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>> GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. IT'S SIX O'CLOCK TUESDAY, DECEMBER 14TH.

[1. Opening Items]

THE CAROLINE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS WORK SESSION, WE MOVED UP A WEEK TO GIVE A LITTLE MORE BUFFER ON THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY.

WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE REGIONAL TECHNOLOGY CENTER, UPDATE INFORMATION FROM OUR DELEGATE, JEFF GRICE, ALSO JR CCTC IN GENERAL.

BUT PRIOR TO THIS, THE BOARD CAME TOGETHER AT 3:11, CALLED THE MEETING TO ORDER FOR THE MOTION BY MR. BARTON, SECONDED BY MS. WAYMAN, FOUR WERE IN ATTENDANCE, ONE WAS ABSENT.

WE HAD A 4-0 VOTE TO GO AND CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

WE THEN HAD A MOTION BY MR. JAMES AND A SECOND BY MS. WAYMAN AND A 4-0 VOTE, WITH ONE ABSENT, GO INTO CLOSED SESSION FOR PERSONNEL AND NEGOTIATED AGREEMENT DISCUSSIONS.

WERE ACTIVELY IN THE MIDST OF OUR COORDINATE IN OUR SUPERINTENDENT SEARCH, AND ALSO RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR UNION AS WELL AT THE SAME TIME.

THAT BEING SAID, I LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION TO RECONVENE AND OPEN SESSION.

>> I SAY MOVE.

>> MOTION BY MS. WAYMAN.

>> SECOND.

>> SECOND BY MR. JONES. ALL AS A FAVOR?

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> THAT'S UNANIMOUS 3-0 VOTE, I GUESS WE'D SAY MR. BARTON HAD TO LEAVE AFTER CLOSED SESSION.

HE HAD A COMMITMENT THIS EVENING, SO NOW IT'S JUST A FORUM OF THREE AND WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

[NOISE] IF WE CAN STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

[NOISE]

>> THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> THANK YOU. I'VE BEEN SAYING IT AND I'LL CONTINUE TO SAY IT, I GUESS, TRY TO STAY IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE STATES MANDATE ON MASKS INSIDE SCHOOL BUILDINGS.

THIS IS A CENTRAL OFFICE OR THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS, SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAINTAIN OUR SOCIAL DISTANCE.

I THINK WE'RE ALL SIX FEET APART, BUT AT SAME TIME, WE'RE WEARING MASKS.

BUT PLEASE, FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC IN THE RECORD, IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE FEEL WELCOME TO PULL YOUR MASK DOWN WHILE YOU'RE SPEAKING.

WITH THAT, I'LL SAY OKAY.

WE HAVE THE AGENDA AS I OUTLINED, THE ORIGINAL TEXT CENTER AND DISCUSSION WITH MR. GRICE AND THIS CCTC UPDATE IN GENERAL.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS OUTLINED?

>> SUBMITTED.

>> SECOND.

>> MOTION BY MR. JONES AND SECOND BY MS. WAYMAN AND AYE IS IN FAVOR?

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ALL RIGHT. HERE WE GO, DR. SIEMENS,

[2. Discussion Items]

I'LL JUST SAY WHATEVER YOU'RE GOING TO ADD IS I KNEW DELEGATE GRICE HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN DISCUSSIONS OF THE REGIONAL TECH CENTER FOR A FEW YEARS NOW, LET HIM GO MORE INTO THAT.

I KNOW I'VE SEEN AND BEEN PART OF DISCUSSIONS PROBABLY A COUPLE YEARS AGO, BUT IT'S BEEN A COUPLE OF YEARS AND WE HAVE A WHOLE NEW BOARD NOW AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THE CONFLICTS THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS HAD.

BUT AT LEAST NOW WILL HAVE A FRESH THREE OUT OF FIVE WITH FRESH IN THE UPDATED ADMINISTRATION WITH UPDATED INFORMATION.

>> YEAH, I'LL JUST ADD IN THAT AS WELL. THANK YOU MR. MILGRAM.

I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE PART OF THE EVENING PRESENTATION THAT DELI GRICE ARRANGED AT GSB COMMUNITY COLLEGE COUPLE OF YEARS AGO ON REGIONAL TECH CENTER CONCEPT AND AGAIN, SEVERAL VOTED FOR A NEW ROLES, SO LISTENING PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY NOW AS WELL THAN BEFORE AND THE BOARD ALSO APPROVED ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN BACK IN OCTOBER, I BELIEVE IT WAS IN OUR PROJECTION OF THE NEXT ROUND OF CAPITAL PROJECTS, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF YEARS OUT.

ONE OF THOSE IS A NEW CAREER AND TECHNOLOGY CENTER FOR CAROLINE COUNTY.

WE UNDERSTAND THE DEBT CAPACITY THAT COUNTY IS UNDER.

I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT AND THE CHALLENGES THAT PRESENTS AS WE'RE LOOKING TO POTENTIALLY NEED A NEW BUILDING.

THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT ALSO WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS OBVIOUSLY WORTH US EXPLORING, REHEARING ABOUT, AND SEEING WHERE THAT LANDS RIGHT NOW IS WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO NAVIGATE THAT IN FUTURE YEARS TO MEET OUR NEEDS AS WELL.

THAT WAS PART OF IT, WHAT CAME TOGETHER.

DELEGATES, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT AND YOU WANT TO PROBABLY HELP RESET THE STAGE OF WHERE WITH THE THINKING AND THE FOLLOW PROCESS WAS AND WHERE YOU THINK THAT MIGHT POTENTIALLY HAVE SOME LEGS.

>> SURE. ACTUALLY, I'LL JUST GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE FIRST IF I COULD.

YEAH, THIS IS CERTAINLY AN IDEA THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT EVEN ORIGINATED IN CAROLINE COUNTY.

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I THINK IT'S REALLY STARTED IN QUEEN ANNE AND THE CHAMBER COMMERCE THERE, ALONG WITH A COUPLE OF OTHER COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, CERTAINLY FOUND A NEED IN QUEEN ANNE'S COUNTY FOR I GUESS AN EXPANSION.

I'M NOT EVEN TOTALLY SURE WHAT SITUATION THEY'RE IN THERE.

I MEAN, I'M MUCH MORE FAMILIAR WITH CAROLINE OBVIOUSLY.

BUT AS FAR AS MY PARTICIPATION IN THAT DISCUSSION, EVEN THE VERY BEGINNING, IT HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE QUALITY OF OUR PROGRAM HERE IN CAROLINE AT ALL.

I DON'T KNOW OF A SINGLE PERSON WHO'S EVER COMPLAINED ABOUT OUR PROGRAMMING AT CCTC EVER.

IN FACT, I THINK WE'RE AMONG THE PROBABLY THE BEST IN THE STATE WITH A COUPLE OF OUR PROGRAMS, COSMETOLOGY.

I KNOW THAT THEY'VE BEEN STRONG FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

BUT THAT BEING SAID, WE CAN'T IGNORE A COUPLE OF FACTS, ONE WE HAVE AGING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT HAS TO BE DEALT WITH AT SOME POINT.

TWO, WE HAVE A COUNTY THAT'S NOT LOADED WITH MONEY LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER COUNTIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND YOU MENTIONED OUR DEBT SITUATION IN CAROLINE COUNTY.

IT COULD BE DECADES BEFORE WE BUILD A NEW SCHOOL OR MORE AND IT MAY OR MAY NOT EVEN BE IN OUR LIFETIMES THAT WE BUILD A NEW SCHOOL IN CAROLINE COUNTY AND THOSE TWO FACTS ARE VERY DIFFICULT TO OVERCOME AND PLAN FOR.

SINCE I'VE HAD MY ROLE AS A STATE DELEGATE, I HAVE TRAVELED TO OTHER COUNTIES, HAVE A SENSE OF WHERE THEY ARE, IN PARTICULAR WASHINGTON COUNTY AND THE FIRST TIME I MET THOSE FOLKS ACTUALLY WAS A WESTERN MARYLAND RECEPTION AND THEY HAD THE ORIGINAL TEXT SCHOOL THERE AND WHAT'S INTERESTING IS WASHINGTON COUNTY, AS FAR AS THEIR DEMOGRAPHICS IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE FIVE COUNTY CHESAPEAKE COLLEGE SERVICE AREA, THERE'S ABOUT A 150,000 PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON COUNTY.

IF YOU ADD UP THE FIVE COUNTIES THAT CHESAPEAKE COLLEGE SERVES, THERE'S ABOUT A 150,000.

IT'S ALMOST TO THE TEA AS FAR AS DEMOGRAPHICS.

WHEN I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACT ON TWO OCCASIONS TO TOUR THEIR FACILITY THERE.

THEY CAN BECAUSE THEY HAVE CERTAINLY THE MONEY AND THE RESOURCES TO DO IT.

TWO, THEY HAVE THE STUDENT BODY BECAUSE THEY HAVE A REGIONAL CONCEPT.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IN WASHINGTON COUNTY, THEY HAVE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, BUT IT'S ALL WITHIN THE SAME COUNTY [NOISE].

TO FILL A CLASSROOM IS NOT A BIG CHALLENGE FOR THEM WHERE IT WOULD BE FOR US.

IF WE WERE TO HAVE SOME EXOTIC PROGRAM LIKE THERE, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY HAVE HOMELAND SECURITY, THEY HAD SOMEBODY ACTUALLY FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY ACTUALLY RUN AND TEACH THIS PROGRAM.

IT'S ACTUALLY A FEEDER PROGRAM FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY AND ALSO THE NSA.

IT'S AMAZING THAT THEY CAN EVEN OFFER THAT.

BUT IF WE WERE TO HAVE THAT PROGRAM IN CAROLINE, WE WOULD HAVE A HARD TIME FILLING A CLASSROOM.

WE MAY ONLY HAVE TWO OR THREE STUDENTS.

TO BE ABLE TO MANAGE THAT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM.

THAT BEING SAID, I THINK IF WE WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND OUR PROGRAMMING, WE WOULD ALMOST HAVE TO HAVE THAT VOLUME OF STUDENTS TO BE ABLE TO FEED THAT PROGRAM AND ALSO TO SHARE IN THE EXPENSE WITH OTHER COUNTIES AS WELL.

CHESAPEAKE COLLEGE IS COMPLETELY ONBOARD.

DR. COPPER SMITH IS VERY EXCITED.

THE ENTIRE BOARD UNANIMOUSLY IS VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

IF WE COULD POTENTIALLY DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THEN SOME CAPITAL MONEY COULD BE SOURCED FROM DIFFERENT POTS OF MONEY.

WHERE IF YOU WERE TO BUILD A SCHOOL ON YOUR OWN, IT COULDN'T BE.

FOR EXAMPLE, M-HACK.

WE CAN PROBABLY GET M-HACK MONEY.

WE CAN PROBABLY GET MONEY THAT WOULD OTHERWISE GO TO CHESAPEAKE COLLEGE, BUT WE COULD BUILD INFRASTRUCTURE EVEN THOUGH IT'S A REGIONAL HIGH SCHOOL.

BUT WE CAN ALSO LEVERAGE YOUR TYPICAL SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION MONEY.

BUT WHAT'S VERY UNIQUE ABOUT A REGIONAL PROGRAM THAT INVOLVES MULTIPLE COUNTIES IS THAT IT'S SOMETHING WE'VE NEVER DONE BEFORE.

THIS WILL BE A PILOT PROJECT.

SO HOW WOULD WE GO ABOUT DOING THAT? THAT WAS A CHALLENGE THAT WE HAD SEVERAL YEARS AGO THAT REQUIRED LEGISLATION WHICH WE ENDED UP PASSING, WHICH IS ALSO VERY GOOD.

AT THE SAME TIME, I SAT ON THE NAACP COMMISSION, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER THAT OR NOT, IT WAS A SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION COMMISSION ON HOW THEY WERE GOING TO CHANGE ALL THE FORMULAS FOR WHEN THE CAPITAL PSI FOR SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION.

IT WAS A MAJOR PRIORITY FOR ME AND BEING A MEMBER OF THAT COMMISSION THAT WE GIVE A LOT OF OUR FOCUS AND ATTENTION ON CURRENT TECHNOLOGY PROGRAMMING.

WE ACTUALLY CARVED OUT PART OF THE FUNDING FORMULA FOR SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION OR CURRENT TECH CENTERS.

ALSO, ON THE OPERATING SIDE, WE MADE SURE THAT WE ALSO CARVED OUT SOME LANGUAGE AND PROGRAM THAT WOULD ALSO GO FOR SOME OPERATING FUNDING FOR CURRENT TECH SCHOOLS.

WE ARE SETUP FROM THE STATE'S PERSPECTIVE.

[00:10:01]

WE'RE READY FOR THIS.

THERE IS NO SCHOOL NOW BECAUSE THE WAY WE DRAFTED THAT LEGISLATION, IT'S 100 PERCENT ENTIRELY LOCAL CONTROL.

WITH THIS, IT WON'T HAPPEN WITHOUT YOU GUYS.

THIS IS THE REASON WHY I'M HERE NOW.

I DON'T WANT TO TWIST ANYBODY'S ARMS. I COME FROM LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND WHEN I'M IN ANNAPOLIS AND I ARGUE ON A LOT OF BILLS THAT ARE HARMFUL [LAUGHTER], ESPECIALLY TO THE EASTERN SHORE.

I'M CONSTANTLY MAKING THE ARGUMENT ABOUT LOCAL CONTROL.

LET THE LOCAL GOVERNING BODIES, LET THE LOCAL SCHOOL BOARDS DECIDE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE RUBBER HITS THE ROAD.

THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE MORE ENTRENCHED IN THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS OF WHAT'S GOING ON LOCALLY THAN WE ARE.

WE MAKE MORE HOLISTIC POLICY DECISIONS AT THE STATE LEVEL.

WE VERY DELIBERATELY WHEN WE CRAFTED THAT LEGISLATION, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CONTROL WAS WITH YOU GUYS AND ENTIRELY WITH YOU GUYS AS WELL.

I GUESS AT THIS POINT, I JUST HOPE THAT WE CAN JUST HAVE A CONVERSATION AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR.

AT THE VERY LEAST, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE PLENTY OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE COMPLETELY ON BOARD.

I THINK SOME MEMBERS OF THE SCHOOL BOARD ARE, I DON'T KNOW COLLECTIVELY ON WHERE THE SCHOOL BOARD IS.

[NOISE] KENT COUNTY IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF A CHALLENGE WITH THEM, I THINK WITH LOGISTICS, PROBABLY, BECAUSE WHARTON'S STILL PRETTY GOOD DISTANCE FROM CHESAPEAKE COLLEGE.

BUT I THINK THAT WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS, WHAT THEY DO IN WASHINGTON COUNTY IS THE STUDENTS WILL GO TO THEIR HOME-SCHOOL AND THEN THEY BUS, THEN THEY'LL COLLECT THEIR STUDENTS, THEN THEY'LL BUS THEM TO THE TECH REGIONAL SCHOOL AND THEN BUS THEM BACK.

IN ESSENCE, THEY MISS ONE PERIOD A DAY IS ALL THEY'RE MISSING.

WHAT THE FOCUS OF THEIR EDUCATION, THEY HAVE A DAY AND THEY HAVE B DAY THERE.

A DAY IS MORE OF THEIR REGULAR CURRICULUM, THEIR MATH, SCIENCE, OR WHATEVER YOU NORMALLY TEACH AND THEN THE B DAY IS WHERE THEY GO TO THEIR HANDS ON WHATEVER THEIR CAREER FOCUS IS.

BUT THAT YOU GUYS COULD DESIGN IT ANY WAY YOU WANT TO DESIGN.

YOU CAN JUST HAVE A DAY THERE, B DAY HERE IN THEIR REGULAR CLASSROOMS. IF YOU WANT TO HAVE SPORTS WHICH I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST YOU DON'T, [LAUGHTER] YOU CAN ALSO DO THAT THERE TOO.

OBVIOUSLY THAT WILL COMPLICATE THINGS I THINK IF YOU DO.

BUT FOR AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE AND CAREER READINESS, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS TO STAY AWAY FROM THAT IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU'LL WANT TO CONSIDER.

BUT YEAH, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE NOW.

I WANT TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING WRONG IN CAROLINE COUNTY.

WE JUST HAVE A HUGE UPHILL BATTLE THAT WE'RE EVENTUALLY GOING TO HAVE TO ADDRESS AND DEAL WITH IT BECAUSE WE'RE IN A RURAL COMMUNITY AND MOST OF OUR JOB OPPORTUNITIES AREN'T DOCTORS, ARE NOT LAWYERS, THEY'RE NOT ASTROPHYSICISTS OR BIOLOGY, PHARMACEUTICAL ENGINEERS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

BUT WE WOULD LOVE FOR OUR STUDENTS TO GO IN THOSE FIELDS OBVIOUSLY.

BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS MOST OF OUR JOBS HERE LOCALLY ARE GOING TO BE TRADES.

>> I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION GIVEN THE SUMMARY VIEW OF IT.

BEFORE I OBVIOUSLY OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS THE BOARD HAS OR ANY COMMENTS AND ALL THAT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS ABOUT THE PROGRAMMING IN THE TECH CENTER, IT DOES MEAN A LOT TO HEAR THAT.

EVERYBODY THERE WORKS VERY HARD AND YOU'VE BEEN IN THE STRONG TRADITION OF DOING WELL IN BUILDING ON THAT, BUT YOU'RE ALSO RINGING A VERY TRUE BELL.

THE ABILITY OF AT LEAST CURRENTLY FROM A FISCAL STANDPOINT, THE ABILITY TO FUND THE CONSTRUCTION OF A BRAND NEW CENTER SOMEWHERE. IT'S TOUGH.

IT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH FOR THE COUNTY TO PULL OFF.

SOMETHING THAT WE'LL HAVE TO WRESTLE WITH IN THE FUTURE, CCPS HAS TO WRESTLE WITH IN THE FUTURE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER BECAUSE THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT, THE EXISTING STRUCTURE IS NOT GOING TO LAST FOREVER.

IT'S BAND-AIDED UP PRETTY WELL.

WE'VE MADE SOME UPGRADES, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO LAST FOREVER AT ALL.

IT'S GOING TO COME TO RUIN SOON IN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

THE REGIONAL CONCEPT REALLY MIGHT GIVE US SOME LEGS TO FIND A WAY TO DO IT AND ALSO ALLOW US TO EXPAND OPPORTUNITIES FOR PROGRAMS THAT WE CAN'T AVAIL NOW DUE TO SPACE OR THE FACT THAT JUST NUMBER OF KIDS AS YOU SAID, THESE PROGRAMS GET A LITTLE MORE EXOTIC.

WE'VE GOT A BALANCED CLASS SIZE AND REQUESTS.

IF YOU HAVE A PROGRAM THAT'S REALLY AWESOME THAT YOU'D LOVE TO OFFER BUT WE ARE ONLY GOING TO DRAW FIVE, IT'S GOING TO BE HARD FOR US TO OFFER IT WITH ALL THE OPERATIONAL COSTS THAT GO ALONG WITH IT.

BUT IF WE PULL IN COUNTIES, US JUST FOR HYPOTHETICALS, QUEEN AND TALBOT GOING IN THERE'S AT LEAST THREE COUNTIES WHERE THE KIDS FIT IN A PROGRAM MAKES IT MORE FEASIBLE

[00:15:04]

FOR STAFF ALL OF YOUR SUPPLIES MATERIALS THAT GO ALONG AND MOST OF OUR CPE PROGRAMS ARE VERY RESOURCE HEAVY IN TERMS OF CAPITAL OUTLET.

BUT AGAIN, IT JUST HELPS OFFSET SOME OF THESE CALLS THAT YOU'RE RIGHT, I DON'T SEE US HAVING TO.

THE FISCAL FUTURE IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE.

[OVERLAPPING].

>> THE OPTIONS ARE ENDLESS.

THE REASON WHY TALBOT AND EVEN DORCHESTER ARE PROBABLY NOT IN THE MIX AT ALL BECAUSE THEY JUST BUILT 10 YEARS AGO, THEY BUILT THEIR OWN CAREER CENTER TO GO IN THERE.

BUT THEY CAN STILL PARTICIPATE.

THEY COULD PARTICIPATE ON A PART-TIME BASIS.

THEY HAVE A GREAT AUTO MECHANICS PROGRAM AT LEAST IN HIGH SCHOOL.

THEY WOULDN'T SEND THEM TO CHESAPEAKE COLLEGE TO LEARN AUTO MECHANICS IF THEY ALREADY HAVE A GREAT AUTO MECHANICS PROGRAM THERE ALREADY.

IF YOU GUYS WANT TO INVEST A BUNCH OF MONEY IN YOUR COSMETOLOGY PROGRAM, WHICH YOU COULD POTENTIALLY DO THAT, YOU COULD USE YOUR EXISTING FACILITY FOR THAT, MAKE IT A STATE-OF-THE-ART FACILITY.

THEN POSSIBLY THAT WOULD BE YOUR OPTION AND YOU WOULDN'T SEND THOSE KIDS THERE, OR POSSIBLY I DON'T KNOW HOW LOGISTICALLY YOU WOULD MANAGE THAT TOO.

I THINK YOU ARE DOING THAT NOW WHERE KIDS FROM AT LEAST IN HIGH-SCHOOL WHO WANT TO GO INTO YOUR PROGRAM, THEY COULD POTENTIALLY.

BUT THERE'S ENDLESS OPPORTUNITIES IN DOING THIS AND WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT CHESAPEAKE COLLEGES IS, ONE, THEY HAVE THE SPACE, THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES.

ALSO, BECAUSE THIS WOULD BE A PILOT, WE CAN LEVERAGE MONEY FROM ALL POTS IN DIFFERENT PLACES TOO WHERE YOU'RE VERY LIMITED HERE AND WHERE YOU CAN LEVERAGE THAT MONEY.

>> OBVIOUSLY, BOARD [OVERLAPPING] NEW MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I WILL JUST WORK.

TO THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS HERE AND WHO KNOWS WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO, I GUESS A RANDOM THAT JEFF AND THEY SAID, TIMING SOMETIMES, IS OF EVERYTHING AND I DON'T EXACTLY REMEMBER THE EXACT TIMING, BUT IT'S INTRIGUING.

BUT WHEN IT WAS COMING UP, I THINK WE WERE PRETTY MUCH, IT'S IN THE BALLPARK.

WE WERE FINISHING UP CAROLINE [OVERLAPPING] RENOVATION WHICH HAD SOME CCTC COMPONENTS TO THE CLASSROOM AIR.

WE WEREN'T A SHIP AND EVERYBODY KNOW SOME OF GARMENTS INTENDED TO COME SOUTH AND SOME ARE SUPPOSED TO GO NORTH.

THEN IN THAT SAYING, MY RECOLLECTION WAS TO WHAT JEFF SAID, I THINK DORCHESTER HAD PRETTY RECENTLY RENOVATED A WHOLE SCHOOL TEXT CENTER.

TALBOT COUNTY, SO THEY'RE LIKE NOW, BUT TIME HAS GONE BY, AND NOT TO SAY THAT YOU COULDN'T BUILD A SYSTEM WHERE THERE'S SOMETHING OF DEMAND UP HERE THAT EVEN DORCHESTER AT ALL BUT SEND KIDS THIS DIRECTION, BUT FREES UP SPACE AND NERVE ROOT OR AREAS SO WE CAN SEND KIDS THAT WAY MORE OF A ROTATIONAL REGION, WHO KNOWS WHAT THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE OUT THERE? BUT THE TIMING LINES A FEW YEARS AGO, I JUST DIDN'T SEEM LIKE IT LENDED ITSELF EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS SOME INTERESTS THERE, AND WHO KNOWS WHAT THE FUTURE WILL BE? BUT I JUST LEAVE YOU WITH THAT.

>> IT'S ALSO ON A MUTUAL REGIONAL COUNCIL'S SETS PLAN AS WELL, COMPREHENSIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY, WHICH IS ALSO VERY IMPORTANT FOR FEDERAL TO BE ABLE TO LEVERAGE FEDERAL MONEY, SOME FEDERAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MONEY IN THAT AS WELL.

I THINK THAT IF WE'RE CREATIVE ENOUGH, WE CAN DO THIS WITHOUT A LOT OF LOCAL TAXPAYER MONEY IF WE DO IT RIGHT.

>> THERE'S JOBS A YEAR AFTER GRADUATION WITH [OVERLAPPING] ERASER 100 STATIONS, YOU COULD BE MAKING $25 PLUS AN HOUR.

>> ONE OF THE AREAS WE'VE [NOISE] HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE NEED FOR SKILLED TRADES AND THANKFULLY, JUST BE COLLEGE IS ABLE TO FILL A VOID FOR US RIGHT NOW THROUGH DUAL ENROLLMENT.

WELDERS HAD BEEN IN HIGH DEMAND FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS AND STILL CAN'T TURN OUT ENOUGH WELDERS.

AGAIN, THANKFULLY, CHESAPEAKE AND FILL UP YOUR DUAL ENROLLMENT CAPACITY.

BUT IMAGINE THOSE BEING USED AT ALL FOR A WELDING PROGRAM.

WE DON'T HAVE CAPACITY TO DO IT INTERNALLY.

BUT AGAIN, FOR REGIONALIZED CONCEPT.

NOW, BUT SOMETHING THAT FEEDS IN INDUSTRY THAT PULLING YOU WORK ON THE SHORE IS PLENTY OF WORK FOR IF YOU WANTED TO TRAVEL ACROSS THE BRIDGE.

BUT THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WORK AND A LOT OF THE TRADES AREAS, AND BOARD WERE HERE TONIGHT WHEN THE SANTA YNEZ PRESENTATION ON WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR CTE PROGRAM, WHERE WE'RE GOING AND YOU MENTIONED IT AS WELL DELEGATE KERWIN IS VERY HEAVY IN CTE.

THE WAY THAT'S GOING TO ROLL OUT IS GOING TO CHANGE THE FACE OF THE WAY THAT CAREER IN TECH EDUCATION IS DONE REALLY INVOLVES THE WORKFORCE, INVESTMENT BOARDS AND WAYS THEY'VE NEVER BEEN INVOLVED BEFORE, INVOLVED IN INDUSTRY, IN WAYS IF THERE HAD BEEN INVOLVED IN THE STATE LEVEL AND IT'S REALLY GOING TO INCREASE THE ATTENTION AND FUNDING STREAMS, AS YOU SAID, OPERATIONAL-WISE A LOT OF THIS.

IT'S SO TRUE, IT'S COMMON TO BE REALLY HELPFUL TO REALLY BRING SOME OF THIS CHANGE WE NEED.

>> IT'S ALSO INTERESTING BECAUSE I KNOW THAT TENDS TO PEAK.

IT'S DEFINITELY INTERESTED IN EXPANDING CAREER OPPORTUNITIES IN THERE.

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IT'S A TWO-PATH IN THEIR CAREER OR IN THEIR ACADEMIC WITH A PLAN TO MOVE ON.

BUT THEY REALLY PUTTING A LOT OF FOCUS ON THAT ACADEMIC CAREER PATH.

SURPRISING THAT ARE PROBLEMS BETWEEN HANDS NEED THE ONE THAT'S FALSE.

I WAS THINKING A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO PULL THEM IN.

>> DR. COPPERSMITH WANTED TO BE HERE TONIGHT, BUT HE WAS OUT OF TOWN.

HE CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE. BUT YOU CAN CERTAINLY WELCOME HIM BACK AT ANY TIME.

HE'S SUPER EXCITED FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.

IN FACT, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU'RE ALREADY DOING A LOT OF ONE-ON-ONE ALREADY IN THE NURSING PROGRAM.

I THINK THAT THERE IS SOME DISSIPATION WITH HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, I BELIEVE, AMONG OTHER THINGS TOO.

SO WE CAN JUST EXPAND ON THAT AND IF WE HAVE, LIKE I SAID, SOME OF THESE EXOTIC PROGRAMS TOO THAT WE CAN OFFER.

THEN, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S STILL THERE OR NOT, BUT THERE'S A STIGMA THAT USED TO BE WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL NORTH CAROLINA, [OVERLAPPING] WHEN THE KIDS WENT TO CCT SEE AND IT'S LIKE THAT'S WHERE YOU SEND THE PROBLEM KIDS, SMART KIDS DON'T GO TO, YEAH.

THE THING IS WE NEED OUR SMART KIDS TO [LAUGHTER] GO TO THESE CLASSES.

WE HONESTLY DO BECAUSE EVENTUALLY, THOSE KIDS ARE GOING TO BE OUR BUSINESS LEADERS.

THEY MAY START WELDING FOR SOMEBODY, BUT EVENTUALLY, THEY ARE GOING TO OWN THEIR OWN BUSINESS AND IT COULD BE ONE OF THE BIGGEST COMPANIES ON THE EASTERN SHORE POTENTIALLY.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T JUST SEND OUR SMART KIDS TO FOUR-YEAR COLLEGES AND MAY HAVE BEEN A CAREER THAT STALL OUT AND END UP WITH A LOT OF STUDENT DEBT AT THE END OF THE DAY TOO.

IF WE CAN HAVE A REPUTABLE [OVERLAPPING] PLACE THAT THESE KIDS CAN GO TO SCHOOL WHEN IT STOP, LIKE THE NURSING PROGRAM WE INVESTED 10'S OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN THE NURSING PROGRAM.

WHAT 15 YEARS AGO OR MAYBE EVEN MORE THAN THAT ABOUT 10 OR 15 YEARS AGO, CHESBROUGH AND THEY WERE STATE OF THE ART.

IN FACT, YOU GO TO SOME OF THESE MEDICAL SCHOOLS.

THEY HAD A CHESAPEAKE COLLEGE WAS MUCH MORE ADVANCED THAN IN A LOT OF THESE MEDICAL SCHOOLS HAD AT THE TIME.

THERE'S NO REASON WHY IF WE CAN PULL OUR RESOURCES TOGETHER AND WE HAVE A PILOT PROGRAM AND WE HAVE THE ENTIRE STATE.

I CAN TELL YOU, I SIT ON THE [NOISE] EDUCATION SUBCOMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS, BUT I'M ALSO VERY GOOD FRIENDS WITH THE EDUCATION SUBCOMMITTEE ON WAYS AND MEANS AS WELL AND THOSE GUYS ARE EXCITED ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE THEY LOVE REGIONAL CONCEPTS ANYWHERE IN THE STATE.

WHENEVER YOU CAN POOL RESOURCES TOGETHER AND YOU CAN ACCELERATE.

I CAN TELL YOU MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN ANNAPOLIS, ESPECIALLY ON THE FRONT OF MAJORITY PARTY, THEY LOVE EDUCATION AND THEY WANT TO SPEND MONEY ON EDUCATION AND THEY LOOK FOR WAYS TO SPEND MONEY ON EDUCATION AND I'LL HELP HIM ON THIS ONE.

THIS IS A BIPARTISAN EFFORT THAT YOU CAN GET EXCITED ABOUT.

[OVERLAPPING] THAT I CAN GET EXCITED ABOUT.

>> IS THERE TIMELINE IN DEPICTION?

>> THAT'S UP TO YOU GUYS. THAT'S TOTALLY UP TO YOU GUYS.

BUT LEGISLATION'S PASSED.

[OVERLAPPING] YEAH, WE ENABLED ALL FIVE COUNTIES. JUST BE COLLEGE.

YOU GUYS WOULD DRAFT YOUR WHATEVER MOUS YOU WOULD DRAFT YOUR BY-LAWS.

YOU WOULD ELECT YOUR MEMBERS AND NOT ALL THE COUNTIES HAVE TO PARTICIPATE IN.

IT'S ENTIRELY UP TO YOU HOW YOU WANT TO CREATE THIS THING.

WE JUST ENABLED IT, THAT'S ALL WE DID WITH THIS LEGISLATION.

IN FACT, I CAN FORWARD YOU THE LEGISLATION.

>> YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

>> YOU CAN READ IT IF THERE'S ANY TWEAKS TO IT.

CERTAINLY, WE CAN DO THAT.

THIS SESSION STARTS NEXT MONTH.

>> YEAH.

>> YEAH, WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.

>> I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

CERTAINLY, NOW'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY LOOK AT IT THROUGH THE NEW LENS.

WITH KERWIN, WE'RE ALSO AT A DIFFERENT SPOT.

IT'S MR. RENUKA MENTIONED LOT OF US ARE DIFFERENT SPOTS.

LOT OF COUNTIES ARE AT THIS POINT IN TIME AND WHO KNOWS NOW MIGHT REALLY BE THE TIME TO START PUSHING THIS FORWARD, [NOISE] BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN BY NEXT YEAR, BUT YOU'VE GOT TO START PUSHING THEM SOME TIME [OVERLAPPING] TO GET THERE ON A COUPLE OF YEARS.

>> AS A FORMER STUDENT OF CCP, SAY I HAVE A LOT OF THIS.

>> I WASN'T CALLING YOU, DON'T WORRY.

[LAUGHTER] I DIDN'T AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT AT ALL, [INAUDIBLE]. [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING]

>> SOME OF THE POINTS YOU MAKE AS FAR AS THE AGING INFRASTRUCTURE, I REALLY FEEL LIKE WE NEED MORE THAN ONE SCHOOL BE BUILD.

THAT IF WE'RE BUILDING ANOTHER TECH CENTER, I REALLY THINK LOCKERMAN MIDDLE SCHOOL IS, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE DEALT WITH SOONER THAN LATER.

>> LOCKERMAN IN DENTON, BOTH.

>> EXACTLY. THIS AFFORDS US AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOKING TO DOING THAT. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S JUST GLARING THERE THAT IT'S JUST [INAUDIBLE] DON'T KNOW MORE TO SAY.

WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT AS FAR AS WE DO LOSE GOOD CITIZENS TOO.

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IF WE HAD A GOOD TECH CENTER WHERE WE COULD DEVELOP, LIKE YOU SAY, THESE PEOPLE TO HAVE THESE TYPE OF JOBS.

WE'RE LOSING SOME OF THESE JOBS TOO.

WHEN WE SEND OUR KIDS AWAY TO SCHOOL, THEY GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, THEY DON'T COME BACK. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

IT'S GOOD FAMILIES THAT WE LOOSE, AS FAR AS A COMMUNITY STANDPOINT THAT BUILDS ON THAT.

IT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THE HOMELAND SECURITY PROJECT OR THE CLASS THAT THEY TEACH THERE, BECAUSE I KNOW A FEW PEOPLE IN [INAUDIBLE] COUNTY THAT DO WORK AT THE NSA..

>> GIVE OUR KIDS THAT OPPORTUNITY.

>> WE CAN HAVE OUR KIDS HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE THEY'RE GOOD JOBS THAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE.

THEY DRIVE BACK AND FORTH TO WORK THERE EACH DAY AND THEY LIVE HERE IN THE COUNTY.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD SEE A POSITIVE.

DON'T THINK I HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.

THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT YOU TALK ABOUT DRIVING.

OFTEN WONDER IF THERE'S AGE RESTRICTION, BUT A SCHOOL THAT TEACHES SOME BASICS ABOUT TRUCK DRIVING BECAUSE THAT'S A BIG THING IS DRIVING A TRUCK.

I UNDERSTAND SOME OF, AS FAR AS AGE LIMITATIONS, BUT IF THERE WAS A WAY TO INTRODUCE SOME OF THESE STUDENTS TOO, THAT MAYBE JUST TO THE LEARNING PART OF IT.

BUT STILL THERE'S A BIG NEED FOR TRUCK DRIVING, SO I DON'T KNOW.

IT MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO TEACH THEM THE DRIVING PART OF. [OVERLAPPING].

>> YOU CAN GET A LICENSE, [INAUDIBLE].

>> BUT AT LEAST SOME THAT'S AGE REQUIREMENTS AND THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE THOUGHT OF AT A HIGHER LEVEL AS FAR AS WHAT CAN WE DO TO BE ABLE TO BRING IN PEOPLE YOUNGER INTO THIS PROFESSION? BECAUSE THERE IS A GLARING NEED FOR TRUCK DRIVERS. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU.

IF I COULD. I ALSO FORGOT ABOUT WASHINGTON REGIONAL TECH SCHOOL.

THEY ALSO PARTNER VERY CLOSELY WITH [INAUDIBLE] SO THEY HAVE THEIR OWN FIRE SCHOOL ACTUALLY. THEY HAVE LIKE TOWERS.

THEY HAVE MORE PROFESSIONAL FIRE FIGHTERS OVER THERE.

THESE GUYS AGAIN, MANY OF THEM ARE MAKING A LOT OF MONEY IN THAT FIELD AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY THEY'RE DOING IT AS WELL THERE.

THAT WOULD BE A HUGE OPPORTUNITY FOR US AS WELL AND ALSO THEY HAVE THEIR OWN CADET POLICE ACADEMY THERE AS WELL.

IF YOU ALL WANT A TOUR, WE CAN SET THAT UP.

THOSE GUYS. THEY WOULD WELCOME.

THEY'LL HAVE THEIR CULINARY ARTS PROGRAM.

THEY'LL FEED YOU LUNCH. IT WAS A GREAT TOUR.

THEY'RE VERY PROFESSIONAL.

THEY'LL DO ANYTHING THEY CAN TO HELP YOU. IN FACT, THEY [INAUDIBLE].

>> WANT TO LET THE BOARD KNOW.

WE DO HAVE ANOTHER MEMBER JOIN US TONIGHT.

WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE HERE MR. DAVE HARPER FROM CHESAPEAKE COLLEGE, WAS SENT TO BE HERE ON BEHALF OF DR. COPPERSMITH.

DAVE BEING A LITTLE BIT LATE, IT'S NOT DAVE'S FAULT.

WE ORIGINALLY HAD THE MEETING SCHEDULED AT 7:00 AND MOVED TO THE 6:00, SO YOU'RE EARLY.

THAT'S YOU'RE EARLY FOR THE 7 O'CLOCK. [LAUGHTER]

>>THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

>> BUT I ALSO WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS DIDN'T THINK DAVE SHOWED UP LATE, DR. COPPERSMITH IS NOT HERE LATE.

IT'S WE MOVED THE MEETING UP THAT JUST DIDN'T CONNECT.

>> GLAD TO BE HERE. THANKS, DAVE.

>> THANK YOU, MR. HARPER.

JIM NEWCOM HERE, MARK JONES AND MICHELLE WAYMAN.

MICHELLE, [LAUGHTER] TWO OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS HAD CONFLICT SO WE DO APPRECIATE YOU COMING.

JEFF'S GIVEN US AN UPDATE ON WHAT HE'S BEEN DOING LAST FEW YEARS AS FAR AS PLANNING LEGISLATION.

TIMING WISE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OUR INTERNAL TIMING A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WEREN'T QUITE THERE YET AND NOT THAT WE'RE READY RIGHT NOW.

BUT AS DR. SIMMONS JUST MENTIONED, WE KNOW BETTER THAN ANYONE, IT TAKES A COUPLE OF YEARS TO GET SOMETHING, ESPECIALLY WITH MULTIPLE COUNTIES INVOLVED.

>> TRUE.

>> TALKING ABOUT REGIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, OBVIOUSLY, CHESAPEAKE COLLEGE IS A GREAT RESOURCES AS A COMMUNITY COLLEGE, BUT WHAT INSIGHT OR COMMENTS CAN YOU SHARE AS FAR AS THE POSSIBILITY FOR HIGH SCHOOL, REGIONAL TECH OPPORTUNITY.

FEEL FREE TO TAKE YOUR MASK OFF WHILE SPEAKING, EVERYONE, WHILE SPEAKING UP.

>> YEAH. THANK YOU. HAPPY TO DO SO.

APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND PATIENCE.

JUST TO SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS.

I RECENTLY GOT BACK FROM ALLEGHENY COMMUNITY COLLEGE.

THEY HAVE AN ORGANIZATION ABOUT AS IMPRESSIVE AS WHAT YOU SAW AT WASHINGTON, AND WHAT WE SAW TOGETHER.

MOST COMMUNITY COLLEGES IN THE STATE ARE ABOUT 70 PERCENT TRADITIONAL TRANSFER, 30 PERCENT TECH AND LAB.

THEY'RE INVERTED IN ALLEGHENY.

IT'S ABOUT 70 PERCENT TECH AND LAB, 30 PERCENT TRADITIONAL TRANSFER.

INCREDIBLY EXCITING PARTNERSHIPS BETWEEN LOCAL BUSINESS, INDUSTRY, HIGH SCHOOL, P TECH SCHOOL, EARLY COLLEGE PROGRAMS. FOR ME AND FOR CHESAPEAKE IN PART, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT LIKE LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE AS IT WAS IN [INAUDIBLE] COUNTY.

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SOME OF THE MOST EXCITING THINGS GOING ON IN EDUCATION IN THIS LABS, JUST AS WE SEE IT AT CCTC NOW IN OUR LABS AT CHESAPEAKE.

THE ONLY OTHER INSIGHT I WOULD OFFER IS THAT I WORK ON A ROUTINE BASIS ACROSS A CAMPUS THAT IS [INAUDIBLE], COMPARED TO WHAT IT HAS BEEN IN MY EXPERIENCE IN THE LAST 16 YEARS AT CHESAPEAKE COLLEGE.

THE DEMAND FOR ONLINE EDUCATION IS INCREASING SUBSTANTIALLY AND WE ARE RESPONDING TO THAT WITH THE BEST QUALITY PRODUCT WE CAN OFFER.

WHEN WE OPEN COURSES BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, THE ONLINE OFFERINGS FILL UP QUICKEST AND FIRST AND THAT HAS ONLY BEEN ACCELERATED OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

WHEN I WALK ACROSS THE CAMPUS AND LOOK AT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, THE QUESTION COMES, WHAT IS THE MOST EFFICIENT USE OF THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE? I THINK THAT PART OF THAT ANSWER LIES IN WHAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING IN WASHINGTON, WHAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING IN ALLEGHENY.

I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE CONVERSATIONS TO COME.

[BACKGROUND] PRIORITY 2 OF OUR STRATEGIC PLAN IS CENTERED AROUND A BALANCE.

IT'S ALWAYS BEEN 50, 50 BETWEEN TRANSFER AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT FROM THE INCEPTION OF THE COLLEGE BUT WE ACTUALLY GOT WAYS TO GO BEFORE WE GET TO THAT POINT, THE BOARD WOULD LOVE TO SEE US GET TO THAT POINT.

WE SEE IT IN PART AS A REAL BIG SLICE OF THE CONTINUED VIABILITY OF THE INSTITUTION TO FULLY SERVE OUR WHOLE MISSION.

NOT TO NEGLECT THE TRANSFER PIECE WHICH IS CRITICAL AND VERY IMPORTANT TO US, BUT TO BUILD OUT THAT WORKFORCE PIECE WHICH HAS ATROPHIED TO SOME EXTENT OVER TIME.

THAT INCLUDES SHORTER-TERM CERTIFICATIONS AND UP SCALING BECAUSE YOU CAN HAVE A LOT OF NIMBLENESS OR AGILITY AND FLEXIBILITY, AND NOT JUST FROM MOVING CONTENT ONLINE WHERE IT'S VERY ACCESSIBLE TO STUDENTS, BUT ALSO OFFERING SHORT-TERM DIRECTOR WORKFORCE AND DIRECTIVE BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY SKILLS AND CERTIFICATIONS.

BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SHORTER-TERM TRAINING WHICH IS INCREASINGLY IN DEMAND AND INCREASINGLY WHAT COMMUNITY COLLEGES NATIONALLY ARE LOOKING AT IN ORDER TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THEIR REGION.

WE KNOW THAT'S WHERE THE GAPS ARE BUSINESSES AND INDUSTRIES AS WE GO OUT AND TALK TO THEM, THAT'S WHERE THE GAPS ARE.

>> I DON'T KNOW. WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY IS, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FROM THOSE SECONDARY EDUCATION SIDE OF THINGS THAT ACCOUNTING DISTRICT LEVEL.

THINGS ARE CHANGING, INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS ARE CHANGING.

SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE EVEN INITIALLY, MAYBE NOT COVID IMPACTED, BUT YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS BEING IMPACTED BY ONLINE DEMANDS AND REQUIREMENTS.

THERE'S POTENTIALLY SQUARE FOOTAGE AIR THAT COULD BE RE-UTILIZED WITHOUT EVEN NEW CONSTRUCTION DOLLARS, JUST MAINTENANCE DOLLARS.

>> YOU CAN IMAGINE I HAD TO BE VERY CAREFUL.

[LAUGHTER]

>> HYPOTHETICALLY.

>> BUT I APPRECIATE THAT.

>> WE ARE BEING RECORDED.

>> I KNOW I'M ON CAMERA, BUT I DON'T THINK ANYONE WOULD RUN AWAY FROM THAT STATEMENT.

I WELCOME ANYBODY TO WALK ACROSS OUR CAMPUS.

WE WERE AT 55 PERCENT ONLINE IN THE FALL RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE HOPING TO GO TO 35 PERCENT ONLINE IN THE SPRING AS WE WELCOME STUDENTS INCREASINGLY BACK.

BUT IT IS NOT YET CLEAR THAT THAT'S WHERE THE ENROLLMENT NUMBERS ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO GO.

NO MATTER WHERE THAT PENDULUM SWINGS, IT'S GOING TO BE POST-PANDEMIC MORE ONLINE THAN IT WAS PRE-PANDEMIC.

THAT'S A GREAT THING. IT'S AN EXCITING THING FOR US.

LOTS OF GOOD STUFF AHEAD IN EDUCATION, BUT NO QUESTION THE SQUARE FOOTAGE ON OUR CAMPUS IS NOT COMPLETELY OCCUPIED BY THE TRADITIONAL TRANSFER MISSION AND THAT LEAVES OTHER SQUARE FOOTAGE. WE SHOULD LOOK AT IT.

>> WHAT'S IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN FIVE YEARS? 10 YEARS?

>> THAT'S RIGHT. [BACKGROUND]

>> IT'S A 100 ACRE CAMPUS.

YES. WE HAVE BUILDING EXPANSION OPPORTUNITY EVEN WITHIN THE IMMEDIATE CIRCLE.

WE WOULD HAVE SOME EXPANSION TO DO BEFORE WE GOT TO EVEN THE POINT OF HAVING TO BUILD ANOTHER STRUCTURE.

>> BOARD MEMBERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CONVERSATION?

>> IT'S JUST A PRELIMINARY CONVERSATION.

LIKE I SAID, I'M SAD THAT EVERYONE WASN'T HERE, BUT I THINK WHO KNOWS WHAT THE FUTURE'S GOING TO BE.

WE'D LOOK AT OUR MASTER FACILITY PLAN,

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MR. JONES, YOU POINTED OUT.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO CONTINUE TO DO AND HOW DO WE BEST UTILIZE THAT FOR STUDENTS AND OUR COUNTY DEBT SEALANTS?

>> I THINK THAT MAYBE OUR NEXT STEP, IF THAT'S OKAY, POSSIBLY IS TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH SOME OF THE OTHER COUNTIES TO FIND OUT WHAT, I'M SURE THEY'VE PROBABLY DONE SOME NEEDED ASSESSMENT THEMSELVES AND OBVIOUSLY YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY.

TO SEE I GUESS TO WHAT EXTENT MAYBE SOME OF THE OTHER COUNTIES WOULD BE INTERESTED IN DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

[INAUDIBLE] I CAN TELL YOU THAT WITH A LOT OF CERTAINTY.

AT LEAST THEIR BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS ARE, THE SCHOOL BOARD ITSELF, I CAN'T SAY FOR SURE.

I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEY ARE, BUT WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD BY THE COMMISSIONER ARE CONFIDENT THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD IS CERTAINLY IN FAVOR OF THIS.

LIKE I SAID, IT MIGHT BE A CHALLENGE WITH KANSAS BECAUSE OF LOGISTICS POSSIBLY.

THEN TOLD THAT BECAUSE MUCH LIKE YOU GUYS, THEY HAD REALLY GOOD PROGRAM ON ALREADY.

FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE WHY REINVENT THE WHEEL? REASON WHY YOU WOULD REINVENT THE WHEEL IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE AGING INFRASTRUCTURE.

>> FOR THEM THEY JUST HAD A BIG, ESPECIALLY AUTO MECHANICS PROGRAM.

THEY SPEND A BUNCH OF MONEY, THEY HAD TO SPEND ON RENOVATED AND IT'S MODERN.

FOR THEM, SOME OF THEIR PROGRAM AND THEY MAY NOT WANT TO, BUT WE'RE HOPING THAT WE CAN AT LEAST START THAT CONVERSATION WITH THOSE OTHER COUNTIES AS WELL, BECAUSE THE MORE COUNTIES THAT ARE INVOLVED, IT JUST MAKES IT SO MUCH EASIER TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY GOING TO BE NICE.

IT'S GOING TO BE EFFECTIVE. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN BE PROUD OF AS A COMMUNITY.

>> FROM THE PEANUT GALLERY, I JUST WANT TO SAY I GRADUATED FROM THE [INAUDIBLE] AND EVEN THEN BECAUSE WE [INAUDIBLE] FROM SEVEN HIGH-SCHOOLS.

WE INTERVIEWED FOR OUR POSITIONS THERE JUST LIKE YOU INTERVIEWED FOR THE JOB.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY STILL DO THAT OR NOT.

THE CALIBER OF THE TRAINING WE GOT.

BECAUSE PEOPLE THAT WERE TRULY INTERESTED INTERVIEWED WELL, FOR INSTANCE, YOU JUST STAYED HOME BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO BE SICK.

SINCE YOU WENT THERE SIX HOURS A DAY, ONE ABSENCE UNCERTIFIED, YOU'RE OUT, THEY RECRUIT SOMEBODY ELSE IN.

>> THAT'S A DISCUSSION THAT YOU GUYS CAN HAVE.

DO YOU REALLY WANT TO TURN AWAY STUDENTS WHO'S GOING TO LEARN A SKILL TOO? HONESTLY, YOU PROBABLY DON'T WANT TO SAY, DO YOU WANT TO BUILD IT TO A CAPACITY WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO TURN ANY OTHER STUDENTS AWAY? BUT THAT'S A CONVERSATION THAT YOU GUYS COULD HAVE CERTAINLY, EVEN AS A COMMUNITY YOU WANT TO HAVE AS WELL.

IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A HIGH CALIBER STUDENTS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THE IDEA IS YOU WANT TO IMPROVE THE WORKFORCE CERTAINLY.

>> THIS CONCERN WE HAD THERE AND SOUND LIKE IT'S STILL AN ISSUE IS WHEN YOU WENT THERE, THEY'RE TRYING TO ISOLATE YOU, ESPECIALLY THE SCHOOLS WERE FURTHER OUT.

WE WERE PARTICIPATING AND HOLD SCHOOL SPORTS AND PROGRESSIVELY IS THAT SOME OF THE STUDENTS COULD GIVE UP BECAUSE THEY ONLY HAD TO MAKE A SACRIFICE DECISION.

>> I THINK MARK, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

I APPRECIATE YOU'RE MAKING NOW.

THERE'S ALWAYS PROS AND CONS AND HOW WE COULD BETTER UTILIZE.

I'M DONE. I'VE MADE IT PUBLIC, I'M DONE AT THE END OF THIS YEAR, BUT I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR THIS NEW BOARD MEMBERS TO HEAR AND WHERE THE COUNTY GOES BUT IT'S A SHAME BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY GOOD CLASSES EVERYBODY SHOULD BENEFIT FROM IN THEIR TECH SCHOOLS.

YOU CAN'T IF YOU'RE IN THIS PROGRAM OR YOU'RE THAT PROGRAM.

THERE ARE GIVES-AND-TAKES.

I MENTIONED IT TO DELEGATE CHRIST (PHONETIC) AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVEN'T HEARD, THERE'S PROS AND CONS.

IT'S AN INTERNAL THING BUT I WOULD ALSO SAY, KEEP SPORTS AT YOUR HOME SCHOOL, AT YOUR COUNTY SCHOOL BECAUSE YOU START MIXING SPORTS IN WITH VOCATIONAL CLASSES, TECHNICAL CLASSES.

I'LL JUST SAY WATCH WHAT YOU'RE GETTING INTO BECAUSE DELAWARE HAS GOT A GREAT PROGRAM.

THEY'VE NOT USED IT BUT THEIR TECH SCHOOL TURNED INTO SOMETHING ELSE THAN A TECH SCHOOL AND THE LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE NOW HAVING TO GENERATE VOCATIONAL TRAINING BECAUSE THOSE KIDS CAN'T GET INTO THE REGIONAL TECH SCHOOL AS IT WAS ENVISIONED HOWEVER MANY YEARS AGO.

WE JUST GOT TO LEARN FROM OTHER PEOPLE'S MISTAKES.

IF YOU GO DOWN THIS ROAD AND SEE WHAT WORKS BEST FOR THE MATURE.

THESE TECHNICAL JOBS ARE GETTING MORE COMPLEX.

YOU CAN EVEN GET A FOUR-YEAR DEGREE, BUT THEN YOU STILL GOT TO GO TO A TECH SCHOOL TO GET CERTIFIED OR SIGNED OFF ON THE SKILL THAT YOU NEED TO DO SOME OF THESE JOBS.

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>> I THINK IT'S A VALUABLE OPPORTUNITY AND I THINK THAT THERE'S SO MANY OF OUR HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES WHO CAN BENEFIT FROM THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE TECHNICAL TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES IN THE SHORT TERM CAREER GOAL AS WELL AS MAYBE A YEAR OR TWO GOAL.

I THINK THAT THE SOONER WE GET STARTED ON IT THE BETTER IT WILL BE TO WORK THROUGH ALL THE IF AND THE BUTS, THE DO'S AND NOT THE DO'S.

THE SOONER IT GETS GOING I THINK THE MORE WE'LL SEE THE BENEFIT FOR OUR STUDENTS.

IF SO MANY STUDENTS WHO DON'T WANT TO GO TO COLLEGE, AND ARE NOT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF POST-GRADUATION OPPORTUNITY WHERE IT IS THEY'RE OFFERING AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL, AND THEN CONTINUE TO PUT THEM IN WORKFORCE INSTEAD OF WALKING AROUND DOING NOTHING.

>> I'M GOOD. GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU FOR COMING.

ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE GOOD OF THE BOARD OR ANY OR JUST SOMETHING OFF TOPIC THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE ON NORTH CAROLINE SUPPORTIVE EDUCATION?

>> NO, THIS IS ACTUALLY THE FIRST TIME I THINK I'VE MET WITH THE BOARD SINCE I WAS A COUNTY COMMISSIONER, SO I WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS MORE OFTEN, AND ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT OTHER ISSUES TOO THAT ARE IMPORTANT HERE BECAUSE CERTAINLY, I GUESS I'VE BEEN ON THE EDUCATION SUBCOMMITTEE, IT'S UP TO INTERPRET SILENCE, AND OBVIOUSLY YOU ALL KNOW A LOT MORE ABOUT EDUCATION THAN I DO AND I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHY I'M ON THAT SUBCOMMITTEE TO BEGIN WITH, BUT I AM.

I CERTAINLY WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT OPPORTUNITY AS BEST I CAN BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY LEGISLATORS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE THAT WOULD LOVE TO BE WHERE I AM.

SO THEY COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT FOR THEIR SCHOOLS BACK HOME.

IF WE CAN JUST KEEP THAT OPEN LINE OF COMMUNICATION, THAT'LL BE GREAT.

>> [BACKGROUND] JUST TO SAY, WHAT'S HAPPENING AT CCTC IN HERE IN CAROLINE COUNTY AND THAT INCLUDES THE CULINARY CENTER, SOME OF THE MOST EXCITING STUFF IN EDUCATION.

I'M PRIVILEGED TO WORK WITH DEREK AND BRAD PLUCHECK AND EVERYBODY INVOLVED, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. WELL, GENTLEMEN, YOU'RE FREE TO HANG OUT AND LISTEN TO THE REST OF THE CONVERSATION, YOU'RE FREE TO GO HOME AND TAKE CARE OF OTHER DUTIES AS ASSIGNED [LAUGHTER].

>> I DO HAVE TO PLAN MY DAY TOMORROW, AND I HOPE IT DOES NOT INVOLVE ANY PETS.

>> RUNNING OVER DOG.

>> I HOPE NOT FOR YOUR SAKE, DELYN.

>> IF I SEE ANY LIMPING DOGS I'M GOING TO HAVE A WORD.

>> THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU DAVE.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> WE'LL MAKE SURE WE FOLLOW UP ALSO, THANK YOU.

>> GREAT, WELL GOOD INFORMATION.

MOVING ON TO THE PRESENTATION HERE, MS. HANDLEY.

[BACKGROUND]

>> YES, WE HAVE TONIGHT WITH US.

>> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY [OVERLAPPING].

>> YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD?

>> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY TONIGHT WE HAVE WITH US COURTNEY HANDTE, WHO IS THE CTE SUPERVISOR AND PRINCIPAL OF CCTC.

IT IS A GOOD COMBINATION OF AN EVENING BECAUSE WE SEE WHAT SOME FUTURE CAN HOLD.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR ABOUT THE EXCITING THINGS THAT ARE CURRENTLY HAPPENING AT CCTC AND WITH CTE PROGRAMS. SO COURTNEY WILL BE SHARING.

>> GREAT, GOOD EVENING MR. NEWCOMB, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, EVERYONE ELSE IN THE ROOM.

I'M EXCITED TO PRESENT TO YOU ABOUT CTE AND CAROLINE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS, AND I WILL SAY I THINK OUR CTE STUDENTS ARE THE BEST, BRIGHTEST, AND HARDEST WORKING.

I'M GOING TO GO A LITTLE OFF SCRIPT, SO NO WORRIES MR. JONES, YOU DON'T WORRY ABOUT A THING.

THOSE ARE SOME PHOTOGRAPHS SPECIFICALLY FROM CCTC WHEN CHRISTOPHER CAME AND PHOTOGRAPHED WITHIN THE DIFFERENT SCHOOLS LAST SCHOOL YEAR.

THAT HIGHLIGHTED SOME OF THE PROGRAMMING THAT WE HAVE WITHIN CCTC.

OUR COSMETOLOGY, ADVANCED MANUFACTURING ACADEMY, OUR HEALTH PROFESSIONS, CULINARY CASE AS WELL AS CONSTRUCTION, CRIMINAL JUSTICE, AND AUTOMOTIVE.

THE VISION FOR CTE IS TO DEVELOP STUDENTS WHO ARE R.E.A.D.Y FOR COLLEGE, CAREER, AND THE MILITARY, AND WE HAVE R.E.A.D.Y WITH DOTS BECAUSE IT IS AN ACRONYM FOR THE CCTC CODE OF CONDUCT, WHICH IS R.E.A.D.Y AND THAT STANDS FOR RESPECTFUL, EMPLOYABLE, AWARE, DEPENDABLE, AND YOU RUN YOU.

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BUT WE USE IT GENERALLY FOR ALL OF CTE BECAUSE IT REALLY CAPTURES WHAT WE'RE ALL ABOUT.

>> WHAT WAS THE Y.

>> YOU RUN YOU.

>> GOT YOU.

>> I KNOW ALL OUR SCHOOLS HAVE LITTLE ACRONYMS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT I LIKE THAT ONE TOO.

I REALLY LIKE THAT ONE, ESPECIALLY COMING BACK AND WE HEAR IT ABOUT RESPECT TO ALL AND EMPLOYABLE.

JUST THE WAY SOME OF OUR STUDENTS TREAT OUR TEACHERS, ABOUT BEING RESPECTFUL AND EMPLOYABLE.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET INTO A JOB AND IT JUST STRUCK ME WHEN YOU READING IT BACK THERE BECAUSE I JUST KNOW THAT A LOT OF OUR CHILDREN DON'T HAVE THE BEST EXAMPLE SOMETIMES, AND YOUR WORDS COUNT AND THE WAY YOU TREAT PEOPLE, AND I THINK THAT'S ALL.

IT'S A SHAME, YOU WOULDN'T THINK THAT SCHOOLS AND CCTC IN GENERAL HAVE TO TEACH THAT, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU. HADN'T HAD IN THERE.

>> WE ARE ALL ABOUT IT. WE'RE ABOUT TO GO INTO SOME INFORMATION OVERLOAD.

I'M GOING TO TAKE YOU GUYS ALONG ON THE RIDE THAT I'VE BEEN ON FOR THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF SINCE I CAME INTO CCTC AND CTE IN GENERAL.

WE HAVE EIGHT CAREER CLUSTERS AND 16 CAREER PATHWAYS THAT WE OFFER IN CCPS AND JUST A FUN FACT, WE HAVE AN AVERAGE OF 55 PERCENT OF OUR CCPS STUDENTS GRADUATE AS A CAREER TECHNICAL EDUCATION COMPLETER, WHICH IS SOMETHING TO NOTE AND SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF, ESPECIALLY WITH US BEING SUCH A SMALL COUNTY.

JUST SOME LEARNING TARGETS, SUCCESS CRITERIA.

THE GOAL IS TO GAIN A DEEPER UNDERSTANDING OF CTE AND CCPS.

WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE CAREER CLUSTERS VERSUS THE PROGRAMS OF STUDY.

ALSO GAIN SOME INSIGHT INTO CURRENTLY ENROLLED SUBGROUPS AND SPECIAL POPULATION DATA.

UNDERSTAND CTE RECRUITMENT EFFORTS AND ENROLLMENT PROCEDURES.

LOOK AT THE ALIGNMENT BETWEEN OUR PERFORMANCE QUALITY INDICATORS, WHICH IS HOW WE ARE MEASURED BY THE STATE AND ALSO THE SCHOOL IMPROVEMENT PLANNING THAT WE DO AT CCTC.

UNDERSTANDING THE RATIONALE FOR MOVING FROM TECHNOLOGY EDUCATION TO COMPUTER SCIENCE AND LEARN MORE ABOUT THE ROLE OF CTE IN BLUEPRINT FOR MARYLAND'S FEATURE.

THE FIRST CAREER CLUSTER THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS EVENING IS THE WORK BASED LEARNING, AND WE HAVE ONE PROGRAM OF STUDY UNDER WORK BASED LEARNING AND THAT IS APPRENTICESHIP, AND JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE EXPLANATION OF HOW EACH OF THESE SLIDES ARE LAID OUT.

EACH PROGRAM OF STUDY IT WILL INDICATE NEXT TO IT WHERE IT'S LOCATED.

IS IT LOCATED AT CCTC? IS IT LOCATED AT KERNEL HIGH, NORTH CAROLINE, EASTERN HIGH SCHOOL, QUEEN ANNE'S, OFFSITE ETC.

APPRENTICESHIP IS OFFSITE WHERE STUDENTS ACTUALLY GO RIGHT INTO WORK, AND THE OTHER PIECE OF EACH OF OUR PROGRAM OF STUDY SLIDES IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT, DOES THE PROGRAM HAVE A TECHNICAL SKILL ATTAINMENT LINK TO IT AND OR A RECOGNIZED POST SECONDARY CREDENTIAL LINK TO IT? AND THERE WE'LL STATE WHAT THAT IS.

THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT, IS THERE A NON TRADITIONAL DESIGNATION? THE BEST EXAMPLES THAT PEOPLE OFTEN THINK OF WITH NONTRADITIONAL IS FEMALES IN AUTOMOTIVE TECHNOLOGY OR MALES IN COSMETOLOGY.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT IT IS FOR EACH PROGRAM, AND THEN ALONG THE BOTTOM IS OUR SUBGROUP INFORMATION.

YOU'LL SEE ON THE UPCOMING SLIDES, THERE'S COMPARISONS.

BUT ON THIS ONE WE HAVE ONE STUDENT CURRENTLY IN APPRENTICESHIP.

HE WAS SIGNED THIS YEAR, SO I REALLY DIDN'T COMPARE WITH ANY OTHER INFORMATION, BUT IT'S REALLY EXCITING TO HAVE ONE OF OUR STUDENTS FROM NORTH CAROLINE HIGH SCHOOL WORKING WITH MATURE TECHNOLOGY SERVICES, RIGHT IN DENTON WITH JUSTIN SMITH, HE WAS A GRADUATE OF NORTH CAROLINE HIGH SCHOOL, AND IT'S GOING VERY WELL FOR HIM.

WE HAVE MANY PARTNERSHIPS AND APPROVED SITES WITH APPRENTICESHIP, BUT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ONE STUDENT ENROLLED.

WITHIN APPRENTICESHIP STUDENT, THE TECHNICAL SKILL ATTAINMENT LINK TO IT IS THE 450 WORK HOURS AND THAT'S OVER THREE SEMESTERS.

IF A STUDENT COMPLETES THE PROGRAM OF STUDY, THEY'VE DONE THEIR 450 WORK HOURS, PS THEY GET PAID FOR THOSE WORK HOURS AND THEY EARN THEIR TECHNICAL SKILL ATTAINMENT FOR THAT.

>> MS. HANDTE AM I CORRECT THAT ONE OF

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THE APPROVED APPRENTICESHIP SITES IS ACTUALLY CAROLINE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOL?

>> YES, WE DO.

WE ARE AN APPROVED SITE IN VARIOUS AREAS, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT TECHNOLOGY, WE'RE LOOKING AT DUBBING AND GROUNDS, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO CCPS IS AN APPROVED SITE AS WELL.

GREAT QUESTION.

OUR NEXT CAREER CLUSTER IS CONSTRUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT.

WE HAVE COMPUTER AIDED DRAFTING AND DESIGN, CADD FOR SHORT AT CCTC, AND WE ALSO OFFER CONSTRUCTION TECHNOLOGY AT CCTC.

THE TWO RECOGNIZE POSTSECONDARY CREDENTIALS ARE AUTO DESK CERTIFICATION THAT GOES ALONG WITH THE CADD PROGRAM OF STUDY AND THE NCCER GOES ALONG WITH CONSTRUCTION TECHNOLOGY, AND THE NON TRAD DESIGNATION FOR THIS IS FEMALE.

ANY FEMALES THAT COME INTO THE PROGRAMS, WE WANT THEM, WE WELCOME THEM TO REACH THOSE NUMBERS AS WELL.

IF YOU LOOK ALONG THE BOTTOM, IT GIVES YOU THE TOTAL NUMBER OF STUDENTS IN CADD AND CONSTRUCTION.

THERE ARE 18 TOTAL STUDENTS, AND THEN YOU SEE THE PERCENTAGE OF CURRENTLY ENROLLED STUDENTS IN EACH OF THOSE SUBGROUP AREAS, AND IT'S COMPARED TO THE CCTC OVERALL PERCENTAGES.

FOR EXAMPLE, 94 PERCENT OF OUR STUDENTS ARE MALE AND AT CCTC, 48 PERCENT OF OUR STUDENTS ARE MALE STUDENTS.

SO YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS.

NEXT CLUSTER IS CONSUMER SERVICES, HOSPITALITY, AND TOURISM.

THE PROGRAMS OF STUDY WE OFFER IN CAROLINE COUNTY ARE CAREERS IN COSMETOLOGY.

IT'S LOCATED AT CCTC.

WE DO HAVE TWO CAREERS IN COSMETOLOGY CLASSES.

THE RPC ASSOCIATED WITH COSMETOLOGY IS THE STATE BOARD COSMETOLOGY EXAM, IT'S A BIG DEAL, AND THE NON-TRAD DESIGNATION IS MALES.

AT THE BOTTOM, YOU SEE WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 34 STUDENTS ENROLLED IN COSMETOLOGY CURRENTLY AND YOU CAN SEE THE BREAKDOWN OF POPULATIONS.

>> NOW, I'M JUST GOING TO ASK A GENERAL QUESTION AND JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY.

TRACKING DATA, THAT MAKES SURE EVERYTHING'S, JUST TO KNOW, WHAT I GUESS IS ONE THING, BUT WITH THESE NON-TRADITIONAL DESIGNATIONS, IF MEN AREN'T INTERESTED IN COSMETOLOGY, SIX PERCENT, HOW MUCH EFFORT IS EXPECTED OF US AS A SYSTEM, OR OF OUR STAFF TO SAY, WELL, WE NEED MORE.

HOW MUCH WORK IS THERE, OR IS IT JUST TRACKING?

>> WELL, IT IS REPORTED IN OUR PQI DATA, THAT'S OUR STATE DATA.

THEN WHEN WE DON'T MEET THE THRESHOLDS OR THE GOALS, WE LOOK INTO DEVELOPMENT PLANS.

CURRENTLY, WE HAVEN'T MET THE NON-TRADITIONAL DESIGNATION FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT INCLUDING IN OUR NEEDS ASSESSMENT DIFFERENT PLANNINGS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE ARE EXPECTED TO DO, SUCH AS RECRUITMENT, MARKETING DIFFERENT THINGS, HIGHLIGHTING THE NON-TRAD DESIGNATIONS IN THE VARIOUS PROGRAMS. I THINK IT IS TRACKED AND WE'RE ENCOURAGED TO MEET.

>> SO WE'VE GOT TO MARKET IT IF WE'RE UNDER A CERTAIN RATIO.

>> YEAH. WE MARKET IT, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ALSO WORK TOWARDS, [INAUDIBLE] WILL DESCRIBE THIS A LITTLE BETTER THAN I WILL, BUT THERE'S PROGRAM ADVISORY COMMITTEES FOR EACH ONE OF THE PATHWAYS.

EACH PATHWAY HAS LOCAL BUSINESSES THEY WORK WITH TO HELP GIVE INSIGHT INTO THAT PROGRAM AND PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT.

PART OF IT COMES INTO ALSO, ON OUR PROGRAM ADVISORY COMMITTEES, ARE WE SEARCHING OUT LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT HAVE NON-TRAD EMPLOYEES? ARE WE SEARCHING OUT? SAY, IF IT'S CONSTRUCTION, IS THERE A LOCAL CONSTRUCTION FIRM THAT'S DOING WELL WITH HIRING AND ATTAINING FEMALES? IF IT'S COSMETOLOGY, DO WE HAVE ANY OF THE MALE COSMETOLOGISTS SITTING ON THE PROGRAM ADVISORY COMMITTEE? SOMETIMES SEEING THAT REPRESENTATION AND WHO'S THERE, DOES HELP.

I KNOW THAT'S HELPED IN COSMETOLOGY.

THERE'S BEEN SOME GREAT FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE RECEIVED BY GETTING SOME MALES INVOLVED IN THAT OVER THE YEARS.

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PART OF IT COMES INTO THAT TOO, WITH SEEING FOLKS WHO ARE LIKE YOU IN THE PROGRAM WHO IS OFFERING THAT TO YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO GET SOMEBODY IN IT SOMETIMES.

SO IS THERE A BIG HAMMER FOR NOT MEETING IT? NO.

>> OKAY.

>> ARE WE EXPECTED TO KEEP WORKING TO STRIVE TO? YEAH.

>> OKAY.

>> BACK BEFORE I CAME INTO CT AND WE DID LIVE IN-PERSON EIGHTH-GRADE TOURS WITH ALL OF CCTC AND ALSO THE COMPREHENSIVE HIGH SCHOOLS, THERE WOULD BE TOUR GUIDES AND THEY WOULD DO THINGS LIKE TARGET A MALE TO BE A TOUR GUIDE THROUGH COSMETOLOGY.

THERE ARE DEFINITELY STRATEGIES THAT YOU CAN PUT IN PLACE FOR JUST THAT PEER-TO-PEER CONVERSATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

>> THEY'RE MAKING PAINT TOOL BELTS NOW AND DIFFERENT THINGS TRYING TO ATTRACT PEOPLE.

BUT AS LONG AS THERE'S NOT A BIG HAMMER, I GUESS IT'S SOMETHING WE GOT TO DO.

I TELL MY DAUGHTER I'LL HELP HER CHANGE OIL IN HER CAR, OR SHE CAN GO HAVE PAY SOMEONE INSTEAD, AND SHE DOES IT, BUT IF I TOLD HER SHE HAD TO TAKE A CAR CLASS, I DON'T THINK SHE'D REALLY WANT TO DO THAT.

>> IT'S EACH STUDENT'S PREFERENCE REALLY.

BUT WE DON'T WANT KIDS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN IT TO SHY AWAY FROM IT JUST BECAUSE THERE'S NOT THAT MANY BOYS IN COSMETOLOGY.

WE WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO PURSUE THEIR GOALS AND THEIR DREAMS REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE OTHER KIDS IN THE CLASSROOM LOOK LIKE.

>> YEAH. THANK YOU.

>> YEAH. WE HAVE OUR FOOD AND BEVERAGE MANAGEMENT-CULINARY CENTER.

THE RPC FOR THIS IS PROSTART AND THERE'S NO NON-TRAD DESIGNATION FOR FOOD AND BEVERAGE MANAGEMENT.

>> THAT'S YOUR CLOSEST RATIO.

IT LOOKS PRETTY EVEN STEVEN?

>> RIGHT. WHEN THINGS WORK OUT LIKE THAT, THERE'S A REASON WHY THERE'S NOT A NON-TRAD DESIGNATION.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY EVEN.

YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. OUR NEXT CLUSTER IS ENVIRONMENTAL, AGRICULTURAL, AND NATURAL RESOURCES.

I'M GOING TO JUST HAND THIS OVER TO MR. JONES.

[LAUGHTER]

>> ALL RIGHT. [INAUDIBLE] MALE AND FEMALE STUDENTS.

[LAUGHTER]

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> YEAH. [OVERLAPPING] WE HAVE HIM BACK.

>> HERE'S GOING TO BE ON THE PATH.

>> YOU MAKE SURE WELLS.

>> LISTEN, MR. JONES.

[OVERLAPPING] WE'RE MEETING ON WEDNESDAY AT 6:30 AT BOLLOCKS.

>> YEAH, I THINK WE JUST NOMINATED YOU FOR [OVERLAPPING] THE PROGRAM ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

>> FOR THE PROGRAM ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

>> WHAT TIME IS? [LAUGHTER]

>> PROBABLY 6:30.

>> THIS WEDNESDAY?

>> YES.

>> TOMORROW?

>> TOMORROW.

>> NO PRESSURE.

>> TOMORROW AT 6:30 IN THE BOLLOCKS? [LAUGHTER].

>> YES.

>> BULLOCKS. [LAUGHTER]

>> AM? [LAUGHTER]

>> THAT WOULD BE A NO.

>> PM.

>> I SUPPOSE YOU GOT A CHRISTMAS CONCERT AT 6:30 TOMORROW.

>> WE CAN GET YOU SEMESTER 2.

>> I CAN DROP EVERYBODY ELSE OFFERS FOR YOU.

[LAUGHTER]

>> YES, IT'S NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT. [LAUGHTER]

>> YOUR WIFE AND DAUGHTERS MIGHT NOT BE HAPPY WITH ME ABOUT THAT.

GO TO THE CHRISTMAS CONCERT, BUT WE'LL GET YOU AT SEMESTER 2.

>> WELL, IT'S NOT ACTUALLY THEIR CHRISTMAS CONCERT.

>> YEAH.

>> THEY DIDN'T WANT TO GO.

>> GOT YOU. [LAUGHTER]

>> BUT THAT'S THE LEARNING CURVE IF YOU'RE LEARNING TOO THERE, BECAUSE 6.30 AT THE COFFEE SHOP IS WHERE ALL THE AGRICULTURAL SCIENCES DECISIONS GET MADE, RIGHT MARK?

>> THAT'S WHY I SAID 6.30 AM. [LAUGHTER]

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> YEAH. [LAUGHTER]

>> [OVERLAPPING] THAT'S VERY TRUE.

>> BUT WHAT I CAN SAY IS THE NON-TRADITIONAL, I'M SURE YOU'RE NON-TRADITIONAL IN THIS, DOES IT GO BY RACE AND BY MALE OR FEMALE [OVERLAPPING] OR NONE?

>> WELL, THE NON-TRADITIONAL DESIGNATION IS MALE AND FEMALE EXCLUSIVELY.

>> IN AGRICULTURE IN GENERAL WE DON'T SEE AS MANY FEMALES I WOULD SAY, AT LEAST IN FARMING ASPECT OF IT. BUT THAT'S NOT A REASON.

ALL THIS STUFF, I HAVE THREE GIRLS, IT'S NOT THAT THEY CAN'T BE SUCCESSFUL AND IT'S NOT THE ISSUE.

ALL THIS STUFF IS JUST LIKE THE THING WITH A COSMETOLOGIST.

THEY HAVE A LOT OF BARBERS, IS THERE A REASON SOMEONE SHOULD FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE BEING IN ONE OF

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THESE CLASSES BECAUSE THEY DON'T FEEL THEY ARE THE SAME AS [OVERLAPPING] EVERYONE ELSE.

>> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY AND WE'RE PRETTY EVEN WITH MALES AND FEMALES IN OUR CASE PROGRAM AND THE CCPS.

>> ACTUALLY WORKING.

>> I THINK WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS FOR SOME OF THIS IS MORE OF THESE NON-TRADITIONAL NOW OR NON-TRADITIONAL IN THE PAST, BUT WHAT THE FUTURE DOES HOLD, WHAT YOU SEE IS A LOT OF THESE NON-TRADITIONAL AREAS.

THERE'S A LOT MORE OF THAT NOW THAN WHAT WE WOULD'VE SEEN 20 YEARS AGO, ESPECIALLY IN 30 YEARS AGO.

>> ESPECIALLY NOW THAT EVERYBODY IS LEGALIZING CANNABIS.

[LAUGHTER]

>> WE DON'T REALLY FOCUS ON THAT AT CCTC [LAUGHTER] BUT WE DO FOCUS ON PLANTS AND ANIMALS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

THERE IS NOT A TECHNICAL SKILL ASSESSMENT OR A RECOGNIZED POST-SECONDARY CREDENTIAL LINKED WITH OUR CASE PROGRAM, BUT THERE IS AN END OF COURSE ASSESSMENT THROUGH THE CASE PLATFORM THAT STUDENTS TAKE TOWARDS THE END OF THE SEMESTER AND IT'S GIVEN AS THEIR FINAL AND THERE'S NO NON-TRAD DESIGNATION.

NEXT UP, WE HAVE HEALTH AND BIOSCIENCES.

WE'LL START WITH OUR PLTW BIOMEDICAL SCIENCES AND THEY'RE AT BOTH COLONEL HIGH AS WELL AS NORTH CAROLINE HIGH SCHOOL.

THE TSA FOR THAT IS THE PLTW AND OF COURSE ASSESSMENTS, THERE IS NOT A RECOGNIZED POST-SECONDARY CREDENTIAL AND THERE IS NOT A NON-TRAD DESIGNATION.

WHEN YOU SEE OUR COMPREHENSIVE HIGH SCHOOLS LISTED UCC FOR COLONEL, SO THERE ARE 39 STUDENTS CURRENTLY ENROLLED IN THE BIOMEDICAL SCIENCES.

THERE ARE 32 STUDENTS CURRENTLY ENROLLED AT NORTH CAROLINE HIGH SCHOOL.

THEN YOU CAN SEE THE BREAKDOWN.

FOR THIS, IT'S, LET'S SAY COLONEL IS 21 PERCENT MALE IN THE BIOMEDICAL SCIENCES AND WE HAVE 50 PERCENT MALES IN CAROLINE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

THAT'S HOW THESE ARE BROKEN UP.

>> QUESTION.

>> YES.

>> PLTW STANDS FOR?

>> PROJECT LEAD THE WAY.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THERE ARE A COMPANY AND YOU'LL SEE WE HAVE QUITE A FEW PROGRAMS OF STUDY THAT WE WORK WITH THEM AND DO CURRICULUM WITH AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

GREAT QUESTION. ALSO UNDER HEALTH AND BIOSCIENCES, WE HAVE ACADEMY OF HEALTH PROFESSIONS, WHICH IS AT CCTC.

THE RECOGNIZED POST-SECONDARY CREDENTIALS THAT STUDENTS CAN LEAVE WITH THEIR CERTIFIED NURSING ASSISTANT.

IN NON-COVID YEARS, THERE'S ALSO THE GNA OR THE GERIATRIC NURSING CREDENTIAL THAT STUDENTS CAN EARN, BUT WE LOOK FROM THE STATE'S PERSPECTIVE STUDENTS WHO ARE IN THE CERTIFIED NURSING ASSISTANT ARE THE ONES WHO MEET THE RPC DESIGNATION.

WE HAVEN'T DONE THE GNA SINCE I'VE BEEN THERE JUST BECAUSE COVID RESTRICTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

OUR STUDENTS ARE NOT ABLE TO GET INTO THE HEALTH CARE FACILITIES LIKE THEY DID PRIOR TO DO THEIR CLINICAL ROTATIONS.

WE HAVE SIMULATION STUDENTS HAVE BEEN DOING, AND THEY ALSO DO SKILLS LABS IN THE CLASSROOM.

OBVIOUSLY, MASKED UP AND FOLLOWING PROTOCOL, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

THEY'RE MAINLY WORKING ON EACH OTHER AND THERE'S ALSO A SHADOW HEALTH SIMULATOR THAT THEY DO ONLINE.

IT'S LIKE THERE'S THE PATIENT, PATIENT IS SAYING THIS IS WHAT'S WRONG WITH ME.

THEN THEY ASK THEM QUESTIONS AND IT TRACKS, HOW THEY'RE DOING WITH THAT SKILLS PORTION. BUT IT'S ONLINE.

IT'S VERY DIFFERENT FROM BEING IN PERSON.

MALE, IS THE NON-TRAD DESIGNATION FOR ACADEMY OF HEALTH PROFESSIONS.

WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 22 STUDENTS CURRENTLY ENROLLED IN OUR PROGRAM.

YOU CAN SEE THE BREAKDOWN THERE.

NEXT, WE HAVE HUMAN RESOURCE SERVICES.

STARTING WITH TEACHER ACADEMY OF MARYLAND OR TAM AND THAT IS AT BOTH COLONEL HIGH AND NORTH CAROLINE HIGH SCHOOL.

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THE RECOGNIZED POST-SECONDARY CREDENTIAL STUDENTS CAN EARN IS TAKING THE PARAPRO ASSESSMENT.

THEY TAKE THAT WHEN THEY ARE DONE WITH THEIR INTERNSHIP CLASSES.

THE NON-TRAD DESIGNATION FOR TAM IS MALE.

WE HAVE 10 STUDENTS ENROLLED IN TAM CURRENTLY AT COLONEL AND NINE IN NORTH CAROLINE.

>> PASSING PARAPRO, THEY ACTUALLY ARE CERTIFIED?

>> THEY'RE CERTIFIED PARAPRO, SO THEY COULD COME TO US AND WORK AS INSTRUCTIONAL ASSISTANTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

>> NICE. IT'S GOOD TO SEE TOO WE HAVE A DECENT PERCENTAGE IT LOOKS LIKE OF MINORITY REPRESENTATION THERE FOR STUDENTS. THAT'S GOOD TO SEE.

>> YEAH.

ALSO EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION AND THAT IS EXCLUSIVELY AT NORTH CAROLINE HIGH SCHOOL RIGHT NOW, BUT STUDENTS FROM COLONEL WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN OUR ECE, THEY RIDE THE BUS TO NORTH CAROLINE AND THEY'RE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THOSE PROGRAMS AND CLASSES.

EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION IS NOT ON THE CAROLINE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOL LIST A, WHICH IS THE LIST OF PROGRAMS OF STUDY THAT IS APPROVED BY THE STATE.

WHEN I DIDN'T SEE IT ON THERE, STARTED ASKING QUESTIONS AND THAT KIND OF THING.

WE'VE HAD SOME MEETINGS AND TALKED ABOUT WHERE DO WE GO IN THE FUTURE SINCE EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION IS NOT CURRENTLY ON OUR APPROVED PROGRAMS. HOWEVER, STUDENTS HAVE BEEN COMPLETING THE PROGRAM, TAKING THE ASSESSMENTS, DOING THE CLASSES, ETC.

AFTER A FEW MEETINGS, TALKING WITH TEACHERS, AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR ECE PROGRAM, FOLDING INTO OUR TEACHER ACADEMY PROGRAM FOR THE '22-'23 SCHOOL YEAR.

WE WILL STILL OFFER ELECTIVES THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION.

THOSE ELECTIVES WILL BE PRIORITIZED TO TAM STUDENTS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN TAKING THEM.

WHAT WE'RE LEARNING MORE ABOUT IS THE CVA, WHICH IS THE CHILD DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATE CREDENTIAL.

THAT REQUIREMENT IS 480 INTERNSHIP HOURS IN PERSON WITH KIDS.

JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE PERSPECTIVE FOR OUR TAM PROGRAM OF STUDY, IT IS A 90-HOUR PROGRAM REQUIREMENT AND THE CDA REQUIREMENT IS 480 HOURS.

IT IS A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE AND IT WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE TO NUMBER OF CLASSES BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE TO TAKE MULTIPLE INTERNSHIP CLASSES.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S OFF THE TABLE, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR NEXT SCHOOL YEAR.

LIKE I SAID, STUDENTS WHO ARE CURRENTLY ENROLLED IN EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION WILL FOLD INTO OUR TEACHER ACADEMY STUDENTS AND WILL OFFER THOSE ELECTIVES IF THEY HAVE INTERESTS IN SPECIFIC EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION. [NOISE] NEXT UP WE HAVE OUR FIREFIGHTER AND EMERGENCY MEDICAL RESPONDER OR MFRI.

THIS IS HELD AT THE UPPER EASTERN SHORE REGIONAL TRAINING CENTER OF MARYLAND FIRE AND RESCUE INSTITUTE.

IN QUEEN ANNE'S COUNTY, WE CURRENTLY HAVE ONE STUDENT ENROLLED IN THAT PROGRAM.

THE RECOGNIZED POST-SECONDARY CREDENTIAL ARE WRITTEN IN PRACTICAL CERTIFICATIONS BY MARYLAND INSTITUTES FOR EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES SYSTEM AND THERE'S NO NON TRAD DESIGNATION FOR THIS.

>> FOR THE FIRE AND RESCUE PROGRAM OUR STUDENTS TRANSPORT THEMSELVES.

TO IT NUMBERS IN URBAN HIGH ENOUGH TO FALL IN LINE WITH US USING TRANSPORTATION TO GET THEIR STUDENTS TO ENROLL AND I BELIEVE IT'S STILL THE CASE.

THEY HAVE TO BE CONNECTED WITH A LOCAL FIRE COMPANY.

STUDENTS BEING ACTIVE IN THEIR LOCAL FIRE COMPANY AS CADETS, SOME START AS EARLY AS 14, I BELIEVE.

THEY START DOING SOME JUNIOR PROGRAMMING AND THEN BY 16 THEY DO.

THAT REALLY HELPS FEED AND DRIVE THIS NUMBER UP HIGHER.

PRE-COVID, WE HAD MET MYSELF, MR. COLCHUCK, MET AND HAD LONG CONVERSATION WITH THE FIRE CHIEFS IN CAROLINE COUNTY AS WELL AS WITH CAROLINE EMS, WHEN ANNA SIERRA WAS STILL DIRECTOR OF EMS, LOOKING AT WAYS TO TRY TO INCREASE CAPACITY IN THIS PROGRAM BECAUSE IT REALLY IS A GREAT FACILITY IN QUEEN ANNE'S COUNTY.

IT'S A MFRI FACILITY.

BACK IN MY YOUNGER YEARS, IT'S WHAT WE HAD TO GO TO COLLEGE PARK TO GO DO ON

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A SATURDAY MORNING AND YOU ONLY GOT THE CLASS BY SITTING IN 1,000 HOURS OF TRAINING SOMEWHERE ELSE THAT YOU DID AT NIGHTS OVER THE COURSE OF ALMOST A YEAR.

KIDS HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO GRAB THIS PROGRAM WHILE IN SCHOOL.

FIREFIGHTER WON EMT.

IT HAS BEEN OPERATIONS, GOOD PROGRAMMING FOR THEM.

WHETHER THE VOLUNTEER OR THE PAID SIDE, IT'S JUST BOOSTING THE NUMBERS AT THE LOCAL FIRE DEPARTMENT LEVELS HELPS BOOST THE NUMBERS HERE AND INVOLVEMENT.

WE TALKED ABOUT SOME WAYS TO INCREASE IT, BUT COVID SMACKED THOSE PLANS FOR A LOT OF THINGS.

BUT CONTINUE TO LOOK AT WAYS TO TRY TO INCREASE THE CAPACITY FOR THIS.

>> DOES THIS ONE SEEM LIKE SSF?

>> YEAH.

>> YEAH.

>> WHAT WAS THE NUMERICAL NUMBER FROM CAROLINE COUNTY PRE-COVID? WAS ONE NORMAL? THREE? FIVE?

>> ONE'S A LITTLE SMALL BUT USUALLY, THREE, FOUR.

WE'VE HAD ONE YEAR, I BELIEVE IT WAS LIKE SIX OR SEVEN OR SO.

WE HAD SOME, I WON'T SAY CONFLICT, BECAUSE THAT ASSUMES THAT WE WERE ARGUMENTATIVE.

THERE WERE SOME COMPETING SCHEDULES AT ONE POINT WHEN OUR VOLUNTEER COMPANIES OFFER THE COURSES AND THEY OFFER THEM IN THEIR FIRE COMPANIES AT NIGHT AND WE'RE TRYING TO OFFER A DAY PROGRAM.

IF YOU GIVE KIDS MULTIPLE OPTIONS, THEY'LL SPLIT THEMSELVES UP OVER THE OPTIONS AND IF YOU WANT TO INCREASE ONE OR THE OTHER, WE GET INSIDE WHICH ONE WE'RE GOING TO DO AND THAT'S THE CONVERSATION WE HAD HAD WITH THE CHIEF'S GROUP BECAUSE THEY WERE WONDERING HOW DO WE GET THESE PROGRAMS UP AND HOW CAN WE GET TO A PLACE OF BEING ABLE TO FORCE KIDS? I WAS IN A DIFFERENT POSITION AT THE TIME, BUT IT WAS IF WE ONLY HAVE THREE KIDS, I CAN TELL YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO BUSTLE.

IF THERE'S MORE KIDS OUT THERE AND YOU GUYS KNOW THERE'S MORE KIDS OUT THERE.

IF YOU'RE NOT OFFERING THE PROGRAMS AT THE LOCAL COMPANIES, OR IF YOU'RE OFFERING THEM, BUT ONLY FOR PEOPLE OVER SAY, OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL, THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN THAT DRIVES THIS NUMBER UP SOME BUT WHEN YOU OFFER TWO OPTIONS THAT YOU HURT YOURSELF.

>> WITH RECOVERING AFTER COVID AND DIDN'T STOP AND JUST PASS WHERE WE, I THINK IN THE BUDGET WE'RE SEEING THE OPTIONS OF VANS, NON SCHOOL BUS TRANSPORTATION?

>> YES. WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THE REGULATIONS FROM THE STATE.

MR. MANGO PARTICIPATED IN A MEETING, IS THE GROUP INSURANCE BOARD MEETING THIS WEEK AND ONE OF THE DISCUSSION ITEMS THERE WAS FROM THE INSURANCE POOL SIDE IS DON'T GO BUYING VANS TIL WE GET THE REGULATIONS FOR WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE, BUT THEY GOT INTO DETAIL OF CONVERSATION, OF WILL THEY HAVE TO BE A CERTAIN COLOR? WILL THEY HAVE TO BE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF LIGHTING ON THE VANS AS OPPOSED TO NORMAL? THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE UNTIL THE MSDE GIVES US THOSE REGULATIONS OR WHOEVER THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO COME FROM, MBA MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW, BUT UNTIL THOSE REGULATIONS COME, THAT'S THE NEXT STEP WE'RE WAITING ON AND THEN AS THE BOARD IS SITTING IN THE BUDGET AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE SITTING THERE FOR US.

WE EXPECTED TO BE THERE ON THE BUDGET WHEN IT GETS FINALIZED AND MY BUDGET GETS PRESENTED TO YOU IN FEBRUARY AND BECOME YOURS.

IT'S STILL GOING TO BE THERE AS IN LINE BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S A GOOD FUTURE PIECE FOR US FOR REDUCING OTHER HALTS.

WE JUST NEED ON REGULATIONS TO GET DRAFTED SO THEN WE CAN KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO BUY.

BUT YES, THE OPTION'S STILL THERE.

LEGISLATION WAS APPROVED.

NOW THAT YOU'VE GOT TO CATCH UP WITH THE LEGISLATION.

>> THANK YOU.

>> YES.

>> THE OTHER POINT TO MENTION HERE WITH THE NUMBERS IS STUDENTS TAKE PRETTY RIGOROUS ASSESSMENTS AND IT COMES TO A POINT IF THERE ARE CERTAIN ASSESSMENTS, IF THEY DO NOT PASS, THEY CANNOT MOVE FORWARD IN THE PROGRAM.

IT'S JUST IT'S THAT CUT AND DRY.

WE STARTED THIS PARTICULAR SCHOOL YEAR WITH THREE TOTAL STUDENTS AND NOW THERE'S ONE BUT THAT'S JUST ANOTHER POINT.

NEXT UP WE HAVE OUR HOMELAND SECURITY CRIMINAL JUSTICE PROGRAM, WHICH IS AT CCTC.

THERE IS NOT A TECHNICAL SKILL ASSESSMENT OR CREDENTIAL ASSOCIATED WITH THIS, BUT STUDENTS DO THE AMERICAN RED CROSS FIRST AID AND CPR CERTIFICATION, AS WELL AS THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY CERTIFICATIONS WITHIN THIS PROGRAM.

THE NON TRAD DESIGNATION IS FEMALE AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE ARE KILLING IT.

[BACKGROUND] WE HAVE A LOT OF FEMALE STUDENTS IN THE PROGRAM AND THAT'S EXCITING.

IT HELPS OUR OVERALL NON-TRADITIONAL NUMBERS AS A COUNTY, SO WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE FEMALE REPRESENTATIVES ON OUR PACK AS DR. SIMONS WAS TALKING ABOUT AND INVITING FEMALE GUEST SPEAKERS INTO THE PROGRAMS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT SO IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM.

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STUFF WE HAVE MILITARY SERVICE, WE DO NJROTC HERE AND WE ARE COLLABORATORS WITH EASTON HIGH SCHOOL.

OUR STUDENTS GET ON THE BUS AT THEIR HIGH SCHOOLS OR AT LOCKERMAN MIDDLE SCHOOL AND THEY RIDE OFF US TO EASTON HIGH SCHOOL FOR FIRST PERIOD AND THEN THEY COME BACK FOR SECOND PERIOD AND BEYOND SO THEY'RE THERE FOR ONE PERIOD AND THERE IS NO POST-SECONDARY CREDENTIAL ASSOCIATED WITH IT, BUT THERE IS THE ASVAB, WHICH EVERYONE IS PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH AND THERE'S NO NON TRAD DESIGNATION.

WE HAVE 23 TOTAL STUDENTS ENROLLED FROM CAROLINE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS, SO I THINK IT'S DEFINITELY A POSITIVE COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE TWO HIGH SCHOOLS.

>> IS THERE DOCUMENTS, AND WHAT GRADE DOES THIS HAVE?

>> STUDENTS BOARD THE BUS AT LOCKERMAN SO THEY CAN START AS EARLY AS 9TH GRADE, BUT ALL THOSE BUSES COME TOGETHER AT LOCKERMAN AND THEN THERE'S AN NJROTC BUS WHICH GOES STRAIGHT TO, YEAH.

>> MILITARY THINKING.

[LAUGHTER]

>> IT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL.

[LAUGHTER] ALSO, NEXT UP WE HAVE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND WITH THIS WE HAVE PLTW COMPUTER SCIENCE AT BOTH CAROLINE HIGH AS WELL AS NORTH CAROLINE HIGH SCHOOL.

THERE'S NO POST-SECONDARY CREDENTIAL, BUT STUDENTS DO TAKE THE AP ASSESSMENTS IN BOTH COMPUTER SCIENCE A, AS WELL AS COMPUTER SCIENCE PRINCIPLES.

THE NON TRAD DESIGNATION HERE IS FEMALE.

>> WE BROKE UP FOR IN ABOVE HIGH SCHOOLS AND I KNOW WE GOT A LETTER LAST WEEK AND THERE'S BEEN SOME CONVERSATION ON HOW THESE CLASSES ARE IMPACTING THE TECH ED DECISION.

I REMEMBER A CONVERSATION OR AN ANNOUNCEMENT, SOMETHING A YEAR OR TWO AGO, BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT EXACTLY IT WAS.

IF YOU COULD REFRESH MY MEMORY ON THAT.

>> MS. ANDY HAS A SLIDE IN THE SLIDE DECK TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

MR. [INAUDIBLE] IF YOU WANT, WE CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTION NOW OR IF YOU WANT WE CAN- [OVERLAPPING].

>> NO, IF IT'S IN THE SLIDE DECK LET'S JUST WAIT.

BUT I JUST KNOW THESE ARE THE CLASSES THAT ARE [OVERLAPPING] INTERTWINED.

>> THIS IS THE PROGRAM.

>> YES.

>> YES. THIS IS A PROGRAM OF STUDY.

STUDENTS, IF THEY COMPLETE THE FULL PROGRAM OF STUDY, THEY TAKE MULTIPLE COMPUTER SCIENCE CLASSES.

FOR THE COMPUTER SCIENCE VERSUS TECH ED DISCUSSION, STUDENTS WOULD JUST NEED TO TAKE THE COMPUTER SCIENCE ESSENTIALS COURSE AS ONE OF THE OPTIONS.

OR THERE ARE ALSO ENGINEERING COURSES THAT THEY COULD TAKE THAT BASICALLY, THAT MEETS THE REQUIREMENT IN PLACE OF TECH ED.

BUT THERE IS MORE DETAIL COMING, BUT YES, THEY ARE INTERTWINED.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> THIS CONVERSATION STARTED IN 2019 AND THEN THE DECISION WAS MADE LAST DECEMBER.

I BELIEVE IT WAS LAST DECEMBER TO MOVE THAT DIRECTION AS A STATE WAS LOOKING TO CHANGE GRADUATION REQUIREMENTS AS IT RELATES TO TECH ED AND ELEVATE COMPUTER SCIENCE AND ENGINEERING AS OPTIONS FOR STUDENTS TO TAKE.

THEY ALSO DID SOME REALIGNMENT WHICH MS. ANDY WILL GET INTO ABOUT STANDARDS WITH TECH ED FOR WHAT [NOISE] WE HAVE BEEN TEACHING AND WHERE THAT FALLS, WHICH LED TO THAT DECISION AS WELL.

>> NEXT WE HAVE OUR MANUFACTURING, ENGINEERING TECHNOLOGY.

WE'LL START WITH OUR ADVANCED MANUFACTURING PROFESSIONALS PROGRAM OF STUDY, WHICH IS HELD AT CCTC.

IS ANYONE COMING THIS WEEK? ALL RIGHT.

I'LL SEE YOU THERE. THEY'RE DOING PRESENTATIONS WITH THEIR MAIN PROJECT FOR THE SEMESTER, AS WELL AS HOLDING THEIR PACK MEETING AT THAT TIME.

THE RECOGNIZED POST-SECONDARY CREDENTIAL HERE IS THE MANUFACTURING SKILL STANDARDS COUNCIL CERTIFICATION AND FEMALE IS THE NON-TRADITIONAL DESIGNATION.

WE ALSO HAVE PLTW ENGINEERING HOUSED AT THE COMPREHENSIVE HIGH SCHOOLS.

THERE IS NO RPC, BUT STUDENTS DO TAKE THE END-OF-COURSE ASSESSMENTS AS THEIR TECHNICAL SKILL ATTAINMENT AND THE NON-TRAD DESIGNATION HERE IS FEMALE.

I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT HERE THAT DR. SIMONS MENTIONED

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THE PAC MEETINGS AND INVOLVING FEMALES WITHIN THOSE PAC MEETINGS WITH THAT NON-TRAD DESIGNATION.

I KNOW MR. WEBSTER AS WELL AS MR. DAVIS WORK REALLY HARD TO INCLUDE PAST FEMALE STUDENTS AND BUILD THEM AS MENTORS FOR POTENTIAL FUTURE FEMALE STUDENTS IN ENGINEERING.

LAST BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST IS TRANSPORTATION TECHNOLOGIES.

HERE WE HAVE OUR AUTOMOTIVE TECHNICIAN PROGRAM OF STUDY AT CCTC.

WE DO HAVE TWO FULL CLASSES OF AUTOMOTIVE TECHNICIANS AT CCTC.

THE CERTIFICATION STUDENTS EARN IS THE ENTRY-LEVEL CERTIFICATION FOR ASE AND THE NON-TRAD DESIGNATION IS FEMALE.

ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR ON THE PROGRAMS OF STUDY?

>> NOT ON THE PROGRAMS OF STUDY.

YOU SAID YOU WERE COMING NEXT WEEK?

>> ON THURSDAY WE HAVE A MEETING AT CCTC AT 10:00 WHERE OUR STUDENTS WILL BE PRESENTING THEIR AMP PROJECT.

>> THAT'S THE 16TH?

>> YES.

>> OKAY. [OVERLAPPING] WHEN YOU SAID NEXT WEEK YOU PROVED ME WRONG.

>> DID I SAY NEXT WEEK?

>> THAT'S OKAY.

>> THURSDAY.

>> I'M DOWN.

>> SAME DAY AS BULLOCKS.

>> BULLOCKS IS TOMORROW YOU SAID. [BACKGROUND]

>> YOU'RE RIGHT. [BACKGROUND] LISTEN.

FORGET ABOUT IT. [BACKGROUND] I'M DONE.

>> IF YOU MAKE BULLOCKS ON ONE DAY [OVERLAPPING]. [INAUDIBLE]

>> THURSDAY. [LAUGHTER].

>> BULLOCKS ON WEDNESDAY.

>> THURSDAY.

>> YOU GOT THIS. THANK YOU, DR. SIMONS.

BULLOCK'S TOMORROW NIGHT, AND THAT'S AT 06:30 PM.

>> PER CASE?

>> YES.

>> HOW LONG WILL THAT LAST?

>> APPROXIMATELY ONE HOUR.

>> APPROXIMATELY AN HOUR.

[LAUGHTER].

>> DECEMBER 16TH AS AT 10:00 AM AT CCTC OUR AMP PRESENTATIONS.

>> SHE WAS GOING TO HAVE YOU SITTING THERE ON CHRISTMAS EVENING. [LAUGHTER].

>> OH MY GOD IT'S HAPPENING.

>> SHE WAS GOING TO BE LIKE YOU DID IT TO ME AGAIN.

[LAUGHTER] WHAT IS GOING ON THERE?

>> WE WORK REALLY HARD AT CCTC THERE'S NO VACATION. ALL RIGHT.

RECRUITING.

PRE-COVID WE DID LIVE AND IN-PERSON EIGHTH GRADE TOURS WHERE STUDENTS CAME TO SEE CCTC AS WELL AS THE COMPREHENSIVE HIGH SCHOOLS TO TOUR THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS OF STUDY, THAT HAS BEEN ADJUSTED A LITTLE BIT DURING COVID.

LAST YEAR WE DID ONLINE PRESENTATIONS FOR STUDENTS AS FAR AS GUIDANCE GOING INTO CLASSES, SHOWING VIDEOS, DOING DISCUSSIONS RIGHT WITHIN THE CLASSROOMS OR VIRTUALLY.

WE ALSO DID INFORMATION NIGHTS FOR THE COMMUNITY, FOR PARENTS, FOR STUDENTS, AND THAT WAS ALL VIA ZOOM.

THIS YEAR, WE'VE SWITCHED IT UP A LITTLE BIT MORE AND WE HAVE BOTH MR. PLUCHEK AND MR. COOK.

MR. PLUCHEK IS THE SCHOOL COUNSELOR FOR CCTC AND MR. COOK IS THE CTE TEACHER SPECIALIST AND APPRENTICESHIP COORDINATOR FOR CCPS.

THE TWO OF THEM HAVE BEEN COMING TOGETHER, GOING TO THE SCHOOLS AND GIVING PRESENTATIONS ABOUT ALL OF THE CTE OPTIONS IN CAROLINE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

THEY'D BEEN TAKING DIFFERENT THINGS FROM EACH PROGRAM AND JUST GIVEN THEM THE LOWDOWN AND MORE INFORMATION.

WE ALSO SHARED THE CTE VIDEOS AT ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOL AS WELL AS INFORMATION NIGHTS.

WE LOOK AT PICTURES AND PUBLICATIONS TO TRY TO HIGHLIGHT MINORITY AND NON-TRADITIONAL PARTICIPATION IN PROGRAMS. OUR WEBSITE, WHICH I DON'T HAVE LISTED HERE, BUT IT IS CTE CAROLINE, YOU CAN DEFINITELY CHECK THAT OUT.

THERE'S A HIGHLIGHT OF OTHER PROGRAMS THERE.

WE HAVE STRONG SOCIAL MEDIA PRESENCE AND ALSO JUST WORD OF MOUTH.

ENROLLMENTS. IF YOU'RE WONDERING, HOW DOES A STUDENT GET INTO CCTC OR HOW DO THEY START THAT PATH? BASICALLY, PROGRAMS OF STUDY ARE SELECTED IN EIGHTH GRADE FOR THE TRANSITION TO HIGH SCHOOL.

WHEN SCHOOL COUNSELORS MEET WITH STUDENTS TO MAKE THEIR HIGH SCHOOL SCHEDULES, THEY NEED TO PICK WHAT THEIR PROGRAM OF STUDY WILL BE.

ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS OF STUDY IN CAROLINE COUNTY RCTE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF LIBERAL ARTS.

ALONG THE WAY, STUDENTS MAY CHANGE THEIR CAREER PATHWAY IN HIGH SCHOOL IF THEIR SCHEDULE ALLOWS.

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IF THEY ARE INTERESTED IN SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THEY ORIGINALLY THOUGHT, IF THEY'RE NOT TOO FAR IN CREDIT-WISE, THEY ARE ABLE TO MAKE THE CHANGE.

>> HOW DIFFICULT IS IT TO MAKE A CHANGE?

>> IT'S A MEETING WITH YOUR SCHOOL COUNSELOR WHO WOULD THEN HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE STUDENT AND THE PARENT AND DEPENDING, LIKE I SAID, ON WHERE THEY ARE WITH THEIR CREDITS AS WELL AS WHERE THE PROGRAM IS WITH ENROLLMENT, IF IT'S A PROGRAM THAT IS ALL THE TIME FILLED, IT COULD BE MORE DIFFICULT THAN A PROGRAM THAT MAY HAVE A COUPLE OF SPOTS.

ALL OF THOSE GO INTO IT.

IT'S A DROP-DOWN IN POWER SCHOOL.

IT'S JUST THE MEETING WITH THE COUNSELOR AND THE PARENTS WOULD BE HARDER[OVERLAPPING].

>> IT WOULD BE HARDER TO GET IN.

>> RIGHT.

>> [INAUDIBLE] WILL BE EASIER.

>> YES, EXACTLY.

DEPENDING ON WHERE THE STUDENT IS IN THEIR HIGH SCHOOL JOURNEY.

IF THEY'RE A NINTH GRADER OR A TENTH GRADER, EARLY ON IT CAN BE AN EASY SWITCH.

WE DO HAVE PROGRAMS THAT JUST GET FILLED EVERY TIME AND SO WE HAVE AN OVER-ENROLLMENT PROCEDURE.

WE'RE JUST WANT TO GO OVER THE STEPS TO THIS.

WE LOOK AT ELIGIBILITY UNDER THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA FOR PROGRAMS THAT ARE OVER-ENROLLED.

MORE STUDENTS WANT TO GET INTO THAT PROGRAM THAN THERE ARE SEATS IN THE PROGRAM.

STUDENTS MUST HAVE A GPA OF 2.0 OR BETTER, AND THEY MUST HAVE SATISFACTORY ATTENDANCE FOR THE PREVIOUS SCHOOL YEAR, WHICH IS CONSIDERED NO MORE THAN 10 UNEXCUSED ABSENCES.

THEN BASED OFF OF THAT INFORMATION, STUDENTS ARE RANK-ORDERED IN TERMS OF THEIR GPA AND THEIR ATTENDANCE.

PREFERENCE IS GIVEN TO ANY NON-TRAD STUDENT WHO MEETS THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA.

IF THEY HAVE THE SATISFACTORY ATTENDANCE AND THE 2.0 OR BETTER AND THEY ARE A NON-TRAD, THEY BUMP UP THE LIST.

STUDENTS WHO DO NOT GET IN BASED OFF OF THE RANKING, THEY ARE PLACED ON A WAITING LIST AND AS SEATS OPEN UP, BASED ON RANK ORDER, STUDENTS ARE ABLE TO GET A SEAT IN A PROGRAM OF STUDY.

THESE ARE JUST SOME MORE FUN FACTS ABOUT CTE, DR. [INAUDIBLE] TALKED ABOUT THE PAC MEETINGS, THESE HAPPEN TWICE A YEAR.

THEY INVOLVE COMMUNITY AND INDUSTRY PARTNERS, EDUCATORS, STUDENTS BOTH PAST AND PRESENT, POTENTIALLY PARENTS.

AND THE PURPOSE IS REALLY TO ALIGN THE INSTRUCTION WITH THE NEEDS OF THE INDUSTRY AND THE COMMUNITY.

CCPS OFFERS CAREER TECHNICAL SKILLS ORGANIZATIONS WHICH FALL UNDER OUR PERKINS FUNDING.

STUDENTS ARE ABLE TO EXPAND THEIR PROGRAM OF STUDY WITH EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES, AND THOSE CTSOS ARE SKILLSUSA, FFA, FUTURE BUSINESS LEADERS OF AMERICA, AND EDUCATORS RISING.

WE DO PARTNER WHICH CHESAPEAKE AS YOU HEARD EARLIER.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS EVENING WITH DUAL ENROLLMENT OPPORTUNITIES.

WE HAVE DUAL ENROLLMENT OPPORTUNITIES, SEMESTER 2, COMING UP IN EDUCATION, AGRICULTURE, AS WELL AS COMPUTER SCIENCE, AND WELDING.

WE CURRENTLY OFFER A WELDING COURSE AT CCTC FOURTH PERIOD, AND OUR DUAL ENROLLMENT OFFERINGS HAPPEN FOURTH PERIOD AS WELL.

THREE OF THEM ARE CCTC, ONE IS IN NORTH CAROLINA HIGH SCHOOL.

PERFORMANCE QUALITY INDICATORS, WE TALKED ABOUT THE MEASURES BY WHICH WE ARE, I GUESS, MEASURED BY THE STATE AND OUR SCHOOL IMPROVEMENT PLAN ALIGNMENT.

THE PQI INDICATORS ARE PERFORMANCE ON MCAP ENGLISH, MCAP MATH, AND THE MISA SCIENCE, AS WELL AS FOUR-YEAR GRADUATION RATE, POST-SECONDARY PLACEMENTS, OR ARE THEY GOING STRAIGHT INTO A CAREER OR ARE THEY GOING ON TO SECONDARY EDUCATION.

WE LOOKED AT NON-TRAD ENROLLMENT, THAT RPC AND TSA ATTAINMENT THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.

DUAL COMPLETION.

THAT MEANS STUDENTS ARE BOTH CTE COMPLETERS AS WELL AS READY FOR COLLEGE AND UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND COLLEGE REQUIREMENTS.

IF THEY ARE ABLE TO MEET BOTH REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE CONSIDERED A DUAL COMPLETER. I GUESS.

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MORE JOBS FOR MARYLANDERS IS A MEASURE OF HOW MANY STUDENTS WE HAVE ACTUALLY COMPLETING CTE PROGRAMS OF STUDY.

THE CHECKMARKS ARE WHERE WE'RE GOOD, THE X MARKS ARE WHERE WE'RE NOT MEETING OUR GOALS.

[BACKGROUND] THAT GOES INTO OUR SCHOOL IMPROVEMENT PLAN GOALS, AND HERE I REALLY JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT OUR PQI INDICATORS, HOW THE STATE MEASURES US AND HOW OUR SCHOOL IMPROVEMENT PLAN GOALS ARE LINKED.

ALL THE HIGHLIGHTS YOU SEE, WE HAVE STRATEGIES IN PLACE WITHIN OUR SCHOOL IMPROVEMENT PLAN TO MEET THE PQI INDICATORS.

DISCIPLINE REFERRALS ISN'T UNDER A PQI INDICATOR FOR CTE IN MARYLAND.

OF COURSE, IT'S TRACKED BY THE STATE OF MARYLAND.

BUT WE HAVE A GOAL WITHIN CCTC TO DECREASE DISCIPLINE REFERRALS AND THAT KIND OF THING.

WE HAVE STRATEGIES IN PLACE, AND WE DO THAT THROUGH OUR PBIS PROGRAMMING ALREADY, DIFFERENT STRATEGIES VIEWS.

THIS IS THE DISCUSSION ABOUT TRANSITIONING FROM TECHNOLOGY EDUCATION.

TECHNOLOGY EDUCATION IS A COURSE.

IT'S NOT ATTACHED TO A CTE PROGRAM OF STUDY.

ALL OF THE PROGRAMS OF STUDY WE DISCUSSED TONIGHT, NONE OF THEM HAVE TECH ED AS ONE OF THE COURSES THAT'S REQUIRED TO COMPLETE THAT PROGRAM.

MSDE ALONG WITH BLUEPRINT, CALL FOR STUDENTS TO BE CTE COMPLETERS OR ON COLLEGE PATHWAYS.

COMPUTER SCIENCE ESSENTIALS AND PLTW ENGINEERING COURSES ARE ATTACHED TO PROGRAMS THAT HAVE 21ST CENTURY SKILLS THAT LEAD TO THE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES.

IN OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS, WE OFFER PLTW COMPUTER SCIENCE PROGRAMS, AS WELL AS ENGINEERING PROGRAMS TO PREPARE STUDENTS FOR THIS 21ST CENTURY PROGRAMS IN HIGH SCHOOL.

THEY REALLY LAY THE FOUNDATION FOR ENGINEERING AND COMPUTER SCIENCE.

>> CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT MIDDLE SCHOOL PROGRAM?

>> OF COURSE, WE OFFER A VARIETY OF PLTW COURSES IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.

STUDENTS GET THE SAME COURSE OFFERINGS.

THEY HAVE ENGINEERING BACKGROUNDS AND COMPUTER SCIENCE FOUNDATIONS, AND IT IS AN SO REQUIREMENT.

IS GOES INTO THAT COMPUTATIONAL THINKING, SO SO REQUIRE STUDENTS TO TAKE COMPUTATIONAL THINKING COURSES IN MIDDLE SCHOOL AND THE PLTW COURSES LAY THE FOUNDATION FOR THAT AND ALSO MEET THAT REQUIREMENT.

>> THEY HAVE TO TAKE IT IN MIDDLE SCHOOL?

>> THEY HAVE TO TAKE IT AT SOME POINT.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ALL OF THEM, BUT THEY HAVE TO TAKE A COURSE AT SOME POINT IN MIDDLE SCHOOL.

>> THAT'S PART OF THE SO REQUIREMENTS, TO BE WELL ROUNDED.

>> AS FAR AS TECH ED, WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSION OVER AND GOT A LETTER AND WHAT AREAS, WHAT TOPICS ARE COVERED IN TECH ED CURRENTLY?

>> CURRENTLY THEY HAVE THEM LAID OUT IN THEIR LETTERS.

I CAN'T JUST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD AND TALK ABOUT EACH OF THE DIFFERENT CONCEPTS.

BUT IT IS A MORE HANDS-ON PROGRAM.

TECHNOLOGY OF EDUCATION, I WOULD SAY.

THERE'S PROBLEM-SOLVING INVOLVED FOR SURE.

WE JUST WERE REALLY FEELING AS THOUGH THE PLTW ENGINEERING, AS WELL AS THE COMPUTER SCIENCE, ARE MORE GEARING STUDENTS FOR 21ST-CENTURY SKILLS.

>>THE CURRICULUM THAT TECHNOLOGY EDUCATION IS BASED OF WAS BASED OF WITH THE FOUNDATIONS OF TECHNOLOGY CURRICULUM FOR THE FOT, WHICH IS SOMETHING STATE OF MARYLAND MOVED TOWARDS A FEW YEARS AGO.

THOSE FOT PRINCIPLES HAVE BEEN PUSHED DOWN INTO THE GATEWAY'S PROGRAM THAT'S BEING OFFERED IN MIDDLE SCHOOL AND THE STANDARDS HAVE BEEN PUSHED DOWN MORE IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.

A LOT OF THE STANDARDS THAT ARE IN THE TECH ED COURSES, NOT TO SAY THAT TEACHERS AREN'T TEACHING THEM TO A HIGHER LEVEL AT HIGH SCHOOL, BUT THEY'RE ALREADY BEING EXPOSED TO IN MIDDLE.

PART OF OUR SWITCHES AS WELL IN MOVING IT DOWN.

WE START COMPUTER SCIENCE AND ENGINEERING COURSES AS EARLY AS K. IN THIS COUNTY, WE START BUILDING THE FOUNDATION IN THOSE AREAS.

IF YOU GO INTO, AND I HAVE PERSONAL EXPERIENCE IN THIS AREA, IF YOU GO INTO SOME OF THE INTERMEDIATE CLASSROOMS, EVEN IN K, KIDS ARE LEARNING HOW TO CODE BETTER THAN I CAN AT MY AGE.

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THEY'RE LEARNING THE PROBLEM-SOLVING SKILLS AND CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS AT AN EARLY AGE.

THEY'RE BUILDING THAT FOUNDATION AND SPRINGBOARD FORWARD.

THEY'RE BUILDING UPON THAT IN MIDDLE SCHOOL IN THEIR GATEWAY COURSES AS WELL AS ALSO IN OTHER EXPERIENCES.

IT'S A NATURAL PROGRESSION.

WHEN THE KIDS ENTER INTO HIGH SCHOOL, WE TALK ABOUT WANTING STUDENTS TO BE COLLEGE OR CAREER-READY.

HAVE A PROBLEM WITH TERMINOLOGY.

ALL KIDS, WE WANT THEM TO BE CAREER-READY.

SOME CHOOSE COLLEGES AS A PATH TO GET THERE.

BUT I HOPE NONE OF US WANT TO HAVE CHILDREN WHO ARE FULL-TIME COLLEGE STUDENTS FOREVER.

REALLY IT IS STILL CAREER-READY, IT'S JUST DIFFERENT PATHWAYS.

IF WE CAN PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR KIDS TO START ON THESE PATHWAYS IN NINTH GRADE AS WE'RE ASKING THEM TO DO, WHY NOT GIVE THEM AN OPTION FOR THEIR ENTRY-LEVEL COURSES OF EITHER BEING THE PRE-ENGINEERING COURSE, ONE OF THE EARLY ENGINEERING OPTIONS.

THE TWO THAT ARE THERE, IED OR POE PRINCIPLES OF ENGINEERING OR INTRODUCTION TO YOUR ENGINEERING DESIGN?

>> YEAH.

>> I THOUGHT SO. THANK YOU. WHY NOT START THEM ON THAT? WE START THEM ON THE INTRO TO COMPUTER SCIENCE COURSE, WHICH IF THEY GET A TASTE FOR THEM AND LIKE THEM, THEY'RE ALREADY WORKING TOWARDS COMPLETING THAT PROGRAM.

THEY ALREADY HIT A TICK BOX FOR THE TECH ED REQUIREMENT THAT THE STATE REQUIRES.

IF THEY GET A TASTE OF THEM AND LIKE [NOISE] "IT'S NOT MY THING," THEY STILL MEET THEIR TECH ED REQUIREMENT, AND THEY STILL SPRINGBOARD FORWARD TO WHATEVER PATHWAY THEY WANT.

JUST A QUICK NOTE, ONE OF THE TWO PATHWAYS OF ENGINEERING COMPUTER SCIENCE.

ONE STUDENT WHO WAS SITTING IN AN APPRENTICESHIP RIGHT NOW, OUR FIRST APPRENTICESHIP IS SOMEONE WHO IS A COMPUTER SCIENCE STUDENT AND IT'S COMPUTER SCIENCE FIELDS, IT FIELD.

THE PERSON HE'S WORKING FOR, SOMEONE WHO WAS ABLE TO START UP THEIR OWN BUSINESS IN CAROLINE COUNTY IS DOING AMAZINGLY WELL WITH WHAT WAS A ONE-PERSON SHOP.

WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR KIDS TO GET THEIR FEET WET IN PROGRAMS THAT LITERALLY CAN ALLOW THEM TO OPEN BUSINESSES IN OUR OWN COUNTY OR DRIVE IF THEY WANT TO SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT CAN STILL FEED WHAT IS POSSIBLE TO BUILD HERE.

I THINK WE HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO EXPOSE OUR STUDENTS TO THOSE OPTIONS EARLY ON, AND BY MAKING THE SHIFT FROM TECH ED, WHICH HAS BEEN THE REQUIREMENT SINCE I THINK '94.

IN 1994 IS WHEN TECH ED STARTED BEING A REQUIREMENT FOR ALL STUDENTS IN THE STATE OF MARYLAND INTO TWO MORE TARGETED PATHWAYS THAT GIVE OPTIONS, HELPS PUT US IN A BETTER POSITION.

THIS COUNTY MADE THAT DECISION TO MOVE FORWARD IN THAT DIRECTION LAST YEAR IN DECEMBER.

WE HAVE ALREADY STARTED TAKING STEPS TO CHANGE STAFFING DESIGN TO MEET THOSE NEEDS THROUGH ATTRITION AND TO START BRINGING IN ADDITIONAL COMPUTER SCIENCE TEACHERS.

WE DID THAT LAST YEAR, AND WE REALLY DO BELIEVE THIS IS A GOOD PATHWAY FORWARD FOR OPTIONS FOR OUR STUDENTS.

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, OPTIONS FOR COUNTY.

AGAIN IN DEVELOPMENT HERE THAT WE CAN REALLY BUILD INTO THAT PIPELINE, AND AGAIN, EXPOSING KIDS AT THE RIGHT TIME, BUILDING ON WHAT THEY'RE ALREADY LEARNING AS EARLY AS K. [NOISE]

>> NOW, HOW DOES IT WORK? DO TEACHERS HAVE TO GET EXTRA TRAINING OR PREP FOR THIS? DO WE OFFER WHAT THEY NEED?

>> YES, WE DO OFFER WHAT THEY NEED.

WILL IT BE A TOTAL ELIMINATION OF TECHNOLOGY EDUCATION FOREVER? NO, THERE PROBABLY WILL STILL BE AN OPTION OF A TECH COURSE THAT'LL NEED TO BE DONE, ESPECIALLY AS WE TRANSITION THROUGH.

BUT WE ARE MOVING TOWARDS THE OPTION WHEN STUDENTS SELECT.

TECH AID WILL NOT BE THE OPTION TO SELECT COMING IN AT [INAUDIBLE].

IT'S GOING TO BE COMPUTER SCIENCE OR ONE OF THE ENGINEERING COURSES.

WE DO OFFER STAFF THE TRAINING THAT THEY NEED TO KEEP THEIR CERTIFICATIONS WHERE THEY ADD THEIR CERTIFICATION IN THESE AREAS.

WE OFFER SUPPORT WITH THAT AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO WITH ANY EXISTING STAFF THAT WE HAVE THAT MY KNOWLEDGE, WE'VE MADE STAFF AWARE THEY TRIPLE CHECK WITH HR, BUT I'M SURE WE'VE MADE STAFF AWARE OF THE PROCESS AS WE'VE BEEN MOVING ALONG THROUGH THIS.

THEY IN TURN NEED AN [INAUDIBLE] YES, MA'AM.

>> JUST A LITTLE BIT ON MARYLAND'S BLUEPRINT FOR THE FUTURE.

THE CTE WORKGROUP FOR CAROLINE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS HAS BEEN FORMED AND WE HAVE STARTED MEETING.

THESE ARE THE LIST OF PEOPLE ON OUR CCPS CTE WORKER COMMITTEE.

[BACKGROUND]

>> THE BOARD WILL HEAR MORE ABOUT THIS, LIKELY IN THE JANUARY MEETING.

FOR OUR STRUCTURES THAT WE PUT IN PLACE, WE ARE TRYING TO GET A LITTLE BIT OUT TO BE PREPARED AS THE AIB AND [INAUDIBLE] PART OF EDUCATION

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DOWN WHAT BLUEPRINT IS GOING TO HAVE TO REQUIRE OF US TO DO FOR OUR PLANS.

WERE TRYING TO START PULLING TOGETHER MORE GROUPS TO START CONSIDERING WHAT'S IN THE LEGISLATION AND WHAT'S LIKELY TO HAVE TO BE THERE.

WE'VE ALREADY GOT SOME BRAINSTORMING BEFORE WE'VE PUT THE PLAN TO PAPER.

WE TRIED TO SELECT FOLKS WHO HAVE A KNOWLEDGE BASE WITHIN THE FIELDS.

WE HAVE ONE IN THIS AREA, WE HAVE ONE FOR EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION, THE CAREER LADDERS, COLLEGE AND CAREER READINESS, AND COMMUNITIES.

IT'S NOT COMMUNITY SCHOOLS. STUDENTS SUPPORT, THAT PIECE OF HER WHEN WE'VE ESTABLISHED FIVE WORKGROUPS TO START WORKING ON THESE AREAS, TO START BRAINSTORMING.

THEN, OF COURSE, WE HAVE A STEERING COMMITTEE OVERALL THAT WILL HELP HARNESS ALL OF THIS WHEN IT'S TIME FOR US TO WRITE OUR PLAN, TO PULL ALL OF THIS TOGETHER IN ORDER TO HAVE SOMETHING COHERENT THAT THE BOARD CAN CONSIDER WHEN IT'S TIME FOR US TO TRULY DEVELOP OUR PROGRAM PLAN MOVING FORWARD.

WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE A SUBCOMMITTEE APPROACH OF RESIDENT EXPERTS IN AND OUT OF CAROLINE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS TO TRY TO TACKLE SOME OF THIS.

THAT'S COME ALONG. INTERESTING THING ON THIS PIECE.

I THINK THE GROUP THAT'S GOING TO SEE THE MOST SHIFT THAT HASN'T BEEN TALKED ABOUT A LOT IS CTE.

THE GOVERNOR'S WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BOARD AND WHERE IS GOING, CTE IS LIKELY GOING TO MOVE AS THEY SAY IT, BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE AS OUT OF MSDE.

[BACKGROUND] REALLY SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT UNDER WORKFORCE INVESTMENT BOARD AND THE GOVERNOR'S WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BOARD.

IT WON'T BE AN MSDE ENTITY ANYMORE.

IT'LL BE TRULY FACILITATED BY BUSINESS, IN ESSENCE, WHICH COULD BE AWESOME.

IT'S A SHIFT THAT WILL BE PREPARED FOR, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY GOING TO BE A BIG SHIFT, NOT HAVE MSDE REALLY OVER IT AT THAT POINT.

>> THE OVERALL GOAL IS FOR CTE TO HAVE 45 PERCENT OF MARYLAND GRADUATES WITH AN APPROVED APPRENTICESHIP OR THE INDUSTRY-RECOGNIZED OCCUPATIONAL CREDENTIAL.

THAT IS THE CTE GOLD FOR BLUEPRINT IN CAROLINE BY 2030, 2031.

LOOKING AT WHERE WE'RE SITTING RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE ONE STUDENT IN APPRENTICESHIP.

WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT WHERE WE WERE WITH RECOGNIZED POST-SECONDARY CREDENTIALS AS WELL AS TECHNICAL SKILL ATTAINMENTS THAT ARE OFFERED BY OUR CURRENT PROGRAM OF STUDY, WE HAVE CURRENTLY 56 PERCENT OF OUR PROGRAMS OF STUDY THAT HAVE THAT RECOGNIZED POST-SECONDARY CREDENTIAL.

LOOKING AT THE GOAL OF 45 PERCENT OF STUDENTS HAVING ONE OF THOSE TWO THINGS WITHIN THEIR CTE PATHWAY, IT SHOWS THAT WE HAVE WORK TO DO.

THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE FUTURE FOR SURE.

WE'LL WORK THROUGH THAT AS IT COMES.

HERE I JUST HAVE POPPED UP THE LEARNING TARGET AND SUCCESS CRITERIA AGAIN.

IF THERE WAS ANYTHING YOU WANT FURTHER EXPLANATION ON OR ANYTHING YOU THOUGHT WE DIDN'T QUITE COVER ENOUGH, THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO GAIN THE INFORMATION, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

>> BOARD MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS OR MORE CONVERSATION?

>> I DO NEED TO CLEAR THE RECORD.

TOMORROW NIGHT [INAUDIBLE].

MY DAYS WERE MIXED UP TOO.

[OVERLAPPING] BUT THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE HIGH SCHOOL [INAUDIBLE] [BACKGROUND].

JUST GET A BOX, IT WILL SOLVE ALL YOUR PROBLEMS.

>> CAN THE KIDS EAT ICE CREAM?

>> IT'S A WIN-WIN.

>> IT'S A WIN-WIN FOR EVERYONE.

>> [LAUGHTER] YES.

>> I DO THINK THAT IN ORDER TO REMAIN PROACTIVE, THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER [INAUDIBLE].

I THINK IT JUST PUTS US IN A PLACE AGAIN WHERE WE'RE PROACTIVE.

THAT WE CAN DEAL WITH REACTION.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> TECHNOLOGIES ARE CHANGING SO FAST.

IF THE CTE IS MOVING OUT OF THE MSDE, THAT MIGHT NOT BE SUCH A BAD THING BECAUSE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING CURRICULUMS. BUT I DO SEE THAT KIDS JUST GRADUATING WITH HOPEFULLY A FIRM AWARENESS OF READING, WRITING, AND ARITHMETIC, IF THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IS THERE ARE SO MANY CAREERS OUT THERE THAT THEY CAN HIT THE GROUND RUNNING WITH A GOOD PAYCHEQUE AND GOOD BENEFITS.

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WE HAVE THE ABILITY IN THESE SCHOOLS TO GET THEM AND EQUIP WITH FREE INSTRUCTIONS. I SEE THE BENEFIT.

>> [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> ALRIGHT. HOW TO SCHEDULE.

BOARD MEMBERS, ANYTHING ELSE? WE'LL DO COLE'S HEARING AND WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN?

>> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND.

>> [INAUDIBLE] ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. THANK YOU ALL.

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