROUP CHAIRS?

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ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON AIB, MSD AND PZM ALL HAVE AS SUPERINTENDENTS ASSOCIATION AND STATE OF MARYLAND.

THEY HAVE MEETINGS THAT COORDINATORS ARE TO ATTEND.

I'VE INVITED AS IT RELATES TO THEIR PILLAR AND WORKGROUP CHAIR, OR IF THEY WANT TO DESIGNATE SOMEBODY TO JOIN SO THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME CONVERSATION.

ON AVERAGE RIGHT NOW I'M LOOKING AT ABOUT THREE TWO HOUR MEETINGS A WEEK FOR ME AND I WOULDN'T ATTEND ALL OF THEM AND HAVE THE WORKGROUP CHAIRS PULL THEM IN WHEN IT RELATES TO THEIR PARTICULAR PILLAR.

WHEN THE WORKGROUPS GET TOGETHER, I'M HOPING THAT IT CAN BE A WORK SESSION, NOT SO MUCH A MEETING.

WE HAVE A WORK SESSION WHERE WE ALL KIND OF PITCH IN AND START TO DRILL DOWN INTO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS.

SO TO GET TO THAT POINT, WE FEEL THAT THE MONTHLY STEERING COMMITTEE MEETINGS CAN JUST DO PROGRESS CHECKS, THE BIWEEKLY MEETINGS WITH THE BLUEPRINT COORDINATOR, ME AND THE WORKGROUP CHAIRS CAN KIND OF SET INTENTION GOAL SETTING AN ACTION PLAN, SOME TYPE OF WAY TO GET TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE, AND THEN THE WORKGROUPS WILL MEET MONTHLY.

I FEEL LIKE MONTHLY MEETINGS CAN GIVE TIME FOR PLANS TO TAKE PLACE SO WE CAN START REALLY DOING THE WORK AND EMPHASIZE THAT THOSE MEETINGS WILL BE WORK MEETINGS, WORK SESSIONS. AND AGAIN, ANYBODY WHO CAN BE AVAILABLE TO THESE COORDINATOR MEETINGS, I'LL BE INVITING THEM TO COME ALONG WITH ME.

THEY'RE VERY TIME INTENSIVE.

I THINK THAT SOMETIMES THEY'RE HELPFUL.

IN FACT, WORKGROUP.

PILLAR ONE AND PILLAR TWO HAD A MEETING TODAY.

I HAD A PRIOR ENGAGEMENT WITH ANOTHER GROUP HERE IN INSTRUCTIONAL TEAM.

I COULDN'T POP ON, BUT THEY WERE ABLE TO REALLY GET IN SOME GOOD INFORMATION AND GATHER IT.

AND WE'RE TRYING REALLY HARD TO USE OUR OUR COORDINATED EFFORTS WITH GOOGLE FOLDERS TO KEEP PUTTING THINGS INTO A DOCUMENT THAT WE CAN ALL WORK FROM TOGETHER. SO THAT'S THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO APPROACH THIS VERY TIGHT TIMELINE.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE FUN.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE COMFORTABLE.

BUT I KNOW WE'LL BE SUCCESSFUL.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEXT TIME, THIS GIVES YOU A LITTLE TIMELINE, DR.

SIMMONS SHARED WITH YOU THE SPECIFIC DATES, BUT THIS IS HERE FOR YOUR REFERENCE, JUST SO YOU CAN KIND OF GET AN IDEA.

THE WORKGROUP CHAIRS HAVE STARTED PUSHING OUT MEETING DATES AND TIMES.

THAT WILL BE HELPFUL. I'VE ACTUALLY DOVETAILED SOME OF MY MEETINGS THAT WERE ALREADY HAPPENING TO MAKE A BLUEPRINT.

AGAIN, I'M TRYING TO WORK SMARTER, NOT HARDER, SO THAT PEOPLE'S TIMES ARE MAXIMIZED.

THERE MIGHT BE SOME THINGS THAT WE WORK ON THAT WE HELP SUPPORT THEM ON.

MAYBE SHELVING OR PARKING, LIGHTING, SOME THINGS THAT WE WOULD NORMALLY DO IN THE EFFORTS TO MAKE THE BLUEPRINT A COMPLETE DOCUMENT.

SO WE WILL BREAK WHILE YOU'RE ON THE SLIDE.

WE HAVE INTERNAL PLANS TO TAKE THE DRAFT AS WE'RE WORKING ON IT TO OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM IMPROVEMENT COUNCIL AND CITIZENS ADVISORY COUNCIL MEETINGS TO GET FEEDBACK THERE.

BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO BE IN A POSITION BETWEEN THE JANUARY 31 STICK AND THE FEBRUARY 27 STICK TO TRY TO ENGAGE STAKEHOLDERS AND GET FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY. AND WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH WHAT THAT PROCESS COULD BE BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TAKING A 90 PAGE PLAN AND MAKING IT DIGESTIBLE FOR NORMAL PEOPLE IN A WAY THAT YOU CAN GET SOME FEEDBACK.

SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE IN ORDER TO TRY TO GET SOME STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK, WHETHER WE DO IT BY PILLAR, KIND OF CHUNK IT BY TOPIC WITHIN IT.

SO IT MAKES ITSELF.

KIND OF DIGESTIBLE, EASY TO GIVE FEEDBACK FOR.

WHETHER WE DO IT BY SURVEY OR WE HOLD COMMUNITY MEETINGS, WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE, BUT IT REALLY WOULD NEED TO HAPPEN SOMEWHERE IN THAT FEBRUARY TIME PERIOD IF WE WANT TO BE EARNEST ABOUT GETTING STAKEHOLDER INPUT.

SO IN THIS DOCUMENT, YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THE LINKS FOR ALL THESE DOCUMENTS RIGHT HERE.

IF YOU ARE SO INCLINED, YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE HOPPING OFF MR. NEWCOMB, BUT YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME TIME TO READ MORE.

AND THERE'S BOOKS OFF.

IT'S INTERESTING TO SIFT THROUGH THE DOCUMENTS ON PAPER AND RECOGNIZE HOW WE CAN KIND OF PARSE OUT WHAT WE'RE SEEING AND CONNECTING.

THIS IS ALL SUPPOSED TO BE RELATABLE AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

SO FOR YOUR CONVENIENCE.

THESE DOCUMENTS HAVE BEEN SHARED FOR YOU.

IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION.

I WILL TELL YOU THE AIB PLAN, THOUGH, IS A HUGE DOCUMENT, AND I'VE FLAGGED MY COPY PLENTY.

THE ACCOUNTABILITY IMPLEMENTATION BOARD HAS DONE A FAIRLY GOOD JOB OF TRYING TO SHOW WHAT THE WORK COULD LOOK LIKE OVER THE TEN YEAR PERIOD, NOT JUST ON SCHOOL

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MARYLAND HIGHER EDUCATION COMMISSION IS INCLUDED IN HERE.

MARYLAND DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES IS INCLUDED IN HERE.

SO THEY HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB OF TRYING TO SHOW THE BROAD BASED APPROACH OF WHAT SHOULD TAKE PLACE OVER THE TEN YEAR PERIOD AND WHERE EACH PERSON'S DELIVERABLES FALL IN WHICH OUTCOMES UNDER WHICH PILLAR.

I'M NOT GOING TO SAY IT'S PERFECT.

IT'S NOT, BUT IT IS A REALLY GOOD EFFORT AT TRYING TO TAKE THE LEGISLATION AND TURN IT INTO SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY WAS DIGESTIBLE AND MADE SENSE. YOU COULD SEE WHERE WE'RE GOING UNDER EACH PILLAR AND MAKE THE CONNECTION POINT AT LEAST TO SEE WHERE EVERYBODY HAS A HAND IN IT AND WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE.

THOUGH THE FEW MONTHS IS GOING TO BE HECTIC, SEEING WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE OVER TEN WAS HELPFUL.

AND AGAIN, I WOULDN'T SAY AS A BOARD.

DIGEST IT THIS WEEKEND.

GOOD THANKSGIVING READING AFTER EATING TURKEY.

HOPEFULLY NOT THE ONE THAT WE KILLED, BUT THAT WAS NOT PUBLIC.

YEAH, SORRY. YEAH.

WE HAD A TURKEY JUMPING FROM SCHOOL.

YEAH, WE HAD A TURKEY JUMP IN FRONT OF A SCHOOL BUS.

IF I KNEW THE LOCATION OF IT, I COULD TELL SOMEBODY TO GO PICK IT UP.

FREE, FRESH TURKEY THAT WAS JUST SHARED WITH US BEFORE THE CAMERAS CAME ON.

SO, YEAH. SO IT IS A GOOD PLAN.

AND FOR BOARD, IF YOU'RE LOOKING IN THE FUTURE TO SEE WHERE IT IS GOING TO END UP OVER YOUR TIME, IF YOU DECIDE A SECOND TENURE, MAYBE EVEN A THIRD, REALLY FOR SOME, DEPENDING ON IF IT'S TEN YEAR PLAN, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, IT'S THEY DID A GOOD JOB OF STRETCHING THAT PIECE OUT AND BEING ABLE TO ACTUALLY MAKE SENSE OF IT. AND IT'LL START TO KIND OF COME TOGETHER AS WE START SHARING UPDATES.

WHEN WE START SHARING UPDATES EITHER BY PILLAR OR BY TIMELINE, WE'LL START TO KIND OF FLESH OUT FOR THE VIEWER OR THE OBSERVER.

THE ONE LAST THOUGHT I'D LIKE TO SHARE IS AGAIN, WHILE THIS IS A MAMMOTH DOCUMENT, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING.

IN FACT, AT ONE OF THE MEETINGS, WE DID AN ACTIVITY, A WORK SESSION WITH ALL THE ADMINISTRATION SUPERVISORS ON DRILLING INTO THE TIMELINES OF THE BLUEPRINT PLAN AND THE AIB AND CONNECTING WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING AND A LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE ALREADY KIND OF PUTTING IN PLACE BASED ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN GOALS OURSELVES. SO THERE IS SOME ALIGNMENT AND IT'S, WELL, IT'S A LOT OF DOCUMENTATION FOR US TO GATHER DATA DASHBOARDS, JUST A LOT OF REALLY TEDIOUS TASKS TO GET INTO THIS DOCUMENT.

THE FACT THAT WE'RE ALREADY KIND OF DRIVING THE BUS IN THESE AREAS, WE CAN CREATE SOME ALIGNMENT AND THERE'S ALREADY SOME WORKING SMARTER, NOT HARDER ASPECTS TO WHAT WE'RE DOING.

SO CONTINUING TO KEEP THIS AT THE FOREFRONT, I THINK IS GOING TO HELP US NOT COMPLETELY DISINTEGRATE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE TIMES WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO WANT TO.

AND I WILL. AND TARA MADE A GOOD POINT, DR.

DOWNES DID, IN TERMS OF WORKING SMARTER, NOT HARDER.

I, LIKE MANY FOLKS IN EDUCATION, CAN DO OUR FAIR SHARE OF BEATING OF MARYLAND STATE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.

WE ALL CAN. AND SOMETIMES IT'S FUN TO BEAT THEM UP AND THEY'VE EARNED IT A LOT.

I WILL SAY THERE HAS BEEN A CONCERTED EFFORT IN THE FALL AND ESPECIALLY CHAMPIONED BY THE STATE SUPER OF TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO WHAT CAN WE STOP DOING THAT IS GETTING IN THE WAY OF WHAT SHOULD BE THE WORK.

WE'RE NOT THERE YET, BUT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS IT.

FOR THOSE WHO'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD, ACTUALLY, YOU'RE GOING TO THINK THAT ACTUALLY PROBABLY WENT THROUGH THE FULL ESA CONSOLIDATED PLAN WHERE THE MASTER PLAN BECAME THE ESSA PLAN. DONNA, YOU WERE DELIVERED AS A TEACHER.

BIG BINDERS. ALL THE PLANS WE HAD TO WRITE EVERY YEAR.

THE ESA CONSOLIDATED PLAN IS STILL A FEDERAL REQUIREMENT, BUT I WILL GIVE MSG ITS DUE.

THEY WENT THROUGH AND ANYTHING THAT DIDN'T NEED TO BE IN IT THAT WASN'T THERE TO ACTUALLY HIT THE FEDERAL REQUIREMENT.

IT'S OUT. THE DEADLINE WAS EXTENDED.

IT'S DUE IN DECEMBER AS OPPOSED TO TYPICALLY BEING DUE EARLIER.

SO THEY'RE TRYING TO TAKE THINGS OUT AND WE KEEP BEING ENCOURAGED IF WE FIND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GETTING IN THE WAY, SHARE THEM AND THEY WILL DEFINITELY LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THEY CAN IF IT'S NOT A FEDERAL REQUIREMENT OR NOT A STATE REQUIREMENT THAT'S MEANINGFUL, THEY WILL CONTINUE TO REVIEW TO TRY TO LESSEN THAT BURDEN. GREAT.

THAT'S GREAT NEWS.

AND WHETHER IT'S THIS I MEAN, THE INTENTION IS TO GIVE THE STUDENTS IN THE CLASSROOM OR STUDENTS OF MARYLAND A BETTER FUTURE.

AND THAT'S A GREAT GOAL.

BUT EVERY TASK YOU PUT ON TOP OF PEOPLE ALREADY BUSY WITH TASKS.

AND I COMPARE THAT AND YOU HEARD ME SAY IT BEFORE, SO I'LL SAY IT ONE LAST TIME, SAME TIME EVERY YEAR.

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YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONLY SO MANY HOURS IN A DAY, AND BY STATE LAW, WE'RE ONLY STILL GOING TO SCHOOL 180 DAYS A YEAR.

AND EVERY TIME YOU PUT SOMETHING IN, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ON THE EDGES, GETTING READY TO.

PUSH OUT, I MEAN, PEOPLE CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH.

AND SO, I MEAN, THAT'S GREAT AND I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, OUR BOARD HAS ALWAYS BEEN ENGAGED IN ACTIVE.

SO NOT JUST MUSEUM BUT THESE BOARD MEMBERS TAKING IT UP THROUGH MAYBE.

YES. AND YOU KNOW, OR CITIZENS ADVISORY GROUP CAN BE MORE ENGAGED IF THEY START SEEING THESE THINGS TO EITHER WRITE LETTERS TO SAY THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS OR HEY, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? YOU KNOW, MAYBE THIS ISN'T WORKING IN CAROLINE COUNTY.

HAVE THEM FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE SAY TO THE DECISION MAKERS AT MSDH OR THE LEGISLATURE.

I WILL SAY AIB HAS BEEN VERY RECEPTIVE TO FEEDBACK BECAUSE THE DOCUMENT BEFORE YOU HERE WAS DEVELOPED BASED ON A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM STAKEHOLDERS.

THEY SPENT PRETTY MUCH ALL SUMMER HOLDING SESSIONS FOR FOLKS BASED ON EACH PILLAR TO GIVE FEEDBACK, AND IT WAS PRETTY MUCH ANYBODY WHO WANTED TO.

THEY LISTENED TO THE SESSION THIS PAST WEEK.

I SAT ON THE DOWN SIDE AS WELL.

THEY WERE VERY OPEN.

WE HAD A SEPARATE CALL YESTERDAY THAT WAS WITH SUPERINTENDENTS AND BLUEPRINT COORDINATORS AND THEY WERE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT DIGESTING SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THEY HAD RECEIVED LAST THURSDAY. SO I THINK THERE IS A DESIRE.

NOT JUST A CHECKBOX OF.

THERE IS A DESIRE TO BE RESPONSIVE TO STAKEHOLDERS.

AND THOUGH THE COMPOSITION OF THE AIB IS NOT SMALL SYSTEM FRIENDLY IN TERMS OF IT'S LARGELY FOLKS JUST FROM THE METROPOLITAN AREA.

AGAIN, I'LL GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE.

THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO BE VERY RECEPTIVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK.

THEY HAVE SOME NON-NEGOTIABLES ON SOME THINGS WHICH I CAN UNDERSTAND.

WHICH THEY WOULD BEND A LITTLE BIT, BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND.

AND. BUT THEY HAVE BEEN RECEPTIVE TO HEARING AND TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO WORK WITHIN THE TERM WE KEEP HEARING.

I APPRECIATE IT, BUT IF IT'S ACTUALLY WRITTEN INTO THE LEGISLATION SPECIFICALLY, THEY CAN'T BEND ON THAT UNTIL SOMETHING CHANGES IN THE LEGISLATION.

SO SUCH AS THE MARCH 15 DEADLINE, THEY WOULD.

THERE SEEMS TO BE AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE CHALLENGE IT PUTS ON SCHOOL SYSTEMS. I DON'T WANT TO SAY THEY WOULD LOVE TO CHANGE IT.

THEY UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGE, BUT THAT IS SPECIFICALLY WRITTEN IN THE LEGISLATION.

SO THEY WOULD NEED ANNAPOLIS TO DO SOMETHING.

JANUARY BASICALLY, IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXTEND THAT A LITTLE BIT.

BUT THERE DOES SEEM TO BE A WILLINGNESS OF.

KIND OF KEEPING A LIST OF THINGS IN THE LEGISLATION THAT MAY NEED TO BE MASSAGED.

THEY SEEM TO BE KEEPING THAT LIST.

AND THEN THAT'S WHERE I WOULD TO COUPLE ON JIM'S RESPONSE ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF MAIB.

MAIB DOES HAVE A VERY GOOD LEGISLATIVE PERSON WHO'S WORKED FOR YEARS AND JOHN WILLEMS AND MAIB DOES HAVE A STRONG EFFORT AND USUALLY A STRONG VOICE AS IT RELATES TO THINGS IN ANNAPOLIS.

AND I KNOW THAT MAIB WORKS VERY CLOSELY WITH OTHER EDUCATION ENTITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE, SO THEY TRY TO FIGURE OUT AND WORK TOGETHER.

WE SEE IT THIS WAY. WE SEE THIS WHERE CAN WE COME TOGETHER TO TRY TO PUSH TOGETHER TO GET CHANGE SO WE'RE ALL NOT BUTTING HEADS OVER SMALL THINGS.

LET'S ALL COME TOGETHER TO TRY TO MAKE THAT BIG SHIFT.

SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE BOARD TO CONTINUE TO ENGAGE MAYBE WHEN POSSIBLE.

MARK, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE AGAIN THIS YEAR.

I KNOW THERE'LL BE A LOT OF CONVERSATION AROUND.

THE THE BLUEPRINT LEGISLATION.

I KNOW I WAS ASKED TO SPEAK TO THE COMMISSIONERS TWO WEEKS AGO NOW.

I BELIEVE IT WAS WHEN THEY HAD THE DELEGATES HERE.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE ITEMS THAT MAY HAVE LEGS AND REACH ACROSS THE AISLE, TWO OF WHICH WERE RELATED TO FUNDING.

AND I KNOW THAT WILL BE AN ASS OF A LOT OF PEOPLE.

AND TARA MENTIONED IT A LITTLE BIT, THE BLUEPRINT FORMULA.

AND I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE AWARE BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT FOR ANYBODY WHO WOULD BE WATCHING, THE FORMULA WAS DESIGNED ASSUMING A 2% INFLATION YEAR OVER YEAR FLU THAT WE'RE LIVING, THAT'S BLOWN UP.

SO THAT NEEDS TO BE ADJUSTED.

BUT I AM ANTICIPATING THAT THERE WILL BE A CONCERTED EFFORT AND AN ASK OF A SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET ADJUSTMENT FOR INFLATION, PERIOD, NOT HAVING TO TOUCH A BLUEPRINT LEGISLATION, BUT A SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGETARY ASK TO OFFSET WHAT WE'RE ALREADY BEHIND ON, WHO KNOWS WHERE THE LAND IT'LL GO TO THE GOVERNOR.

THEN THERE'S A NEW GOVERNOR COMING IN.

BUT I KNOW THAT WILL PROBABLY BE AN EFFORT, I WOULD ASSUME, FROM BABE BECAUSE I AM MEZA I'M SURE ALL ARE GOING TO COME AND COME TOGETHER AROUND THAT COMPONENT

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AND THERE'S A COMPONENT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH OUR PRE K THREE AS YOU LOOK THROUGH PILLAR ONE WITH EARLY CHILDHOOD.

WE FEEL VERY GOOD ABOUT OUR ABILITY TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF PRE K FOR WE DO A REALLY GOOD JOB OF THAT.

NOW WE HAVE THE SPACE TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF PRE K FOR THE CONCERN WE WOULD HAVE AS WE GO TO INCREASE TO GET MORE KIDS AT THE PRE K THREE LEVEL.

THAT BECOMES A SPACE ISSUE FOR US.

OUR BUILDINGS ARE NOT BIG ENOUGH AND THERE WAS NOT A CAPITAL COMPONENT PUT INTO THE BLUEPRINT BUDGET.

SO MR. BARTON TALKED ABOUT DIFFERENT BUCKETS OF MONEY EARLIER.

THE CAPITAL BUDGET BUILDING BUDGET SIDE, NO MONEY WAS PUT IN THE CAPITAL SIDE FOR SCHOOL SYSTEMS TO BUILD SPACE TO ADD PRE-K THROUGH.

SO I WOULD ANTICIPATE THERE WILL BE A CONCERTED EFFORT OF AN ASK OF IF WE HAVE TO CONTINUE WITH PRE K THREE ADDING THAT MANY IN.

IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE LEGISLATION AND ADJUST THE NUMBER OF PRE K THREE BY A CERTAIN DATE, THEN YOU'VE GOT TO GIVE US MONEY TO ADD ON TO OUR BUILDINGS BECAUSE NONE OF US CAN SEND HELP IN PRE K THREE AS I'M SURE THE BOARD IS AWARE.

FOR THOSE WHO MIGHT BE AT HOME PRE K THREE JUST KIND OF CAN'T THROW IN AFFORDABLE OUTSIDE BECAUSE MORE OF THE REQUIREMENTS ON THOSE ROOMS ARE LIKE WE SAW THE GREENSBORO DUTY CENTER OPENING YOU GOT THE BATHROOMS THAT NEEDING RUNNING WATER FOR WASHING HANDS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

MOREOVER, DAYCARE LICENSING REQUIREMENTS.

THE FACT THAT OUR PORTABLES JUST DON'T OFFER THAT SOLUTION.

IT'S A BRICK AND MORTAR SOLUTION.

SO THERE WILL BE SOME CONCERTED EFFORT IN.

MARK, I KNOW YOU'LL BE ON THE CALLS AS WELL AS LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE, BUT WE'LL ALL BE WORKING ON THAT.

AND I KNOW I'LL BE KEEPING THE BOARD AWARE, TOO.

THERE'S THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO TO HELP.

VISIT ANNAPOLIS IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY.

AND THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS.

IF THERE'S ANY ODOR IN THE AIR, I GUESS SNIFFING THE WIND FOR 2023 LEGISLATIVE INITIATIVES, SOME PLACE, SOME COUNTY, WHETHER IT'S MADE, BUT SOME ONE DELEGATE OR ONE SENATOR COULD SPONSOR A LEGISLATION, WOULD THEY DO A LOT OF SUPPORT OR NOT THAT COULD ATTACK OR ENHANCE OR CHANGE IN THAT ORDER? YEAH, YEAH.

I MEAN, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS GRANDER, MEANING A LOT OF SPONSORS MAY HAVE INVOLVED, YOU HEAR ABOUT IT SOONER THAN LATER, BUT SOMETIMES SOMETHING JUST POPS IN THERE WHICH YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT.

BUT THAT COULD HAPPEN.

AND IT COULD, DEPENDING ON THE POWER BEHIND IT, COULD UPSET THE WHOLE APPLECART.

SO THERE'S A REAL WOULD BE BETTER.

IT COULD ENHANCE THEM. THERE'S A REALLY INTERESTING PART THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH BLUEPRINT THAT I'M VERY INTERESTED.

TO SEE WHERE IT GOES.

I'VE BEEN ASKED TO SIT ON A ROUNDTABLE CALL WITH MR. SCHROEDER, THE STATE SUPERINTENDENT.

HE PUT TOGETHER A PILOT PROJECT AND THE BOARD HAD SEEN THE GRAPHIC.

EARLIER IN THE YEAR, I REFERENCED IT AT THE.

WELCOME BACK. HE'S PUT SOME FUNDING FORMULAS ASSOCIATED WITH NEIGHBORHOOD INDICATORS OF POVERTY, USING THAT AS AN INDICATOR FOR POVERTY INSTEAD OF FREE MEALS APPLICATIONS.

THIS IS JUST BASED ON THE NUMBERS THAT HE PROPOSED AND THE REPORT THAT WENT TO THE I B CAROLINE COUNTY, IF THEY WENT WITH WHAT HE APPROVED, WOULD BE LOOKING AT INCREASE TO OUR COMPREHENSIVE OR OUR STORY.

SO OUR MONEY WE GET FOR OUR KIDS WHO QUALIFY FOR THESE MEALS.

INCREASE OF SOMETHING I BELIEVE IS AROUND $13 MILLION PER YEAR IN STATE AID.

YEAH, THAT WAS MY REACTION WHEN I READ IT.

MY EYES WERE HUGE.

I WAS LIKE, WELL, THERE GOES 60 K, I GOT THAT.

WHERE DOES THAT MONEY COME FROM? THAT'S NOT IT. BUT I CAN TELL YOU, IS THAT WHAT COMES OUT OF THAT CONVERSATION WITH A ROUNDTABLE IS IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE THAT'S GOING TO THAT WOULD HAVE TO LEAD TO LEGISLATIVE CHANGE IN ANNAPOLIS.

YEAH. IF THAT IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT GOES TO A LEGISLATIVE CHANGE IN ANNAPOLIS, THAT'D BE SOMETHING I WOULD REALLY TALK TO OUR BOARD ABOUT, ABOUT HOW DO WE HELP? POSSIBLY SUPPORT WHAT THAT CAN MEAN FOR FUNDING FOR A SCHOOL SYSTEM LIKE OURS.

AND IT WOULD BE A MONUMENTAL SHIFT IN WHAT WE CAN PROVIDE, HOW WE CAN SUPPORT OUR STAFF, AND HOW WE CAN SUPPORT ALL OF OUR KIDS BETTER. SO IF THAT WERE TO COME TO FRUITION, YOU'D BE THE FIRST ONE I'D PROBABLY BE REACHING OUT TO AS SOON AS WE KNOW LEGISLATION GETS INTRODUCED AND I'LL LET YOU KNOW HOW THE CONVERSATION GOES.

WE'RE TRYING TO FIND A DATE WHERE A FEW OF US.

SCHOOL SYSTEMS CAN ALL GET TOGETHER TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH THEM.

BUT I'M HOPING IT LEADS TO A LEGISLATIVE EFFORT BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WE'VE GOT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF TO EFFECT THE CHANGE THAT WE NEED.

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BUT IF THEY HAVE TO COME UP WITH A CHUNK OF MONEY, WHERE DOES THAT COME FROM? AND SO THEIR REPRESENTATIVE BODY, IF YOU WILL, WITH MAKEUP AND THEIR WINTER MEETINGS ARE COMING UP, I THINK IN DECEMBER, THEY USUALLY HAVE I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE DOING THAT, BUT I CAN'T IMAGINE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT.

I DON'T THINK ANY OF THEM WANT TO OPPOSE.

POSITIVE PIECES OF BLUEPRINT, BUT THEY HAVE TO LOOK AT WHERE'S THIS MONEY COMING FROM.

MAKO, IF MAKO AND MABE COULD COME TOGETHER WITH AN UNDERSTANDING, IT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE POWERFUL BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'VE HEARD OTHERS BEFORE.

OUR COMMISSIONERS SAID, I KNOW WE'VE SAID IT, WE HAVE A RELATIONSHIP LIKE MOST DO NOT HAVE.

RIGHT? SO THERE IS A FEELING THAT IF MAKO AND MABE COULD COME TOGETHER WITH ADVOCATING IN A CERTAIN WAY TO HELP FUND IT, THAT DOESN'T PUT ALL THE BURDEN ON THE COUNTIES.

THAT WOULD BE REALLY STRONG.

IF THEY CAN FIND A WAY TO DO THAT.

I'LL JUST BECAUSE THEY TRIED TO TELL CAROLINE COUNTY, YOU'VE GOT TO COME UP WITH THAT $13 MILLION.

IT'S NOT JUST GOING TO BE CAROLINE.

NO, IT'S GOING TO BE IT'S GOING TO BE FROM WHAT I HEARD YESTERDAY AND MY MEETING, IT WAS I MEAN, CARROLL COUNTY, GARRETT COUNTY, THERE WERE PEOPLE THERE WAS CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE COUNTIES ARE CONCERNED THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO.

ESPECIALLY WITH BRICK AND MORTAR.

AND IT COMES TO THAT THERE'S NO FUNDING FOR IT IS BASICALLY SAID THAT IT'S GOING TO BE YOUR COUNTY GOVERNMENT'S GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO PAY FOR IT.

AND THESE COUNTIES ARE THE SAME SHAPE AS US.

HOW DO WE HOW DO WE HOW DO WE HOW DO WE FIND THAT? I MEAN, WE HAVE 33,000 PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTY TO GET $1,000,000 FROM FOR EVERY MILLION.

IF EVERY PERSON PAID TAXES, IT'S LIKE 30 SOME DOLLARS A PERSON INCREASE AND THAT'S IT.

EVERYONE PAY TAXES. EVERY CHILD, MAN, WOMAN, CHILD, YOU NAME IT.

AND THAT'S NOT THE CASE. AND THAT WAS THAT WAS THE CONVERSATION THAT WAS HAD.

I THINK THIS I FORGET WHAT THE INCREASE WAS.

AND DR. WILLOUGHBY DID THIS FOR SOMETHING ELSE.

AND THEN FOR EVERY PENNY INCREASE IN CAROLINE COUNTY, ON THE TAX ON PROPERTY TAX, I BELIEVE IT WAS LIKE 110,000.

NOT THIS IS THEIRS.

IT'S JUST NOT HERE. HERE.

IT JUST THIS IS GOING TO FORCE EVERYBODY TO TALK, TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR IT, I THINK.

AND THIS IS GOING TO FORCE EVERYBODY TO WORK TOGETHER.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IS UNIQUE AND I'M HOPING WE CAN LEVERAGE SOMETHING THROUGH THE PIECE THAT THE STATE SUPERINTENDENT IS PUSHING IS WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS AND THERE SEEMS TO BE AN UNDERSTANDING, ESPECIALLY COMING OUT OF HIS OFFICE, ABOUT HOW UNIQUE OUR COUNTY IS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT LOOKS AT THE TAXING ABILITY.

AND IT'S NOTHING AGAINST OUR COMMISSIONERS.

IT IS JUST A FACT AND NATURE OF WHERE WE LIVE, THE ECONOMIC BASE, THE PROPERTY BASE, THOSE GENERATORS, BY THE WAY MARYLAND WORKS, THE GENERATORS OF REVENUE ARE NOT THERE.

IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO TAX PEOPLE WHO ARE LESS WEALTHY TO GET TO CLOSE THE GAP.

IT JUST DOESN'T.

IT CAN'T HAPPEN. GARRETT GIBBS THE SAME WAY THAT GARRETT IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE.

EVERYBODY SEES GARRETT AS THE LAKE AND THEY TAX NOT ONLY BOARD ON THE LAKE, I MEAN, THEY REALLY DO.

THEY HIT THEM HARD, BUT GET AWAY FROM THE LAKE, RIGHT? AND THERE'S REAL POVERTY AWAY FROM THE LAKE THAT YOU TYPICALLY DON'T SEE IF YOU'RE DRIVING.

YOU DON'T SEE THAT STUFF, BUT IT'S THERE AWAY FROM THE LAKE AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE TAX BASE THERE.

YOU JUST AGAIN, IT'S VERY SIMILAR.

TAKE THE LAKE OUT OF GARRETT.

WE LOOK A LOT ALIKE.

SO, YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

THEY HAVE A PROBLEM. WE DON'T HAVE TO.

IS THAT A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF GARRETT COUNTY'S LAND IS OWNED BY THE STATE? YEAH. AND THEY'RE NOT PAYING TAXES.

THE COUNTY IS NOT GETTING ANY MONEY FROM THAT OTHER THAN WHATEVER REVENUE COMES FROM TOURISM OR TIMBER SALES.

AND I KNOW THAT WHILE THEY MANAGE BOTH LANDS.

I KNOW HOW THOSE FOLK FEEL ABOUT IT.

SO THAT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WITH THE LEGISLATURE COMING IN AND ARE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE EITHER NEW TO THE LEGISLATURE OR REELECTED.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE ON AN AGENDA.

AND OF COURSE, A NEW GOVERNOR AND ALL THAT.

SO I WANT TO COMMENT JUST ABOUT THE LEGISLATURE A LITTLE BIT THERE.

AND YOU MENTIONED THIS, BUT I JUST I MADE NOTE OF THIS.

IT JUST WAS THINKING IT.

SO PEOPLE HAVE A FINITE AMOUNT OF TIME AND ENERGY.

AND SO THE PEOPLE YOU MENTIONED, WE HAVE THE TALENT, BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING ELSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO.

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WITHOUT THAT BEING A MEANINGFUL CHANGE, PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO ALL OF THAT WITHOUT LETTING SOMETHING ELSE.

WILL IT BE LESS RESPONSIVENESS IN SUPPORT OF THE SCHOOL OR THE TEACHER? SO THE ADMINISTRATOR, WHO KNOWS THAT'S KIND OF REALLY LAUNCHED.

YOU'RE ON IT. AND I GET THAT.

AND WE'RE GOING TO FIND WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN DO INTERNALLY TO LESSEN THE INTERNAL DEMANDS WE PUT ON FOLKS.

THERE'S ONLY SO MANY BRICKS YOU CAN PUT IN THE WHEELBARROW AND STILL BE ABLE TO MOVE IT.

THAT AND FOR US TO TRULY HAVE MEANINGFUL STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT.

AND OUR COMMITTEES, LIKE I SAID, ARE BOTH INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL FOLKS.

THEY'VE GOT TO MEET IN THE EVENINGS.

YOU'VE GOT TO MEET AFTER SCHOOL.

RIGHT. SO IT JUST I MEAN, AGAIN, IT'S AGAIN, WE HAVE THE TALENT.

AND WHEN WE FIND WAYS TO SUPPORT HOW WE CAN THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

BUT IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE A MONUMENTAL IT'S GOING TO BE A MARATHON.

I MEAN, THERE'S NO WAY TO PUT IT FOR THEM, FOR EVERYBODY ASSOCIATED WITH THIS WORK OVER THE NEXT ABOUT THREE MONTHS.

I'M NOT LAUGHING. I WAS LAUGHING AT MY NOTES THAT IT'S PAINFUL TO HEAR ALL THIS AND WE'RE NOT DOING THE WORK.

IT'S LIKE A GANTLET.

I MEAN, AT THIS POINT, LIKE, WE'RE IN THIS TIME CRUNCH.

YOU'VE GIVEN ALL THIS INFORMATION.

ONE THING I JUST I DO WANT TO KIND OF JUST SHARE AS A LITTLE NOTE FOR THE BUDGETING PIECE IS HUGE.

I DO THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A MOVING PART.

ONE OTHER THING THAT THE BLUEPRINT COORDINATORS CONTINUE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS AROUND WITH ANYONE THAT WILL LISTEN AT OUR MEETINGS IS THAT THIS PLAN DID NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE PANDEMIC.

SO THIS WAS WRITTEN BEFORE THE PANDEMIC.

THE EXPECTATIONS WERE BEFORE THE PANDEMIC.

AND WE'RE LOOKING AT A YEAR AND A HALF OF LOST LEARNING, WHICH CAN TRANSLATE INTO UP TO THREE YEARS TO RECUPERATE IF WE'RE LOOKING AT ANY HISTORICAL DATA ON THAT.

AND WITH THAT, THERE HAS TO BE SOME GRACE.

I MEAN, THERE HAS TO BE SOME UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS INCORPORATING A PRE PANDEMIC ENVIRONMENT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT PEER REVIEWED DATA TO TALK ABOUT HOW LONG IT TAKES TO CATCH UP FROM LEARNING LOSS.

ONE OF THE ONLY THINGS I COULD FIND WAS ON HURRICANE KATRINA.

THEY LOST A SEMESTER OF LEARNING.

IT TOOK THEM TWO YEARS TO RECUPERATE FROM THAT ONE SEMESTER OF LOSS.

WHERE ARE WE AS A NATION? AND THIS IS A GREAT IDEA, GREAT CONCEPT.

LET'S LOOK AT IT FROM THE LENS OF YOU'VE GOT A YEAR AND A HALF OF LEARNING LOSS.

YOU HAVE TO RECUPERATE, WHICH MAY TAKE THREE YEARS.

GREAT. SO IF THERE'S ANY CONVERSATION, IF THERE'S ANY REFERENCE POINT, SOME OF THE SPECIFICS, YES, IT'S LAW.

BUT WE HAVE A NEW DYNAMIC.

WE HAVE A NEW NOW.

WE HAVE A NEW NORM.

YEAH. IT'S NOT JUST LIKE, OKAY, SO WE'RE REALLY BEHIND BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC, BLAH, BLAH.

NO, THE KIDS ARE THE STUDENTS ARE BEHIND YOU TRYING TO TEST TO SEE WE LEFT A LOT OF TIME, TEST TO SEE WHERE WE ARE, WHERE THE KIDS ARE, AND THEY'RE LEARNING AND TRYING TO PLAY CATCH UP SO THAT THEY AREN'T BEHIND WHEN THEY'RE 17 YEARS OLD.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I DO.

BUT THAT IS SUCH A HORRIBLE POINT.

AND HOPEFULLY PEOPLE ARE LISTENING, MEANING THAT PEOPLE CAN AFFECT IT AT THE SAME PEOPLE THAT WE'RE ASKING.

TO PLAY CATCH UP. WE'RE ALSO ASKING THEM TO WORK TO WORK ON ALL THIS AND GET ALL THIS TOGETHER.

CORRECT. THEY'VE GOT TO BE BEING PULLED AWAY FROM SOME OF THAT.

THERE'S NO WAY THEY'RE NOT.

AND TO THAT END, I THINK THAT'S WHY WE'RE SEEING THE REFOCUS ON THE WAY THAT IT'S BEING PRESENTED TO US AND WHAT IS DUE IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS.

BECAUSE THIS CAN GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET A NEW BASELINE.

LET'S GET A NEW SET OF BASELINE DATA TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD FOR COLLEGE AND CAREER READY FOR ANYTHING.

WHEN IT COMES TO STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT.

YEAH. GOOD STUFF.

YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT'S OCCURRED TO ME, TOO, THAT WE JUST NEED TO THINK ABOUT AND WE SIGNED EARLIER THE NEGOTIATING AGREEMENT WITH THE TEACHERS.

YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN ON A BOARD FOR 14 YEARS, BUT I STARTED 16 YEARS AGO WITH MY FIRST BOARD.

SO 16 YEARS I'VE BEEN WATCHING AND PAYING ATTENTION AND I HAVEN'T SEEN A BOARD YET, AN ADMINISTRATION THAT DIDN'T TRY TO MAXIMIZE THEIR BUDGET AND GET AS MUCH AS THEY COULD TO STAFF. AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME MISUNDERSTANDINGS AND I THINK THEY'RE GETTING CLEARED UP.

BUT THAT TO BE SAID, YOU KNOW, PUSHING SALARY AND THIS ONE THRESHOLD OF STARTING TEACHERS AT 60,000.

AGAIN, WHERE THAT CAME FROM, I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU KNOW, WHO VOTED FOR THAT.

WHERE DO THEY LIVE? I DON'T KNOW.

YOU KNOW, 60,000 IN PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY DOESN'T GO AS FAR AS 60,000 IN SOMERSET COUNTY OR CAROLINE COUNTY.

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IF A HIGH SCHOOL COUPLE GOT OUT OF COLLEGE TOGETHER AND STARTED IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM TOGETHER, AND WE'RE MAKING $120,000 OR JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, 50,000 APIECE, 100,000 IN CAROLINE COUNTY, THEY'RE LIVING LARGE OR, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT A GOOD FOOT, THEY'VE GOT A GOOD START.

AND THAT'S LOST SOMETIMES.

AND THERE'S DISCUSSIONS VERSUS THAT SAME COUPLE IN HOWARD COUNTY OR OTHER COUNTIES.

IT DOESN'T MEAN WE SHOULDN'T HAVE A GOAL TO CONTINUE TO PUSH SALARIES WHERE THEY NEED TO GO.

THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING.

BUT IT'S INTERESTING. THIS WAS ANOTHER LITTLE SALVAGE I HAD, AND I GUESS THE INTERNET HAS TAKEN THIS AWAY.

BUT I WOULD JUST SAY THIS WOULD BE AN ADVOCATE FOR SOMETIMES THE OLD TACTILE, YOU KNOW, HERE'S 40 PAGE OF INFORMATION IN A BACK POCKET, IN A BAG.

I'VE BEEN CARRYING IT SINCE 2012.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHEN THEY STOPPED MAKING THEM.

IT WAS IT CAME OUT EVERY YEAR AFTER THAT BOOK.

IT CAME OUT EVERY YEAR.

AND THE BOARD MEMBERS AND THE STAFF GOT IT EVERY YEAR AFTER THE YEAR.

SO THIS WAS 1112.

WE GOT WE'D GET IT IN 13.

AND IT WAS THE STATISTICS OF THE STATE OF MARYLAND TEACHING SYSTEM, 40 PAGES OF THEM, EVERYTHING FROM I MEAN HERE'S COST PER PUPIL WITH CRAZY TO THINK COUNTY BY COST PER PUPIL IT'S DOG EARED HERE CAROLINE COUNTY WAS THIRD FROM THE BOTTOM AT $11,823. YOU NEVER GUESS UNLESS YOU'VE BEEN ASKED THIS TRICK QUESTION BEFORE.

WHO'S THE TOP SPENDER? COST PER PUPIL IN THE STATE OF MARYLAND IN 2011? 12? CHESTER COUNTY OR CHESTER COUNTY? YEAH, BALTIMORE COUNTY.

IT WAS WORCESTER COUNTY, OCEAN CITY TAX BASE.

BUT YOU TALK ABOUT THE TAX BASE.

BUT TO SAY THAT I WAS LOOKING AT FIRST YEAR TEACHERS AND TO SHOW WHERE CAROLINE'S GOING THERE TO FIRST GLANCE, GLANCING AT IT QUICKLY, BEGINNING BACHELOR'S STEP ONE TEACHER IN 2011 12, CAROLINE COUNTY WAS 44,611 12 AND FROM WHAT I GLANCING AT IT, WE WERE ABOUT 5000 BELOW THE TOP. SO IT'S 46,000 WAS MONTGOMERY COUNTY, 46,000 FOR 5000 HIGHER ONLINE. NOW THE THING IS, YOU CAN GET ONLINE, BUT YOU DON'T ALWAYS HAVE YOUR COMPUTER OR YOUR PHONES ARE SO LITTLE.

THIS IS WHY I LOVE THIS.

AND I STILL TELL MSDH, GO BACK TO THIS FOR BOARD MEMBERS.

BUT SO THE 2122 PRESENTATION FROM SOMEBODY, PROBABLY THE STATE SUPERINTENDENT IS SHOWING ENTRY LEVEL BACHELOR'S.

CAROLINE IS 20 THIS IS 2122 STARTING AT 48 FOR 55.

THAT WAS PROBABLY BEFORE THE NEXT NEGOTIATED AGREEMENT WAS SIGNED.

YEAH, BECAUSE ONE WE JUST SIGNED TONIGHT PUTS IT ABOUT 50, CLOSE TO 5050, BECAUSE I THINK LAST YEAR WE WERE 49.

YEAH. BUT SO THAT SHOWS WHAT I'M SEEING.

AND THIS IS INTERESTING.

IT PUTS US 3000 BELOW THE HIGHEST SALARY.

SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 60,000, IS SOMEONE THERE? I HAD TO LOOK AND NO ONE'S THERE YET, BUT WE'RE ABOUT 3000 BELOW.

WHERE WAS MONTGOMERY AND BALTIMORE CITY AND BALTIMORE COUNTY.

BUT THE INTERESTING THING IS FROM 2011, THIS IS JUST NOT EXACTLY ON THE TOPIC, BUT WASHINGTON COUNTY WENT FROM 43,000, WHICH WAS IN 2011 AND 12, WHICH IS 43,000, WHICH WAS 2000 MORE THAN US.

TO 56,000 LAST YEAR.

SO WE'RE AT 48 EIGHT AND THERE ARE 56,000.

SO THE OTHER IS THE BIG COUNTIES WHO'VE BEEN THE BIG COUNTIES STARTED WITH MONTGOMERY AND HOWARD.

YOU KNOW, THERE ARE 3000 MORE THAN US, BUT SOMEHOW SOMEWHERE PORTION IN COUNTY PASS BLUE PASSED EVERYBODY AND IS NOW WASHED IN DID A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT COMPRESSION OF THEIR SCALE.

THEY HAD AN INFLUX OF FUNDING WHICH HELPED AND THEN THEY COMPRESSED BIG TIME.

AND YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS EASY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING NUMBERS, BUT YOU ALSO KNOW THEY HAD A BIG SURGE UP TO 70.

AND OUTSIDE BALTIMORE, WASHINGTON AND BALTIMORE, ALL FLEEING THE CITIES TO GOING OUT IN WASHINGTON COUNTY, PUT THAT COUNTY IN A LOT OF OTHER STRESSES.

BUT I DON'T KNOW, JUST JUST TO THINK.

SO EVEN AT 56,000, THAT'S YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE WANT TO DO IT BEST FOR OUR TEACHERS.

BUT WHEN YOU'RE MAKING THOSE BIG CONVERSATIONS AT THE TOP, I'M MUCH RATHER LIVE IN CAROLINE COUNTY AND MAKE 50 TO 55000 AND LIVE IN SOME OF THESE MORE URBAN AREAS MAKING 60,000.

I GUESS WE JUST HAVE I KEEP THAT IN MIND PERSONALLY, BUT AND THAT'S A GREAT SELLING POINT WHEN WE GET A JOB.

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WE CAN START RECRUITING, COME LIVE ON THESE FROM SHORE.

CAROLINE COUNTY IS GOOD FOR THE LIVING IS GOOD.

WELL I DO LIKE THE VIEW WHICH IS OF COURSE THE CLICHE BUT WORK SMARTER, NOT HARDER.

AND THAT DEFINITELY IS THE ATTITUDE GOING INTO THIS.

SO PAINFUL TO HEAR ABOUT ALL THAT STUFF.

THAT HELPS. YEAH.

WE'LL HAVE CONTINUED UPDATES FOR THE BOARD AS WE WORK THROUGH AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS, WHERE WE ARE WORKING BACKWARDS FROM THE GOAL OF HAVING TO THE BOARD MARCH 7TH BOARD MEETING FOR THE REPORT TO REVIEW.

OBVIOUSLY A SUMMARY VERSION, YOU HAVE IT AHEAD OF TIME, BUT A SUMMARY VERSION OF THE HIGHLIGHTS.

WE WON'T GO THROUGH ALL 98 PAGES WITH YOU THAT NIGHT AND BE LIKE A BOGNER PLAY, BUT THAT IS THE GOAL WE'RE WORKING BACKWARDS FROM TO GET EVERYTHING TO THE BOARD TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW BEFORE IT GOES IN.

AND AS I CAN'T AGREE WITH TARA MORE, WE HAVE THE TALENT.

IT'S JUST PULLING IT ALL TOGETHER IN A MEANINGFUL WAY.

THEY WILL GIVE US FEEDBACK.

THEY'VE TOLD US THEY WILL GIVE US FEEDBACK.

AND AS THINGS NEED TO BE REVISED, OF COURSE WE'LL REVISE IT, BUT IT'LL BE JUNE OR JULY BEFORE WE PROBABLY GET FEEDBACK.

LOOK, YEAH, LOOK AT ALL WITH ALL THE DOCUMENTS THEY'VE GOT TO REVIEW.

YEAH, PROBABLY ONE PERSON FIGURE AT SOME POINT THEY'LL HAVE A, THEY'LL BE CALLING FOR COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO HELP FROM SCHOOL SYSTEMS TO NEW PLANS.

IT'S PROBABLY WHAT THEY'LL DO.

BUT BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GOOD JOB. THANK YOU.

WE'LL KEEP WORKING ON IT AND TRYING TO CARVE OUT TIME AND SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO GET SORT OF THINGS DONE.

REALLY FASHION. THANK YOU FOR STAYING LATE AND SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE FIGHTING SOMETHING.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT CLEARS UP AND I'M ON THE MEND.

THIS IS ACTUALLY ON THE MEND.

WE'LL TAKE CARE OF YOU. I WANT.

YEAH. GOOD.

TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF. BOARD MEMBERS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? ANYTHING FOR THE GOOD OF THE CAUSE? HEARING NONE. WE HAVE A LIST OF YOU HAVE A LIST OF UPCOMING MEETINGS AND EVENTS AND.

[4. Upcoming Meetings/Events]

YOU GOT TO GO CHECK GOOGLE.

BUT DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? I MOVE WE ADJOURN. BY MR. BARTON. SECOND.

SECOND BY MR. GIACOMO.

MR. JONES. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

AYE. IF WE CAN PUT THAT MOTION OUT THERE, WE COULD DO INFINITE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.