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>> ARE WE ON? WE'RE SO ON.

[1. Opening Items]

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GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

WELCOME TO THE OCTOBER 4TH, CAROLINE COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION MEETING.

WE OPENED THE MEETING AND OPEN SESSION AT 4:10 THIS AFTERNOON WITH A MOTION BY MRS. DIGIACOMO, AND A SECOND BY MS. WAYMAN.

AT THE TIME, IT WAS A 4/0 VOTE.

MR. JONES WAS NOT HERE YET.

A MINUTE LATER, STILL WE WE'RE SEEING 4:10, WE HAD MOTION BY MR. BARTON TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

SECOND BY MRS. DIGIACOMO, 4/0 VOTE AGAIN, AND ABOUT 10 MINUTES LATER, MR. JONES ARRIVED AT 4:15.

THROUGH THAT TIME, THE BOARD DISCUSSED THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT ASSIGNMENT, PROMOTION, AND HIRING, ETC, OF A SUPERINTENDENT POSITION.

WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT OUR SEARCH PROCESS WHICH YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT LATER.

ALSO THEN DOCTOR SIMONS ARRIVED AT 5:05, AND WE DISCUSSED THE NEGOTIATIONS CHANGES, ADDENDUM TO THE UNION CONTRACT.

AT 5:55, WE ADJOURN EXECUTIVE SESSION, AND GOT OUR TECHNOLOGY [NOISE] STRAIGHT, AND NOW IT'S 6:05.

BOARD MEMBERS, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION?

>> MOVE.

>> SECOND.

>> MOTION BY MR. BARTON AND A SECOND BY MRS. DIGIACOMO. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

>> AYE.

>> THANK YOU. WE HAVE FOUR OF US PRESENT IN THE ROOM TONIGHT AND MS. WAYMAN ACCESSING VIA ZOOM, SO WE ARE ALL IN ATTENDANCE.

THANK YOU. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE EVERYONE.

>>

>> THANK YOU. BOARD MEETING.

OUR BOARD MEMBERS SAY MOVING INTO OUR AGENDA.

IT WAS SENT OUT FRIDAY AS OUTLINE.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA?

>> OKAY. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION [BACKGROUND] TO HAVE IN ADDITION TO THE ACTION ITEMS, TO DISCUSS WHO WE WILL CHOOSE AS A VENDOR FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT SEARCH.

>> THANK YOU. MRS. DIGIACOMO'S MOTION TO ADD ACTION ITEM TO THE AGENDA. DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> I'LL SECOND.

>> SECOND..

>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A SECOND BY MS. WAYMAN AND MR. BARTON.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE? AYE. AYE.

>> THANK YOU, RACHEL.

WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD A 6.05 TO THE AGENDA.

ACTION ITEM RELATING TO SUPERINTENDENT SEARCH CONTRACT.

>> OKAY.

>> THANK YOU. [NOISE] MOVING ON TO BOARD MEMBERS REPORTS.

[2. Reports]

WELL MS. WAYMAN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING OTHER THAN A MIRACULOUS RECOVERY FROM [NOISE] YOUR SURGERY?

>> I HAVE NO REPORT, BUT IT HAS BEEN GOOD TO KEEP UP VIA E-MAIL WITH THE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE GOING ON WITHIN OUR COUNTY.

CONGRATULATIONS TO EACH OF THE SCHOOLS FOR HAVING A WONDERFUL BACK TO SCHOOL START, AND WE WISH YOU WELL AS YOU CONTINUE THE GOOD WORK.

>> THANK YOU. MR. JONES.

>> A COUPLE OF FOOTBALL GAMES, AND CCTC WAS AN AMP PROJECT PRESENTATION.

WHAT THAT WAS I THINK THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 14 OR 15 STUDENTS.

THEY CHOSE A PROJECT WHICH IS GOING TO BE A DARK WORD CAT, LIKE A CAT [INAUDIBLE].

EACH STUDENT CREATED THEIR DESIGN FOR THE CABINET.

THEY PRESENTED IT LIKE TRYING TO SELL THEIR PROJECT BECAUSE AT THE END OF THIS, THERE ARE GOING TO SELECT ONE, AND THEY DID SELECT ONE.

THEY'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY PRODUCE THIS, AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO SELL IT TO THE PUBLIC TO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO BUY ONE.

THEY SPOKE ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF MATERIALS THEY WOULD USE.

OF COURSE, THEY HAD DRAWN UP WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE, AND AT THE END, AFTER THEY ALL PRESENTED, THEY VOTED, AND THE GUEST AND THE STUDENTS VOTED ON WHICH ONE.

THERE WAS A TIE. TWENTY- TWO OF THEM, THEY VOTED AGAIN JUST BETWEEN THE TWO,

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AND THERE WAS ONE THAT WAS SELECTED, AND THAT'S THE ONE THAT [INAUDIBLE] FORWARD, AND PRODUCE AND SELL.

I HOPE TO HAVE IT DONE I BELIEVE FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE BY BEFORE CHRISTMAS TIME.

I THINK IF THEY NEED TO GO BACK WHEN THEY'RE MAKING IT AND SAY, HOW THEY DECIDE TO ENABLE [INAUDIBLE].

IT WAS A WELL BEHAVED CLASS.

I THINK THE STUDENTS ASKED US GOOD QUESTION IS SOME OF THE VISITORS AS FAR AS TO THE OTHER STUDENTS JUST THINGS ABOUT WHY THEY CHOSE CERTAIN THINGS OR WHAT THEY DID.

A LOT OF GOOD THINKING. THAT'S IT.

>> THANK YOU. MR. BARTON.

>> THANK YOU. THIS IS THE TIME TO SAY THE LEAST, AND A LOT GOING ON OUT THERE.

I'D A COUPLE OF THINGS I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT.

IT'S BEEN FUN AND NICE TO BE ABLE TO ATTEND SOME OF THE ATHLETIC EVENTS, AND TO SEE THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT, AND STAFF ARE MAKING IT HAPPEN.

I KNOW IT'S A CHALLENGING THING THIS YEAR THE STUDENTS BEING ABLE TO BE BACK OUT THERE PLAYING WHATEVER SPORT THAT'S THEIR CHOSEN SPORT.

I'M GETTING A SENSE, AND SOMETIMES HEARING IT DIRECTLY FROM SOME OF THESE ATHLETES THAT THEY REALIZED THAT THIS WAS AN EASY THING TO PULL OFF, AND TO MAKE HAPPEN, AND IT'S FRAGILE THAT IT COULD GO AWAY, AND THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE CARE TAKING, AND THEY'RE MAKING IT WORK.

THE COACHES ARE MAKING IT WORK.

THE STUDENTS, THE ATHLETES ARE MAKING IT WORK.

IT'S REALLY PLEASANT TO SEE.

IT'S ESPECIALLY NICE FOR ME TO ATTEND THE VOLLEYBALL GAME WITH BOTH OUR HIGH SCHOOLS THERE, AND MISTER NEWCOMB WAS THERE.

ALSO IT WAS NICE TO SEE THOSE TWO PLAN FOR ME.

IT JUST REPRESENTED SURVIVING DESPITE THE PANDEMIC, BEING OUT THERE PLAN, AND I SAW A LOT OF SMILES ON THOSE KIDS FACES.

SOME OF THEM WERE DOING THINGS THAT THEY MIGHT MISS, HIT A BALL, AND THEY'RE STILL SMILING, SUPPORT EACH OTHER, AND THE COACHING TELLS YOU THAT THEY ARE BOTH TEAMS, THAT THOSE COACHES HAVE THOSE KIDS PICKING EACH OTHER UP LITERALLY, AND FIGURATIVELY, IT'S THERE, JUST PLAYING THOSE GAMES.

THAT'S REALLY COOL. I NOTED ON MY ACTIVITIES SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS.

I COULDN'T EVEN COUNT THEM ALL, WITH STUDENTS ESPECIALLY, BUT ALSO WITH TEACHERS.

AWAY FROM THE SCHOOL IF YOU JUST RUN INTO THEM, SOME OF THESE KIDS, AND SOME OF THESE TEACHERS, IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE MINIMIZING WHAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH.

THEY'RE MAKING IT WORK.

THAT'S THE ATTITUDE, THE OVERARCHING ATTITUDE.

THEY'LL COMMENT ABOUT SOME THINGS, WHY IS THIS GOT TO BE THAT WAY OR WE WISH WE COULD HAVE A NORMAL HOMECOMING EVENT, BUT THEN HE TALKED ABOUT HOW THEY'RE MAKING IT WORK.

THE OTHER PART THAT I COME AWAY FROM THAT I'M STILL AMAZED BY IS IT PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTY INCLUDING STAFF AND THE SYSTEM, AND PARENTS, AND STUDENTS THINK THAT THE FIVE PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD MANAGE EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON, FROM THE BUS ROUTES TO THE SPECIFIC CURRICULUM, TO WHAT THEY'RE EATING FOR LUNCH THAT DAY. [LAUGHTER] [INAUDIBLE]. [LAUGHTER]

>> WHEN I GET ASKED THOSE QUESTIONS, I SAY, "YEAH, WE VOTE ON ALL THOSE THINGS." [LAUGHTER] COME TO THE NEXT MEETING, ATTEND NEXT MEETING, YOU WILL SEE US VOTING ON YOUR LUNCH MENU.

[LAUGHTER] THE TRUTH IS NO, WE DON'T, AND PEOPLE JUST NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

ANYWAY, DESPITE ALL THE CHALLENGES AND THE HARDSHIPS, AND THE QUARANTINES, AND COVID RUNNING AROUND, PEOPLE ARE STILL MAKING THEM WORK TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITY, AND IT'S REALLY TO THEIR CREDIT.

>> THANK YOU. MRS. DIGIACOMO.

>> ALRIGHTY. BECAUSE OF THE COVID NUMBERS AND THAT, I DID NOT MAKE MY USUAL SCHOOL VISITS.

I DIDN'T THINK IT WOULD BE PRUDENT.

I MISS IT, AND AS SOON AS THE NUMBERS GO DOWN, I'LL BE BACK, BUT I'VE BEEN KEEPING UP WITH WHAT'S GOING ON AND I'VE ALSO BEEN HELPING WITH THE LEO CLUB.

WE DID THE CAR SHOW.

YOU REMEMBER THE LEO CLUB? THEY'VE MADE $1600 SELLING COTTON CANDY AND [LAUGHTER] COTTON CANDY IS GREAT BECAUSE IT'S VERY LOW OVERHEAD, HIGH PROFIT.

>> WOW.

>> VAST MAJORITY OF IT IS GOING TO GO TO BUY GIFTS FOR TEENAGERS IN THE HOSPITAL.

THE GROUP IS DOING GREAT, I THINK THEY'RE UP TO ABOUT 65 MEMBERS.

>> YEAH.

>> I'LL BE WITH THEM ON THE [NOISE] PARADE ON FRIDAY.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

I'D LIKE TO CONGRATULATE BRITTANY SIMMONS FOR BEING THE MARYLAND LIBRARIAN OF THE YEAR, AND COLONEL RICHARDSON HIGH SCHOOL JUNIOR, SHELBI BRIGGS, WAS APPOINTED TO THE GOVERNOR'S YOUTH ADVISORY COUNCIL.

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CONGRATULATIONS TO BOTH THEM, AND KUDOS FOR I GUESS WOULD BE TIBET BREWSTER BECAUSE SHE'S GETTING SCHOOL MEALS TO THE QUARANTINE STUDENTS NOW.

I THINK THAT'S INCREDIBLE, AND THE PRINCIPALS AND I'M SURE PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY OFFICE, THEY NOW HAVE AFTER-SCHOOL TUTORS FOR QUARANTINE STUDENTS.

THEY'RE LISTENING WHEN PEOPLE ASK FOR IT, THEY'RE MAKING IT HAPPEN, AND I THINK THAT'S AWESOME.

IF I'D HAVE TO SAY ONE NEGATIVE, AND I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, TOO MUCH TESTING.

THESE KIDS ARE BURNED OUT, THE TEACHERS ARE BURNED OUT, SOME OF THE ADMINISTRATORS ARE DOING 12, 16 HOURS A DAY JUST TRYING TO GET THE TESTING UP.

I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, AS A TEACHER, WE NEED TO BE TEACHING AND THE KIDS NEED TO BE LEARNING.

IF REQUIRED BY SOME KIND OF LAW TO DO TESTING, OKAY, OBVIOUSLY, BUT IF IT'S OPTIONAL, THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION, LET IT GO BECAUSE THERE'S ENOUGH GOING ON.

BUT I AGREE WITH MR. SPARTAN, THE KIDS ARE EXCITED TO BE BACK AND THEY'RE GRATEFUL FOR IT.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH BEEN MY MONTH.

>> THANK YOU. I'LL JUST MIRROR A LOT OF THE SAME COMMENTS AND SAYING THAT IT'S NICE TO GET OUT TO EVENTS, SEE THE KIDS, THE STUDENTS HAVING GOOD TIMES ON THE FIELDS AND ACTIVITIES, WHETHER IT BE A SPORTS FIELD OR JUST THE HOMECOMING, NEXT TO THE HOMECOMING FLOATS AND ACTIVITIES AND PARADES ARE COMING UP.

THEY MISSED THAT WHOLE THING FOR A YEAR, AND TO SEE THESE KIDS DO THAT IS GREAT.

THAT BEING SAID, IF THEY'RE OUTSIDE, BUT WE ALL KNOW WE'RE ALL CONFLICTED WITH THIS.

I BELIEVE, MAYBE NOT ALL OF US, BUT WE ARE BEING HELD AT A DIFFERENT STANDARD INSIDE OUR SCHOOL BUILDINGS AND WE'RE TRYING TO MANAGE THAT A MONTH IN.

I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME GOOD DATA.

I HOPE WE'VE GOT SOME GOOD DATA THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT LATER AND I HOPE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IT AT THE STATE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY I'LL JUST GET ON THE MIC AND TALK ABOUT IT, IF YOU'RE SICK, YOU'RE SICK, YOU SHOULDN'T BE IN CLASS, BUT I THINK WE'RE DOING A LOT MORE DAMAGE TO SOME OF THESE KIDS.

THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF KIDS IN CAROLINE COUNTY NOW WAS THE LAST UPDATE 600 AND SOMETHING QUARANTINED WITH NO NECESSARY SYMPTOMS. I'M HOPING WE CAN DO SOMETHING ON THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE ACROSS THE STATE BECAUSE IT'S GREAT TO SEE THE KIDS LIVING THEIR LIVES AND I HOPEFULLY DON'T BELIEVE ANYBODY HAS BEEN REALLY NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY THE HEALTH SIDE AS OF YET.

BUT THAT BEING SAID, I'LL JUST SAY TOO THAT SOME OF MY MONTH WAS TAKEN UP WITH ME AND BOARD BUSINESS THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT LATER.

WITH THAT, I'LL MOVE ON.

SUPERINTENDENT'S REPORT.

>> GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT NEWCOMB, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT'S REPORT FOR THIS MONTH, I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE FIRST OF WHAT WILL BE MONTHLY VISITS.

IT'S IMPORTANT AS SUPERINTENDENT AND ANYBODY WORKING IN CENTRAL OFFICE OBVIOUSLY TO GET OUT THE SCHOOL BUILDINGS.

WHEN YOU REALIZE HOW MANY DAYS THERE ARE A MONTH AND HOW MANY THINGS YOU HAVE ON THE AGENDA, IT GETS TO BE A CHALLENGE SOMETIMES TO FIND TIME TO FAITHFULLY GET OUT TO EVERY BUILDING.

A RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS PROVIDED TO ME BY A MENTOR WHO I RESPECT AND I APPRECIATE IT, IT WAS, LOOK, YOU GOT NINE BUILDINGS IN YOUR COUNTY, NINE CAMPUSES, TEN BUILDINGS INCLUDING THE TECH CENTER.

BASICALLY, A 10-MONTH SCHOOL YEAR, BUT JUNE'S SHORT, SO REALLY YOU GOT NINE MONTHS.

FIND A WAY TO DEDICATE ONE DAY A MONTH TO EACH ONE OF THE CAMPUSES FROM BELL TO BELL.

BE THERE BEFORE THE BUSES GET THERE, STAY THERE UNTIL THE BUSES LEAVE.

HAVE NO AGENDA OTHER THAN BEING THERE AND LIVING IN THE BUILDING FOR THE DAY, TALKING WITH PEOPLE, SITTING IN CLASSROOMS. DON'T GO IN WITH A NOTEPAD, YOU'RE THERE TO JUST SEE WHAT THE KIDS ARE SEEING, BE THERE WITH THE STAFF AND JUST ENJOY THE DAY AND APPRECIATE WHAT EVERYBODY'S DOING.

I APPRECIATED THAT ADVICE, IT WAS A GOOD DAY FOR THE SOUL I WOULD SAY.

I SPENT MY FIRST DAY ACTUALLY AT GREENSBORO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

WITH AS BUSY AS SEPTEMBER WAS, I ACTUALLY STARTED THIS IN ACTUALLY IT WAS VERY IN THE SEPTEMBER 30TH, SPENT THE FULL DAY AT GREENSBORO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE VERY END.

WAS FUNNY, MRS. [INAUDIBLE] ABOUT 2:30 WAS CHATTING WITH ME IN THE HALLWAY AND SHE WAS LIKE, SO YOU'RE HEAD OUT, RIGHT? MRS. [INAUDIBLE] APPEARED TO THE VERY END.

REALLY? LIKE YOU MEANT IT.

GREAT. [LAUGHTER] I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER HAD SOMEBODY LIKE A SUPERINTENDENT LITERALLY STAY ALL DAY.

THEN, MRS. [INAUDIBLE], THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, AND SHE TOTALLY GOT IT, ENJOYED BEING THERE FOR THE DAY, YOU GOT TO SPEND TIME IN CLASSROOMS IN EACH GRADE LEVEL, SPENT TIME AT LUNCH,

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SPENT TIME WITH BUS DUTY, RECESS DUTY, YOU NAME IT, JUST BEING INVOLVED, BEING IN THERE WITH THE KIDS.

AGAIN, IT WAS GREAT FOR THE SOUL, GREAT TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE CLASSROOMS, THE TEACHING AND LEARNING IS REAL.

THE SMILES WERE INFECTIOUS WITH THE KIDS THOUGH IT WAS BEHIND A MASK.

YOU COULD SEE IT IN THE CRINKLE IN THEIR EYE.

THE KIDS WERE ENGAGED AND ENERGETIC.

IT WAS AWESOME TO SEE STAFF WERE GIVING EVERYTHING THEY HAD FOR THE KIDS WHO WERE IN FRONT OF THEM, REALLY DOING A GREAT JOB, AND IT WAS JUST WONDERFUL TO SEE THAT HAPPEN.

IT WAS GREAT TO SEE ALSO BUSES MOVING SEAMLESSLY, CAFETERIA LINES MOVING SEAMLESSLY, AND THE LINE ITSELF LOOKED AMAZING.

THEY DID A GREAT JOB OF PRESENTATION. BUILDING LOOKED BEAUTIFUL.

YEAH, IT'S A NEW BUILDING, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE 800 KIDS GOING THROUGH IT EVERYDAY, 800 LITTLE KIDS WHO MAKE MESSES, AND ADULTS WHO CAN TOO, I OWN UP FROM MY OWN ON THAT ONE.

ADULTS WHO CAN TOO, THEY'RE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB OF KEEPING THAT BUILDING LOOKING GREAT ALL DAY LONG, AND IT WAS JUST AN AWESOME COMPLEMENT TO SEE THE GOOD WORK THAT'S HAPPENING ON A DAILY BASIS AND GOOD THINGS HAPPENING THERE.

I'LL BE UP AT RIDGELY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THIS MONTH, I BELIEVE IT'S OCTOBER 22ND.

I'LL SPEND THE DAY WITH TERRIERS AND THEN MOVE ALONG AS THE YEAR PROGRESSES TO EACH ONE OF THE BUILDINGS AND SPEND TIME WITH ADMIN, TEACHERS, STAFF, AND EVERYBODY IN-BETWEEN, AND JUST ENJOYING THE DAY AND SEEING WHAT IT IS WE'RE WORKING ON AND SEEING THE THINGS WE NEED TO WORK ON.

IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THOSE AS WELL AND TO BE ABLE TO FOLLOW UP.

GREAT DAY, GREAT EXPERIENCE.

LIKE I SAID, IT WAS GOOD FOR THE SOUL, TO GET OUT AND SEE WHERE THE THINGS HAPPEN ON A REGULAR BASIS AT THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND LEVEL. IT WAS GREAT.

>> THANK YOU. SOUNDS GOOD.

GOOD TO BE IN THE SCHOOLS LIKE YOU SAID.

DIRECTOR'S REPORTS.

>> WE'RE STARTING WITH INSTRUCTION. GOOD EVENING.

I WANTED TO FIRST HIGHLIGHT THAT WE HAD OUR FIRST FULL PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT DAY OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, AND ALTHOUGH A LOT HAPPENED AMONG ALL CONTENTS, ONE THING I REALLY WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT WAS THAT OUR HIGH SCHOOL PE TEACHERS AND HEALTH TEACHERS BECAME CERTIFIED IN CPR.

THEY ARE NOW ABLE TO TEACH THEIR HEALTH STUDENTS AND PE STUDENTS CPR.

WE ARE WORKING ON SECURING SOME TITLE GRANT FUNDING TO PAY FOR THE CERTIFICATION AND OVER THE COURSE OF WHAT WE WOULD SAY 3-4 YEARS AS STUDENTS GO THROUGH HEALTH CLASS WOULD BE THAT ALL HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS ARE CERTIFIED IN CPR.

I WANTED TO REALLY HIGHLIGHT THAT FOR OUR PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT.

>> GOOD. AS PART OF THE CPR CLASS, DOES THAT INCLUDE AED CERTIFICATION?

>> I BELIEVE IT IS CPR AND FIRST AID.

>> NO, AED.

>> I KNOW. I DO NOT BELIEVE AED IS A PART OF IT.

>> ARE THEY TRAINED? THEY'RE TRAINED TRAINERS NOW?

>> YES.

>> THEY COULD TEACH OTHER PEOPLE?

>> CORRECT.

>> THAT'S WONDERFUL.

>> CORRECT.

>> WELL, I WOULD JUST THROUGH IN THERE IF WE CAN ADD AED ASPECT OF IT IN THERE BECAUSE I REMEMBER CPR HAS BEEN ALONG FOR AS LONG YOU CAN, AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE AEDS IN ALL OUR SCHOOLS NOW.

>> WE DO.

>> ACCORDING TO THE TRAINING I'VE SAT THROUGH IS IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN AED THERE AND SOMEBODY READY TO RUN IT, IT'S WELL, PRETTY BASIC, BUT THAT'S THE DEAL-BREAKER OR THE WINNER THERE I THINK, BUT I'D LOVE TO ADD AED AS A PART OF THAT.

>> I MADE NOTE OF IT.

>> FOR OUR KIDS. THANK YOU.

>> YOU MAY FIND THAT THEY DID GET THAT.

>> THEY MIGHT.

>> BECAUSE I THINK IT'S PART OF THE STANDARD CPR TRAINING BEFORE YOU BECOME A TRAINER.

>> I'M WAITING TO SEE IF [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER]

>> I JUST THOUGHT OF IT.

>> NO, THAT'S OKAY.

>> AT ONE TIME, THAT WAS THE CASE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S STILL THERE.

>> I KNOW IT WAS ALWAYS CPR AND FIRST AID TOGETHER, AND I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE AED.

>> QUICK QUESTION ABOUT PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT.

SOME OF THEM WERE VIRTUAL AND SOME WERE IN PERSON.

>> CORRECT.

>> HOW WAS IT CHOSEN?

>> IT WAS BASED ON NUMBERS, AND IF SUPERVISORS FELT THAT THEY COULD SPACE OUT APPROPRIATELY COVID-WISE, THAT THEY WOULD DO IN PERSON IF POSSIBLE, OR VIRTUAL WAS AN OPTION.

>> THANKS.

>> AND THEN THE SECOND SLIDE IS JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CCTC.

HERE I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT CHARACTER COUNTS COACHES.

WE HAVE BEGUN THAT AGAIN AND CCTC, EACH PROGRAM OF STUDY HAS BEEN ASSIGNED A CHARACTER COACH.

THOSE COACHES ARE COMING IN AND SPEAKING TO CLASSES ABOUT GOOD CHARACTER, EITHER IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY, DEPENDING ON THE COACH THEMSELVES.

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>> GOOD EVENING PRESIDENT NEWCOMB, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. EARLY CHILDHOOD.

ON SEPTEMBER 27TH, WE'VE PROVIDED PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT IN CONSCIOUS DISCIPLINE AND OUR POPULATION WAS ANY NEW PRE-K TEACHERS, ALONG WITH ALL OF OUR KINDERGARTEN TEACHERS, GUIDANCE COUNSELORS, AND SCHOOL ADMIN FOR THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

JUST AS A REMINDER, THIS WAS OUR TRAUMA-INFORMED APPROACH THAT WE WERE USING INSIDE OF OUR ELEMENTARY CLASSROOMS, WHERE WE ARE TEACHING BEHAVIOR, WE'RE BEING EXTREMELY PROACTIVE IN TEACHING OUR CHILDREN HOW TO GET ALONG, HOW TO INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER.

THIS HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL AT OUR PRE-K LEVEL, SO OF COURSE WE'VE EXPANDED THAT DECAY.

THE HOPE IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO EXPAND THIS ALL THE WAY THROUGH FIFTH GRADE.

THE REACTION FROM THE PARTICIPANTS WAS EXTREMELY POSITIVE ESPECIALLY THE ADMINISTRATORS, AS THEY SAID, THAT THEY DRANK THE KOOL-AID.

IT WAS WONDERFUL AND THEY COULDN'T [LAUGHTER] WAIT FOR THE NEXT TIME WE WOULD BE GETTING TOGETHER.

YOU CAN SEE WE WERE ACTUALLY IN-PERSON.

EVERY THREE SEATS IS SIX FEET, SO WE WERE ABLE TO SPACE EVERYBODY APART.

THEN THE NEXT THING I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT WAS OUR PROJECT AWARE BRAND, WHICH DR. SIMMONS WORKED ENDLESSLY LAST YEAR ALL YEAR LONG ACTUALLY INTO THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, TO OBTAIN THIS GRANT.

IT WAS AWARDED TO THREE SCHOOL SYSTEMS. ONE BEING [INAUDIBLE] COUNTY, ONE BEING INVOLVED BALTIMORE CITY AND ONE BEING CAROLINE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

THIS ENABLED US TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT TRAINING TO OUR STAFF AND ALSO INTO OUR COMMUNITY THAT WOULD HELP WITH SOCIAL, EMOTIONAL, AND TRAUMA AND BEHAVIORAL NEEDS OF OUR STUDENTS.

THIS DOES LOOK VERY SIMILAR TO A TRAIN OR TRAIN A MODEL WHERE WE TRAIN TWO PEOPLE, THOSE TWO PEOPLE TRAIN ADDITIONAL PEOPLE AND THIS IS TO DEVELOP AN AWARENESS SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE WORKING WITH WHEN OUR STUDENTS DO COME TO US WITH ADDITIONAL NEEDS.

YOU CAN SEE HERE WHAT WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED IN YEAR 1 AND THEN WHERE WE ARE ON YEAR 2.

IN YEAR 1, OUR FOLKS, WHICH IS LED BY OUR PROJECT MANAGER [INAUDIBLE], IS DEFINITELY VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE SOCIAL EMOTIONAL WELL-BEING PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE CREATED, WHICH HAS ENABLED US TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT FAMILIES WITH RESOURCES, PROVIDE ADDITIONAL TRAINING, AND RESPOND TO STUDENTS NEEDS.

>> VERY GOOD THANK YOU. FOOD SERVICES.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I HEARD SOME GREAT COMMENTS ABOUT THE FOOD SERVICES DEPARTMENT THE LAST 10, 15 MINUTES AND IT'S A GREAT SEGUE FOR WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT.

IT'S MY SNAPSHOT DEPARTMENT FOR THE MONTH.

BETH BREWSTER IS AN AMAZING MANAGER OF FOOD SERVICES.

SHE HAS SECURED A GRANT THE MARYLAND FOOD BANK TO RECEIVE FREE FOOD TO CONTINUE AT THE BACKPACK PROGRAM THROUGH THE MONTH OF DECEMBER.

SHE WAS ALSO RECENTLY APPOINTED BY THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE FOR THE STATE FOOD SYSTEM RESILIENCY COUNSEL TO REPRESENT ALL PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

THAT'S A NICE FEATHER ON HER HAT.

WE CAME UP WITH A 144 MEALS SHY OF DOING A 100,000 MEALS THIS SUMMER SO SHE DID 99,856.

THAT IS A QUITE AN IMPRESSIVE AMOUNT OF MEALS.

NOW I KNOW WE HAD A LOT OF KIDS IN SCHOOLS AND THEY WERE DOING THE MOBILE PROGRAM, THAT'S THE AGGREGATE NUMBER.

THAT'S STILL VERY, VERY IMPRESSIVE NUMBER.

THEY WERE LITTLE UNDER THEIR LOCAL PRODUCE THAT THEY WANTED TO SERVE IN THE SCHOOLS THIS YEAR.

THEY WERE UNDER THE 10,000 POUND MARK THEY WERE TRYING TO HIT AND THIS WAS REALLY BECAUSE THE STAFF WAS SPREAD THIN THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER WORKING AT ALL THE SCHOOLS.

SO THEY COULDN'T GET OUT THERE AND WORK WITH THE PRODUCE OR WITH THE FARM TO GET ALL THAT PRODUCE AND THEY ONLY GET, BUT THEY DID GET CLOSE TO 10,000 POUNDS AND THEY WERE ABLE TO APPLY THAT TO THE MEALS THIS SUMMER.

THE SHORE GOURMET MOBILE UNIT WILL BE BACK ON THE ROAD IN ABOUT TWO WEEKS, I EXPECT TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT PROGRAM AND GETTING IT GOING NEXT WEEK.

THE WEEK OF OCTOBER 18TH, WE SHOULD BE HEARING A LOT MORE ABOUT THAT PROGRAM.

THE OTHER THING I HAD HER DO IS I WANTED TO DO A COMPARE AND CONTRAST TO WHERE WE WERE LAST SEPTEMBER, TO WHERE WE ARE THIS SEPTEMBER, GRANTED TWO DIFFERENT MODELS OF EDUCATION.

VIRTUAL BASICALLY OR HYBRID TO WHERE WE'RE AT NOW WITH THE KIDS AND SCHOOL FACE-TO-FACE.

LAST YEAR FOR BREAKFASTS, SHE DID OVER 26,000 BREAKFASTS IN THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER. NOT TOO SHABBY.

THIS SEPTEMBER SHE DID OVER 44,000 BREAKFASTS, I'M SORRY.

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THEN FOR THE LUNCHES, SHE DID OVER 25,000 LAST YEAR IN SEPTEMBER.

THIS YEAR SHE'S DOUBLED THAT AND DONE OVER 51,000 MEALS.

SUFFICE TO SAY IT'S JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE IN THIS CLASSROOM, THEY ARE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE ALL THE KIDS BACK IN THE BUILDING AS WELL.

THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB.

MY HAT IS OFF TO HER, HER DEPARTMENT, AND HER TEAM.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> SOUNDS GOOD. MOVING ON TO STUDENT REPRESENTATIVE REPORT.

WE HAVE ZACH HERE WITH US THIS EVENING.

ZACH WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD.

>> GOOD EVENING, DR. SIMMONS, PRESIDENT NEWCOMB, AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

I COME TO YOU TONIGHT AS MANY OF OUR SCHOOLS IN THE NORTH PART OF OUR COUNTY ARE GETTING SETTLED IN AND ADJUSTED WITH THE NEW SCHOOL YEAR.

STARTING MY REPORT AT DENTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, THE FOURTH AND FIFTH GRADE DOLPHINS LAST MONTH HAVE BEEN TAKING THE STATE MCAP TEST, AS HAVE OTHER STUDENTS BEEN TAKING THE I-READY AS WELL.

STARTING MID-SEPTEMBER, THE STAFF A DES HAS BEEN RECOGNIZING DOLPHINS OF THE WEEK, WHICH WILL CONTINUE FOR MOST PART OF THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR.

UPCOMING FOR THE DOLPHINS INCLUDE FINISHING THEIR MCAP TESTING, WHICH ALL ARE EXCITED FOR.

MOVING TO RIDGELY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL LAST MONTH, FOURTH AND FIFTH GRADE STUDENTS BEGAN TO TAKE THEIR MCAPS STATE TESTS AS WELL.

STUDENTS ALSO WERE ABLE TO GET THEIR FALL PHOTOS TAKEN.

STARTING TODAY, THE BOOK FAIR HAS TRAVELED TO RES FOR STUDENTS TO GO AND BUY A BOOK FOR THEMSELVES.

ON OCTOBER 21ST, RIDGELY ELEMENTARY WILL BE ONE OF THE MANY SCHOOLS ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT'LL PARTICIPATE IN THE GREAT EARTHQUAKE SHAKEOUT, WHICH ALL STUDENTS AND STAFF ARE EXCITED FOR.

NOW TO GREENSBORO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

ALL THE STAFF ARE REALLY ENJOYING THE BRAND NEW BUILDING AND STUDENTS ARE ENJOYING SOME OF THE NEW FANCY ADDITIONS, LIKE CHOCOLATE MILK MACHINES, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS PRETTY COOL AND I'M JEALOUS. [LAUGHTER].

>> IT'S DELICIOUS [INAUDIBLE]

>> I'M JEALOUS. STATE OF THE ART CAFETERIA, WATER BOTTLE FILLERS, LOTS OF NEW BATHROOMS AND AN ELEVATOR.

UPCOMING FOR THE HORNETS INCLUDE GETTING THEIR NEW PLAYGROUND COMPLETE, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, ALL HAVE BEEN ENJOYING A LOT OF OUTDOOR RECESS UNDER THE CANOPY AND ON THE BLACK TOP.

BACK IN DENTON AT LOCKERMAN MIDDLE SCHOOL, EVERYONE, INCLUDING STUDENTS AND STAFF, ARE HAVING A GREAT YEAR SO FAR AND EVEN HAD THEIR FIRST INCENTIVE IN WHICH STUDENTS NEEDED TO EARN ENOUGH PAUSE ON THEIR PRIDE CARD TO HAVE AN OUTDOOR RECESS.

THE PBIS TEAM ALSO RECEIVE THEIR 2020, 2021 SCHOOL YEAR BADGES OF SUCCESS FOR THEIR GREAT EFFORTS.

LMS TEAM IS CONTINUING TO ADMINISTER THE FALL AND MCAPS AS WELL.

JUST RECENTLY, THE LMS STAFF AND STUDENTS CELEBRATED NATIONAL CUSTODIAN DAY IN WHICH JANITORS LOVED ALL OF THE APPRECIATION.

AT NORTH CAROLINA HIGH-SCHOOL LAST MONTH STAFF AND STUDENTS CELEBRATED HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH.

NCHS ALSO BEGAN STATE TESTING THROUGH TOMORROW, OCTOBER 5TH.

UPCOMING FOR THE BULLDOGS INCLUDE HOMECOMING WEEK STARTING TODAY, AND ENDING THIS SATURDAY WITH OUR HOMECOMING DANCE.

THE BULLDOG FOOTBALL TEAM IS HOSTING THE HOMECOMING AND SENIOR NIGHT GAME THIS FRIDAY, OCTOBER 8TH AT THE RIDGE.

ON OCTOBER 13TH, INTERIM GRADES WILL BE CAPTURED.

THERE IS NO SCHOOL ON OCTOBER 15TH AS THAT IS MESA DAY.

THE WEEK OF OCTOBER 18TH THROUGH THE 22ND, IT IS MARYLAND COLLEGE APPLICATION WEEK IN WHICH ALL SENIORS WILL TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF.

ON OCTOBER 19TH, CHESAPEAKE COLLEGE WILL BE HOLDING A DUAL ENROLLMENT INTERESTS MEETING FOR STUDENTS INTERESTED IN TAKING DUAL ENROLLMENT IN THE FUTURE.

ON OCTOBER 21ST, UNDERCLASSMEN PHOTOS WILL BE TAKEN AND ALSO FASFA NIGHT FOR SENIORS GOING TO COLLEGE SEEKING FINANCIAL AID.

A LOT HAS BEEN HAPPENING AT NCHS AND A LOT WILL BE HAPPENING THIS UPCOMING MONTH.

LASTLY, AT CCTC, TEACHERS HAVE BEEN RECOGNIZING AND HIGHLIGHTING STUDENTS WHO ARE R.E.A.D.Y ON THEIR FACEBOOK PAGE.

CHARACTER COUNT COACHES ALSO HAD BEEN ASSIGNED TO EACH CLASS, EITHER IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY WHO COME FROM THE WORKFORCE AND OUR POSITIVE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE [INAUDIBLE] OF STUDY STUDENTS ARE CONNECTED TO.

OVER ALL THE SCHOOLS IN WHICH I REPORT FOR HAVE HAD A GREAT FIRST MONTH OF SCHOOL AND HAVE GREAT ACTIVITIES PLANNED FOR THE NEXT MONTH. THANK YOU.

>> COULD YOU EXPLAIN WHAT R.E.A.D.Y MEANS?

>> I THINK THAT'S THEIR PBIS.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT STANDS FOR IT TO BE HONEST.

>> I DO [INAUDIBLE]

>> I THINK IT'S READY.

>> IT'S THEIR ACRONYM.

>> RESPONSIBLE.

>> YEAH [INAUDIBLE].

>> I'LL SAY RESPONSIBLE, ENTERTAINING, ARTSY, [LAUGHTER] DAD LIKE YOU.

>> WOULD YOU'RE LIKE ME, TO SHARE.

[LAUGHTER].

>> YES CORTNEY.

>> SO I'M AT THE SOCCER GAME RIGHT NOW [LAUGHTER].

BUT R.E.A.D.Y IS OUR PBIS MOTTO AND WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THAT TONIGHT.

BUT JUST LITTLE PREVIEW, R.E.A.D.Y MEANS RESPECTFUL, EMPLOYABLE, AWARE, DEPENDABLE, AND YOU RUN YOU.

SO WE RECOGNIZE STUDENTS AND STAFF FOR SHOWING THOSE TRAITS EVERYDAY.

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>> WHAT'S THE SCORE IN THE GAME.

>> WELL, LISTEN, I'M A NORTH DORCHESTER HIGH SCHOOL PARENT AND WE'RE HERE IN NORTH CAROLINE HIGH SCHOOL AND I'M JUST GOING TO SAY, I'M NOT A HAPPY MAMA RIGHT NOW.

THE BULLDOGS ARE WINNING 4-0, BUT I CONSIDER IT A WIN ANYWAYS, BECAUSE I'VE KNOWN THESE KIDS FOR A LONG TIME ON THE BULLDOGS TEAM, SO IT'S ALL GOOD THEY ARE DOING GREAT.

>> MODERN TECHNOLOGY THANK YOU FOR PIPING IN [LAUGHTER].

>> I MISSED THAT. SORRY.

>> THERE WE GO. DO WE HAVE SOME [INAUDIBLE] WE HAVE ZAHID ON THE LINE.

[NOISE]

>> GOOD EVENING TO ALL MEMBERS OF BOARD.

STARTING WITH FEDERALSBURG ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, LAST MONTH THEY HAD MCAP FALL TESTING AND THEIR LIBRARIAN, BRITTANY SIMMONS WAS RECOGNIZED AS MARYLAND LIBRARIAN OF THE YEAR 2021/2022, AND COLONEL RICHARDSON MIDDLE SCHOOL, THEY HAD SCHOOL SERVICE LEARNING PROJECT TO SUPPORT CAROLINE COUNTY RECREATION AND PARKS LAST MONTH AND UPCOMING EVENTS ARE YEARBOOK COVER CONTEST WHICH IS ON OCTOBER 14 AND PBIS HALLOWEEN INCENTIVE ON OCTOBER 28.

PRESTON ELEMENTARY, THE UPCOMING EVENTS ARE : PRESTON VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL BE VISITING THE KINDERGARTEN CLASSES TO TELL THEM ABOUT ALL THE SAFETY PROTOCOLS FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS, WE CAN LEARN UP TO OCTOBER 5TH AND THEY WILL CELEBRATE NATIONAL SCHOOL LUNCH WEEK WHICH IS FROM OCTOBER 11TH-14TH.

NATIONAL SCHOOL BUS SAFETY WEEK WITH TREATS FOR AMAZING BUS DRIVERS, WHICH IS ON OCTOBER 18-22, AND THEN THEY WILL ALSO BE CELEBRATING RED RIBBON WEEK AND DRUG USE PREVENTION FROM OCTOBER 25-29TH.

LASTLY, THEY WILL CELEBRATE HALLOWEEN WITH STUDENTS DRESSED IN COSTUMES ON OCTOBER 29 WITH ALL THEIR TEACHERS WHICH IS CRITICAL.

FOR COLONEL RICHARDSON HIGH SCHOOL, WE HAVE A BUNCH OF COLLEGE REPRESENTATIVE VISITS GOING ON RIGHT NOW FOR THEM, AND UPCOMING EVENTS WHICH STARTED TODAY WAS: COLLEGE APPLICATION WEEK FOR ALL THE SENIORS UNTIL FRIDAY, AND THEY HAVE A HOMECOMING WEEKEND GAME AT 6 PM ON OCTOBER 8, FOLLOWED BY PARADE AT 10 AM ON OCTOBER 9 AND DANCE AT 07:00 PM.

THEY ARE ALSO GOING TO BE HAVING ICE CREAM FROM PBIS TEAM TO STUDENTS THAT EARNED TOUGH TAGS DURING THE MONTH OF OCTOBER AND SEPTEMBER, WHICH IS ON OCTOBER 20TH.

THANK YOU. [BACKGROUND]

>> MOVING INTO THE CONCERNED AGENDA, WE HAVE MINUTES.

NO, WAIT [BACKGROUND] FINANCE REPORT, I'M SORRY.

[LAUGHTER] SORRY ABOUT THAT [OVERLAPPING].

>> JUST GET THE FINANCE REPORT.

[LAUGHTER].

GOOD EVENING PRESIDENT NEWCOMB, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

I COME BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING TO PRESENT OUR REVAMPED FINANCE [NOISE] REPORT.

>> OH, I CAN READ THIS ONE.

>> YES [LAUGHTER] I SPENT SOME TIME PUTTING THIS TOGETHER WITH THE HOPES THAT IT'S EASIER TO READ AND UNDERSTAND FOR THOSE [OVERLAPPING] MOST PEOPLE AREN'T NUMBER-CRUNCHERS LIKE ME, THAT'S THEREIN.

I THOUGHT WITH A TWO-PAGE SUMMARY REPORT AS OPPOSED TO THE SIX PAGE REPORT THAT WE USED TO HAVE, THEY GOT DUMPED OUT OF OUR FINANCE SOFTWARE THAT YOU DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU ARE READING.

HOPEFULLY NOW, WHEN I PRESENT EVERY MONTH, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO FOLLOW ALONG.

SINCE IT IS THE FIRST BOARD MEETING WITH OUR FINANCE REPORT THIS FISCAL YEAR, I JUST WANT TO BRIEFLY WALK YOU THROUGH AND REVIEW WHAT EACH COLUMN ON THIS REPORT REPRESENTS.

ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, THIS IS BASICALLY THE CHART OF ACCOUNTS, AND WE FOLLOW THE STATE CHART OF ACCOUNTS AS OUTLINED IN THE MSDE FINANCIAL REPORTING MANUAL.

ON THE FAR FAR LEFT, THE NUMBERS IN FURTHER, DESCRIPTIONS IN BOLD ARE WHAT MSDE CALLS THE CATEGORIES AND BASICALLY,

[00:35:04]

EACH CATEGORY IS YOUR DEPARTMENT AREA.

SOME DEPARTMENTS DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THEIR OWN CATEGORY, FOR EXAMPLE, TECHNOLOGY, THAT JUST FALLS UNDER INSTRUCTION.

THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT FALL UNDER THE INSTRUCTION REALM, BUT BASICALLY ON THE BUSINESS SIDE OF THE HOUSE AND THE SPECIAL ED SIDE OF THE HOUSE, THAT STUFF HAS PARSED OUT INTO ITS OWN CATEGORY.

THE NEXT COLUMN IS WHAT MSDE CALLS THE OBJECT, AND MOST OF THESE SHOULD BE SELF-EXPLANATORY, SALARIES AND WAGES, CONTRACTED SERVICES, SUPPLIES, MATERIALS, OTHER CHARGES, EQUIPMENT.

THE ONE THAT MAY NOT BE SELF-EXPLANATORY IS WHAT'S CALLED TRANSFERS, AND YOU'LL SEE TRANSFERS UNDER OTHER INSTRUCTIONAL COST AND ALSO UNDER SPECIAL ED.

TRANSFERS ARE WHERE WE BASICALLY TRANSFER MONEY TO OTHER COUNTIES OR AGENCIES LIKE NON PUBLIC SCHOOLS FOR STUDENTS, FOR EXAMPLE, OUT OF COUNTY PLACEMENTS, THIS IS WHERE CAROLINE COUNTY STUDENTS ARE PLACED IN OTHER DISTRICTS BY A PUBLIC AGENCY.

WE HAVE TO PAY THE OTHER DISTRICT THE COST OF EDUCATING THAT STUDENT.

NOW THIS CAN ALSO BE VICE VERSA, OTHER COUNTIES MAY BE SENDING STUDENTS ARE WAY, THEN THEY HAVE TO PAY US.

THIS LINE ITEM IS ALWAYS AN UNKNOWN, WE DON'T KNOW FROM YEAR TO YEAR IF WE'RE GOING TO END UP PAYING MORE THAN WHAT WE RECEIVE, OR SOMETIMES WE ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY.

IN YEARS WHERE WE MAKE MONEY, I JUMP FOR JOY, YES, WE MADE MONEY THIS YEAR.

[LAUGHTER] THAT EXCITES ME.

THE SPECIAL EDUCATION TRANSFER LINE ITEM, THAT'S FURTHER NON-PUBLIC PLACEMENTS.

THESE ARE THE STUDENTS WHO CANNOT BE SERVED BY CAROLINE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND THEY'RE PLACED IN A NON-PUBLIC SCHOOLS SUCH AS THE BENEDICTINE.

THESE COSTS ARE SHARED WITH A FORMULA.

THE STATE PICKS UP PART OF THE COST AND THEN THE COUNTY HAS TO PICK A PART OF THE COST.

THIS ALSO WHERE WE PAY FOR THE HYBRIDS PER GRAM, WHICH WE HAVE AT A FEW OF OUR SCHOOLS.

MOVING ALONG TO THE NEXT COLUMN.

THE NEXT COLUMN IS THE BUDGET, WHICH IS THE UNRESTRICTED OPERATING BUDGET THAT WAS APPROVED AT THE JUNE BOARD MEETING.

JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY OF OUR GRANTS, THIS IS UNRESTRICTED MONEY.

WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY A 100 RESTRICTED GRANTS THAT WE ACCOUNT FOR SEPARATELY, BUT THEY ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THESE FIGURES.

THE NEXT COLUMN IS SEPTEMBER EXPENDITURES, THAT'S PRETTY SELF-EXPLANATORY, THAT'S JUST EXPENDITURES FOR THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER.

THE NEXT COLUMN IS THE ENCUMBRANCES.

ENCUMBRANCES INCLUDE TWO THINGS, THEY ARE OUTSTANDING PURCHASE ORDERS WHICH ARE ON THE BOOKS FOR GOODS AND SERVICES, WHERE WE PLACED AN ORDER AND WE HAVEN'T NECESSARILY RECEIVED THOSE GOODS OR SERVICES YET, IT'S LIKE A PLACED ORDER SO WE KNOW THAT MONEY HAS BEEN OBLIGATED BUT WE HAVEN'T EXACTLY SPEND IT YET.

ALSO INCLUDED IN ENCUMBRANCES, OUR SALARY ENCUMBRANCES, AND THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE HUGE ENCUMBRANCES FOR THE SALARY AND WAGE LINE ITEMS. WHAT WE DO IS WE ACCOUNT FOR WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST US TO PAY EMPLOYEES FOR THE REST OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

INCLUDED IN SALARY ENCUMBRANCES ARE, IN THE CASE OF A 10 MONTH, 10 AND HALF MONTH, OR AN 11 MONTH EMPLOYEE, WHO ELECTS TO GET 24 PAYS, WE GO AHEAD AND ACCOUNT FOR THE COST OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PAY THEM IN JULY AND AUGUST, BECAUSE TECHNICALLY THAT SHOULD BE CHARGED TO THIS FISCAL YEAR.

BECAUSE BY JUNE 30 THEY WILL HAVE EARNED THIS WAGES SO WE NEED TO ACCOUNT FROM THESE BOOKS.

THE NEXT COLUMN IS YOUR YEAR-TO-DATE EXPENDITURES, WHICH IS YOUR TOTAL EXPENDITURES SO FAR FROM JULY THROUGH SEPTEMBER.

THE FINAL COLUMN IS YOUR AVAILABLE BALANCE, WHICH JUST TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE BUDGET MINUS THE ENCUMBRANCES, MINUS THE YEAR TO DATE EXPENDITURES, AND SHOWS THE BALANCE THAT YOU ARE LEFT WITH.

AS YOU LOOK DOWN THE TWO-PAGE REPORT NOW THAT YOU CAN SEE WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT AS OPPOSED TO THE TWO PAGE WITH SMALL MICROSCOPIC NUMBERS WHERE YOU CAN'T EXACTLY SEE WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE SOME NEGATIVE NUMBERS.

I JUST WANT TO EXPLAIN WHY THERE ARE NEGATIVE NUMBERS AND A FEW OF THE LINE ITEMS. FIRST OF ALL, SOME OF THE NEGATIVE NUMBERS ARE DUE TO UNEXPECTED EMERGENCIES THAT CAME UP AFTER THE BUDGET WAS DEVELOPED AND APPROVED. THIS HAPPENS.

IT CAN BE ANYTHING, EMERGENCIES POP UP.

WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THE BUDGET IS APPROVED AND DUE EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

ALSO, I WILL SAY THERE ARE SOME AREAS WHERE WE NEED TO REALIGN THE BUDGET AND CLEAN IT UP A LITTLE BIT FOR DECISIONS OR CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE.

[00:40:01]

ONE OF THOSE BEING UNDER PUPIL PERSONNEL SERVICES, YOU'LL SEE WHERE CONTRACTED SERVICES IS COMPLETELY OUT OF WHACK.

THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE WE NOW CONTRACT OUT FOR ALTERNATIVE SCHOOL PROGRAM.

WE CONTRACT OUT WITH HYBRIDS, WHEREAS PREVIOUSLY IT WAS HANDLED INTERNALLY.

WE WERE PAYING A SALARY FOR THE ALTERNATIVE PROGRAM.

WE WERE PAYING A TEACHER, WHEREAS NOW IT'S A CONTRACT OF SERVICE.

AS WE DEVELOP FY2023 BUDGET, WE JUST NEED TO CLEAN.

IT'S EXPLAINABLE. THERE'S A LOGICAL REASON.

WE JUST NEED TO CLEAN IT UP A LITTLE BIT.

ALSO, THIS IS THE TIME OF THE YEAR WHERE I DOUBLE-CHECK ALL OF THE SALARY CODES.

IF THERE IS A BREACH IN THE AREA OF SALARIES AND WAGES, I'M HOPING THAT WHEN I GET A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THEM NEXT MONTH, SOME OF THOSE AVERAGES AND SALARIES AND WAGES WILL BE CLEANED UP ONCE I'VE GOTTEN EVERYBODY CODED PROPERLY.

BUT OVER ALL IN SALARIES AND WAGES, YOU CAN SEE WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF MONEY LEFTOVER IN INSTRUCTIONAL SALARY LINE ITEM.

I THINK IT'S JUST A MATTER OF CLEANING THINGS UP AND GETTING EVERYTHING CODED CORRECTLY.

THE MOST IMPORTANT NUMBERS ON THIS IS OUR BOTTOM LINE AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE AN AVAILABLE BALANCE OF $22.5 MILLION AND BASICALLY, WE ARE THREE MONTHS INTO THE FISCAL YEAR AND WE'VE SPENT APPROXIMATELY 15 PERCENT OF OUR BUDGET.

OVERALL, WE'RE IN GREAT SHAPE.

WE'RE IN SOUND FINANCIAL SHAPE, AND WE'RE EXACTLY WHERE WE SHOULD BE FOR THIS TIME OF THE YEAR.

>> THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> BECAUSE THIS IS MEANINGFUL.

>> WELCOME.

>> REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT.

>> JUST TO, KIND OF A QUESTION, MORE OF A COMMENT.

THE ENCUMBRANCE PART WAS SALARIES [INAUDIBLE] THAT CAN GET PEOPLE WONDERING BUT WHY YOU HAVEN'T SPENT THAT, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BUT PART OF THE REGION, YOU'LL DO THAT IS SO THAT DON'T THINK THERE'S A BIG NUMBER OF EXTRA MONEY THAT, LOOK AT ALL THAT EXTRA MONEY WE HAVE.

WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? IT'S LIKE IN YOUR PERSONAL LIFE, IF YOU HAVE A CAR PAYMENT AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE PAYING THAT EVERY MONTH, YOU NEED YOUR OWN PERSONAL BUDGET KNOW, 12 TIMES THAT CAR PAYMENT EVERY YEAR YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO SET ASIDE FOR EVERY MONTH.

WE'RE GOING TO SET ASIDE THAT MONEY.

IT'S ENCUMBERED YOU TO SET ASIDE.

>> THAT'S A VERY GOOD WAY OF LOOKING AT IT.

[OVERLAPPING] I APPRECIATE YOU.

>> I JUST WANTED ALSO COMPLIMENT YOU ON MAKING SOME CHANGES AND HOW THIS WAS DONE AND IDENTIFYING SOME AREAS THAT NEED TO BE CLEANED UP LIKE THE BRACKETED BIG NEGATIVE AREAS AND THAT JUST DEMONSTRATES THAT YOU AREN'T JUST LOOKING AT THIS SAME OLD WAY.

THAT YOU'RE TAKING A FRESH SET OF EYES AND A FRESH SET EYES THAT WORKED WITH US FOR A GOOD WHILE.

LEST YOU FORGET MY COMPLIMENTS TO YOU AND THE SUPERINTENDENT TO LET YOU DO THAT.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> IRENE I WANT TO THANK YOU ALSO FOR THE TIME AND EFFORT YOU'VE PUT IN MAKING THIS MUCH MORE CLEAR FOR THOSE OF US WHO AREN'T NUMBER FRIEND CHEERS. THANK YOU.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> WE'LL CONTINUE TO LAY ON GAVI ACCOLADES AND I'M GOING TO ASK YOU A QUESTION AND I'M NOT SURE.

HOPEFULLY IT'S NOT PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT YOU MENTIONED THE ITEMS ON THE LEFT ARE THE CATEGORIES AS OUTLINED BY MSDE?

>> CORRECT.

>> DID YOU SAY CATEGORY, WHAT'S THE HEADINGS? WHAT DID YOU CALL THEM?

>> THE CATEGORIES AND OBJECTS.

>> CATEGORIES ARE THE BOLD ONES AND THE OBJECTS ARE THE ONES UNDER THAT, CORRECT?

>> YES.

>> THERE'S HOW MANY THERE? JUST BECAUSE THIS IS A GOOD NUMBER. I DON'T KNOW.

SAY WHAT, BUT WAS PART OCCUR WHEN WE'RE MOVING FORWARD, THAT IS GOING EXPONENTIALLY.

HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THAT INFORMATION, AND YOU'VE BEEN IN NEWS DISCUSSIONS, CORRECT?

>> YES.

>> THAT COLUMN TO THE LEFT, FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING TO MY OWN BENEFIT AND THE BOARD, YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON WHAT CAROLINE HAS IT GETS IMPLEMENTED, WHAT THAT COLUMN, THOSE LISTINGS ON THE LEFT IS GOING TO DO FROM YOUR NICE TWO-PAGE REPORT.

>> THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION AND THE LISTING ON THE LEFT THAT WILL STAY THE SAME.

WHAT'S GOING TO CHANGE IS BECAUSE EVERYTHING'S GOING TO ROLL UP INTO THESE CATEGORIES AND PROJECTS, EVERYTHING WILL ROLL UP INTO THESE BUT WHAT'S GOING TO CHANGE IS THE LEVEL OF DETAIL BECAUSE UNDER THESE, SO SAY SALARIES AND WAGES.

WE HAVE A TEACHER LINE ITEM.

WE HAVE AN INSTRUCTIONAL ASSISTANT LINE ITEM.

WE HAVE DIFFERENT LINE NAMES.

WHAT NOW WITH CAROLINE, WITH THE MONEY FOLLOWING THE STUDENT, 75 PERCENT OF THE MONEY HAS TO FOLLOW THE STUDENT.

FOR EVERY LINE ITEM, WE NOW NEED TO BREAK THAT DOWN BY SCHOOL, BY LOCATION.

>> FOR EACH POSITION?

[00:45:03]

FOR EACH SCHOOL, FOR EACH OF THE CATEGORIES YOU HAVE ALREADY SUBCATEGORIES YOU ALREADY HAVE.

>> BUT IT'S THE LEVEL OF DETAIL IS GOING TO GET GREATER AND EVEN SAY MAINTENANCE.

WHEN MAINTENANCE BUYS APART TO FIX SOMETHING THAT I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO THE MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT AND I SAID WHEN YOU CALL IN THESE ORDERS YOU NEED TO SAY THE SCHOOL SO WHEN WE GET AN INVOICE, IT HAS THE SCHOOL ON IT SO WE CAN CODE THAT TO THE SCHOOL LEVEL BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY STARTED WORKING ON THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TRY AND TO GET US THERE TO THAT 75 PERCENT THAT FOLLOWS THE STUDENT.

TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY, IT'S A CHANGE OF CULTURE BECAUSE BEFORE MAINTENANCE OR EVEN TECHNOLOGY, WE JUST CODED TO ONE ACCOUNT, THAT'S SYSTEM WIDE AND NOW WE HAVE TO TRULY.

>> THE SYSTEM NEEDS A SCHOOL BUS.

>> WELL, THE SCHOOL BUS IS TOUGH TO ALLOCATE AT A,.

>> WHEN IT COVERS THREE DIFFERENT SCHOOLS.

>> IT CAN BE NORTH COUNTY, SOUTH COUNTY. IT'S COVERING SEVERAL.

THAT'S WHY THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO FALL INTO THAT 25 PERCENT THAT WE CAN'T ALLOCATE BUT BECAUSE INSTANCES LIKE THAT FALL ON TO THAT 25 PERCENT THAT WE CAN'T ALLOCATE, WE HAVE TO ALLOCATE EVEN THE LITTLEST OF THINGS THAT ARE COMING THROUGH.

IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE AN OVERHAUL OF THE BUDGET BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE LINE ITEMS ARE SYSTEM WIDE AND I'M JUST GOING TO HAVE TO GO IN AND BREAK IT DOWN AND SET IT UP IN OUR FINANCE SOFTWARE AND TRAIN EVERYBODY.

YOU HAVE TO CODE IT TO THE SCHOOL LEVEL.

I'VE ALREADY STARTED WORKING ON IT BECAUSE WHEN THEY WANT THAT DATA, THEY'RE GOING TO WANT IT AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO BACK IN TIME AND TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT.

I'M TRYING TO STAY ON TOP OF IT.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT TOO.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> THAT'S ONE OF THE TRAININGS THAT I WENT THROUGH, YOU CLAIM LIKE IF YOU BUY LIGHT BULB AND IF YOU SPOILT AND IT USED TO BE NO PROBLEM.

NOW YOU HAVE TO SAVE SIX TIMES FOR THAT SCHOOL.

THAT TIME I KNEW BUSINESS.

>> IT IS.

>> FOR TOILET PAPER, LIGHT BULB, THAT ANYTHING, PENCIL, PEN, SOAP.

YOU'RE GOING TO NEED EXTRA HELP?

>> YES. [LAUGHTER]

>> BUT HE VOLUNTEERED? [LAUGHTER].

>> YES. SURE. NO PROBLEM.

[LAUGHTER]

>> THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER?.

>> THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS MAKE SENSE.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> YES.

>> CAN I JUST [OVERLAPPING].

>> SURE.

>> AED IS INCLUDED IN THE TRAINING SO THE TEACHERS WERE TRAINED TO BE ABLE TO TRAIN FOR CPR, AED, AND FIRST-AID.

>> THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME. [OVERLAPPING]

>> IT WAS GOOD. IT WAS SURPRISING TO ME ALL THE YEARS YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT CPR, BUT IT SOUNDED LIKE IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE AED THERE THEN YOU GET A LOT BETTER CHANCES WITH THE AED.

THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR. THANK YOU FOR FOLLOWING UP ON THAT.

NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO CONSENT AGENDA.

[3. Consent Agenda]

THANK YOU. BOARD MEMBERS, WE HAVE THREE THINGS UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT.

WE HAVE THESE MEETING MINUTES FROM THE 7TH, MEETING MINUTES FROM THE 21ST, AND THEN PERSONNEL.

DID ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR CORRECTIONS ON SEPTEMBER 7TH MINUTES?

>> NO.

>> HEARING NONE, WE'LL SAY.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR CORRECTIONS ON THE 21ST MINUTES?

>> NOPE.

>> HEARING NONE.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO PERSONNEL.

>> GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT NEWCOMB, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, DR. SIMMONS.

I'M HERE THIS EVENING TO PRESENT THE PERSONNEL AGENDA WITH AGENDUM FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND CONSENT.

THERE ARE TOTAL OF THREE LEAVE OF ABSENCES AND ONE TEACHER APPOINTMENT TO REGULAR CONTRACT.

[LAUGHTER] [INAUDIBLE].

>> YOU'RE SO CALM.

>> I KNOW. [LAUGHTER]

>> WE'LL SHORTLIST TONIGHT.

ALL MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PERSONNEL ITEMS?

>> IT'S NICE TO SEE THAT NOBODY'S [OVERLAPPING]

>> WELL, THERE IT IS.

>> THANK YOU. [NOISE]

>> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> THAT'S AWESOME. [LAUGHTER] YOU'VE ACTUALLY HEARD SOMEBODY.

>> SEE. WE'RE GETTING THERE.

WE'RE GETTING THERE. [LAUGHTER]

>> ALL RIGHT. BOARD MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA? [INAUDIBLE]

>> MOTION BY MRS. DIGIACOMO.

>> I'LL SECOND.

>> SECOND.

>> SECOND BY MR. BARTON, AND MRS [INAUDIBLE] TEAMING AGAIN.

[LAUGHTER] ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU SIR.

>> ALL RIGHT. WE'VE GOT SOME RECOGNITIONS TONIGHT.

[4. Recognitions]

ALL OUR SCHOOLS HAVE BEEN ON THEIR BEST BEHAVIOR, APPARENTLY.

>> GOOD EVENING MR. NEWCOMB, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

IF THERE WAS EVER A TIME TO RECOGNIZE THE EFFORTS OF OUR SCHOOL'S PBIS TEAMS,

[00:50:04]

THAT TIME WOULD BE FOR THE 2020-2021 SCHOOL YEAR.

OUR SCHOOL DESERVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE CELEBRATED, RECOGNIZED FOR THE HARD WORK AND INNOVATION THEY HAD BEEN INVOLVED WITH DURING THE 20-21 SCHOOL YEAR AS THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED CREATIVE WAYS TO LEVERAGE THE FRAMEWORK OF PBIS TO HELP SUPPORT THE STUDENTS, STAFF, AND FAMILIES.

NOW, IF YOU COULD RECALL IN THE PAST, SCHOOLS WERE ABLE TO APPLY FOR GOLD, SILVER, AND BRONZE RECOGNITION.

SCHOOL-WIDE, 20-21 WAS A VERY DIFFERENT YEAR AND IT'S ONLY FITTING THAT RECOGNITION BOOKS DIFFERENT AS WELL.

KEEP IN MIND IF THE PBIS TEAM APPLY FOR RECOGNITION DURING THE 19-20 SCHOOL YEAR AND RECEIVE BRONZE, SILVER, AND GOLD LEVEL RECOGNITION, THEY MAINTAIN THAT STATUS.

THIS YEAR THAT WAS DIFFERENT.

THEY AWARDED BADGES.

THE RANGE OF BADGES ALIGNED WITH THE CORE FEATURES OF TIER 1 AND TIER 2 PBIS, POSITIVE BEHAVIOR INTERVENTIONS AND SUPPORTS, WHICH IS A FRAMEWORK.

TEAMS COULD APPLY FOR ONE OR MORE BADGES.

THERE WERE MULTIPLE OPTIONS FOR HOW TO EARN EACH BADGE.

LET ME JUST TELL YOU WHAT THE BADGES WERE.

ONE WAS CALLED TEAMWORK MAKES THE DREAM WORK.

THIS BADGE PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO HIGHLIGHT HOW THE PBIS TEAM, WHETHER IN ITS EXISTING OR MODIFIED COMPOSITION CONTINUED WITH TEAM MEETINGS, WHETHER THEY BE VIRTUAL OR IN PERSON DURING THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC.

THEN WE HAVE THE POWER OF TEACHING BADGE.

THIS BADGE PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO HIGHLIGHT HOW THE PBIS TEAM WAS INNOVATIVE IN LEVERAGING, TEACHING AND ACKNOWLEDGMENT STRATEGIES TO SUPPORT STAFF AND STUDENTS DURING THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC.

OUR CLASSROOM OUR COMMUNITY IS THE THIRD BADGE.

THIS BADGE PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO HIGHLIGHT HOW TEACHERS AND STAFF WERE INNOVATIVE IN PIVOTING EFFECTIVE CLASSROOM PRACTICES AND PROCEDURES TO SUPPORT REMOTE, HYBRID AND IN-PERSON LEARNING DURING THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC.

THE FOURTH BADGE, COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS.

THIS BADGE PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO HIGHLIGHT HOW THE PBIS TEAM HAS INTENTIONALLY ENGAGED FAMILIES, STUDENTS, COMMUNITY AND FACULTY IN THE DEVELOPMENT AND OR THE MODIFICATION OF PBIS.

THE FIFTH BADGE, INSTRUCTIONAL AND RESTORATIVE RESPONDING.

THIS BADGE PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO HIGHLIGHT HOW THE PBIS TEAM WAS INNOVATIVE IN THE USE OF PROACTIVE INSTRUCTIONAL ANNUAL RESTORATIVE RESPONSE PROCEDURES DURING THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC.

THE SIXTH BADGE DATA ON MY MIND, THIS BADGE PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO HIGHLIGHT HOW THE PBIS TEAM HAS CONTINUED TO REVIEW HIGH FIDELITY IMPLEMENTATION AND VALUED OUTCOMES DURING REMOTE, HYBRID AND IN-PERSON LEARNING DURING THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC.

FINALLY, THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL BADGE OF TIER 2 BADGE.

THIS BADGE PROVIDES TEAMS AND OPPORTUNITY TO HIGHLIGHT HOW THE PBIS TEAM HAS CONTINUED PROVIDING TIER 2 SUPPORTS TO STUDENTS DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR.

OUR SCHOOLS HAVE DONE VERY WELL IN THE PAST.

THIS YEAR THEY DID VERY WELL AS WELL.

THEY WENT ALL OUT AND APPLIED FOR THESE BADGES.

I'D LIKE TO START WITH RECOGNIZING CAROLINE CAREER AND TECHNOLOGY CENTER TO THOSE TWO, MRS ANDY AND TEAM LEADER ERIC COOK.

THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE BADGES LOOK LIKE BEFORE THEY WERE BANNERS, NOW THAT SAYS, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE GOING TO DISPLAY THESE, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE LIKE ON PARCHMENT FRAMED.

CAROLINE CAREER AND TECHNOLOGY CENTER HAD BEEN GOLD IN THE PAST AND THEY WERE AWARDED FOR TEAMWORK MAKES THE DREAM WORK, THE POWER OF TEACHING, OUR CLASSROOM OUR COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS, INSTRUCTIONAL AND RESTORATIVE RESPONDING, DATA ON MY MIND AND ALSO THEY WENT FOR TIER 2 AND THEY'VE GOT ALL BADGES.

VERY GOOD TO THEM, KUDOS TO THEM.

>> GREAT JOB.

>> YES. VERY GOOD.

>> LET ME ALSO POINT OUT, CCTC IS A TECH SCHOOL AND THERE ARE NOT MANY TECH SCHOOLS IN THE STATE OF MARYLAND.

I KNOW NONE ON THE EASTERN SHORE THAT DO PBIS.

THEY HAVE TAKEN THEIR MOTTO READY TO A NEW LEVEL.

THE NEXT SCHOOL, COLONEL RICHARDSON HIGH SCHOOL, WHO HAD ALSO BEEN GOLD IN 2019 AND 2020.

THEY WERE AWARDED SIX BADGES : THE TEAMWORK MAKES THE DREAM WORK, THE POWER OF TEACHING, OUR CLASSROOM OUR COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS, INSTRUCTIONAL AND RESTORATIVE RESPONDING, DATA ON MY MIND.

VERY GOOD FOR THEM. I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE DR. VONDENBOSCH AND MR. MIKE SOSSA, TEAM LEADER FOR THAT.

COLONEL RICHARDSON MIDDLE, WHO HAD BEEN SILVER IN 2019-2020,

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DR. HOLLOWAY AND MRS. JENNIFER BLUNT, TEAM LEADER, WERE AWARDED FOR TEAM MAKES THE DREAM WORK, THE POWER OF TEACHING, OUR CLASSROOM OUR COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS, INSTRUCTIONAL AND RESTORATIVE RESPONDING, AND DATA ON MY MIND.

ALSO, DENTON ELEMENTARY, WHICH HAD BEEN GOLD AND THE 2019-2020 SCHOOL YEAR, MRS. SUSAN MCCANDLESS AND TEAM LEADERS, MRS CHRISTINA GORSUCH AND EMILY GLOVER.

THEY WERE AWARDED THE SIX BADGES PLUS THE TIER 2, TEAM MAKES THE DREAM WORK, THE POWER OF TEACHING, OUR CLASSROOM OUR COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS, INSTRUCTIONAL AND RESTORATIVE RESPONDING, DATA ON MY MIND AND TIER 2.

KUDOS TO THEM. VERY GOOD JOB.

GREENSBORO, WHO HAD BEEN GOLD PREVIOUSLY.

THEY WERE AWARDED FOR THEIR TIER 2 EFFORTS.

THAT'S MRS. DAWN SWANN AND MRS. COLLEEN MACFARLAND TEAM LEADER.

THEN WE HAVE LOCKERMAN MIDDLE SCHOOL HAD BEEN BRONZE IN THE PAST.

THEY WERE AWARDED FOR TEAMWORK MAKES THE DREAM WORK, AND THE POWER OF TEACHING.

THEY WERE ALSO AWARDED FOR DATA ON MY MIND AND FOR TIER 2 INTERVENTIONS.

FINALLY, RIDGELY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WHO I CALL THE GRANDMOTHER OF PBIS BECAUSE THEY WERE THE FIRST SCHOOL IN CAROLINE COUNTY IN 2001 THAT STARTED WITH PBIS.

THEY HAD BEEN GOLD IN THE PAST, HAD BEEN GOLD FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

MR. LEE SUTTON AND MRS. ANNA BUFFENMYER TEAM LEADER.

THEY WERE WORRIED FOR TEAMWORK MAKES THE DREAM WORK, THE POWER OF TEACHING, OUR CLASSROOM OUR COMMUNITY, AND ALSO WENT FOR THE TIER 2 BADGE.

CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR TEAMS FOR A VERY FINE JOB.

THIS WAS VERY GRUELING ACTUALLY TO GO THROUGH ALL THIS AND SUBMIT THE CRITERIA BUT WE'RE VERY GLAD TO RECOGNIZE THEM FOR THEIR EFFORTS.

MAYBE RECOGNITION WILL COME BACK TO BANNERS NEXT YEAR.

[LAUGHTER] [BACKGROUND]

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THE SCHOOLS FOR THE HARD WORK.

IT IS APPRECIATED.

>> YES. THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOU WHO ARE ONLINE THERE WITH US AND FOR ALL YOUR EFFORTS.

>> THANKS FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN TO RECOGNIZING THE PBIS EFFORT.

>> THERE'S SO MANY. IT'S JUST ALMOST OVERWHELMING. IT'S TERRIFIC.

>> I'M TELLING YOU IT WAS A LOT OF DATA TO GET IN.

[LAUGHTER] I WAS GLAD WHEN IT WAS SUBMITTED. THANK YOU.

>> RECOGNITIONS FOR THE PBIS AND MOVING ON TO CITIZEN'S COMMENT.

[5. Citizens/Public Comments]

MS. BARRY, I THINK WE HAVE A FEW PEOPLE SUBMITTED EMAILS.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY LIVE?

>> WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SIGNED UP FOR LIVE, MR. NEWCOMB, BUT WE CAN HAVE FOUR WRITTEN EMAILS.

>> OKAY.

>> THE FIRST ONE IS FROM ANN MARIE BOUCHELLE.

"GOOD EVENING, BOARD MEMBERS AND DR. SIMMONS.

IT IS TIME FOR INSTRUCTIONAL ASSISTANTS' WAGES AND BENEFITS TO BE BROUGHT IN LINE WITH THAT OF OTHER AREAS OF THE COUNTRY.

ACCORDING TO ZIPRECRUITER, CAREERBLISS, AND GLASSDOOR, THE AVERAGE SALARIES FOR A PARAPROFESSIONAL EDUCATOR ARE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN OFFERED IN CAROLINE COUNTY.

THE COST OF LIVING IN MARYLAND IS THE SEVENTH HIGHEST IN THE COUNTRY.

PARAPROFESSIONALS IN CAROLINE COUNTY FREQUENTLY WORK TWO OR EVEN THREE JOBS TO MAKE ENDS MEET AND ARE FREQUENTLY UNSUCCESSFUL.

IT IS A FACT THAT ON WHAT WE MAKE, WE CANNOT HAVE A HOME, PURCHASE A CAR, HEALTH INSURANCE, LIFE INSURANCE, HOMEOWNER'S OR RENTER'S INSURANCE, AUTO INSURANCE, UTILITIES, FUEL, AND PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE.

I BELIEVE YOU-ALL WILL AGREE THAT THOSE ARE NECESSITIES.

I CHALLENGE YOU TO COME UP WITH A BUDGET THAT ALLOWS US THESE THINGS ON WHAT WE GET PAID.

WITHOUT AT LEAST ONE EXTRA SOURCE OF INCOME, WE CAN'T LIVE ON WHAT WE GET PAID.

IF WE WORKED 15 MINUTES LONGER EACH DAY, WE WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO PURCHASE HEALTH INSURANCE AT THE SAME RATE AS OTHER FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES.

I FREQUENTLY WORK THOSE EXTRA 15 MINUTES AND DON'T GET PAID FOR THEM.

I'M AWARE THAT SOME OF OUR INSTRUCTIONAL ASSISTANTS ARE EXPECTED TO ARRIVE EARLIER THAN OUR DAY CALLS FOR SO THAT WE CAN GET STUDENTS OFF OF BUSES AND THAT'S FINE AS LONG AS WE GET TO LEAVE ON TIME, WHICH WE USUALLY DON'T.

I CAN SAY THIS FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, WE ARE NOT ONLY AIDES TO OUR TEACHERS, BUT STUDENTS RELY ON US FOR SO MANY THINGS TO SUPPORT THEM MENTALLY, EMOTIONALLY, AND PHYSICALLY THROUGHOUT THEIR DAY.

WE ALSO HAVE TO UPHOLD THE SAME RULES AND PROFESSIONALISM THAT EVERY OTHER EMPLOYEE IN CCPS MUST UPHOLD,

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BUT WITH MUCH LESS PAY AND RECOGNITION.

I HAVE ALSO BEEN MADE AWARE THAT SOME OF OUR INSTRUCTIONAL ASSISTANTS ARE LEAVING THEIR JOBS BECAUSE OF THE LOW WAGES AND LACK OF BENEFITS.

IT'S A SAD SHAME WHEN YOU GET QUALITY EMPLOYEES WHO OTHERWISE LOVED THEIR JOBS BUT ARE FORCED TO QUIT BECAUSE OF THIS.

I THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND CONSIDERATION IN HELPING YOUR SUPPORT STAFF".

THE SECOND ONE IS FROM NADINE GLASS, "THIS IS MY SIXTH YEAR WORKING AS AN INSTRUCTIONAL ASSISTANT HERE IN CAROLINE COUNTY.

I'M WRITING TO ASK YOU TO PLEASE RECONSIDER WAGES AND BENEFITS FOR YOUR INSTRUCTIONAL ASSISTANTS.

I WORK VERY HARD AT MY JOB.

I AM USUALLY AT MY JOB BEFORE MY REQUIRED TIME AND I USUALLY HAVE TO STAY LONGER THAN MY REQUIRED TIME BECAUSE MY AFTERNOON DUTY HASN'T FINISHED YET.

INSTRUCTIONAL ASSISTANTS ONLY GET HALF BENEFITS BECAUSE WE DO NOT WORK THE EXTRA 15 MINUTES THAT TEACHERS ARE REQUIRED TO BE AT SCHOOL.

I DON'T KNOW OF A SINGLE IA WHO WOULDN'T BE WILLING TO PUT IN THOSE EXTRA 15 MINUTES A DAY TO RECEIVE FULL BENEFITS.

MOST ARE ALREADY WORKING THOSE HOURS AND JUST NOT GETTING PAID FOR IT OR RECEIVING FULL BENEFITS.

OUR PAY SCALE IS SO LOW ALREADY.

I COULD MAKE THE SAME WAGE WORKING AT MCDONALD'S WHERE I DON'T EVEN NEED TO USE MY BRAIN.

I HAVE TO USE MY BRAIN EVERY DAY AT WORK.

I HAVE TO ADJUST THE TEACHER'S LESSON TO MAKE IT UNDERSTANDABLE FOR THE STUDENTS I WORK WITH.

I HAVE TO THINK ON MY FEET BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANY PLANNING PERIOD EITHER.

THE ONLY BREAK I GET IS MY 30-MINUTE LUNCH.

I BELIEVE THAT IF I WORKED AT MCDONALD'S, I WOULD ALSO RECEIVE TWO 15-MINUTE BREAKS PLUS MY 30-MINUTE LUNCH AND THOSE BREAKS ARE SIMPLY THAT, A BREAK.

IF I WOULD GET PLANNING, I WOULD STILL BE WORKING ON PLANNING HOW I WAS GOING TO ADJUST THE LESSON FOR MY STUDENTS.

I HAVE TO WORK A SECOND JOB TO MAKE ENDS MEET.

I HAVE TUTORED STUDENTS AFTER MY REGULAR JOB CONCLUDED FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS TO MAKE ENDS MEET AND TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR MY HEALTH INSURANCE.

THIS YEAR I MOVED FROM SECONDARY HOURS TO ELEMENTARY HOURS SO I HAVE HAD TO QUIT MY SECOND JOB BECAUSE I WOULD BE STARTING MY SECOND JOB SO MUCH LATER.

I'VE ALSO ENCOUNTERED SOME HEALTH ISSUES I'M DEALING WITH THIS YEAR, WHICH IS ALSO PREVENTING ME FROM WORKING THAT SECOND JOB AND INCREASE IN PAY PLUS FULL BENEFITS WOULD CERTAINLY HELP ME AND MY FELLOW IAS.

IT WOULD ALSO HELP INSTRUCTIONAL ASSISTANTS WHO WANT TO COME TO WORK FOR CAROLINE COUNTY.

I KNOW IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO GET PEOPLE TO WANT TO WORK THROUGH THIS CURRENT SITUATION WE ARE GOING THROUGH.

FULL-TIME BENEFITS AND AN INCREASE IN WAGES TO PUT US ABOVE WALKING A MILE IN A SHOP LIKE MCDONALD'S WOULD BE WORTH YOUR INVESTMENT.

SOMETHING ELSE TO KEEP IN MIND AND RE-EVALUATE IS ON DELAYED OPENING DAYS FOR INCLEMENT WEATHER, YOUR IAS HAVE TO SHOW UP AT THEIR REGULARLY SCHEDULED TIME EVEN THOUGH ALL OF THE STUDENTS AND TEACHERS ARE HOME FOR THEIR SAFETY.

WE ARE ALLOWED TO ARRIVE 30 MINUTES LATE IF NEEDED, BUT ARE EXPECTED TO MAKE THAT UP.

SERIOUSLY, MY LIFE SHOULD BE JUST AS IMPORTANT AS STUDENTS AND TEACHERS AND BECAUSE THE TEACHERS AND STUDENTS ARE NOT AT SCHOOL, THERE'S NOTHING FOR ME TO DO EVEN WHEN I ARRIVE.

THERE ARE MANY DAYS I HAVE WHITE KNUCKLED IT TO WORK BECAUSE THE FOG WAS SO THICK I COULD HARDLY SEE THE CAR IN FRONT OF ME.

I'M LITERALLY RISKING MY LIFE GETTING TO WORK DURING INCLEMENT WEATHER, JUST TO ARRIVE AND SIT AT MY DESK WHEN JUST ABOUT EVERYONE ELSE AT MY JOB IS SAFE IN THEIR HOME.

THIS POLICY NEEDS SERIOUS CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO READ AND LISTEN TO MY LETTER." THE THIRD ONE IS FROM MISTY LARIMORE, "BOARD MEMBERS OF CCPS, CAROLINE COUNTY IA'S ARE UNFAIRLY UNDERPAID AND UNDERVALUED FOR OUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM BY THE BOARD.

ACCORDING TO CCPS JOB LISTING, IA START AT 13.40 PER HOUR.

ANNUAL SALARY WOULD BE 17,739.

BY THE WAY, I DO PERSONALLY NOT EARN 15,000 ANNUALLY.

THIS IS GROSSLY UNDER THE AVERAGE FOR MARYLAND ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL AVERAGE ON SALARY.COM.

MARYLAND AVERAGE IA SALARY IS 24,239.

THE RANGE FOR MARYLAND FALLS BETWEEN 22,459 TO 31,822.

A SECONDARY ENGLISH TEACHER, ACCORDING TO CCPS JOB LISTINGS, STARTS AT 47,975.

IAS WORK A PAID 33.75 HOURS A WEEK COMPARED TO A TEACHER'S PAID 37.5 HOURS A WEEK, AND THAT IS ONLY A 3.75 HOURS DIFFERENCE.

FOR THAT 3.75 HOURS DIFFERENCE, WE MAKE 63 PERCENT LESS THAN A TEACHER.

LIKE TEACHERS, IAS WORK UNPAID OVERTIME AND GO ABOVE AND BEYOND FOR THEIR SCHOOLS AND STUDENTS.

NEITHER GETS RECOGNITION FROM THE BOARD.

IAS WORK AT HOME TO LOOK OVER TEACHERS' LESSONS FOR THE FOLLOWING DAY TO MAP OUT HOW TO RETEACH TO OUR STUDENTS.

WE TRANSLATE DOCUMENTS AND ANCHOR CHARTS FOR EL STUDENTS.

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YES, TEACHERS MAY CUSTOMIZE LESSON PLANS FOR EL AND SPED STUDENTS, BUT IT IS A TEAM EFFORT BETWEEN TEACHERS AND IAS TO MAKE SURE THAT STUDENTS ARE ABSORBING AND LEARNING.

I LOVE WHAT I DO. I LOVE WORKING WITH MY COLLEAGUES AND STUDENTS.

I DEFINITELY DO NOT DO WHAT I DO FOR THE MONEY.

BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THE RECOGNITION FROM THE BOARD.

THE FACT THAT YOU WANT PASSIONATE, RELIABLE EMPLOYEES BUT DO NOT WANT TO PAY FOR THOSE QUALITIES, I FEEL, AND I KNOW MANY IAS FEEL THE SAME WAY THAT TO THE BOARD, WE DO NOT MATTER.

IAS ARE JUST AS IMPORTANT AS TEACHERS.

SUPPORT STAFF IS ALWAYS UNDERVALUED AND UNDERPAID AND THAT NEEDS TO STOP.

I PERSONALLY DO NOT THINK WE ARE ASKING FOR MUCH.

THE EXTRA 3.75 HOURS A WEEK WOULD MAKE US FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES AND ARRAYS.

THE LIVABLE WAGE AFFORDED TO MANY LOCAL FOOD SERVICE WORKERS SUCH AS MCDONALD'S AND ROYAL FARMS ARE STARTING AT $17 AN HOUR.

GIVING IAS THE EXTRA 15 MINUTES TO MAKE US FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES, PERSONAL AND SICK DAYS FOR FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES, AND AN HOURLY PAY RAISE OF $15 PER HOUR MAKING OUR ANNUAL MORE LIVABLE DOES NOT SEEM TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR." THE FINAL EMAIL IS FROM KEARA RAISIN, "I HAVE BEEN AN INSTRUCTIONAL ASSISTANT FOR CAROLINE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS FOR SEVEN YEARS.

I CHOSE TO COME TO THIS DISTRICT BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE I GREW UP AND I WANTED TO COME BACK TO A PLACE WHERE I HAD SO MUCH CHILDHOOD INFLUENCE.

WHEN I CAME TO THE DISTRICT, I HAD A FAMILY AND I FELT LIKE I GAINED WORK FAMILY.

EVEN THOUGH AT THE TIME THERE WERE POSITIVES TO BE FOUND, THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A NEGATIVE LOOMING IN THE BACKGROUND.

I AM UNABLE TO PROVIDE HEALTH INSURANCE FOR MY FAMILY DUE TO THE HIGH COST OF THESE BENEFITS.

TO THIS DAY, I'M STILL UNABLE TO PROVIDE INSURANCE FOR THE FAMILY THROUGH CAROLINE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

I AM REQUIRED TO WORK THREE JOBS IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THIS FOR MY FAMILY.

I ENJOY WORKING WITH THE STUDENTS AND ONE WILL NEVER HEAR COMPLAINTS FROM MYSELF ABOUT THE JOB DUTIES I'M ASSIGNED.

MORE AND MORE IS EXPECTED OF OUR ASSIGNMENTS YET NO ADDITIONAL BENEFITS ARE BEING OFFERED TO MAKE US FEEL APPRECIATED.

IT IS DISHEARTENING TO KNOW THAT INSTRUCTIONAL ASSISTANTS DO NOT ADEQUATELY GET COMPENSATED FOR THEIR HARD WORK AND THEIR DEDICATION TO THE JOB.

I WANT TO ADVOCATE FOR CHANGE.

IF IT ONLY TAKES 15 MINUTES TO BE ADDED TO THE REQUIRED WORK DAY TO BRING FORTH A POSITIVE CHANGE, LET THAT BE THE START OF SOMETHING NEW.

IAS SHOULD NOT HOLD THE BURDEN OF FEELING USED, BELITTLED, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, UNAPPRECIATED.

WORKING IN A SCHOOL DISTRICT SHOULD BE SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF AND FOR MANY REASONS, I CAN SAY THAT I AM.

HOWEVER, IT IS DIFFICULT TO SHAKE THE FEELING THAT ONE MUST SEEK JOBS OUTSIDE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT JUST TO PROVIDE FOR MY FAMILY.

I NEED MORE AND CAROLINE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS SHOULD WANT TO DO MORE TO PROMOTE BETTER WORKING CONDITIONS.

LET'S START A MOVEMENT OF CHANGE AND MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO MAKE EVERYONE FEEL APPRECIATED."

>> THANK YOU, MS. BARRY.

>> CAN I MAKE A QUICK COMMENT? I'D LIKE TO THANK ALL FOUR PEOPLE THAT WROTE THESE LETTERS.

I CAN'T SPEAK FOR ANYBODY ELSE ON THE BOARD.

I DO VALUE YOU, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO.

I HATE TO KEEP SAYING THIS BUT I TALK, I SEE WHAT YOU DO FOR THE STUDENTS.

YOUR POINTS WILL BE HEARD BY THIS BOARD AND WE WILL TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

BUT AGAIN, WE DO VALUE WHAT YOU DO.

>> DEFINITELY.

>> IF I CAN JUST ADD TO THAT? IT'S ALL FOR OUR GREAT LETTERS.

>> VERY WELL-WRITTEN.

>> THE THING I UNDERLINED WITH MY PEN, AND IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE OTHERS AREN'T SAYING IMPORTANT THINGS BUT I WANTED TO SAY THE PEOPLE FEEL LIKE TO THE BOARD, WE DO NOT MATTER.

EASY FOR ME TO SAY THIS, AND NO OFFENSE TO MR. NEWCOMB WHO'S BEEN HERE A LONG TIME, FOUR OF THE FIVE BOARD MEMBERS ARE BRAND NEW.

WE'VE NOT BEEN THROUGH A FULL BUDGET PROCESS, WE'VE NOT MADE DECISIONS ABOUT SALARY AND ABOUT BENEFITS AND ABOUT ADDING 15 MINUTES, WILL WE BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT CHANGE? TIME WILL TELL. BUT THIS BOARD, PLEASE DON'T ASSUME, ANYBODY, THAT THIS BOARD DOESN'T CARE OR THIS BOARD THINKS A CERTAIN WAY, WE'RE NOT.

WE HAVEN'T BEEN HERE. WE'LL SEE, A YEAR FROM NOW, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO WRITE THE SAME THING, BUT PLEASE NO ONE THINK THAT THIS BOARD DOESN'T CARE. WE DO.

I KNOW THAT MR. NEWCOMB CARES TOO.

HE'S PART OF A FIVE-PERSON NEWBORN.

WE'RE NEW, IT'S A NEW GAME, IT'S A NEW PLAN.

WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. NOT AN EASY FIX BUT WE DO CARE, YOU DO MATTER.

>> THANK YOU, MR. BARTON. I'LL JUST MIRROR THAT.

WE DO HAVE A NEW BOARD AND I KNOW THESE TOPICS WILL BE DISCUSSED ON BUDGETARY DISCUSSIONS, AND THE LINE THAT HIT ME THE MOST IS IT'S

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A TOUGH JOB TO HAVE SO MUCH MONEY IN THE POT AND THEN HAVE THE DECISIONS YOU HAVE TO MAKE.

CAROLINE COUNTY IS ONE OF MANY COUNTY THAT HAS CONTRACTUAL EMPLOYEES AND PART-TIME EMPLOYEES, EVERYBODY CAN'T BE A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE, BUT THE LINE I UNDERLINED, MR. BARTON, WAS BELITTLE.

SOMETIMES, SOME TOUGH DECISIONS HAVE TO BE MADE AT ALL LEVELS, BUT I HOPE YOU KNOW NO ONE SHOULD BE BELITTLED.

IF YOU WERE, YOU SHOULD BE TALKING TO SOMEONE ABOUT THAT.

I THINK EVERYBODY UP HERE RIGHT NOW AND IN THE ADMINISTRATIONS, CURRENTLY AND PREVIOUSLY, HAVE CARED.

IT'S JUST SOMETIMES, A LOT OF TOUGH DECISIONS HAVE TO BE MADE.

BUT WE'LL HAVE FURTHER CONVERSATIONS IN THE COMING MONTHS.

I THINK WE'LL SEE THE BUDGET CALENDAR COMING UP UP HERE IN A LITTLE BIT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR LETTERS.

>> [INAUDIBLE] JUST WHAT STICKS OUT TO ME IS I PAY FOR MY HEALTH INSURANCE TOO, SO I UNDERSTAND, I CAN FEEL WHERE SOMEONE IS COMING FROM.

WHAT THEY'RE SAYING THEIR WAGES ARE, I DON'T SEE HOW THAT IS.

I CAN UNDERSTAND EXPENSIVE HEALTH INSURANCES.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE COULD DO AT SOME POINT TO LOOK INTO, I'M NOT SAYING GIVE HEALTH INSURANCE BUT WHAT OPTIONS DO WE HAVE? THAT'S SOMETHING TO LOOK AT.

[NOISE] THEY ALSO SAID SOMETHING ABOUT DO THEY HAVE TO DRIVE IN TO WORK WHEN OTHER PEOPLE [INAUDIBLE] KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT.

>> WHAT THEY'RE SAYING ABOUT WORKING THOSE ADDITIONAL 15 MINUTES BUT NOT GETTING PAID IS VERY TRUE.

THEY OFTEN COME IN WITHOUT EVEN BEING ASKED BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT'S NEEDED.

WHENEVER THEIR DAY IS OVER, THEY DON'T JUST WALK OUT THE DOOR.

I CAN'T EVEN BEGIN TO TELL YOU HOW MUCH THE IAS CARE.

IN A LOT OF WAYS, THEY'RE MORE FRONTLINE THAN THE TEACHERS ARE.

I'VE GOT 25, 30 STUDENTS IN A CLASS WHERE THEY'RE MORE ONE-ON-ONE.

A LOT OF THE STUDENTS, THAT'S THEIR SUPPORT SYSTEM.

THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING OUT AND THEY'RE SEEING THAT THEY CAN GET $17 AT TACO BELL.

THEY THEY HAVE TO GET CERTIFIED TO DO THIS.

I DO THINK WE NEED TO SERIOUSLY LOOK AT THIS.

BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE LETTERS.

I THANK YOU FOR THE RESPECTFUL TONE OF THE LETTERS.

THEY WERE VERY WELL-WRITTEN.

THAT'S COMING FROM THE ENGLISH TEACHERS, SO KUDOS TO THAT.

>> THANK YOU. EVERYONE GOOD? MOVING ON.

[6. Individual Action Items]

INDIVIDUAL ACTION ITEMS, 6.01 CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

>> GOOD EVENING, MR. NEWCOMB, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

FIRST ACTION ITEM WE HAVE FOR YOU THIS EVENING IS THE APPOINTMENT OF SEVERAL INDIVIDUALS TO THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS A COMMITTEE THAT'S DESIGNED TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO THE BOARD ON MATTERS OF THE BOARD IS CONSIDERING DURING THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, NOT JUST POLICY BUT OTHER THINGS THAT THE BOARD IS LOOKING AT.

IT COULD BE BOARD PRIORITIES.

BUDGET IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TYPICALLY LOOKED AT AS WELL.

I KNOW WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT EXPANDING THE ROLE IN CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO GIVE THEM A MORE RELEVANT CONVERSATIONS AND TOPICS OF BOARD WRESTLING WITH THIS YEAR.

THIS YEAR, MRS. MCCORMICK AND MRS. ANTHONY WILL BE OVERSEEING THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE AS CO-CHAIRING, AND ARE WORKING ONE SUCH AN AGENDA THAT WE'LL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE FRUITFUL, AS WELL TO GET THAT FEEDBACK FROM OUR FOLKS.

THE APPOINTMENT TO THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS A TWO-YEAR APPOINTMENT.

IN ONE YEAR, IT'S THE BUILDING PRINCIPALS AT A POINT, THIS IS A BUILDING PRINCIPAL YEAR FOR APPOINTMENTS.

THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE THE 10 SCHOOLS REPRESENTED WITH THEIR APPOINTEES.

ALL APPOINTEES HAD BEEN TALKED TO BEFORE THE MEETING, SO THEY'VE AGREED TO IT, WE'RE NOT SNEAKING ONE IN OR ANYBODY.

THE INDIVIDUALS HAVE ALREADY BEEN CONTACTED AND AGREED TO THEIR PRESENTATION.

NEXT YEAR, THE BOARD WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE FIVE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

YOU THEN WOULD BE SELECTING SOMEBODY TO FILL YOUR SEAT.

IT'S AN ALTERNATING EVERY OTHER YEAR.

THE 10 FOLKS WHO ARE IN FRONT OF YOU THIS EVENING, ACTUALLY, 11 FOLKS, MRS. SWAN HAS A FAMILY THAT'S AGREED TO THAT IF THE WIFE CANNOT MAKE IT, THE HUSBAND WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE IT IN HER PLACE, THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE 11 INDIVIDUALS ON THE LIST THIS EVENING.

AGAIN, WE ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL AND THEIR APPOINTMENT TO THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

THIS COMMITTEE WILL START MEETING IN THE MONTH OF OCTOBER, AND THEY MEET AT LEAST FIVE TIMES A YEAR, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, JANUARY, FEBRUARY, AND APRIL.

MIGHT BE SIX. THEY MEET REGULARLY BASICALLY DURING THAT TIME OF THE YEAR.

>> TWO QUESTIONS.

>> I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED.

THIS IS FOR A TWO-YEAR TERM?

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> THEN NEXT YEAR, WE WOULDN'T NOMINATE NEW PEOPLE, WOULD WE?

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>> YOU WOULD NOMINATE THE BOARD. THEY ALTERNATE YEARS.

ONE YEAR, ALL 10 BUILDING PRINCIPALS PICK.

THERE'S ALSO FIVE BOARD MEMBER APPOINTEES WHO WERE ALREADY ON THE COMMITTEE FROM LAST YEAR AT THE BOARD.

>> TWO YEARS AGO.

>> SO THERE'S 15.

>> THEY SERVE THEIR TWO YEARS.

NEXT YEAR, THE FIVE OF YOU WILL THEN BE APPOINTING EITHER THE SAME PEOPLE BACK IN OR YOU COULD PICK SOMEBODY DIFFERENT TO GO IN THOSE 5 TEAMS.

>> SO THERE'S 10 AND FIVE.

>> YEAH, TOTAL OF 15 IN THE COMMITTEE.

>> THEY ALTERNATE SO THEY ARE NEVER ALL NEW?

>> CORRECT. YES, MA'AM.

>> HOW DID THEY CHOOSE THESE PEOPLE? I'M JUST CURIOUS.

>> USUALLY, LOOKING FOR PARENTS WHO HAD BEEN INVOLVED IN THE SCHOOL.

PART OF IT COMES DOWN TO ALSO WHO'S WILLING.

>> WHO'S WHAT?

>> WHO'S WILLING. IT IS A COMMITMENT OF EVENINGS TO COME OUT FOR THE MEETINGS.

WHEN THE MEETINGS ARE IN PERSON, WE DO TRY TO PROVIDE A MEAL FOR FOLKS WHO ARE COMING OUT.

THE PAY ISN'T THERE, IT'S VOLUNTARY, SO YOU TRY TO FEED FOLKS.

VIRTUAL DOES HELP TO HAVE PEOPLE OUT THERE, BUT TYPICALLY, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR PARENTS WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THE SCHOOL AND ENGAGED IN SOME FORM OR FASHION.

>> THANK YOU.

>> YEAH. I'VE REACHED OUT.

WHEN I'VE REACHED OUT, TRYING TO REACH OUT PEOPLE WHO I FEEL HAVE BEEN ENGAGED.

I'VE SEEN INVOLVED EITHER IN THEIR KID'S ACTIVITIES OR WHATNOT.

BUT AGAIN, TRYING TO GET SOMEBODY WHO'S THAT ENGAGED TO THEN SAY, YEAH, I'LL DO SIX OR EIGHT MEETINGS AT NIGHT.

SOMETIMES TO EVEN INVOLVE PARENTS IT'S HARD TO FIND.

THAT'S GOOD. BUT THAT BEING SAID, I'VE ALSO HEARD WHAT I HEARD.

WE HEARD A PREVIOUS BOARD MEMBER.

A BOARD OPEN COMMENT A MONTH OR TWO AGO ABOUT THEIR ENGAGEMENT OF THE CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

I DON'T KNOW IF BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS, BUT PLEASE SHARE WITH DR. SIMMONS.

I THREW OUT THERE THE SUGGESTION AND I GUESS WHOEVER'S RUNNING THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, THIS YEAR IT'S LINDSAY [OVERLAPPING] ADD A NOTE TO THE NOTEBOOK.

MS. ANTHONY, OKAY. ADD A NOTE TO THE NOTEBOOK.

FOR YOU HOPEFULLY, MAYBE A FUTURE OF MANAGERS.

I THINK ONE OF OUR BOARD MEETS AND DOES OUR BOARD PRIORITIES AT THE END OF SUMMER.

THOSE PRIORITIES SHOULD BE VETTED THROUGH THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND SAY, HEY, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS? WHAT DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS OR DO YOU HAVE ANY TWEAKS TO WHAT THE BOARD APPOINTED MEMBERS THOUGHT? IT MIGHT ADD FLAVOR TO WHAT WE WERE STARTED.

I JUST ASKED THAT BE INSERTED TO THEIR EFFORT.

>> WE THINK A LOT OF LIKE. BECAUSE ACTUALLY TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION EXACTLY THAT WHEN WE STARTED CREATING THE AGENDAS FOR THE NEXT SIX MEETINGS. INDEFINITELY.

>> IF THESE PEOPLE FELT THEIR TIME WAS WELL SPENT AND IT WAS VALUED, I VERY STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT WE'LL GO A LONG WAY IN GETTING PEOPLE WANTING TO GET ON COMMITTING.

>> AFTER OUR OCTOBER AGENDA, THEY MIGHT NOT WANT TO COME BACK [LAUGHTER].

>> WE HAVE A VERY HEFTY OCTOBER AGENDA [LAUGHTER].

>> YOU HAVE TO THINK POSITIVE.

PEOPLE LIKE CHALLENGES.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> LIKE ERIN. SHE TOOK THIS AND MADE IT DOABLE.

WHEN SHE TALKS ABOUT ALL THE NEW THINGS, HE GETS A GLEAM IN HER EYE.

>> PLEASE. BECAUSE WE'VE HEARD THOSE COMMENTS AS BOARD MEMBERS AND YOU HEARD THEM AS PUBLIC COMMENT, REINVIGORATE. BECAUSE YOU GOT WHAT? FIFTEEN PEOPLE AND MAYBE FIVE OF THEM ARE INTERESTED IN SPECIAL ED AND FIVE OF THEM ARE INTERESTED ON BUDGET NUMBERS MORE, FIVE OF THEM ARE INTERESTED IN SOMETHING ELSE.

BUT AS LONG AS WE GET THAT FEEDBACK AND THEY ALL FEEL WE'LL LISTEN.

I'M GOING TO LET MR. JONES HANDLE THE DISCUSSION ON WHATEVER BECAUSE HE'S MORE IN THAT AREA, BUT I FEEL BETTER CONNECTED TO SPECIAL ED AND THEN THEY COME BACK.

JUST SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO TO MAKE IT MORE INVIGORATING.

OR ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS THAT ARE FROM THE BOARD?

>> I HAVE TO SAY, IT'S GREAT THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE WILLING TO STEP UP.

MUCH APPRECIATED AND I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT UPON HEARING THE STAFF IS ALREADY ON TOP OF IT.

BUT IT'S INCUMBENT UPON THE STAFF UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF THE SUPERINTENDENT TO MAKE THEIR DEVOTION HERE WORTHWHILE.

IF THEY WERE A YEAR FROM NOW OR SIX MONTHS FROM NOW AND SAY, THAT WAS A GOOD THING TO DO AND I'M VALUED AND I'M MAKING A DIFFERENCE.

>> RECRUIT YOUR REPLACEMENT [LAUGHTER].

>> THAT WILL HELP GET MORE PEOPLE.

WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE SOMEBODY SAY, YEAH, IT'S JUST A BOX BEING CHECKED TO PAT ME ON THE HEAD.

IT'S AN IMPORTANT ROLE AND IT'S NICE TO SEE THEY'RE WILLING TO DO IT.

>> BOARD MEMBERS, THIS IS AN INDIVIDUAL ACTION ITEM.

ARE WE GOOD WITH THE LIST THAT [INAUDIBLE] RECOMMENDED?

>> I SALUTE THAT WE ACCEPT THE NAMES OF THE NOMINEES FOR THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THE TWO-YEAR TERM.

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>> THANK YOU MS. WAYMAN, FOR KEEPING US MOVING. DO HAVE A SECOND?

>> SECOND.

>> SECOND BY MR. JONES.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

>> I.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU PRINCIPLES FOR PUTTING THOSE NAMES FORWARD.

MOVING ON TO NEGOTIATIONS TEAM. DR. SIMMONS.

>> IT'S ME AGAIN, MR. SPEAKER. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. MS. [INAUDIBLE] IS WITH US TONIGHT.

BE COMING TO YOU THIS EVENING WITH THE LIST OF RECOMMENDED INDIVIDUALS FOR NEGOTIATIONS TEAM.

AS WE MENTIONED EARLIER, WE DO HAVE EMPLOYEE ASSOCIATIONS THAT WE DO NEGOTIATE WITH FOR THEIR CONTRACT EACH YEAR.

THIS YEAR, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR OUR NEGOTIATIONS TEAM IS MRS. [INAUDIBLE] WHO USED TO SERVE AS CHIEF NEGOTIATOR LAST YEAR.

WILL SERVE THAT SAME CAPACITY AGAIN THIS YEAR.

MRS. [INAUDIBLE] WHO OVERSEES OUR BUDGET AND FINANCES AS WE'VE SEEN TONIGHT AS WELL.

ERIN WOULD SERVE ON THAT COMMITTEE AND HAVING THAT FINANCIAL VOICE IS IMPORTANT AT THE TABLE.

MRS. ANTHONY WOULD BE SERVING AS A DIRECTOR REPRESENTATIVE THIS YEAR, APPOINTMENT THAT MS. MCCORMICK SERVED LAST TWO YEARS.

WE'RE LOOKING TO ADD, WE'VE HAD A BUILDING PRINCIPAL RECOMMENDATION ON THE COMMITTEE AND LOOKING TO ADD DR.

HOLLOWAY AS OUR BUILDING REPRESENTATIVE OF THIS YEAR.

DR. HOLLOWAY WOULD BE ABLE TO BRING EXPERIENCE AS A PRINCIPAL WITH EXPERIENCE THE ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE LEVEL.

SHE RECENTLY COMPLETED HER SUPERINTENDENTS ACADEMY LAST YEAR.

AGAIN, WILL BRING A GOOD VOICE TO THE TABLE.

MRS. PENNY BRADLEY'S BEEN PART OF THE PROCESS FOR MANY YEARS.

HAS GREAT KNOWLEDGE WITH HUMAN RESOURCES AND WITH THE NEGOTIATIONS PROCESS.

WILL BE A WONDERFUL ADDITION TO THE GROUP.

THERE'S A LOT OF KEEP HER ON IT.

LOOKING TO ALSO ADD MR. ROB WILLOUGHBY WHO WILL BE WORKING TO HELP OVERSEE OUR POLICY WORK THIS YEAR.

HE'S ALSO SERVED PREVIOUSLY AS A REPRESENTATIVE FOR ADMINISTRATORS AND SUPERVISORS ASSOCIATION.

HE'S HAD EXPERIENCE WITH NEGOTIATIONS WORK FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TABLE AND FEEL THAT HE'D BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY, A GREAT PERSON TO ADD TO OUR NEGOTIATIONS TEAM.

NEGOTIATIONS TEAM THIS YEAR WILL HAVE A LOT TO WRESTLE WITH.

IT'S A BIG COMMITMENT FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS.

LAST YEAR, MS. SIACHOS, HOW MANY SESSIONS DO WE HAVE NEGOTIATIONS? [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER].

>> THIS YEAR VERY WELL COULD BE THE SAME AS THE BOARD HAS DISCUSSED TONIGHT A LITTLE BIT IN RESPONSE TO THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, AS WELL AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE IMPACT OF CAROLINE PREVIOUSLY AT BOARD MEETINGS.

THINGS ASSOCIATED WITH NOT JUST OUR OWN TEACHER SCALES AND IMPROVING WAGES.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WAGES FOR OUR SPORTS THAT.

WE ALSO HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THE [INAUDIBLE] LEGISLATIONS AND THEN CALL CAREER LADDERS, WHICH ADDS IN ANOTHER SCALE DIMENSION COMPLETELY TO TEACHER PAY.

THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF WORK FROM OUR NEGOTIATIONS TEAM TO BE ABLE TO GET THIS WORK GOING.

WE'D LIKE TO GET THE TEAM APPROVED NIGHT AND THEY WILL START WORKING ON THEIR PROCESSES HERE SOONER THAN LATER.

BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF WORK TO MOVE THROUGH WITH US WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM CESPA, CCA, AND THEN ALSO THE ADMINISTRATORS AND SUPERVISORS ASSOCIATION FOR THEIR MEETING AND [INAUDIBLE] DOCUMENT.

BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF WORK ON ALL PARTIES REALLY WORKING THROUGH THIS PROCESS TO GET WHERE WE NEED TO IN ORDER TO GET THE BUDGET COMPLETED AND APPROVED FOR NEXT YEAR.

>> WHAT ARE EXEMPT ADMINISTRATORS?

>> AS THEY'RE EXEMPT ADMINISTRATORS BECAUSE THEY'RE NEGOTIATING ON BEHALF OF, OR WORKING ON THE NEGOTIATIONS TEAM WILL BE HALF THE BOARD.

AS THEN BEING EXEMPT, THEY CANNOT PARTICIPATE IN THE NEGOTIATIONS FOR ANY EMPLOYEE AGREEMENT SET THEY FALL UNDER.

MOST OF THESE ARE ADMINISTRATORS THAT WOULD FALL UNDER THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSOCIATE, SORRY, TONGUE-TIED.

ADMINISTRATORS AND SUPERVISORS OF CAROLINE COUNTY ASAC.

THEY CANNOT BE MEMBERS OF THEIR ASSOCIATION BECAUSE THEY ARE PARTICIPATING IN THE NEGOTIATIONS PROCESS.

YOU CAN'T BE A MEMBER AND NEGOTIATE ON A TEAM ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD AT THE SAME TIME. [INAUDIBLE].

>> YES. THEY HAVE BASICALLY REMOVE THEIR MEMBERSHIP FROM THOSE ASSOCIATIONS TO [INAUDIBLE].

>> OKAY.

>> THIS VOTING ON THIS JUST APPROVED THESE PEOPLE, IT DOESN'T TALK ABOUT WHAT THE NEGOTIATING ITEMS WILL BE.

>> NO. THE BOARD WILL NEED TO WORK ON THAT IN CLOSED SESSION, FOR WHAT THE PRIORITIES WILL BE THROUGH THE NEGOTIATIONS PROCESS.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE SEEKING TONIGHT AS I'M SEEKING APPROVAL FOR THE INDIVIDUALS THAT SERVED THE NEGOTIATIONS TEAM TO HELP US GET TO REACH THOSE BOARD PRIORITIES THAT WE FEEL WE NEED TO WITHIN THE CCEA AND [INAUDIBLE] AGREEMENTS.

>> THEY'VE ALL SAID YES?

>> SURPRISINGLY. NO, I'M JUST KIDDING.

THEY'VE ALL SAID YES AND REALLY ARE UP TO THE OPPORTUNITY.

CAROLINE COUNTY IS AN [INAUDIBLE] INTERESTING SPOT.

IT'S A GREAT POSITION TO BE IN.

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WE'VE HAD SOME CHANGES WITHIN THE DISTRICT.

I'M REALLY THANKFUL FOR THOSE WHO HAVE REALLY PUT IN THE TIME PREVIOUSLY FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME IN NEGOTIATIONS PROCESS.

BUT THAT DOES OPEN UP AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME DIFFERENT IDEAS, DIFFERENT CONCEPTS COMING TO THE TABLE THIS YEAR.

WE'RE LOOKING TO STRENGTHEN OUR TEAM, NOT JUST THIS YEAR, BUT ALSO STRENGTHEN IT IN THE COMING YEARS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE FOLKS WHO HAVE NOT ONLY BEEN TRAINED IN NEGOTIATIONS PROCESS THROUGH M&S, BUT ALSO HAVE THOSE EXPERIENCES.

WE'RE LOOKING AT NOT JUST A ONE-YEAR KNOWLEDGE BASE FOR NEGOTIATIONS TEAM, BUT HOW DO WE GET BEYOND JUST A ONE YEAR, BUT REALLY BUILDING THAT PIPELINE OF FOLKS WHO WILL BE IN THE COUNTY FOR A WHILE, WHO CAN HELP US GET THERE.

AS WITH ANY NEGOTIATIONS PROCESS, WE NEVER GET FULLY WHEREVER WE WANT TO BE IN ONE YEAR.

NEITHER PARTY I THINK WOULD THINK YOU'D GET THERE IN A ONE-YEAR PROCESS.

WE KNOW CAROLINE JUST BY ITSELF HAS GOT SOME MULTI-YEAR CHECKPOINTS.

IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE SOME FOLKS WHO CAN GET A LITTLE BIT OF LONGEVITY IN THIS PROCESS WITH US TO HELP WORK ON CHECKPOINTS TO GET US TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE.

ONE OF THOSE CAROLINE PIECES INTO SMALL PIECE, WITHIN THREE YEARS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO EVER STARTING SALARIES FOR TEACHERS TO $60,000.

I THINK IT'S A SAFE PLACE TO SAY, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING AND THE BUDGET TO PROBABLY JUMP ABOUT SEVEN GRAND, EIGHT GRAND ON TEACHER STARTING SALARY IN ONE YEAR.

UNLESS THE MONEY TREE DOES, DOES WORK OUT WELL.

BUT YOU'VE GOT TO START THOSE SEEDS THIS YEAR TO BE ABLE TO GET THERE IN THREE YEARS.

IF WE CAN GET A NEGOTIATIONS TEAM IN PLACE WITH FOLKS TO BUILD THAT PIPELINE AND THOSE EXPERIENCES AND TRAIN PEOPLE UP, WE REALLY HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY HERE WITH THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE AND PEOPLE WHO SERVED BEFORE WHO WERE STILL IN THE COUNTY AND AREN'T LOOKING TO GO ANYWHERE ANYTIME SOON.

RETIREMENT ISN'T CLOSE ENOUGH.

THAT HELPS US STILL BUILD THOSE PIECES OUT TO MAKE FOR A STRONG NEGOTIATION TEAM MOVING FORWARD AGAIN TO PUT OUR COUNTY AND A REALLY GOOD POSITION TO MEET THESE GOALS.

>> [INAUDIBLE] YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH GOING ON [LAUGHTER].

>> MS. ANTHONY JUST SEE THAT GLAZE LOOK ON HER EYES [INAUDIBLE]. [LAUGHTER]

>> WELL, I MEAN, BEING A SMALL SYSTEM FROM MY PERSPECTIVE TO WHAT DR. SYMON WAS SAYING, I MEAN, I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME RETIRED PERSONNEL.

I COME IN AND HELP WITH INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE AND THEN WE DIDN'T ALWAYS HAVE AN HR PROFESSIONAL.

THERE WAS SOMEONE WHO WAS COVERING THE POSITION FROM A DIFFERENT AREA OF EXPERTISE AND SO YOU RELY ON A LOT OF INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE.

DR. SYMON SAYS, HAVING A BROAD BASE OF PEOPLE EXPERIENCED WITH IT, IT'S A GOOD THING.

BOARD MEMBERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE, THIS INDIVIDUAL ACTION ITEM.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THESE RECOMMENDATIONS?

>> SO MOVED.

>> MOTION BY MRS. DIGIACOMO.

>> I'LL SECOND.

>> SECOND. BY MR. BARTON, FURTHER DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

MOVING ON TO THE BIG DOCUMENT WE ALL RECEIVED AND I KNOW YOU'VE ALL READ IT THOROUGHLY.

THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM NEXT MONTH, A BIG DOCUMENT, MAINTENANCE PLAN, BUT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN IS JUST AS IMPORTANT.

>> MR. PRESIDENT BEFORE I PASS TO MR. MENGEL IF IT'S OKAY WITH THE BOARD, IT MAY MAKE SENSE FOR MR. MENGEL TO WALK THROUGH BOTH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND COMPREHENSIVE MAINTENANCE PLAN AT THE SAME TIME BECAUSE THEY BOTH GO HAND IN HAND.

THEY'RE VERY MASHED WHEN I WRITE SHORTER VERSIONS AND THEN OF COURSE THE BOARD CAN APPROVE BOTH SEPARATELY.

>> THAT'S FINE. SO WE HAVE MR. MENGEL, WE HAVE THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND THE COMPREHENSIVE MAINTENANCE PLAN, AND X2 ACTION ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.

WHICH ONE WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO THROUGH FIRST?

>> I'D LIKE TO, EXCUSE ME.

I LIKE TO JUST CIP FIRST.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> OKAY. GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT NEWCOMB, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, DR. SYMONS.

TONIGHT, I PRESENT TO YOU FOR APPROVAL THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, KNOWN AS THE CIP, AND THE COMPREHENSIVE MAINTENANCE PLAN, KNOWN AS A CMP.

BOTH DOCUMENTS WORK TOGETHER HAND IN HAND.

BUT FIRSTLY, I APOLOGIZE TO YOU FOR THE LATENESS OF RECEIVING A 50 PLUS PAGE DOCUMENT AT 12 NOON ON FRIDAY.

THIS WAS UNFORTUNATE AND IT WAS NOT DONE BY DESIGN.

I WILL EXPLAIN HOW IT'S HAPPENED IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL SHORTLY.

THE CIP, EACH OF YOU SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF THE CIP AND YOU'RE BORED PATENTS.

A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM IS REQUIRED BY THE INTER-AGENCY COMMITTEE FOR SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION, WHICH DOES THE IAC, TO BE UPDATED AND APPROVED ANNUALLY BY ALL LOCAL BOARDS OF EDUCATION.

FALL INTO BOARDS OF EDUCATIONS ACCEPTANCE AND APPROVAL, THE CIP WILL BE SUBMITTED TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FOR ITS ACCEPTANCE.

THE PROPOSED FY 23 CIP REFLECTS THE BOARD'S PRIORITIES AS SHOWN IN THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES MASTER PLAN.

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A SUMMARY OF ALL CURRENT AND FUTURE YEARS' PROJECTS IS INCLUDED ON FORM 102.4 AND YOU'LL FIND THAT ON PAGE 4 OF YOUR DOCUMENT.

THE FY 23 CIP REQUEST THE APPROVAL OF A ROOF REPLACEMENT PROJECT AT A REGIONAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS FOR THE CAROLINE COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION TO APPROVE THE FY 23 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

BEFORE YOU DO THAT, THOUGH, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> WE'RE JUST DOING THE 23, NOT 24 OR 25?

>> THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S A ONE-YEAR TO ONE-YEAR REPORTING ENTITY.

>> YEAH BECAUSE I SAY ALL THOSE OTHER COMMONS.

>> YEAH. SO YOU'LL SEE ON PAGE 4, YOU'LL SEE WHERE IT DRAWS OUT.

EACH YEAR, IT GIVES YOU A SCHEDULE OF WHAT THE PROJECTS WILL BE DOWN THE ROAD.

>> OKAY, GOT YOU.

>> BUT IN ALL HONESTY TO BOARD MEMBERS, AGAIN, BEEN AROUND FOR A LITTLE BIT AS THINGS CHANGE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE REGION AS FAR AS NEW HOUSING, FAMILIES MOVING IN, FAMILIES MOVING OUT, SONGS, THAT COULD CHANGE.

I MEAN, THE COMING YEAR PROBABLY WON'T CHANGE.

BUT EVEN TWO YEARS THREE THE FARTHER YOU GO OUT, I MEAN, PRIORITIES COULD SHIFT AND SHIFT BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT YEAR, AND YEARS 3, 4, 5 COULD LOOK TOTALLY DIFFERENT THIS TIME NEXT YEAR, DEPENDING ON ACCURACY.

>> THAT'S CORRECT, YES.

>> GET A ROOF IF YOU NEED A ROOF YOU NEED A ROOF.

>> YES. ROOF, RIGHT? I'M SITTING HERE LOCK IN NOW THAT WE'VE HEARD ABOUT LOCKER MAN, WE'VE HAD LOCKER MAN DISCUSSIONS FOR A LONG TIME IN CONJUNCTION WITH CCTC.

SO IT'S A PRIORITIZATION YEAR BY YEAR.

>> NOW IS THIS MONEY ALREADY IN THE BUDGET?

>> SO THE STATE PORTION FOR JUST LOOKING AT ORIGINALLY WOULD BE 1.95 MILLION AND THE LOCAL THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR WOULD BE $366,909.

>> SO MRS. DIGIACOMO, WE'RE BASICALLY ASKING THE STATE FOR FUNDING FOR THAT 1.9 ALMOST $2 MILLION FOR THE ROOF REPLACEMENT.

IT WOULD BE CONTINGENT IF THEY WERE TO PROVIDE THAT THROUGH THIS PROGRAM, THEN LATER WE WOULD WORK WITH THE COUNTY TO FIND THAT PIECE THAT WE WOULD THEN HAVE TO PLAY.

BUT I JUST WANT TO DRAW OUT AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS AND EVEN LOOK AT THE FIRST FOUR ITEMS OF THE YEAR, THEY'RE ALL ROOF REPLACEMENTS.

THAT'S ABOUT $10 MILLION IN THE ROOF REPLACEMENTS AND EXPLAINS WHY WITHOUT STATE MONEY, WE CAN'T AFFORD IT.

WE'VE GOT TO HAVE THE STATE MONEY TO BE ABLE TO GET WHERE WE NEED TO ON THIS ONE.

SO I'M REALLY HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN GET ORIGINALLY DONE THIS YEAR.

WE ASKED ORIGINALLY LAST YEAR.

IN FY 22 WHEN HE DID NOT GET FUNDED, WE WERE ABLE TO FINISH GREENSBORO THAT WAS ON THERE AS WELL.

BUT WE'RE VERY HOPEFUL WE CAN GET ORIGINALLY THIS YEAR TO BASICALLY STAY ON THIS TIMELINE SO WE DON'T GET BEHIND.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION.

>> YES, MRS. WAYMAN?

>> YEAH. WHEN I LOOK AT THE ESTIMATED DATES ON PAGE 3 AT THE BOTTOM, STARTING JUNE 1ST OF 22 AND BEING COMPLETED SEPTEMBER 1ST OF 22.

THAT SEEMS PRETTY FAST.

ARE THERE ANY ALTERNATE PLANS THERE?

>> AT THIS POINT, THERE ARE NO ALTERNATE PLANS.

TURNAROUND ON A ROOF FOR A YEAR IS VERY FEASIBLE.

>> IT IS THREE MONTHS.

>> IT'S THREE MONTHS TO GET A VOTE.

>> OH, THREE MONTHS, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T SEE THEM [OVERLAPPING].

>> ONE OF MORE THINGS THAT WE HAVE THAT WE LOOK AT WHAT THE ROOF REPLACEMENT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO MAXIMIZE, THE KIDS AREN'T IN THE BUILDING.

>> BECAUSE, THE SAFETY AND PART OF THE BID PROCESS THAT WOULD GO OUT WITH THIS ROOFING PROJECT IS WE WOULD REALLY BE LOOKING AT BIDDING IT WITHIN THAT TIME FRAME.

SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A SIZABLE CONTRACTOR WHO CAN BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE MANPOWER TO BE ABLE TO PULL OFF THAT, BE PART OF THE BID PROCESS.

DOING A RIGHT WHEN KIDS ARE IN THE BUILDING, IT'S JUST NOT FEASIBLE FOR US.

SO WE WOULD HAVE TO BE LOOKING AT A CONTRACT WITH SIZABLE ENOUGH THAT CAN PULL IT OFF IN THAT TIME FRAME.

IT IS DEFINITELY DOABLE.

IT'S GOT TO BE A BIG CONTRACTOR THAT WILL HAPPEN.

>> I BELIEVE THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, MRS. WAYMAN.

BUT I DO BELIEVE DERRICK'S ANSWER.

CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I THINK EVEN THEY START STAGE IN THE LAST FEW DAYS, WEEKS OR SO STAGE AND EVERYTHING PRIOR TO SCHOOL.

IT'S ALL READY TO ROLL THE FIRST DAY FIRST, THEY'RE HIDDEN AS MUCH AS I CAN AND SOMETIMES MAYBE EVEN CLEAN IT UP A LITTLE BIT AND WHEN THE KIDS RETURN, BUT THE ACTUAL PROJECTS.

>> YEAH. THE ACTUAL DEMO AND ALL LIKE THAT'LL BE COMPLETELY DONE WHEN KIDS AREN'T AROUND.

>> OKAY.

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>> ARE WE STICKING WITH THE FLAT ROOFS?

>> WE HAVE TO STICK WITH THE, STRUCTURE OF THE BUILDINGS HAVE HERE.

>> THAT'S THEIR DESIGN.

>> YES, IT'S THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING.

>> PART OF WHY? WHEN I READ IF I'M READING CORRECTLY, REPLACE FROM 97, 19 YEARS OLD, 20 YEARS OLD I GUESS, SAME THING NOW, 20 YEARS OLD, LITTLE MORE, 21.

THAT'S ABOUT IT FOR A FLAT ROOF.

>> YEAH. RIGHT.

>> SO IT'S GOT TO BE 99, IT'S PRETTY MUCH A NO-BRAINER.

>> I CAN'T RECALL EXACTLY.

BUT TO YOUR POINT AND RICK, WHEN HE JUST SAID 20 YEARS, I'M THINKING TOO, WHY DIDN'T WE DO IT WHEN WE RENOVATED KERNEL METAL? PROBABLY I'M EXTRAPOLATING NOW, BUT THERE WAS NO NEW ASPECT OF THE BUILDING.

IT WAS A RENOVATION HERE.

HE COULD HAVE DONE THE ROOF AT THE SAME TIME BUT FUNDING WHAT HAD BEEN AVAILABLE FOR THAT BECAUSE THE ROOF WAS LESS THAN 20 YEARS OLD.

>> WE RUN INTO THE SAME ISSUE, A KERNEL HIGH WHEN WE RENOVATING IT WHEN I WAS THERE AS PRINCIPAL.

>> THE ROOF WAS STILL GOOD?

>> PART OF THE ROOF WAS STILL GOOD.

PART OF IT WAS NOT AND THEY HAD TO FIX THAT, BUT PART OF IT WAS THEY COULDN'T GET FUNDING FOR THE FULL ROOF REPLACEMENT IS LITERALLY WASN'T SECTIONS BECAUSE SOME SECTIONS WE'RE NOT AT THE AGE PIECE.

IT'S JUST THE WAY THE FUNDING FORMULAS WORK, UNFORTUNATELY.

BUT YES, THAT'S BECAUSE I WAS WONDERING THE SAME THING, BUT IT'S ALL KERNEL MIDDLE ONE HERE BECAUSE THAT RENOVATION PROJECT 1 THAT LONG AGO DEAL LIKE IT FLAT.

>> FLAT ROOFS CONSTANTLY NEED REPAIR?

>> YEAH.

>> WELL, WHEN WE GET BITS, I KNOW IN THE PAST IT USED TO HAVE TO GO TO THE LOWEST BIDDER.

>> DOES NOT HAVE TO.

>> WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THE LOWEST?

>> LOWEST BIDDER THAT CAN DO THE WORK.

>> WELL, BECAUSE NORTH CAROLINA, I STARTED TEACHING THERE RIGHT WHEN THEY FINISHED AND FROM DAY ONE, THE ROOF LEAKED.

THE PROBLEMS IN THAT SCHOOL WERE JUST RIDICULOUS.

>> ERIN COULD PROBABLY SPEAK TO THE EXACT CRITERIA ON BIDDING FOR SELECTION, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE LOWEST.

>> SO WE WANT QUALITY.

>> YEAH, THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHERE WE'VE NOT SELECTED THE LOWEST BECAUSE WE ARE [OVERLAPPING].

>> OKAY. GOOD. BECAUSE IT WAS JUST A LOT OF MONEY DOWN THE TUBE.

>> SOMETIMES YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.

>> WE HAVE A POSSIBILITY WE JUST HAVE TO BE JUSTIFIED. [OVERLAPPING]

>> RIGHT. WELL, THAT'S VERY GOOD TO KNOW.

>> YEAH.

>> SOMETIMES THE LOWEST BIDDER DOESN'T INCLUDE EVERYTHING.

THAT YOU'RE [OVERLAPPING] YEAH.

>> THANK YOU.

>> BOARD MEMBERS, IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, AS INDIVIDUAL ACTION ITEM, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AS REVIEWED?

>> SO MOVED.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY MS. WAYMAN.

>> SECOND.

>> SECOND BY MRS. DIGIACOMO.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

>> THANK YOU.

>> MOVING ON TO THE CMP.

THE LARGE DOCUMENT YOU GUYS RECEIVED ON FRIDAY.

THE INTER-AGENCY COMMITTEE, THE AIC, REQUIRES AN ANNUAL UPDATE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE MAINTENANCE PLAN.

THIS PLAN REPRESENTS ONE OF SEVERAL ACTIVITIES ENABLING THE IAC, TO MONITOR AND EVALUATE HOW WELL MARYLAND'S SCHOOL SYSTEMS ARE SYSTEMATICALLY AND COMPREHENSIVELY PROTECTING THE STATE'S CAPITAL INVESTMENT.

CAROLINE'S COUNTY SPECIFIC OBJECTIVES FOR THIS CMP ARE TO : PROVIDE THE MOST EFFECTIVE ENVIRONMENT POSSIBLE FOR TEACHING AND LEARNING, MINIMIZE POTENTIAL DISRUPTIONS TO THE EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM, PRESERVE AND PROTECT THE ASSET VALUE OF SCHOOL PROPERTY AND FACILITIES, MAXIMIZE THE EFFECTIVENESS AND EFFICIENCY OF FACILITY FUNCTIONS OF SYSTEMS, PROVIDE THE FOUNDATION FOR EFFECTIVE RISK MANAGEMENT AND PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE PROGRAMS. THE CIP IS REFLECTED WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

BOTH REPORTS ARE TOOLS USED TO DEVELOP THE EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES MASTER PLAN, WHICH WILL BE PUT TOGETHER IN THE SPRING TO ADDRESS THE LATENESS TO THE BOARD, RECEIVE THE LARGE DOCUMENT THREE DAYS PRIOR TO A BOARD MEETING.

THIS WAS THE PERFECT STORM.

IN EARLY JUNE, THE IAC TOLD LEAS THAT THE NEW CMP REPORTING TEMPLATE WAS NOT TO BE CHANGED UNTIL THE START OF FY2, 23.

LESS THAN 30 DAYS LATER AT THE END OF JUNE, THE IAC REVERSED THEIR COURSE AND STATED [NOISE] THAT THE NEW CMP REPORTING TEMPLATE WOULD GO INTO EFFECT FY 22 DUE OCTOBER 15TH, 2021.

THERE'S ALSO LEADERSHIP TURNOVER.

AS YOU REMEMBER, THE DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS RESIGNED IN EARLY JUNE.

THE SUPERINTEND ADMINISTRATORS SERVICES RETIRED THE END OF JUNE.

WE HAD AN ACTING DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS FOR TWO MONTHS,

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FILLING IN BEFORE I CAME ON BOARD IN AUGUST 30TH.

WE SIMPLY RAN OUT OF TIME.

THIS DOCUMENT TAKES ABOUT THREE TO FOUR MONTHS TO PUT TOGETHER AND WE LITERALLY HAD WEEKS TO PUT TOGETHER.

WE CONTRACTED THE EXPERIENCED SERVICES OF DR. DAVID LIEBER, PRINCIPLE OF EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES PLANNING, LLC AS TWO ASSOCIATES, MR. ANDY AND MR. MAURICE.

DR. LIEBER HAS HELPED OTHER LEAS WITH THE NEW CMP TEMPLATE THIS SUMMER AND WAS WELL AWARE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT CCPS HAD WITH THE CMP.

THIS FIVE-PERSON TEAM WHICH WAS DR. LIEBER, MR. ANDY, MR. MAURICE, MR. NAGEL AND MYSELF, THE FIRST FOUR ARE BOTH CONSIDERED CMP EXPERTS.

THEY WILL COMPLETED THIS REPORT IN A TWO WEEK PERIOD OF TIME TO MEET THIS DEADLINE OF THE OCTOBER 4TH BOARD MEETING.

THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO MEET THE OCTOBER 15TH DEADLINE FOR THE IAC.

YOU'LL NOTICE IN THE PLAN THAT THERE ARE SOME FIELDS THAT ARE OF MISSING DATA THAT THE IAC'S NEW REPORTING TEMPLATE IS REQUESTING.

EITHER THAT DATA IS NOT CURRENTLY AVAILABLE OR CCPS WAS NOT REQUIRED TO COLLECT THIS DATA IN PAST.

EITHER WE WILL BEGIN TO GATHER TO REQUESTED THE DATA AND BETTER POPULATE THIS NEW TEMPLATES ONE FORWARD.

GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE THIS DOCUMENT IS FULLY FILLED OUT MAY TAKE UP TO TWO YEARS.

SPEAKING WITH DR. LIEBER LAST FRIDAY MORNING, HE SHARED WITH ME THAT CCPS IS BETTER POSITION THAN OTHER SMALL LEAS WHO HAVE SIMILAR ISSUES WITH THIS NEW CMP TEMPLATE.

THE NEW TEMPLATE IS VERY DATA-DRIVEN AND VERY DETAILED ORIENTED COMPARED TO WHAT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST.

IS THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE CAROLINE COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION APPROVE THE FY 22 COMPREHENSIVE MAINTENANCE PLAN.

AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, PLEASE ASK.

LET ME REMIND YOU I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE FOR FIVE WEEKS, SO IT'S A 50 [LAUGHTER] PAGE DOCUMENTS. PLEASE GO AHEAD.

>> I KNOW THIS IS NOT ALL OF US. I GET THAT.

I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO ASK YOU WHY THEY CHANGE THEIR MIND, IT'S RHETORICAL QUESTION.

WHAT HAPPENS? BECAUSE WE CANNOT COMPLETE IT.

IS THAT WHAT HAPPENED?

>> NO. THERE ARE OTHER COUNTIES IN THE SAME BOAT AS US.

SOME OF THE FIELDS ARE ASKING FOR, LIKE A PREVIOUS, A BUDGETED AND ACTUAL OR YOU NEED TO HAVE SOME HISTORICAL NUMBERS FIRST BEFORE YOU CAN BUILD THAT.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PITCH TO THE IAC.

WE ARE GOING TO BE FILLING THIS OUT AS WE GO THROUGHOUT THE YEAR TO GET A BETTER ACCURATE REPRESENTATION FOR NEXT YEAR.

AGAIN, IT MAY TAKE AN EXTRA YEAR TO FILL THAT THIRD COLUMN OUT.

>> THEY HAVE TO ACCEPT?

>> THEY HAVE TO ACCEPT IT, YEAH.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IT WILL COME UP, I'M SURE MR. MENGEL, THEY'LL END UP ASKING IN THE BUDGET SEASON AS WE MOVE FORWARD MORE IF THERE'S A WAY TO DO IT AHEAD OF TIME.

WE HAVE AN INTERNALLY CREATED WORK ORDER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT WAS CREATED BY CCPS.

IT WAS DESIGNED AS A WORK ORDER WORKFLOW.

PUT IN WORK ORDER TICKETS, GET THEM TO THE EMPLOYEES, TRACK WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM AND BE DONE WITH IT.

FILE IT AND MOVE ON.

THE SYSTEM THAT IS IN PLACE THAT MANY SYSTEMS HAVE MOVED TO LARGER SYSTEMS AS I HEARD THAT WILL TRACK THIS DATA IS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL NEED TO LOOK AT THAT ALLOWS US TO HISTORICALLY TRACK THE WORK ORDER PROCESS BETTER.

PUTS IT OUT IN MORE FINITE DETAIL.

ONE OF THE PRODUCTS THAT FOLKS ARE USING SOMETHING CALLED SCHOOL DUDE.

WE USE THAT PARTIALLY IF ANYBODY HAS EVER AND THOSE WATCHING THERE.

IF ANYBODY'S EVER TRIED TO RESERVE SCHOOL USAGE, LIKE ALICE SCHOOL, FOLKS WHO RENT SPACE FROM US, USE OUR FACILITIES, EVEN RECREATION AND PARKS.

WE USE THE SCHOOL DUDE PROGRAM FOR THAT PIECE, FOR FIELD RESERVATIONS, BUILDING RESERVATIONS.

THEY HAVE AN ENTIRE MAINTENANCE SIDE THAT POPULATES THE LEVEL OF DATA THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE GOT TO DO IS LOOK AT THAT LEVEL OF A WORKFLOW PROCESS FOR ALL OF OUR MAINTENANCE WORK ORDERS.

THAT WILL GIVE US THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL WHERE THE INTERNAL SYSTEM WE'VE CREATED WAS NEVER DESIGNED TO GET THAT SPECIFICITY.

WE'RE GOING TO BE IN A POSITION OF HAVING TO SHIFT, VERY LIKELY SHIFTING AWAY FROM AN INTERNAL DESIGN PROGRAM TO A MUCH MORE DETAILED SOFTWARE DRIVEN.

THAT WILL COST US MORE MONEY.

>> YES, UNLESS WE CAN FIGURE A WAY OF, WHAT'S THE COST OF THE INTERNAL VERSUS, BUT YES, MR. MENGEL, THE MORE LIKELY.

>> I MEAN, I WAS LOOKING AT THIS AND KNOWING THAT WE'VE BEEN VERY LUCKY HERE IN CAROLINE COUNTY TO BE, IF SOMEONE'S NOT DOING THEIR JOB FOR THE MOST PART, IT'S GLARINGLY APPARENT.

WE'VE HAD A VARY LOT OF ACCOLADES, BUT THE CONDITIONS OF OUR BUILDINGS FOR THE AGES ARE GIVEN AND ALL THAT.

I'M LOOKING AT THIS AND THEY WANT TO KNOW THAT WE'RE SENDING NUMBER OF HOURS THE EMPLOYEE SPENT ON PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE AND NUMBER OF HOURS SPENT ON WORK ORDERS.

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I JUST THINK IF SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN CROSSED, THE ISSUES ACROSS THE STATE, WE'RE LUCKY THAT ALL OF OUR SCHOOL BUILDINGS ARE HEATED AND AIR CONDITIONED, THAT'S NOT THE CASE ACROSS THE STATE.

NOW TO HOLD CERTAIN AREAS UP TO THE LEVEL OF MAINTENANCE AND STUDENT COMFORT THAT WE ARE.

WE'RE ONE OF THE FEW COUNTIES THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE MAINTENANCE OF EFFORT BUDGET WITH LITTLE TO NO OVER THAT, NO ADDITIONAL FUNDS WE'VE BEEN DOING IT ON THE BUDGET WE'VE BEEN GIVEN.

YET ALL OF THESE SCHOOL DISTRICTS BELOW THIS EXTRA MONEY HAVEN'T BEEN HEARD.

SOMEONE MADE THESE CHANGES BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE.

I WOULD SAY MAYBE SCHOOL DISTRICTS WHO HAVE BEEN ACCOUNTABLE OR SPENDING LESS PER PUPIL THAN THE BOTTOM THIRD OF THE LIST OF THE STATE SPENDING LESS PER PUPIL THAN THE OTHER COUNTIES.

MAYBE WE GET AWAY FROM THIS BECAUSE I THINK NOW WE'RE TAKEN TIME.

THE GUYS OR GIRLS WHO ARE DOING THE WORK, THEY GOT TO TAKE SOME TIME NOW TO FINISH PUNCHING IT IN.

THEY GOT TO PUT ON. I'VE SEEN IT IN A REAL WORLD TOO.

YOU DO YOUR JOB AND THEN IT TAKES YOU 10-15 MORE MINUTES TO PUT IN THE TRACKING CODES THAT YOU GOT TO PUT IN.

THAT'S 15 MINUTES TAKEN AWAY FROM ANOTHER JOB.

THERE'S ONLY ANY GIVEN DAY, SO MANY HOURS IN A DAY.

IT'S THE DEATH OF 1,000 CUTS.

WE'RE TALKING TO THE LETTERS WE GOT IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT.

THE EXPECTATIONS INCURRED WITH THE HIGHER LEVEL.

I MEAN, EVERYTHING THEY DO TAKES ANOTHER MINUTE OUT OF THE DAY, WHICH TAKES ANOTHER DOLLAR OUT OF THE BUDGET.

A LOT OF IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH READING OR WRITING AN ARITHMETIC.

BILL, I SAW YOU AND YOUR STAFF AND WE'RE PUT IN THAT POSITION.

I'VE BEEN FINE IF IT WAS 50 BLANK PAGES PERSONALLY, [LAUGHTER] BECAUSE I THINK OUR COUNTY IS DOING A FINE JOB.

>> THANK YOU.

>> SORRY.

>> CAN YOU JUST SUMMARIZE WHAT'S IN HERE FOR THE PUBLIC.

[INAUDIBLE]. [LAUGHTER].

>> BASICALLY, WHAT IS IN THE CMP IS A FINANCIAL REVIEW, OVERVIEW OF MAINTENANCE TASKS AND ASSETS THAT WE EMPLOY TO USE TO KEEP OUR BUILDINGS RUNNING EFFECTIVELY.

FLEET MANAGEMENT, WORK ORDERS, THE MAINTENANCE WORK ORDERS SYSTEM THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH NOW, A LOT OF IT IS JUST REALLY A DETAILED LOOK AT THE MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT AND THE CUSTODIAL PLANT OPERATIONS DEPARTMENT AS TO ALL THE DETAILS THAT REALLY GO INTO IT.

IT'S VERY DETAILED AS WE'VE SEEN IT'S 50 PLUS PAGES.

THERE'S A LOT TO IT. [NOISE].[OVERLAPPING]

>> INCREDIBLE DOCUMENT. GOOD WORK.

DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE FRIDAY [INAUDIBLE] AMAZING.

GOT IT DONE. [OVERLAPPING] I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION THAT HAS JUMPED OUT OF ME.

LOOKED AT THESE DOCUMENTS ARE VALUABLE.

I HEAR WHAT [INAUDIBLE] SAYING, I AGREE WITH [OVERLAPPING] NO, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAYING.

IF PEOPLE PUT NEW BURDENS ON YOU AT SOME POINT THAT'S ANOTHER HOUR OF YOUR TIME OR STAFF TIME. I AGREE TOTALLY.

ANYWAY, MY QUESTION AND I THINK IT REQUIRES A SIMPLE ANSWER AND YOU MAY NOT KNOW.

IF YOU DON'T KNOW, DON'T FEEL FUNNY ABOUT IT.

YOU'RE FIVE WEEKS IN, YOU CAN'T KNOW EVERYTHING.

JUST GET BACK TO ME. LET ME KNOW.

[OVERLAPPING] YOU MAY KNOW OR SOMEBODY HERE MAY KNOW.

WHEN I LOOK AT PAGE 45 AND IT TALKS ABOUT THE CUSTODIAL STAFFING AND THEN THERE'S AN ASTERISK AND THEN A DOUBLE ASTERISK NEXT TO THE NUMBER 51.

IT SAYS IN FY 21 BUDGET AND AN ACTUAL 43 CUSTODIANS, NINE HEAD CUSTODIAN.

THEN FOR 22 IT SAYS 36.5 CUSTODIANS, NINE HEAD CUSTODIANS.

AM I READING THAT RIGHT THAT WE HAVE 51 OR THE NUMBERS HAVE GONE DOWN?

>> YOU ARE READING IT CORRECT.

LAST YEAR WAS THE BUDGET AND THE NUMBER BELOW IS THE ACTUAL FOR THIS YEAR.

YES, AS YOU READ THAT, WE'RE DOWN SIX AND A HALF CUSTODIAL STAFF DISTRICT WIDE.

>> BUT IT SAYS 51.

IT LOOK LIKE IT'S BEEN DOWN 51 [NOISE] IN ALL THREE PLACES, BUT THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO GO DOWN.

>> YOU'RE READING IT CORRECT. THE SAME NUMBER OF POSITIONS HAS EXISTED ALL THREE YEARS.

>>ALL RIGHT.

>> FY21.

WE WERE TRYING TO FLUSH OUT THE FACT THAT IN FY21, WE DID HIT OUR BUDGET AND OUR ACTUAL WE HIT WHERE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO.

>> OKAY.

>> THIS YEAR WE'RE BUDGETING FOR 51.

WE'RE SHORT SIX AND A HALF.

>> YEAH. OKAY.

>> TO START THE SCHOOL YEAR AND WE'RE STILL SHORT [OVERLAPPING]

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>> THEY'RE BUSTING THEIR HOMES [OVERLAPPING] THAT'S TO SHOW EVERYWHERE WE WERE DOWN SIX AND A HALF.

>> YEAH. OKAY. NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE TO BEGIN WITH.

[OVERLAPPING] DOWN

>> THEY DO A GREAT JOB.

>> NO CRITICISM THERE.

ANYBODY THAT IT'S DOWN [OVERLAPPING] AFTER THE MATTER.

AGAIN, THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS IN THIS REPORT.

THAT'S AMAZING, GOOD JOB.

>>THANK YOU.

>> IT DOES HELP PEOPLE KNOW WHERE THEY FIT AND THE PUBLIC WANTS TO READ IT.

THEY'LL KNOW MORE ABOUT THE SYSTEM. THAT'S FOR SURE.

>> CORRECT. THANK YOU.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION.

>> YES.

>> IT'S ABOUT ALL OF THE WORK ORDERS BECAUSE THERE'S SOMETHING HERE THAT TALKS ABOUT A PORTABLE WORK ORDER AND THIS COMES FROM AN EXPERIENCE I HAD WHERE, WHAT SOMETHING I OBSERVED AND WHAT I OBSERVED WAS, THERE WAS SOMEBODY IN A SCHOOL FOR A DIFFERENT REASON AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS A TEACHER AN AID OR WHAT.

I HEARD HIM ASK THIS TECHNICIAN, "MY COPYING MACHINES, SOMETHING [INAUDIBLE].

CAN YOU FIX THIS MACHINE?" HE SAID, "WELL YOU NEED TO PUT A WORK ORDER BEFORE." I'M JUST WONDERING IF THAT'S BECAUSE OF HOW WORK ORDERS IS? IS THERE A WAY THAT THAT PERSON, IF IT DOESN'T TAKE THAT LONG, CAN THEY FIX THAT MACHINE WHILE THEY'RE THERE VERSUS HAVING TO GO BACK TO WHEREVER, GET OUT AND NOT EVEN GET BACK THAT DAY.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT PERSON IS HAVING A PROBLEM WITH. I DON'T KNOW.

>> YEAH.

>> THAT'S WHAT SPURRED THAT BY SEEING THAT.

>> TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, THEY CAN FIX IT.

THE OTHER PARTY WOULD HAVE TO SUBMIT A WORK ORDER SOON, LATER THAT DAY.

THE PERSON WHO'S WORKING ON WOULD GO BACK THE NEXT DAY TO MAKE SURE THE WORK ORDER WAS SUBMITTED TO FOLLOW THROUGH.

BUT YEAH, THAT'S INEFFICIENT TO SAY NO, I CAN'T DO THAT UNTIL YOU GET THE WORK ORDER I'M GOING BACK TO THE OFFICE AND WAIT FOR IT AND I DRIVE BACK DOWN TO DO IT.

WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT AT THE TIME, BUT WE DO NEED THE PROCESS TO FOLLOW THROUGH AND THEY NEED TO SUBMIT THE WORK ORDER AND THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF DATA THAT WILL START POPULATING IN THIS.

>> OKAY.

>> DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?

>> YEAH.

>> OKAY. [OVERLAPPING] YEAH, GREAT. THANKS. [OVERLAPPING].

>> I DIDN'T HAVE AN ANSWER AT THAT POINT.

WHEN I HAVE AN [INAUDIBLE] AN OBSERVER, I DIDN'T KNOW.

I SAW PEOPLE GIVING OUT ALL THE TIME.

I DON'T KNOW. [LAUGHTER]

>> YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT.

>> OKAY.

>> YOU WOULD HOPE SO. THANK YOU.

>> [OVERLAPPING] I'D HOPE SO TOO THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING.

>> ZACH. DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION?

>> OKAY.

>> BOARD MEMBERS, SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT'S AN INDIVIDUAL ACTION ITEM ON A COMPREHENSIVE MAINTENANCE PLAN? THE DISCUSSION IS AN IMPORTANT DOCUMENT, BUT LET ME MINIMIZE IT, BUT IT'S ALSO OBVIOUSLY VERY [OVERLAPPING] COMPREHENSIVE.

[LAUGHTER] DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS OUTLINED?

>> BOTH OF THEM CORRECT.

>> WE DID THE [INAUDIBLE] PIECE [OVERLAPPING].

THIS IS JUST FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE MAINTENANCE PLAN.

>> MR. JONES MADE A MOTION DO I HAVE A SECOND?

>> SECOND.

>> SECOND MOMENTS, [INAUDIBLE] ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

>>[OVERLAPPING] AYE.

>> THANK YOU. A COMPREHENSIVE THANK YOU, BILL. ALL RIGHT.

MOVING ON TO REPORTS AND PRESENTATIONS.

SOMETHING NEW TO TALK ABOUT.

>>[OVERLAPPING]

>> YEAH, THANK YOU, I'M SORRY.

YEAH. WE ADDED AN ACTION ITEM AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, NUMBER 6.05.

THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME.

BOARD MEMBERS AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN COMING A LITTLE EARLY LAST FEW MONTHS, THE HALF-TIME AND EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS OUR PLANS, OUR PROCESS, AND OUR THOUGHTS ABOUT OUR SUPERINTENDENT SEARCH THAT WE'RE WE'RE NEEDING TO DO IN THE COMING YEAR.

WE REACHED OUT TO SOME REGIONAL CONTRACTORS TO GET PRICE QUOTES AND GET OUTLINES OF THE PROCESSES AND SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR US ALL TO REVIEW.

WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS AND I THINK WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AND READY TO MAKE A DECISION ON OUR PLANS FOR THE COMING SIX OR EIGHT MONTHS.

IS THAT ACCURATE? MS. WAYMAN, ARE YOU WITH US?

>> YES, I'M HERE. I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION THAT [NOISE] EXCUSE ME A MINUTE, PLEASE.

>> YOU'RE FINE. [LAUGHTER] I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU'RE PART OF THE DISCUSSION.

>> I'M SORRY. [LAUGHTER] I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE BOARD OF EDUCATION CONTRACT MADE TO SERVE AS

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OUR VENDOR TO ASSIST THE CAROLINE COUNTY BOARD OF [INAUDIBLE] WITH THE SELECTION OF THE SUPERINTENDENT.

>> GREAT. THANK YOU, MS. WAYMAN. DO I HAVE A SECOND?

>> SECOND.

>> SECOND BY [INAUDIBLE] MOTION BY MS. WAYMAN.

ANY DISCUSSION OR ANYBODY WANT TO OFFER ANY INSIGHT ON THE PROCESS WE'RE GETTING READY TO ENTER INTO.

>> JUST FOR PEOPLE AT HOME.

MABE, MARYLAND ASSOCIATION OF BOARDS OF EDUCATION.

>> THANK YOU.

THAT'S THE ACRONYM, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ACRONYMS.

>> THEY'VE DONE SEVERAL SEARCHES FOR PRETTY MUCH EVERY COUNTY IN THE STATE. KEEPS THE MONEY LOCAL.

>> THEY KNOW THIS COUNTY.

ANYBODY MIGHT WONDER WHAT THAT IS.

>> IT'S THE STATE ASSOCIATION OF SCHOOL BOARDS, AND AS A SERVICE THEY PROVIDE WITH CONTRACTORS.

BUT TO YOUR POINT IS THEY KNOW THE STATE STANDARDS BETTER THAN ANYBODY.

>> IT WOULD ALSO HELP SAVE MONEY FOR TRANSPORTATION.

>> EXPENSES.

>> RIGHT. THAT WOULD KEEP OUR COSTS DOWN.

>> WE HAVE A WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.

WE ATTEND TRAINING SESSIONS THAT MADE OFFERS TO MARYLAND BOARD OF EDUCATION SO THEY KNOW WHAT MARYLAND EXPECTATIONS ARE AND SO WE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH MABE.

>> THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR IN SELECTING MABE AS OUR SEARCH CONSULTANT, SAY AYE.

>> [OVERLAPPING] AYE

>> THANK YOU FOR THE REMINDER.

SINCE WE ADDED THAT.

NOW MOVING ON TO REPORTS AND PRESENTATIONS.

[7. Reports and Presentations]

AGAIN, SOMETHING NEW TO TALK ABOUT, COVID-19.

>> OUR CURRENT PRESENTATION FINANCIALLY IS SHORT, I WANT TO FOCUS IN ON THE COUNTY DATA.

FOR CAROLINE COUNTY FOR WHERE WE ARE AS OF THE END OF THE WEEK BEFORE LAST WEEK, AND THEN DRAW A COMPARISON TO THAT TO SOME STATE DATA THAT I WAS ABLE TO PICK UP ON THE STATE BOARD MEETING CALL THAT WAS LAST WEEK AND THEN TALK ABOUT HOPEFULLY WHERE WE CAN GO FROM THERE AS NOT JUST A SCHOOL SYSTEM, BUT HOPEFULLY AS THE STATE DOES.

RACHEL, IF YOU COULD. FOR THE CHART THAT'S BEING DISPLAYED, WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO IS SHOW THE NUMBER OF CONFIRMED STAFF CASES, THE NUMBER OF CONFIRMED STUDENT CASES, NUMBER OF QUARANTINES AMONG STAFF AND STUDENTS WITHIN OUR SCHOOLS.

TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION, I THINK THIS GRAPH DOES A GREAT JOB OF POINTING IT OUT.

THE BOTTOM BAR IS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF STUDENTS WHO HAVE BEEN QUARANTINED DUE TO CLOSE CONTACT AT SCHOOL DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR.

AS OF RIGHT NOW, PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEMS IN THE STATE OF MARYLAND ARE ONE OF THE ONLY ENTITIES BESIDES BASICALLY HEALTH CARE THAT HAS TO FOLLOW THE GUIDANCE THAT'S LAID OUT BY THE MARYLAND DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND THE CDC IN TERMS OF MITIGATION STRATEGIES.

COULD BE ANYTHING FROM MASKING, TO CLOSE CONTACTS, TO SOCIAL DISTANCING, TO CONTACT TRACING ON A ROUTINE BASIS.

WHICH PUTS AN INCREASING PERSPECTIVE, I WOULD SAY.

ONE, PUBLIC SCHOOLS, THEY HAVE TO MONITOR THESE PROCESSES AND THESE PROCEDURES.

I DO WANT TO SAY, MY COMMENTS.

I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO MISINTERPRET MY COMMENTS TO SAY THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE PRACTICING SAFE PRACTICES WITHIN THE SCHOOLS TO KEEP OUR STAFF AND STUDENTS SAFE.

IT'S NOT THAT, IT'S JUST LOOKING AT THE TOOLS THAT ARE IN FRONT OF US AS WE'RE CURRENTLY DEPLOYING AND USING THOSE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE DATA POINTS AND I REALLY WANT TO DRAW ON THE TOTALS.

FOR CAROLINE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS AS OF THE END OF LAST WEEK, WE HAD HAD A 155 CONFIRMED STUDENT CASES.

NOW THAT'S 155 CONFIRMED STUDENTS IN CAROLINE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS THAT HAVE HAD COVID SINCE THE SCHOOL YEAR BEGAN.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY WERE SCHOOL CONTRACTING CASES.

IT'S STUDENTS WHO WE BECAME AWARE OF THAT TESTED POSITIVE FOR COVID SINCE THE SCHOOL YEAR BEGAN.

ALL THOSE 155 CASES AND 22 STAFF CASES LED TO 634 KIDS BEING SENT HOME BECAUSE THEY WERE WITHIN THREE FEET OF THESE STUDENTS.

THEY WERE WITHIN THREE FEET OF ANOTHER STUDENT.

IF IT'S A STAFF MEMBER, THEY WERE WITHIN 60 OF A STAFF MEMBER WHO WAS POSITIVE.

FOR ADULTS, IT'S 60, FOR KIDS, IT'S THREE FEET.

IT'S 634 ADDITIONAL KIDS SENT HOME FOR MINIMUM OF 10 DAYS FROM THEIR EDUCATION, FROM THEIR SCHOOLING.

WE DO NOT HAVE A GREAT PARALLEL IN CAROLINE COUNTY IN PARTICULAR AS TO HOW MANY OF THOSE 634 KIDS ENDED UP TESTING POSITIVE IN THEIR TIME BEING OUT.

BECAUSE ACCORDING TO OUR LOCAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WE'VE HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION, GREAT RELATIONSHIP, AND DISCUSSING THIS DATA, THE RATE OF TESTING IS VERY LOW FOR STUDENTS ON QUARANTINE.

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THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE TESTED.

THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT FOR TESTING.

BUT THE RATE OF TESTING HAS BEEN VERY LOW ON STUDENTS WHO ARE ON QUARANTINE, SO WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD PARALLEL OF 634 KIDS ARE OUT ON QUARANTINE DURING THEIR TEN DAY QUARANTINE PERIOD.

WE HAVE X NUMBER OF KIDS WHO'VE TESTED POSITIVE.

THEN WE CAN DRAW OUR OWN INTERNAL CAROLINE COUNTY NUMBERS TO SAY X PERCENTAGE OF KIDS ON QUARANTINE ARE TESTING POSITIVE.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.

WHAT WE DO HAVE IS CONVERSATION AT THE STATE LEVEL AND NATIONAL LEVEL OF STUDIES THAT ARE BEING DONE AS IT RELATES TO QUARANTINES.

LITTLE CAROLINE COUNTY, 5,500 KIDS ROUGHLY, 634 QUARANTINES WITHIN THE FIRST MONTH OF SCHOOL ON ASSETS.

FOR THE STATE OF MARYLAND AS OF TUESDAY OF LAST WEEK, THERE WAS THE STATE BOARD MEETING ON TUESDAY.

THE CHART THEY DISPLAYED WAS NOT THE DATA THEY SHARED BECAUSE THEY LITERALLY PULLED THE DATA UP UNTIL THE TIME OF THE BOARD MEETING.

STATE OF MARYLAND HAD OVER 17,000 QUARANTINES IN THE FIRST ROUGHLY THREE, THREE-AND-A-HALF WEEKS OF SCHOOL AND KEEP IN MIND, SOME SCHOOL SYSTEMS STARTED AFTER LABOR DAY.

TO SOME, IT ONLY BEEN IN SESSION FOR LESS THAN THREE WEEKS.

BUT THERE WAS OVER 17,000 QUARANTINES IN THE STATE OF MARYLAND.

NUMBERS THAT WE ARE HEARING.

>> HOW MANY STUDENTS ARE IN THE STATE OF MARYLAND?

>> THAT I DON'T KNOW MRS. DIGIACOMO.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY STUDENTS ARE IN THE STATE.

>> I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT PERCENTAGE.

>> STUDENTS ON QUARANTINE WHO ARE TURNING POSITIVE ON A NATIONAL LEVEL AND STATE LEVEL, WHAT WE'RE HEARING IS IT'S FALLING SOMEWHERE BETWEEN ONE TO TWO PERCENT OF ALL CHILDREN WHO ARE ON QUARANTINE OR TURNING POSITIVE ON A STATE LEVEL OR NATIONAL LEVEL.

AGAIN, I CAN ONLY REPEAT WHAT I'M HEARING FOR THE STATE LEVEL.

NATIONAL LEVEL, I'VE SEEN THE STUDIES PRODUCING THOSE RESULTS LOOKING AT SCHOOL SYSTEMS THAT HAD BEEN IN PLACE SINCE THE MONTH OF AUGUST DOWN SOUTH, WHERE THE DELTA VARIANT WAS DEFINITELY RUNNING HIGH, BUT THEY WERE SEEING ABOUT ONE OR TWO PERCENT OF STUDENTS ON QUARANTINE TURNING POSITIVE.

>> THAT'S 12 KIDS OUT OF 634.

>> LIKELY IN THAT BALLPARK OF THOSE WHO WERE ON QUARANTINE.

>> TO MY KNOWLEDGE, UNTIL OUT 634 AND I WAS USING 56, 57, 100, BUT THAT'S WHAT THE PRE-K. THEN WHEN WE GET TO THE NEXT LINE ITEM AND NOT REPORT, WE SEE 5,300 KIDS ON SEPTEMBER 30TH COUNT, AS WE'LL GET TO THAT.

SAYS, 12 PERCENT OF OUR STUDENTS ARE SIDELINED.

HOPEFULLY WITH LITTLE TO NO, I DON'T WANT TO DIMINISH IT, BUT AT SAME TIME, HOPEFULLY NO CONSEQUENCES.

BUT EVEN IF THEY ARE SICK, HOPEFULLY MINIMAL CONSEQUENCES.

BUT WE'RE SIDELINING 12 PERCENT OF OUR POPULATION.

WITH A POTENTIAL, WITH THE STATE NATIONAL AVERAGES FOR 12 KIDS, 634 KIDS OUT OF POSSIBLY 12-15 KIDS MIGHT GET POSITIVE.

>> LOOKING AT THE STATE NATIONAL AVERAGES, YES.

>> OKAY.

>> I CAN SPEAK AS A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENTS OF THE STATE OF MARYLAND ASSOCIATION EXAM.

IF YOU HEAR THAT ACRONYM, WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING AND ARE ACTIVELY LOBBYING FOR CONVERSATION WITH MARYLAND DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, AS WELL AS MARYLAND STATE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT MODIFYING QUARANTINE GUIDELINES AS IT'S HAPPENING IN OTHER STATES ACROSS THE NATION.

THERE ARE STATES THAT HAVE MODIFIED THEIR QUARANTINE GUIDELINES.

MASSACHUSETTS BEING ONE OF THOSE, PENNSYLVANIA BEING ONE OF THOSE THAT HAS MODIFIED THEIR QUARANTINE GUIDELINES TO LESSEN THE IMPACT ON NUMBER OF STUDENTS BEING SENT HOME FOR BEING IN CLOSE CONTACT PROVIDED THAT STUDENTS ARE NOT SYMPTOMATIC.

I THINK THAT'S THE PIECE TO LOOK AT.

IN NO WAY WE'D BE ADVOCATING OF A STUDENT WHO WAS ILL STAY IN SCHOOL, IF YOU WERE SYMPTOMATIC, COVID OR NOT COVID.

IF YOU WERE ILL, IF A KID HAD A FEVER, WE'D WANT TO KNOW.

IF A KID HAD DIARRHEA OR VOMITING, WE'D WANT TO KNOW.

IT'S JUST THOSE THINGS GO WITHOUT SAYING.

BUT WE'RE ALL ASKING THE STATE OF MDH AND MSDE TO RECONSIDER THEIR QUARANTINE GUIDELINES TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE, I DON'T WANT SAY REASONABLE.

I'M NOT A MEDICAL DOCTOR.

I DON'T PRETEND TO BE ONE.

I WILL NOT PRETEND TO BE ONE.

BUT THERE'S GOT TO BE A LITTLE BIT BETTER SOLUTION SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY THAT HELPS KEEP KIDS IN SCHOOL.

WE'RE SEEING THE RATE OF STUDENTS WHO WERE OUT ON QUARANTINE NOT TURN POSITIVE AT HIGH RATES.

IF THE DATA'S NOT THERE, WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT HAVING CONVERSATIONS AROUND THAT.

WE'RE HOPEFUL. I CAN JUST GO ON AND ON.

OUR HOPE IS THAT WE'RE HOPEFUL.

WE'LL HAVE A CONVERSATION WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, HOPEFULLY SOONER THAN THAT, WITH MARYLAND DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND MARYLAND PEOPLE HEALTH EDUCATION WITH

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THE STATE SUPERINTENDENTS ASSOCIATION TO HAVE A VERY GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT QUARANTINE GUIDANCE, TO PROVIDE SOME MODIFIED OPTIONS THAT LESSENS THE IMPACT OF KIDS BEING OUT.

THE TOUGH PART OF THIS AND I DON'T WANT TO MISLEAD WITH THE DATA AND I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO THINK I'M DOING THAT.

SIX HUNDRED AND THIRTY FOUR QUARANTINES DOES NOT MEAN 634 KIDS.

YOU CAN HAVE A KID BE OUT FOR 10 DAYS, COME BACK IN AND BE ON CLOSE CONTACT TO A DIFFERENT KID AND THEN MISS ANOTHER 10 DAYS.

I DON'T WANT TO MISLEAD ANYBODY OF THINKING IT'S 634 STUDENTS.

SOME COULD BE ON THEIR SECOND QUARANTINE WHICH THEN YOU'RE TALKING 20 DAYS THAT SOMEBODY'S MISSED.

AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING FOR REPRIEVE.

WE'RE HOPING FOR REPRIEVE, WE'RE LOBBYING FOR SOME REPRIEVE TO HELP LESSEN THIS BURDEN ON STUDENTS, FAMILIES, AND STAFF.

>> THAT'S MY QUESTION. IT'S THAT THE TOTAL OR IT'S JUST WHAT IT SAYS, 634 PEOPLE OR PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN QUARANTINED MIGHT BE ONE PERSON, 634 TIMES [LAUGHTER] NOT LIKE 3630 FOR QUARANTINE.

BUT MY QUESTION ABOUT THAT IS THAT, THERE'S NOT 634 STUDENTS OUT RIGHT NOW?

>> NO.

>> THAT'S OUR CUMULATIVE TOTAL.

>> YEAH. ARE YOU TRACKING AND BE ABLE TO SAY HOW MANY STUDENTS ARE OUT ON QUARANTINE? YES.

OR POSITIVE TEST EACH DAY? YES. WE'RE KEEPING OUR ATTENDANCE WITH BASIMIST SHARE A LAWRENCE AND OTHERS HAVE WORKED VERY HARD TO SET UP A TRACKING MECHANISM WITHIN POWERSCHOOL THAT WE CAN TRACK ATTENDANCE CODES TO KNOW HOW MANY AT ONE GIVEN TIME ARE OUT WHETHER IT'S BECAUSE THEIR QUARANTINE.

THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, IF THEY'RE ON QUARANTINE BECAUSE THEIR PARENTS HAVE CALLED US TO SAY MY KID HAS TO STAY HOME FOR SO MUCH TIME.

THEY PROVIDE THE NODE. IT'S A FAMILY QUARANTINE, NOT A SCHOOL SITUATION.

WE CAN PARSE THOSE OUT AS WELL, AS WELL AS FOR THE POSITIVE STUDENT.

THOSE ARE ISOLATIONS AS OPPOSED TO QUARANTINES, WE'RE KEEPING THE DATA AT THAT LEVEL.

WE CAN TRY TO LOOK TO SEE HOW MANY, IF WE LOOK LAST WEEK HAD 54 QUARANTINES.

LESS QUARANTINES WE HAD ABOUT HALF, ACTUALLY IT WAS HALF AS MANY POSITIVE STUDENTS AS THE WEEK BEFORE.

YOU WOULD THINK THAT DATA IS TRENDING DOWN SOME.

SO WE HAVE LESS STUDENTS OUT THIS WEEK ON QUARANTINE, THAN WE DID TWO WEEKS AGO.

IS THAT 54 NEW ONES? [NOISE] DURING THAT WEEK WE ADDED 54.

AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS NUMBER IS EVEN AVAILABLE.

JUST PICK IT A DAY.

LAST FRIDAY, HOW MANY STUDENTS WERE OUT QUARANTINE? WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PULL THAT.

I DON'T NEED TO KNOW IT BUT YOU HAVE THAT? YEAH, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PULL IT ON ANY GIVEN DAY. YES.

YEAH. GOOD. YOU'RE TRACKING LIKE I FIGURED YOU WERE.

SO WHEN I SAID 12 PERCENT, THAT WASN'T TECHNICALLY ACCURATE FOR THE KIDS 12 PERCENT OF OUR STUDENTS, ITS SOMEWHERE LESS THAN 12 PERCENT.

ACTUALLY YES, MR. [INAUDIBLE] IT WOULD BE LESS BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE HAD KIDS WHO WERE ON THE SECOND QUARANTINE.

HOW FRUSTRATING. [NOISE] JUST FOR THE RECORD, [NOISE] MARYLAND HAD 855,519 KIDS IN 2020.

IF THE STUDENTS AND IF THE 17 THOUSAND WAS ACCURATE, I MEAN, THAT'S 2 PERCENT.

[NOISE] BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

SOMEBODY MAY ARGUE THAT THE QUARANTINE GUIDELINES AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS, THAT'S WHAT'S KEEPING THE NUMBER OF POSITIVE CASES LOWER BECAUSE THE KIDS GO OUT AND THEY'RE NOT SPREADING IT AROUND.

I'M NOT ADVOCATING THAT THAT'S ACCURATE.

IT SEEMS LIKE I APPLAUD YOU AND THE OTHER SUPERINTENDENTS AND OTHER FOLKS WHO ARE TRYING TO GET THOSE QUARANTINE PARAMETERS ADJUSTED, CHANGED, IMPROVED, KEEP UP THE GOOD FIGHT.

THEY SAY HOPE IS NOT A PLAN.

YOU DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT MORE TO GO ON.

BUT THE HOPE THEY'LL LISTEN [NOISE] WITH ENOUGH VOICES CRYING OUT.

THANK YOU MR. BARTON.

WE ARE RELYING ON OUR DATA, AS WELL.

ALL OF US ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO GIVE A MORE COMPLETE PICTURE FROM INDIVIDUAL SYSTEM WIDE APPROACHES.

SOME SYSTEMS HAVE A HIGHER RATE OF TESTING AMONGST SOME OF THEIR STUDENTS.

THERE IS ONE PIECE I DO WANT TO SPEAK TO A LITTLE BIT, AND IT IS A PERSONAL CHOICE.

IT HAS BEEN IN THE STATE OF MARYLAND AND THAT'S VACCINATIONS.

CAROLINE COUNTY HAS ONE OF THE LOWEST VACCINATION RATES, NOT ONLY AMONGST ITS ADULTS, BUT ALSO AMONGST THESE 12 TO 17 YEAR-OLDS.

IT'S A PARENTAL CHOICE. I GET IT. I'M NOT.

BUT IF YOU'RE VACCINATED ACCORDING TO QUARANTINE GUIDELINES AND YOU'RE AROUND A CLOSE CONTACT, YOU DON'T GET SENT HOME.

SOME SCHOOL SYSTEMS ARE SITTING 60 TO 70 PERCENT VACCINATION RATES AMONG 12 TO 17 YEAR-OLDS.

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THOSE SCHOOL SYSTEMS WHERE THE VACCINATION RATES ARE THAT HIGH, THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE LESS QUARANTINES.

BECAUSE THE QUARANTINE GUIDELINES ARE SUCH AGAIN THAT IF I'M GOING TO, SAY I'M IN A HIGH SCHOOL AT AN AREA WHERE I HAD A VACCINATION RATE OF 70 PERCENT OR HIGHER FOR MY HIGH SCHOOL AGE KIDS, WHICH MONTGOMERY COUNTY IS ONE THAT HAS A VERY HIGH VACCINATION RATE, I BELIEVE HOWARD COUNTY DOES.

IN THOSE COUNTIES, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT LESS QUARANTINES AMONGST YOUR HIGH SCHOOL KIDS IF YOU'VE GOT A HIGHER VACCINATION RATE.

WELL, I THINK ONE THING THAT GETS ME IS IF YOU'RE VACCINATED, YOU DON'T HAVE TO QUARANTINE.

BUT IF YOU'RE VACCINATED, YOU CAN STILL GET IT AND TRANSMIT IT.

BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO QUARANTINE.

BUT ALL THESE KIDS THAT ARE GETTING SENT HOME, THEY'RE NO DIFFERENT THAN THE PERSON WHO'S VACCINATED.

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT PERSON AND THE PERSON AND THE CHILD THAT'S VACCINATED AS FAR AS BEING A CLOSE CONTACT AND BEING ABLE TO SPREAD.

THE VACCINATED SHOT CHILD OR STUDENT COULD JUST AS EASILY, MAYBE NOT JUST AS EASILY, BUT THERE'S A CHANCE THAT THEY COULD HAVE GOTTEN IT AND SPREAD IT TOO.

BUT WELL, WE'RE LETTING THEM STAY IN SCHOOL, BUT WE'RE SENDING THESE OTHER KIDS HOME.

I'M HAVING A HARD TIME WITH THAT MAKING SENSE.

YEAH. I AGREE WITH YOUR QUESTIONING MARK AND I DON'T KNOW IF DR. SIMONES IS THE RIGHT PERSON TO, I MEAN, YOU MIGHT IF YOU DON'T WANT TO. [OVERLAPPING] HE'S JUST THE ONE I'M LOOKING AT.

[LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING] HIS DESK IS OVER THERE.

YEAH.

I AGREE WITH YOU.

I THINK YOUR QUESTION MAKE SENSE.

I GET IT, IT'S A GENERAL QUESTION NOT A SPECIFIC QUESTION TO HIM.

RIGHT. BUT I THINK WE NEED TO CARRY ON WITH THAT, PAST DR. SIMONES.

TO YOUR POINT, I AGREE.

FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD, UNLESS THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT OR SOMEBODY [INAUDIBLE] WRONG IS, HOPEFULLY THE VACCINATED PEOPLE MAYBE DON'T GET AS SICK. DOESN'T MEAN YOU DON'T HAVE IT.

BUT THEN THEY CAN SPREAD IT IF THEY'RE NOT QUARANTINED JUST LIKE ANYBODY ELSE.

I HEARD ON THE RADIO TODAY.

DR. SIMONES, IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME THEY SIDE, OUR SPORTING GROUP THAT WE WORK WITH.

IT SOUNDED ON RADIO UNLESS IT'S BAD INFORMATION IS, SINCE IT'S WINTER SPORTS, IT'S INSIDE AND THE KIDS ARE CLOSER, THEY'RE CONTEMPLATING A BASE SIDE POLICY AS FOLLOW SOME RECOMMENDATION TO WEEKLY.

WHILE I WAS DRIVING DOWN A ROAD, TUCKED IN AND LISTENING RADIO, BUT TEST NON-VACCINATED KIDS WEEKLY OR PRE-GAME, A TESTING PROCESS FOR AN NON VACCINATED KIDS.

TO MARK'S POINT, IT DOESN'T MEAN VACCINATED KIDS CAN HAVE IT TOO AND CAN JUST BE IN PLAYING BASKETBALL AND TRANSMITTED TOO.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S COMING FROM.

WELL, IF IT'S A HEALTH DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDATION OR NOT, BUT A [NOISE] VACCINATED CHEERLEADER CAN STILL GIVE IT TO WHOEVER.

THEY'RE NOT EVEN TAUGHT. THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR IT.

THAT'S ANOTHER THING. WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR ALL THIS TESTING? I THINK MORGAN, I FOUND IT BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TRYING TO LOOK FOR LOGIC IN THE ALL OF THIS.

IT'S NOT THERE.

I MEAN, I NOT BEING SMART, IT'S JUST NOT THERE.

THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST MAKING THE RULES.

[NOISE] DO WE HAVE, AND I KNOW WE CAN'T NAME STUDENTS AND I HOPE NOT, [NOISE] BUT DO WE KNOW ANY OF OUR CHILDREN OR OF YOUR STUDENTS WHO HAVE BEEN HOSPITALIZED? AS OF THE EARLY LAST WEEK, EARLY LAST WEEK IN CONVERSATION WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WHEN THEY CHECK THEIR RECORDS, THERE HAD BEEN NO HOSPITALIZATIONS AMONGST CHILDREN IN CAROLINE COUNTY.

NOT HOSPITALIZED IN CAROLINE.

NO CAROLINE COUNTY CHILDREN THAT THEY WERE AWARE OF IN THEIR DATABASES HAD BEEN HOSPITALIZED DUE TO COVID-19.

GOOD NEWS. THANK YOU.

RIGHT THERE.

DO WE KNOW IF WE HAD ANY CASES THAT HAD BEEN DIRECTLY RELATED TO TRANSMISSION IN SCHOOL? WE HAVE NOT HEARD OF ANY SPECIFICALLY IN SCHOOL.

I'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THE HEALTH OFFICER MRS. [INAUDIBLE].

PART OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE HAD, THE COVID NUMBERS ARE HIGH, COUNTY WIDE ACROSS THE COUNTY BECAUSE WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, OKAY, WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR IN TERMS OF SPREAD IN SCHOOL AND THINGS WE SHOULD REALLY BE CONCERNED ABOUT.

AGAIN, NOT AN MD.

PUBLIC HEALTH IS NOT MY BACKGROUND.

WHAT INDICATORS SHOULD WE BE CONCERNED ABOUT?

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IF WE'RE SEEING IN THE DATA AND I'M COMING TO YOU THAT THE SCHOOLS ARE CAUSING THE TRANSMISSION IN THE COMMUNITY.

IF YOU'RE THE CAUSE OF PUBLIC SPREAD AROUND THE AREA, THEN I'M COMING TO YOU WITH CONCERN.

RIGHT NOW, AND SHE SAID WITH CONFIDENCE, IT IS A COMMUNITY SPREAD ISSUE THAT IS BEING BROUGHT INTO THE SCHOOLS AND SHE HIGHLIGHTED THE FACT AND I GET IT.

SCHOOLS AT THAT POINT IN TIME WERE THE ONLY PLACE IN THE COMMUNITY BESIDES MEDICAL OFFICES THAT HAD TO DO ANY OF THE MITIGATION STRATEGIES.

WE ARE THE ONLY PLACE WHERE YOU'VE GOT TO STAY APART, YOU CAN GO ON WALMART, YOU COULD CUDDLE UP, DOWN EVERY AISLE YOU WANT, NOT KNOCKING WALMART, THEY'RE A GREAT PARTNER BUT YOU CAN GO THERE, HUDDLE UP ALL YOU WANT.

YOU CAN GO TO AN INDOOR CONCERT WHEREVER YOU WANT.

AS LONG AS THE VENUE IS OPEN, THERE'S NO REQUIREMENTS.

HOWEVER, AT SCHOOLS WE'RE REQUIRED TO SOCIALLY DISTANCE.

YOU HAVE TO WEAR A MASK INSIDE PUBLIC SCHOOL BUILDINGS AND ON PUBLIC BUSES.

IF YOU GO INSIDE ANY OTHER PLACE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO, UNLESS THE INDIVIDUAL BUSINESS OWNER WANTS TO REQUIRE YOU TO OR IF YOU ARE IN A MEDICAL PLACE.

WE THE ONLY PLACE THAT'S REQUIRED TO CONTACT TRACE AT THE RATE AT WHICH WE ARE.

>> THAT'S A TREMENDOUS WORKLOAD.

>> IT'S AN INCREDIBLE WORKLOAD ON OUR PRINCIPALS, INCREDIBLE WORKLOAD ON OUR NURSES [OVERLAPPING] AND ASSISTANT PRINCIPALS, THOSE FOLKS WORKING TOGETHER, THOSE THREE, THEY'VE WATCHED MORE BUS TAPE THIS YEAR THAN THEY PROBABLY HAVE IN THEIR ENTIRE CAREERS, TO TRACK WHERE KIDS ARE SITTING.

THE WAY THEY'RE HAVING TO SET UP SEATING CHAIRS IN CAFETERIAS, IS INCREDIBLE TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SPACE MORE KIDS OUT, AND HATS OFF TO EVERYBODY DOING A PART TO TRY WITH IT.

BUT IT'S MORE THAN A NOTION FOR WHAT'S GOING THROUGH.

I APPRECIATE ALL THEY'RE DOING, I'M THANKFUL THEY ARE STILL HERE WITH US.

THEY'RE GREAT PEOPLE.

BUT IT IS AN EXTREMELY HIGH BURNOUT RATE RIGHT NOW, AND WE'VE NOT SEEN WHAT SOME OTHER SYSTEMS HAVE SEEN, WITH THE HIGH BURNOUT RATE WITH THEIR STAFF WHO ARE LIVING AND BREATHING CONTACT TRACING ON A DAILY BASIS.

>> ALL THE MORE REASON TO CONTINUE THE FIGHT TO TRY TO GET SOME COMMON SENSE [LAUGHTER] AND LOGIC INTO THE DECISIONS THAT YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO MAKE, AND LIKE YOU SAID A COUPLE OF TIMES, YOU'RE NOT A PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIAL.

THE PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT THESE QUARANTINE SITUATIONS.

THEN THERE'S SO MANY ANECDOTAL SITUATIONS.

I AGREE WITH YOU, AND I'M NOT MAKING A STATEMENT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER ABOUT FOR OR AGAINST VACCINES.

I'LL JUST TAKE THE EXAMPLE OF A PARENT OF AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CHILD OR CHILD WHO'S TOO YOUNG TO GET THE VACCINE, AND THEY'RE WORRIED TO DEATH ABOUT THEIR CHILD GETTING COVID-19.

THEIR KID CAN'T GET THE VACCINE EVEN IF THAT WAS AN OPTION THEY WANTED TO PURSUE, AND SO NOW WHAT IS BEING DONE TO SAFEGUARD THAT CHILD? I THINK THAT'S PART OF WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.

AGAIN, I'M NOT ADVOCATING THE QUARANTINE NUMBERS.

IF I'M A PARENT OF AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CHILD AND I'M NOT, I MIGHT BE GLAD THAT THERE'S QUARANTINE GOING ON SO THAT MY CHILD DOESN'T GET COVID-19.

MAYBE, MAY NOT, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THEM, BUT THAT'S ALL THIS PLAYS IN THIS.

[BACKGROUND] LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND YOU MAY HAVE THESE NUMBERS OF QUARANTINES, HOW MANY OF THOSE STUDENTS ARE YOUNGER THAN THE VACCINATION AGE? UNDER 12, AND IF THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING.

I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT'S A HIGHER RISK FOR THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KIDS.

I DON'T KNOW THAT, I'M NOT A PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIAL, BUT THEY HAVE NO ALTERNATIVE THAN TO AVOID THE VIRUS.

THAT'S THEIR ONLY ALTERNATIVE, TO TAKE PRECAUTIONS, FOR THE FAMILY TO TAKE PRECAUTIONS.

VACCINE IS NOT AN OPTION FOR THEM, AND THEIR FAMILY MIGHT NOT WANT IT FOR THEM ANYWAY.

I THINK YOU SAID SOMETHING THAT REALLY MERITS UNDERSCORING IN THIS WHOLE CRISIS.

THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO TAKE THIS AWAY FROM THIS CRISIS WHEN IT'S DONE, AND WE WANT TO HOPE THAT IT'S DONE.

DON'T SEND YOUR CHILD TO SCHOOL SICK AND DON'T GO TO WORK SICK.

EASY TO SAY WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE CHILDCARE, OR WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE SICK LEAVE, YOU DON'T WORK, YOU DON'T GET PAID.

HOWEVER, IF YOU'RE WORKING AND PEOPLE BRING AN ILLNESS INTO THE WORKPLACE.

THAT'S PART OF WHAT'S WRONG IN OUR SOCIETY.

PEOPLE BRING ILLNESS INTO THE WORKFLOW, A PART OF THAT IS THEY HAVE NO CHOICE.

THEY DON'T HAVE DAYCARE OR CHILD CARE FOR THEIR KID IF THE KID IS KEPT HOME, SO THEY MEDICINE THEM UP, SEND THEM OFF TO SCHOOL, AND BY NOON THEY NEED TO COME HOME.

THAT'S JUST AN AGE-OLD PROBLEM.

I DON'T KNOW ANY VALUE ON ANYTHING I JUST SAID.

[LAUGHTER] I KNOW THIS IS FRUSTRATING,

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AND IF YOU'RE THE PARENT OF A KID WHO HAS BEEN QUARANTINED A COUPLE OF TIMES ALREADY AND NEVER GOT SICK, THEN THEY'RE FALLING BEHIND OR IT'S JUST NOT RIGHT FOR THEM TO BE HOME.

KEEP UP THAT GOOD FIGHT.

I DON'T WANT TO PICK ON A HEALTH OFFICIAL, IT'S NOT EASY FOR THEM EITHER.

IT'S JUST REALLY DIFFICULT ALL AROUND.

>> OBVIOUSLY, I'LL KEEP THE BOARD AWARE.

I'M HOPEFUL, I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SOME HEADWAY, I'LL KEEP THE BOARD AWARE AS THEY WORK TO MAKE THAT HEADWAY BECAUSE AS WE'VE EVEN HEARD EARLIER, AS YOU GUYS WERE TALKING ABOUT SEEING STUDENTS OUT AS OTHERS ARE TALKING ABOUT IT.

STUDENTS NEED TO BE IN SCHOOL.

STUDENTS ARE DOING WELL IN SCHOOL.

I'M TAKING STUFF TONIGHT.

THE MORE CONSISTENCY WE HAVE, THE MORE ADJUSTED OUR KIDS BECOME BACK TO BEING IN SCHOOL, THE MORE THE ROUTINES RE-ESTABLISH, THE MORE WE SEE THEM JUST ADJUSTING BETTER.

OUR STAFF CAN ACCOMMODATE, WHEN THEY KNOW WHO'S COMING IN ON A REGULAR BASIS.

THEY KNOW WHO'S GOING TO BE THERE FOR INSTRUCTION DAY IN, DAY OUT.

IT'S BETTER ALL AROUND FOR ALL OF US TO FIND A WAY TO DO THIS SMARTER.

>> [OVERLAPPING] NOT TO SINGLE ANYBODY OUT, BUT I'M GOING TO DO IT WITH SCHOOL NURSES. GOOD GRIEF.

I MEAN, THE TEACHERS, THE PRINCIPALS, ASSISTANCE PRINCIPALS, THE STAFF, EVERYONE IS DEALING WITH IT.

THE NURSES ARE LIKE THE POINT OF THE LAMPS.

[OVERLAPPING] SO TO SPEAK. PEOPLE ARE LOOKING TO THEM TO KEEP THEIR CHILDREN HEALTHY AND CONTACT TRACING, WOW.

>> YEAH, DOING AN INCREDIBLE JOB.

>> YEAH.

>> [OVERLAPPING] REALLY DO THEIR JOB THE WAY THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO WHEN THEY'RE GOING THROUGH ALL THIS.

THE VICE-PRINCIPAL IS WATCHING THE SCHOOL BUS TAPE.

[LAUGHTER] AS SOON AS THE KIDS GET OFF THE BUS, IF IT'S FIVE KIDS AT A BUS STOP, [NOISE] YOU'RE WATCHING ALL THIS TAPE AND THEN FIVE KIDS GET OFF.

THE FIRST THING THEY DO IS GROUP RIGHT UP AND GO PLAY.

THAT'S FINE, THAT'S GOOD THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO, THEY'RE KIDS.

WE'RE DOING A LOT OF THIS EXTRA WORK JUST FOR WHATEVER REASON AND TO ME IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE AND IT'S JUST A LOT OF WASTED MONEY AND A LOT OF WASTED TIME THAT COULD BE BETTER SPENT DOING WHAT THEIR REAL JOB IS, AND THAT IS TEACHING.

>> HOW DOES THIS AFFECT THE ATTENDANCE POLICY?

>> WE ACTUALLY ARE EXPECTING SOME GUIDANCE FROM THE STATE VERY SOON ON ATTENDANCE.

WE'VE BEEN ASKING [NOISE] FOR HOW WE CAN RECORD ATTENDANCE ACCURATELY PERTAINING TO QUARANTINE IN TERMS OF WHETHER THEY ACCESS OR WILL CONTINUE CLASSROOM OR NOT.

THE LITTLE [INAUDIBLE] THAT WE GO, WE'RE EXPECTING SOMETHING OVER BY THE END OF THIS WEEK THAT GIVES US THAT CLARITY.

A LOT OF SCHOOL SYSTEMS HAD BEEN, I WOULD SAY, OPERATING ON THE FORM OF PARENTS TO STUDENTS [BACKGROUND] WHO ARE ATTEMPTING TO, AND I'M HOPING THE GUIDELINES THEY GIVE US MATCH THAT.

THAT KIDS CAN LEARN A LITTLE MORE AND TO GET THEIR ASSIGNMENTS COMPLETED OR FIRST AID TUTORING THROUGH OR REACHING OUT TO THE TEACHERS OR THE TEACHER REACH OUT AND GET THEM, THEY'RE GETTING THEIR STUFF DONE ON TIME OR EVEN CALL THEM.

THAT WE'RE ABLE TO ACTIVELY REFLECT, I DON'T WANT US IN A POSITION WHERE WE ARE [OVERLAPPING].

>> SO YOU'RE QUARANTINING AND YET YOU CAN'T.

>> THE STATE DOES KIND OF DICTATE DEFENDANTS CODES, SPECIFIC CODES IN THE DATA RECORDING. YOU'LL SEE THE RECORDS I HAVE.

WE ARE WAITING FOR THEIR CLARITY BECAUSE WE ALSO WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE BECAUSE ATTENDANCE IS ONE AND THE SAME WE GET TO REPORT ON EVERY YEAR, ALL 24 SYSTEMS HAVE THE SAME RULES TO PLAY BY WHEN IT COMES TO ATTENDANCE BUT THAT'S BECAUSE IT IS AN INDICATOR OF SCHOOL SUCCESS THAT ALL OF US WE ARE ACCOUNTABLE FOR, NOT ONLY THE SYSTEM-WIDE BUT FOR EACH OF OUR SCHOOLS.

WE REALLY SHOULD HAVE THAT THIS WEEK, WE HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR IT SINCE [INAUDIBLE].

>> OKAY. THANKS. OKAY. [LAUGHTER] SHOOT, I LOST TRAIN OF THOUGHT.

I KNOW WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. BOARD MEMBERS.

DR. SIMONS IS NOT A HEALTH MEDICAL DOCTOR AND WE ARE NOT HEALTH PROFESSIONALS, BUT WHAT WE ARE IN CHARGE OF IS BEING STEWARDS AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES FOR EDUCATING OUR CHILDREN IN OUR COUNTY.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE HAS ANY INTEREST IN IT OR NOT BUT, FROM THE NUMBERS I SEE, NOT FROM THE MEDICAL PROVIDERS ARE PROVIDING, I KNOW THAT THERE IS A PERCENTAGE OF OUR CHILDREN THAT AREN'T GETTING THE EDUCATION THEY SHOULD BE GETTING.

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NOT TO MENTION THE NUTRITION AT HOME AND OTHER THINGS, AND I DO KNOW THAT WHETHER IT'S 634 KIDS OR 500 AND SOME KIDS STUDENTS, [NOISE] EXCUSE ME, WHO ARE NOT IN SCHOOL UNDER THE CURRENT STATISTICS THAT I'M SEEING ARE SPECIFICALLY FOR CAROLINE COUNTY THAT WOULD BE MUCH BETTER OFF AND ARE BEING WORTH MORE IMPACTED NEGATIVELY BY NOT BEING IN SCHOOL.

IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'VE THE SUPERINTENDENTS ARE WORKING ON LOBBYING.

DOES THIS BOARD HAVE ANY INTEREST IN PUTTING ANYTHING PEN TO PAPER TO SOMEONE OR ANYONE OR SUPPORTING THE SUPERINTENDENTS IN THEIR EFFORTS?

>> I THINK THAT WOULD BE ENOUGH.

>> I SUPPORT IT TOTAL, YES TOTAL.

>> OKAY. MR. WAYMAN, IF YOU'RE WITH US DO YOU HAVE CONSENSUS OR ANY CONCERNS?THIS IS JUST A GENERAL LADDER OF ASKING THAT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE ALREADY RECONSIDERING THE QUARANTINE SPECIFICALLY THE QUARANTINING GUIDELINES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

>> YEAH, I BELIEVE SO. WE CAN SAY THAT, I'M ASSUMING.

BASICALLY A LETTER SAYING THAT WE SUPPORT YOU.

>> SUPPORT THE STATE IN HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND WHOEVER OUTBREAK OR IF SOMEBODY CAN HELP US PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER BECAUSE I APPRECIATE THAT CONSENSUS AND WE'LL JUST GO WITH IT ON THAT.

>> YEAH, I AGREE.

>> YEAH.

>> I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO IT YET, HOW TO DO IT AND HOW TO ASK THOSE PEOPLE TO ACT QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

>> [INAUDIBLE].

>> YOU AND JENNIFER WHOEVER IS MOST APPROPRIATE IN THE SYSTEM TO HELP US PUT THE RIGHT WORDS TO PAPER.

>> OKAY.

>> TO TRY AND LET DECISION-MAKERS KNOW THAT WE GOT KIDS ACROSS THE STATE, BUT JUST TO HELP, JUST PUT ANOTHER VOICE IN THERE. APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE IN THOSE NUMBERS.

THAT'S OUR REPORT, A REPORT PRESENTATION MOVING ON SEPTEMBER ENROLLMENT NUMBERS. MR. ALLAN.

>> MR. NEWCOMB, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, I BRING TO YOU THE BEST SNAPSHOT WE HAVE AT THIS TIME FOR OUR SEPTEMBER 30TH ACCOUNT.

NOW, KEEP IN MIND THAT THE SEPTEMBER 30 COUNT IS THE MATCH TODAY THAT FUNDING IS BASED ON.

BUT I PROVIDED YOU COMPLIMENTS FOR CHERYL LAWRENCE AND BRANDON JOHNSON WE WORKED WITH THEM VERY CLOSELY SO IT'S A GROUP EFFORT WITH POWERSCHOOL PEOPLE, SCHOOL ENROLLMENT, FOLKS, THE POWS, AND GETTING THESE NUMBERS TO THIS POINT.

I'M GOING TO START WITH UP TO SEVEN CHARTS THEY ALL DEPICT ENROLLMENT IN DIFFERENT WAYS, BUT I WANT TO START WITH THIS ONE.

THIS ONE WAS PROBABLY BEST AT A SNAPSHOT OF IT ALL TO DEPICT OUR KINDERGARTEN THROUGH 12TH GRADE ENROLLMENT.

NOW KEEP IN MIND AT THE TOP, I SAY THIS EVERY YEAR THAT THIS IS ON OFFICIAL ENROLLMENT BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A MOVING TARGET.

THIS YEAR, THERE ARE A LOT OF VARIABLES THAT PLAY INTO THIS SO JUST PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND.

THESE NUMBERS WILL BE CLEANED UP.

NOW, UNOFFICIAL FOR THE 21-22 SCHOOL YEAR, THE OTHER YEARS, WE'RE GIVING YOU FIVE YEARS TO LOOK AT AND COMPARE.

BUT STARTING WITH 17, 18, AND THROUGH 2021, THOSE NUMBERS ARE THE OFFICIAL COUNT THAT WAS BASED ON CLEANING UP AND WHAT THE SUPERINTENDENT SIGNED OFF ON AND THAT TIME THAT WENT TOWARD FUNDING.

WHAT YOU HAVE THERE TO THE FAR RIGHT IS A 21-22 SCHOOL YEAR OF UNOFFICIAL AND THEN TO THE RIGHT IN THE GREEN ARE THE DIFFERENCES.

THESE NUMBERS WILL CERTAINLY CHANGE THEY ARE SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER, BUT I EXPECT THEM TO GO EVEN LOWER I CAN SET A NUMBER OF FACTORS FACTORING INTO THAT.

WE HAVE WE HAVE ABOUT 550 OR SO STUDENTS THAT HAVE GIVEN US NOTIFICATIONS OR FAMILIES THAT HAVE GIVEN US NOTIFICATIONS FOR HOMESCHOOLING.

THAT NUMBER IS UP ABOUT 300 FROM THE PAST SO THAT MAY ANSWER.

>> THAT NUMBER IS NOT IN THAT 53?

>> THAT NUMBER IS NOT IN THAT.

THAT MIGHT BE WHY THAT NUMBER IS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER.

WE HAVEN'T, LIKE I SAID, ABOUT 550 HOME

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SCHOOLERS ON THE BOOKS HERE IN CAROLINE COUNTY FOR THIS YEAR, THAT NUMBER IS VERY MUCH HIGHER THAN IN YEARS PAST WHERE WE'VE RUN ABOUT 250.

MANY PEOPLE HAVE CHOSEN TO HOME-SCHOOL FOR REASONS THAT YOU MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE CONVERSATION THAT THEY MAY HAVE A PERSON COMPROMISED AT HOME, THEY MAY BE LIVING WITH GRANDPARENTS OR THE PARENTS THEMSELVES MAY BE COMPROMISED AND THEY HAVE OPTED TO HOME-SCHOOL FOR VARIOUS REASONS.

THAT'S THEIR CHOICE, THAT'S THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO DO THAT.

THERE YOU HAVE IT FOR THE K THROUGH 12 GRADE, ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE, AND HIGH AND YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCES THERE TO THE RIGHT.

NOW I'D ALSO LIKE TO SHOW YOU THE NEXT GRAPH LOOKS VERY SIMILAR TO IT, BUT INCLUDES PRE-K 3, AND PRE-K 4.

>> NOW BEFORE YOU LEAVE.

>> SURE.

>> BEFORE YOU LEAVE THIS SLIDE, AND I'M SURE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS MIGHT WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS BECAUSE IT IS A VERY INTERESTING PICTURE AND I WAS TRYING TO GRASP IT IN MY HEAD.

LOOKING AT THE SCHOOL BY SCHOOL IN THE ELEMENTARY LOCKER, BUT I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE TOTAL, SO 19/20 WE'RE PLUGGING ALONG NORMAL 19/20 SCHOOL YEAR, 5,506 STUDENTS, I KEEP SAYING KIDS, BUT STUDENTS.

SEPTEMBER 30TH, 19, 2019 AND THIS IS BEFORE PRE-K NUMBERS IT DOESN'T KEEP PRE-K OR THREE-YEAR-OLD PROGRAMS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THEN GOING BACK LAST YEAR AND IN MARCH 20, WE HIT WITH COVID GOING HOME SO COMING BACK, WE KNEW WE WERE COMING BACK VIRTUAL AND 21/20, WE HAVE 5,300 STUDENTS IN MARCH 30TH, TO THE BEST OF OUR KNOWLEDGE, VIRTUALLY.

WE'RE IN THE SAME BALLPARK COMING BACK FULL TIME THIS YEAR IS THE WAY I BASICALLY READ.

>> WELL, AGAIN, THAT NUMBER IS UNOFFICIAL, SEE THE NUMBERS ARE FOUR YEARS PREVIOUS TO THIS, 17,18.

>> BUT YOU THINK IT'S GOING TO GO DOWN SOME MORE?

>> 2021 ARE ALL OFFICIAL.

THE LAST COLUMN IS STILL UNOFFICIAL.

>> I KNOW. YOU SAID YOU THINK IT'S GOING TO GO DOWN MORE?

>> I EXPECT THAT. YEAH. BECAUSE WE HAVE TO JUSTIFY IF A CHILD'S NOT IN THE SEED ON SEPTEMBER 30 WHAT HAPPENED TO THEN WHEN COMING BACK AND AFTER THAT, THAT SORT OF THING.

THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS THAT PLAY INTO THAT SO IT'S POSSIBLE, CERTAINLY.

HIGHLY POSSIBLE. I WOULD BET MONEY ON IT YES.

>> THAT'S VERY INTERESTING.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WHILE WE WERE ALL FOR A YEAR WITHIN REALLY WANT TO RUN ON BUSES, BUT WE KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO MOVE INTO THE AREA.

I'VE HEARD WE HAD SOME GOOD ENROLLMENT NUMBERS.

>> [INAUDIBLE] THE INCREASES IS IN THE EL NUMBER.

>> INCREASES IS IN THE EL.

>> WE GO THROUGH THIS EVERY YEAR, WE GET RID OF SOME, WE CAN GAIN SOME.

THIS YEAR WE'VE BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH CHERYL LAWRENCE AND BRANDY JOHNSON AND WE'RE DOING THE NEW ONLINE ENROLLMENT.

I'M LIKE, WELL, CHERYL I HAVE 20 HOME SCHOOLERS THAT I'VE JUST PROCESSED AND SHE'S LIKE, WELL, WE HAVE 45 IN THE QUEUE TO GET ENROLLED.

THAT'S WHAT I TAKE FROM WE GAIN SOME AND GET TO THE OTHER SO.

>> IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE WHEN YOU STEP ON A SCALE, IT'S GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT I'VE TOLD YOU AND IT MIGHT GO DOWN, MIGHT GO UP IT'S HARD TO KNOW WHY.

BUT THE TALE OF THE TAPE SO TO SPEAK IT.

IT IS WHAT IT IS. IT'S GREAT THAT YOU'RE MONITORING IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT.

>> WE'VE BEEN ON IT. THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER TRADITIONALLY IS THE TIME THAT WE ARE ON IT.

>> YOU KEEP THAT SCALE CALIBRATED SO IT'S ACCURATE AS YOU CAN BE.

>> WE'RE GETTING WEIGHED EVERY HOUR.

>> YEAH. [LAUGHTER]

>> THIS IS GETTING ON A SCALE OR USING A BLOOD PRESSURE CUFF OR WHATEVER AT HOME.

IT'S UNOFFICIAL TO YOU AND THE DOCTOR AND THEY SAY, THIS WOULD BE OFFICIAL KNOW-HOW.

>> IT ALL DEPENDS IF YOU'VE TAKEN YOUR WORK PILL THAT DAY TOO. [LAUGHTER]

>> YEAH. IF YOU'RE A WRESTLER, DON'T EAT ANYTHING FOR A DAY SO YOU CAN MAKE WEIGHT.

BUT THEN AFTERWARD, FEEL FREE, BUT IT'S UNFORTUNATELY YOU CAN'T MASSAGE THESE NUMBERS ARE GOING TO BE WHAT THEY ARE.

>> YES. BECAUSE OF THE TIMES THAT WE'RE LIVING IN.

>> YEAH.

>> THEY COULD BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

IT'S EVEN MORE OF A MOVING TARGET THAN IN YEARS PAST.

>> YEAH.

>> I REALLY JUST WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF THAT.

>> YES, SO THAT'S GOOD INFORMATION.

>> ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS LAST SLIDE? OKAY, SO AND THEN WE'LL GO AND LOOK, AND WE'LL LOOK FOR THE FUTURE HERE.

WE'LL LOOK TOWARD THE FUTURE AND IN THIS CHART INCLUDES PRE-K 3 AND PRE-K

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4 WHERE YOU SEE THEN THAT'S PUTS US MORE INTO THE POSITIVE FIGURES, WHICH MAY DISPEL SOME OF THE MYTH ABOUT THE YOUNGER CHILDREN STAYING HOME BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE CERTAINLY ENROLLING THEIR PRE-K CHILD HERE AND SENDING THEM TO SCHOOL.

THIS CHANGES THINGS.

WHEN WE SAY WE LOOK TOWARD THE FUTURE, THESE ARE CHILDREN THAT WE COULD BE GETTING BACK BEGINNING OR FULL-TIME K THROUGH 12 NEXT YEAR.

AS YOU SEE THERE, THAT THAT CERTAINLY DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE WITH THE DIFFERENCE FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR FROM FOR THE ELEMENTARY 32.

THEN STILL HAVE SEEMS LIKE MIDDLE-SCHOOL IS WHERE WE'VE TAKEN OUR HEAVIEST IT FOR SOME REASON.

I AM PROBABLY THE MORE OF THEM HAVE BEEN IN MIDDLE SCHOOL, HOME SCHOOL, JUST TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH.

THEN THERE'S AN INCREASE WITH THE HIGH. IT'S VERY INTERESTING.

>> [INAUDIBLE] CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. AS YOU SEE STUDENT MATRICULATE UP FROM ELEMENTARY TO MIDDLE SCHOOL.

LOCKERMAN HAD A RATHER LARGE EIGHTH-GRADE CLASS MOVE INTO NORTH CAROLINE HIGH SCHOOL INTO NINTH GRADE AND THE INCOMING CLASS FROM FIFTH GRADE IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS INTO SIXTH GRADE WAS SMALLER THAN THE EXITING CLASS.

LOCKERMAN HAS A WHOLE GUT.

THEY WERE TOP-HEAVY, GOT RID OF THE HEAVY TOP BROUGHT IN A SMALLER BOTTLE.

SO IN LOCKERMAN DOWN FIVE KIDS.

IT'S BECAUSE AS THEY MOVE OUT UP THE SCALE.

SO A YEAR [INAUDIBLE] PICTURE OF NUMBERS CAN BE OFF IF YOU HAVE A BIG CLASS-LEAVING AND A SMALL ONE COMING IN.

LIKE THIS YEAR, IF WE BROKE IT DOWN BY GRADE LEVEL, THIS YEAR'S EIGHTH GRADE CLASS AT LOCKERMAN, AND WE HAVE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE, WE GET TO IT.

IF YOU HAVE A BIG CLASS THAT'S GOING TO BLOW YOUR NEXT SCHOOL LEVEL UP AS YOU MOVE UP ACROSS THE GRADE LEVELS.

ELEMENTARY IS THE ODDBALL BECAUSE IT REALLY DOESN'T HAPPEN UNLESS YOU HAVE A LARGE TOP BECOMES OFF.

[INAUDIBLE] ELEMENTARIES TEND TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE STABLE, BUT YOUR MIDDLES AND HIGHS CAN FLUCTUATE BASED ON THAT GREEN BAND OF MOVING UP AND GOING OUT.

SO JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT PIECE OUT WHERE LOCKERMAN IS A MINUS FIVE.

BUT AGAIN, THAT NINTH-GRADE CLASS COMING UP WAS DEFINITELY A GOOD SIZE.

NORTH HIGH HAS A BIG 10TH GRADE CLASS AND A BIG 9TH GRADE CLASS, AND 8TH GRADE CLASS IN LOCKERMAN IS BIG AS WELL.

NORTH HIGH IS LIKELY GOING TO BE BETWEEN 1250 AND 1275 PROBABLY NEXT YEAR.

JUST BASED OFF [OVERLAPPING] OF THAT PROJECTION AS IT MOVES ON.

IT'S A SCALE AS MR. MARTIN SAID.

WE'VE SEEN THESE FLUCTUATIONS AND CLASS SIZES FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND WE COULD GO BACK IN TIME AND LOOK AT 10 YEARS.

BUT THIS YEAR I DECIDED TO GIVE ME JUST FIVE YEARS NOT TO MAKE IT TOO OVERWHELMING.

SOMETHING ELSE TO REMEMBER HERE IS THAT THERE'S NUMBERS FOR THE '21, '22 SCHOOL YEAR WILL BECOME MORE OFFICIAL WHEN THEY DETERMINE THE FTES, THE FULL-TIME EQUIVALENTS, THAT THING THROUGH [INAUDIBLE] FACTORS IN WITH ALL THAT, ALL THAT.

THAT ALL GETS FACTORED IN AND MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

AGAIN, THIS IS UNOFFICIAL.

ALWAYS SAY IT'S UNOFFICIAL, THIS YEAR MORE UNOFFICIAL [LAUGHTER] OKAY, SO THE OTHER CHARTS, THEY ARE REALLY JUST FOR YOUR VIEWING PLEASURE.

THAT OTHER GRAPHS THAT SHOW THEM HOW IT'S GOING UP AND DOWN FOR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND HIGH SCHOOL.

JUST TO MAKE NAME TOO VERY COMPLIMENTARY OF CAROLINE COUNTY SCHOOL SYSTEM.

WE HAVE PROBABLY THE LARGEST NUMBER OF CHILDREN COMING FROM OUT OF COUNTY THIS YEAR THAN WE EVER HAVE HAD.

WE HAVE 10 TUITION PAYERS AND WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 20 TEACHERS THAT ARE BRINGING THEIR CHILDREN FROM OUT OF COUNTY INTO COUNTY, WHICH WE WILL BE ABLE TO COUNT THEM FOR STATE AID.

THAT'S A BENEFIT.

THEY ARE ALSO INCLUDED IN THERE.

>> LET'S HOPE THAT'S A TREND.

IT'S PRETTY COOL. IT'S COMPLEMENT LIKE YOU SAID.

>> YES, IT IS. I'VE NEVER SEEN SO MANY TUITION PAYERS BEFORE AND THAT'S VERY GOOD.

ANY QUESTIONS WITH THIS?

>> HEARING NONE. BILL THANK YOU.

BOARD MEMBERS ANY FINAL QUESTIONS?

>> WELCOME. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THANK YOU.

>> GREAT REPORT.

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>> THANK YOU.

>> MOVING ON. THE NEXT PRESENTATION, CLASS SIZE REPORT.

>> ALL RIGHT. THAT IS ME [OVERLAPPING] GOOD EVENING.

DR. SIMONS, PRESIDENT [INAUDIBLE] MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

FIRST, I WANT TO SAY THIS IS A REPORT THAT IS HAS TYPICALLY IN THE PAST BEEN DONE BY SUZANNE JONES AND I KNOW SHE USED TO LOVE TO GET UP AND DO A SONG AND A DANCE.

[LAUGHTER] I'M SIMPLY GOING TO REPORT THE DATA.

[LAUGHTER] SO SORRY TO DISAPPOINT ANYONE TONIGHT.

BUT I DO COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TO SHARE CLASS SIZE REPORTS FOR ELEMENTARY AND SECONDARY CLASSROOMS. I'M THE FIRST REPORT WHICH IS UP THERE CURRENTLY IS FOR EACH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

NOW, IF YOU WERE TO COMPARE THE REPORT THAT BILL JUST SHARED WITH THE UNOFFICIAL ENROLLMENT NUMBERS AND THE STUDENT NUMBERS ON THIS CHART.

REMEMBER, EVERYDAY CHANGES. THIS DATA, THE DAY OF THE SCALE WAS SEPTEMBER 27TH WAS THE WAY IN.

IT'S SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN THE NUMBERS OF SEPTEMBER 30TH, JUST SO IF YOU SEE DIFFERENCES THERE.

[NOISE] WE TAKE A LOOK AT THIS DATA EACH YEAR TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE STUDENT-TO-TEACHER RATIO AND WHERE DO WE NEED TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS FOR AN ADDITIONAL ELEMENTARY CLASSROOM OR POTENTIALLY A LESS CLASSROOM AS STUDENTS MOVE UP.

YOU SEE THAT AT GREENSBORO ELEMENTARY, EACH K THROUGH FIFTH GRADE HAS SIX TEACHERS.

AT EACH GRADE LEVEL WITH THE AVERAGE CLASS SIZE BEING 19.

AT RIGIDLY ELEMENTARY, ALL EXCEPT FOR FOURTH GRADE.

FOURTH GRADE HAS THREE TEACHERS BECAUSE OF THEIR NUMBERS.

HOWEVER, THE OTHER GRADES HAVE FOUR TEACHERS PER GRADE WITH AN AVERAGE OF 17 STUDENTS IN A CLASSROOM.

DENTON ELEMENTARY RANGE BETWEEN FIVE AND SIX TEACHERS PER GRADE LEVEL, WITH AN AVERAGE OF AROUND 17 STUDENTS AS WELL.

PRESTON ELEMENTARY CURRENTLY, MOST GRADES HAVE THREE CLASSROOMS, ALTHOUGH KINDERGARTEN PUSHED OVER THAT EDGE TO GET TO FOUR TEACHERS, AND THEIR AVERAGE IS AROUND 19 STUDENTS PER CLASSROOM.

FEDERALSBURG IS RIGHT NOW OUR LOWEST RATIO.

WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 14 STUDENTS IN EACH GRADE LEVEL.

THE MAJORITY OF GRADES HAVE FOUR TEACHERS, WITH SECOND GRADE BEING THE ANOMALY WITH THREE TEACHERS.

YOU SEE THAT IN ELEMENTARY, OVERALL, WE HAVE 132 CLASSROOM TEACHERS WITH A RATIO OF 17 STUDENTS PER CLASSROOM.

[NOISE] NEXT, WE HAVE SECONDARY SCHOOLS.

YOU WILL SEE HERE THAT WE BROKE IT DOWN BY SIMPLY THE DEPARTMENT, NOT EACH INDIVIDUAL CLASS SECTION.

YOU SEE THAT AT NORTH CAROLINE HIGH SCHOOL, THE MAXIMUM STUDENT IN ANY GIVEN CLASS, MAXIMUM NUMBER OF STUDENTS WOULD BE 31, THE MINIMUM WOULD BE EIGHT, AND YOU SEE IT RANGES ANYWHERE THERE.

WHEN WE SEE, AND I'LL LOOK AT COLONEL HIGH NEXT AND THEN EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT.

YOU SEE THAT AT COLONEL HIGH, THE SMALLEST CLASS SIZE IS FOUR STUDENTS WITH THE HIGHEST CLASS SIZE DATA IN SOCIAL STUDIES AT 30 STUDENTS.

BOTH LARGE SCHOOLS AND SMALL SCHOOLS CHALLENGE SCHEDULING BUT IN VERY DIFFERENT WAYS.

A LARGE SCHOOL SUCH AS NORTH CAROLINA, WHEN YOU SEE HIGHER NUMBERS, 28, 31 CLASS SIZES, IT IS TYPICALLY, ARE THERE ENOUGH TEACHERS TO TEACH IN THAT CONTENT? BUT THEN YOU ALSO HAVE, FOR INSTANCE, IN WORLD LANGUAGE IN BOTH HIGH SCHOOLS.

WE NOW HAVE ENGLISH AS A FOREIGN LANGUAGE.

FOR SOME OF OUR ELL STUDENTS, EARN WORLD LANGUAGE CREDIT WHILE TAKING ENGLISH AS A FOREIGN LANGUAGE, BUT THAT IS A SMALLER NUMBER OF STUDENTS SO THE SMALLEST CLASS SIZE WOULD BE FIVE.

AT COLONEL WHERE YOU SEE FOUR STUDENTS IN ONE COURSE,

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TYPICALLY WE WOULD NOT OFFER A COURSE WITH JUST THOSE FEW STUDENTS, BUT WE DO HAVE ANOMALIES WHERE A TEACHER COULD HAVE FOUR STUDENTS ENROLLED IN ONE COURSE OF CHEMISTRY, FOR EXAMPLE, AND ANOTHER COURSE OF AN ADVANCED SCIENCE CLASS, WHERE IN THEIR GIVEN CLASSROOM THEY MIGHT HAVE 12 OR 13 STUDENTS BUT THE TEACHER IS ACTUALLY HAVING TWO DIFFERENT CORE SECTIONS AT A TIME.

IF WE GO TO LOCKERMAN AND COLONEL, YOU SEE THAT THE AVERAGE CLASS SIZES OR THE CLASS SIZES RANGE ANYWHERE FROM 32-20.

AT LOCKERMAN AND AT COLONEL MIDDLE, WITH A SMALLER SIZE SCHOOL, THEY RANGE FROM 15 AS A MINIMUM TO 28 IN THEIR LARGER CLASSES.

ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT CLASS SIZE?

>> YES. ONE OF THE THINGS I USED TO FIND FRUSTRATING WHEN I TAUGHT ENGLISH NINE ACROSS THE BOARD, AND I WOULD HAVE 17 IN ONE PERIOD AND THEN 30 IN ANOTHER PERIOD.

>>YES, AND I UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION, AND WHAT WOULD BE NICE IS IF YOU COULD TAKE THE TOTAL NUMBER AND DIVIDE IT BETWEEN THE THREE PERIODS THAT YOU TEACH THROUGHOUT [OVERLAPPING] THE DAY.

>>RIGHT.

>>HOWEVER, WHEN WE HAVE THINGS SUCH AS ADVANCED PLACEMENT, AP COURSES OR CCTC COURSES, THERE'S A SCIENCE TO SCHEDULING AND I KNOW YOU LIVED SCHEDULING AT THE HIGH SCHOOL.

BUT IF AP TEACHERS ARE TEACHING FOURTH BLOCK AND CCTC STUDENTS CAN ONLY TAKE ENGLISH DURING FOURTH BLOCK BECAUSE THEY ARE IN CCTC COURSES FOR A SECOND AND THIRD, IT LIMITS THE NUMBER.

>>THE NUMBER OF AVAILABLE SECTIONS.

>> SURE.

>> THE OTHER PART THAT COMES INTO, AND I KNOW MS. JACKMILL YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH IT AS WELL, SEEING IT, THE MORE OPTIONS FOR STUDENTS ARE GREAT, AND I'M GLAD WE CAN OFFER THE OPTIONS WE DO.

BUT WHEN WE OFFER OPTIONS THAT ARE NOT HIGHLY POPULAR OPTIONS, THE MORE YOU SPECIALIZE WITHIN A CONTENT AREA WITH COURSE OFFERINGS, THE SMALLER THE PIE BECOMES, AND WHEN YOU HAVE A SECTION OF SOMETHING, I DON'T CARE WHAT IT IS, BUT A SCHOOL THE SIZE OF NORTH CAROLINE HIGH SCHOOL WITH OVER 1,200 KIDS.

IF WE OFFER A SECTION OF SOMETHING WITH 12 KIDS IN IT THAT THEY REALLY WANT TO TAKE, SAY AP CALC, GREAT COURSE PROGRESSION FOR COLLEGE.

AP CALC, RUNS ALL YEAR LONG, THE SAME KIDS.

I TAKE ONE TEACHER OUT OF THE MIX FOR THE SAME 12 KIDS ALL YEAR, GREAT OPTION FOR THEM, BUT ALSO I NOW HAVE TWO SECTIONS IN THE SCHEDULE.

I HAVE TWO SPOTS OUT OF EIGHT WHOLE SPOTS IN THE DAY WHERE 12 KIDS ARE IN.

NOW I'VE GOT SAY ANOTHER 18 KIDS I COULD PUT IN THERE IF WE WERE TRYING TO HIT 30, OR SAY WE'RE GOING TO BE NICE AND HIT AT 22.

I'VE GOT 10 OTHER KIDS I CAN PUT IT IN THERE, THEN THEY'LL ALL HAVE TO FIND SOMEWHERE ELSE TO GO, AND IT BLOWS UP SOMETHING ELSE A LITTLE BIT LARGER.

THE MORE SPECIALIZED THINGS YOU HAVE, AGAIN, OPTIONS ARE GREAT, BUT THAT DOES RUN INTO THE RISK OF SCHEDULING IT NORTH, RUNNING INTO THE ISSUE OF REALLY MAKING THINGS LARGE SOMEWHERE.

AT COLONEL ON THE OTHER SIDE, THE CHALLENGE OF A SMALL SCHOOL IS, HISTORICALLY CAROLINE COUNTY HAS TRIED TO PROVIDE AT LEAST FOR LAST SEVERAL YEARS, WE TRY TO PROVIDE THE SAME OPTIONS ON BOTH ENDS OF THE COUNTY FOR THE UPPER-LEVEL COURSES.

BUT IN DOING SO, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION POINT GOING OKAY WE MAY HAVE A SECTION OF SIX KIDS AND AP CALC AND I KNOW IT'S MORE THAN THAT BUT YOU CAN HAVE SIX KIDS IN AN AP COURSE AND GOING OKAY, IS IT WORTH US RUNNING IT? AND THEN AT A SCHOOL LIKE COLONEL, THEY'VE GOT TO LOOK AT IT AND GO OKAY, IF I OFFER THIS CLASS OF SIX IN A MATH, DO I HAVE ENOUGH MATH TEACHERS AND DO I NOT BLOW MY OTHER MATH CLASSES UP SO LARGE THAT THE TEACHER CAN HANDLE THEM AND WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO OFFER? BUT EVERY TIME YOU OFFER THEM SPECIALIZED OPTIONS, ANOTHER TEACHER IN ENGLISH IS ONE OF THE BEST EXAMPLES OF ITS SOCIAL STUDIES ARE THE SAME.

I DON'T CARE WHO YOU ARE YOU'RE TAKEN ENGLISH, NINE, 10, 11, 12, AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SPECIALIZE IN ANY OF YOUR ENGLISH CLASSES UNTIL 11, 12, AND YOU CHOOSE THE AP.

ENGLISH 9 AND 10, DEFINITELY, WHEN YOU START OFFERING THE SPECIALIZED.

FOR A NINTH GRADER OR A TENTH GRADER, EVERYBODY'S GOT TO GET NOS, SO IN ORDER TO OFFER THOSE OTHER SPECIALIZED AREAS IN ENGLISH, THE OTHER ENGLISH TEACHERS THEN CARRY THE BURDEN IN THE COURSES THAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS TO TAKE.

IT'S LIKE IN SOCIAL STUDIES.

IF I'M TEACHING THE AP COURSES, TRADITIONALLY I'VE GOT A SMALLER FORCE LOAD, BUT THE ONES WHO WERE TEACHING US GOVERNMENT WORLD WHICH ALL KIDS NEED,

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TEND TO BE THE ONES THAT BLOW UP LARGER JUST BECAUSE IT'S TO USE YOUR SCALE ANALOGY, IF I MAKE SOMEBODY ELSE LEANER, SOMEBODY IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE BIGGER.

WHICH IS ALSO THE PROBLEM MRS. WINTER WAS TALKING ABOUT WITH LIKE CCTC COURSES.

YOU'LL SEE OUR KIDS IN CCTC COURSES, THEY NEED CORPS, THEIR CORE CONTENT AREAS OR READING OR ENGLISH, MATH, SCIENCE, SOCIAL STUDIES.

IF THEY'RE AT THE TECH CENTER OF PERIODS ONE THROUGH THREE, YOU GOT ALL FOR A CORE COURSE FOR A PERIOD FORM BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT TO GET THAT ENGLISH AND MATH IN.

COLONEL CAN SEE THE SAME, NORTH DEFINITELY DOES.

THAT FOURTH BLOCK CORE COURSE IS USUALLY FULL.

IT'S JUST FULL BECAUSE YOU'RE RUNNING OUT OF OPTIONS AND WHERE ELSE TO PUT KIDS AND [NOISE] IT'S A SIMPLE SCALE PIECE SO THE MORE SMALLER YOU HAVE, SOMEBODY'S GOING TO GET THE BIG ONE SOMEWHERE WHICH WILL MAKE SENSE.

[OVERLAPPING] MIDDLE SCHOOLS HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY WHEN IT'S SCHEDULED BECAUSE THEY CAN, FOR THE MOST PART, PARSE IT OUT.

MATH THOUGH IT'S AWESOME WITH KIDS MOVING AHEAD IN MATH OR SOME KIDS NEED A LITTLE BIT KIND OF MATH TO BUILD THEM UP.

BUT A MIDDLE SCHOOL WHEREBY IT TAKES FOR THE MOST PART, THE SAME READING IN ENGLISH LANGUAGE ARTS, SAME SOCIAL STUDIES, AND SAME SCIENCE, SO THOSE THREE QUARTERS ARE THE SAME.

FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL, FOR THE MOST PART, YOU CAN GET ON REALLY CLOSE BUT HIGH SCHOOLS THAT JUST GETS TO BE A REALLY CHALLENGING BALANCE.

[OVERLAPPING] THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION BECAUSE IT'S TOUGH.

>>THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANTED TO ADD IS AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT.

AGAIN AS THE BUDGET SEASON ROLLS AROUND AS TO THE POSITIVES AND THE NEGATIVES TO THE SIZE, AND ARE THERE AREAS THAT CAN BE SHIFTED, OR ARE THERE AREAS THAT NEED ADDITIONAL STAFFING.

>> IT'S GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH CLASS SIZE BUT DON'T TAKE THIS WRONG, I'M NOT RILED UP.

THE WORDS THAT COULD GET SOMEBODY RILED UP IS WHEN THEY HEAR ENGLISH AS A FOREIGN LANGUAGE.

THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WILL HEAR THAT AND SAY, WHAT? I'M SURE. YOU'RE WELL AWARE, I'M NOT TELLING YOU THAT YOU DON'T KNOW, IT'S JUST THAT PHRASE.

>> BUT THAT'S WHAT IT IS THOUGH.

>> I UNDERSTAND.

>> THAT'S A GOOD POINT AND WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

I'VE MADE NOW GETTING WAY OFF CLASS SIZE POINT, BUT PEOPLE WANT TO COME AND TALK ABOUT OUR BUDGETS AND EVERYTHING COMES BACK TO THE BUDGET SOMETIMES AND IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING AND I THINK I'VE SAID IT IN THIS BOARD BEFORE AND I'M PARAPHRASING A LITTLE BIT, BUT I THINK THE MOST NUMEROUS POSITIONS WE'VE HIRED IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS EVERY YEAR WE HIRE AT LEAST ONE, IF NOT TWO, IF NOT THREE, ENGLISH LANGUAGE LEARNING TEACHERS, WE'VE HIRED MORE THAN ONE.

NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT, WE NEED TO TEACH THE KIDS THAT SHOW UP AT OUR DOOR, AND THAT'S OUR JOB TO DO.

BUT THERE'S OTHER NEEDS, OTHER DEMANDS, WHETHER IT'S IAS OR A PHYSICS TEACHER OR A PHYSICAL ED, I MEAN, IT'S A JUGGLING ACT AND OUR STAFF BRINGS US THE BEST RECOMMENDATIONS THEY CAN PULL TOGETHER AND THAT'S THE ANSWERS.

A LOT OF TIMES THEY ARE TAKING SOMETHING AWAY, BUT ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE IMPACTS OUR BUDGET.

>> JUST THE WORDS ENGLISH AS A FOREIGN LANGUAGE [OVERLAPPING] AND IT'S JUST OUT OF CONTEXT, IT MAY BE TAKEN VERY WRONG.

PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND, THEY NEED TO HEAR THAT EXPLANATION.

IT'S THE ONLY REASON I SAY IT DUE TO CLASS SIZE, BUT PEOPLE WILL TAKE THINGS OUT OF CONTEXT AND YOU GET IT. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

>> [OVERLAPPING] WHEN I WENT BACK TO COLLEGE TO BECOME A TEACHER I HAD TO TAKE LINGUISTICS.

I KNOW WHAT IT WAS, BUT THEY SAID I HAD TO TAKE IT SO I TOOK IT.

THEY KEPT TALKING ABOUT ESOL AND TESOL AND I'M LIKE, WHAT THE HECK? WRITE NEWS TO GOOD ANGEL, BAD ANGEL, GOOD ANGEL'S LIKE, "ASK HIM WHAT IT MEANS" AND BAD ANGEL WAS LIKE, "OH NO, I DON'T WANT TO LOOK STUPID IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY." THE GOOD ANGELS LIKE YOU JUST SPENT $600.

[LAUGHTER] YEAH, YOU'RE ALREADY A NERD. YOU REALLY WANT TO ADD TO IT? I'M HAVING THIS LITTLE INNER DISCUSSIONS OF FOLLOWING MY HEART WHATEVER.

WHAT'S ESOL AND IT TEACHES US LIKE STOPS DEAD.

I'M LIKE, "WHAT?" SHE GOES, "DON'T YOU ALL KNOW WHAT IT IS?" OF COURSE, THE WHOLE CLASS HAS GONE UH-HUH.

SHE MAKES ME FEEL ABOUT THIS SMALL BUT THEN JERSEY GIRL FINALLY KICKED IN AND I'M LIKE, I'M THE ONLY IDIOT HERE, BUT I STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT ESOL MEANS.

SHE GOES, "ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE," AND I'M LIKE, HUH, BECAUSE WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT'S A SECOND LANGUAGE?

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SHE GOES, "YOU'RE BORN HERE. YOU SPEAK ENGLISH." I'M LIKE, "YEAH. I'M WITH YOU." SHE GOES, 'BUT IF YOU'RE BORN IN SPAIN, WHAT'S YOUR FIRST LANGUAGE?" I THOUGHT IT WAS A TRICK QUESTION. I'M LIKE, "SPANISH." SHE GOES, "YEAH," AND I'M LIKE, "I GOT ONE RIGHT." SHE GOES, "THEN YOU'RE GOING TO LEARN ENGLISH." I'M LIKE, "YEAH." SHE GOES, "THAT'S THE SECOND LANGUAGE." I'M LIKE, "WELL, WHAT'S TESOL?" [LAUGHTER] SHE SAID, "TEACHING IT AS A SECOND LANGUAGE AND TEACHING THAT AS A SECOND LANGUAGE IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM TEACHING AN ENGLISH CLASS." I COME TO FIND OUT 90 PERCENT OF THE CLASS DID NOT KNOW WHAT IT MEANT EITHER BUT DIDN'T WANT TO ADMIT IT.

>> WELL, WE PROBABLY SHOULD REMEMBER THAT WHEN WE'RE SAYING ACRONYMS AND ALL THAT STUFF TOO. GOOD STUFF.

THANK YOU. CLASS SIZE REPORT.

GOOD PRESENTATION. [NOISE]

>> THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE, OUR NEXT REPORT IS THE 21/22 PROJECT CALENDAR.

>> GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT NEWCOMB, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, AND DR. SIMMONS.

I COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TO SHARE OUR PUBLIC BUDGET CALENDAR, WHICH OUTLINES THE DATES THAT OUR FY 23 BUDGET WILL BE A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION.

I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE LOOK AT THE PDF BECAUSE THE SUMMARY CHART HAS A TYPO AND IT'S ACTUALLY MISSING ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT DATES, WHICH IS THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET APPROVAL.

THE CHART SHOULD SAY THAT ON TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 1ST, THE BUDGET WILL BE APPROVED AT THE BOARD MEETING.

THEN ON WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 2ND, THE APPROVED BUDGET WILL BE SUBMITTED TO THE CAROLINE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

IF YOU PULL UP THE PDF, THE DATES ARE CORRECT.

JUST TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW, THE FY 23 BUDGET DOESN'T ACTUALLY THE ACTUAL BUDGET DOESN'T START UNTIL JULY 1ST, 2022.

HOWEVER, WE HAVE TO START THE BUDGET PROCESS NOW IN ORDER TO MAKE ALL THE TIMELINES THAT ARE REQUIRED BY LAW.

TO GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND ON THE PROCESS THAT WE TYPICALLY FOLLOW HERE IN CAROLINE COUNTY, NEXT WEEK, I WILL SEND OUT AN EMAIL WITH A TEMPLATE TO ALL THE PRINCIPALS, DIRECTORS, SUPERVISORS, ASKING THEM FOR THEIR BUDGET REQUESTS FOR THAT FY23 BUDGET.

THE BUDGET REQUESTS ARE TYPICALLY DUE BACK THE END OF OCTOBER, AND THEN DURING THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER, THE BUDGET TEAM, WHICH CONSISTS OF THE SUPERINTENDENT, ALL THREE DIRECTORS, MRS. YAKOS THE SUPERVISOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES, AND MYSELF, WE MEET WITH EACH PRINCIPAL AND DEPARTMENT INDIVIDUALLY SO THAT WE, AS A BUDGET TEAM CAN GAIN A DEEPER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING, AND IT ALSO GIVES US A CHANCE TO ASK THEM QUESTIONS SO THAT WE CAN GET MORE INFO TO ASSESS THE NEEDS OF THE SYSTEM.

THEN ONCE THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN COMPLETED, THE BUDGET TEAM COMPILES THE REQUESTS AND LIST THEM IN PRIORITY ORDER.

THIS IS WHAT WE TYPICALLY COME BEFORE YOU AT THE BOARD MEETING IN DECEMBER WITH THAT ONE-PAGE SUMMARY, WHICH LISTS THE SAME SERVICES WHERE THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS HAS GONE UP.

THEN WE LIST THE ADDITIONS THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IN PRIORITY ORDER, AND JUST THE THINGS THAT JUST DROP OFF THE LIST BECAUSE THERE'S NO MONETARY AND NOT ENOUGH FUNDING AVAILABLE.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR BUDGET PROCESS OR THE BUDGET CALENDAR?

>> PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. THANK YOU.

GREAT. MOVING ON, THERE ARE GRANT UPDATE FOR THE ARP/ESSER, WHICH STANDS FOR SINCE WE'RE TALKING [NOISE] ABOUT ACRONYMS, I CALL IT THE COVID FEDERAL MONEY. [LAUGHTER]

>> THAT'S THE EASIEST WAY TO REMEMBER IT BECAUSE IF EVERY ITERATION OF THAT.

IT IS THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN AND ESSER ELEMENTARY, SECONDARY.

I CAN'T DO THE REST. I'LL BE HONEST.

>> SCHOOL EMERGENCY RELIEF.

>> THANK YOU. [LAUGHTER]

>> GOOD. THANK YOU, AARON.

I APPRECIATE THE [LAUGHTER] TALLEST THERE.

IT'S GETTING A LITTLE LATER.

JUST AS A REMINDER TO THE BOARD WITH THE TIMELINE THAT WE WENT THROUGH THE FUNDING IN THE ARP/ESSER GRANT IS AVAILABLE THROUGH SEPTEMBER OF 2024.

THE APPLICATION PROCESS FOR US WAS DUE AUGUST 13.

THE ORIGINAL GRANT WAS GOING TO BE SUBMITTED PRIOR TO THAT, AND THEN THE STATE EXTENDED IT TO AUGUST 13.

WE HIT OUR GRANT SUBMISSION DATE ON THAT.

REVISIONS CAME BACK FOR ALL SCHOOL SYSTEMS TO HAVE TO ADJUST A FEW ITEMS,

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ONE OF WHICH WAS ONE THAT THEY DIDN'T ASK FOR, AND THEN THEY GRACIOUSLY EXPLAINED TO ALL SCHOOL SYSTEMS AND LITTLE MEETINGS AND ALL OF THAT SAID THE BONUS QUESTION THAT WE DECIDED TO GIVE YOU WAS EXCITED TO CALL IT A BONUS QUESTION.

IT WAS ONE OF THE THREE TO ALL OF US THAT WAS NEVER IN THE ORIGINAL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

BUT WE HIT THE BONUS QUESTION AND ACTUALLY WE FOUND OUT TOWARDS THE END OF LAST WEEK THAT WE DID RECEIVE FUNDING FOR OUR ARP/ESSER GRANT.

THE APPLICATION WAS APPROVED FOR THE GRANT.

RACHEL, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

THIS WAS PULLED FROM THE PRESENTATION THAT WE HAD AT THE END OF JULY.

WE JUST WENT OVER SORT OF THE ALLOWABLE EXPENSES THAT WERE IN THE ARP/ESSER GRANT.

THE TOTAL AMOUNT TO CAROLINE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS FROM THIS GRANT, AND AGAIN, ITS FEDERAL MONEY IS 13.7 MILLION ROUGHLY IS WHERE IT FALLS.

THERE WERE CAVEATS WITHIN THE EXPENDITURES.

AT LEAST 20 PERCENT MUST BE ALLOCATED TO ADDRESS LEARNING LOSS THROUGH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF EVIDENCE-BASED INTERVENTIONS DURING OUT-OF-SCHOOL TIME THAT SUMMER BEFORE OR AFTER SCHOOL, AND INCLUDES SOCIAL-EMOTIONAL LEARNING.

I'M NOT GOING TO READ THROUGH ALL OF THE AVAILABLE OR ALLOWABLE EXPENSES BUT WE DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT OUR EXPENSES WERE.

ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND, WE REALLY TRIED TO KEEP IN MIND AND WE DISCUSSED THIS AT THE WORK SESSION, WAS THAT THE CONSIDERATION THAT DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU CHOOSE TO USE THIS FUNDING FOR, YOU REALLY SET YOURSELF UP FOR A SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL FUNDING CLIFF IN SEPTEMBER 2024 IF YOU USE IT [NOISE] FOR THINGS THAT ARE RECURRING EXPENSES THAT YOU CANNOT GET IN YOUR LOCAL BUDGET.

WE HAD TO BE VERY COGNIZANT OF THAT PIECE OF THINKING OF HOW WE WERE GOING TO USE THESE FUNDS TO MAXIMIZE WHAT WE CAN DO FOR KIDS AND JUST WHAT TO TRY TO GET US AHEAD ON SOME CALLS AS BEST AS WE POSSIBLY COULD.

YOU'LL NOTICE, THERE WERE THINGS YOU COULD USE IT FOR SOME SALARY-TYPE ITEMS, BUT ALL THAT DOES IS PUTS YOU UP FOR A FUNDING CLIFF UNLESS YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING OUT THERE TO COVER IT AT THE END BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO CATCH UP WITH YOU.

IF YOU FLIP OVER AND WE TRIED TO COMBINE INTO WHEN WE DISCUSSED IN JULY, MARYLAND HAD THREE PRIORITIES WHEN THEY PROVIDE US WITH THE APPLICATION, WE HAD TO SUBMIT.

THEY REALLY DRILL IT DOWN TO TWO.

THEY COMBINE THE SECOND AND THIRD PRIORITIES.

THE FIRST WAS SAFE RETURN TO IN-PERSON INSTRUCTION, WHICH WAS THE SAME ONE WHICH WAS PART OF THEIR ORIGINAL PRIORITY.

WE UTILIZE THIS FUNDING TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL FLOATERS TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.

WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT HOW THE NURSES ARE TAXED.

OUR SUPPORT FOR NURSES IS LOW.

WE WANTED TO ADD MORE OF A PERMANENT NURSE POSITION THAT COULD SERVE AS A SYSTEM TO HELP OUT WITH CONTACT TRACING BUT ALSO BE AVAILABLE TO FLOW BETWEEN SCHOOLS BECAUSE MS. VIRGINIA AS YOU'VE POINTED OUT EARLIER HOW ARE THEY EVEN GET IN THE REGULAR JOBS DONE? IT'S HARD. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.

HAVING AN ADDITIONAL FLOW OF NURSE GIVES US THE POSSIBILITY THAT WE'RE SCHOOLS OF A HIGHER MEDICAL NEED OR HIGHER STUDENT BODY.

THIS GIVES US AN EXTRA PERSON WE CAN SEND TO HELP OFFSET THAT, THAT IF A SCHOOL SEEING A BOMP, WE CAN GET THIS EXTRA FLOAT NURSE TO GO TO THAT BUILDING THAT DAY OR FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME TO HELP COVER SOME OF THOSE MEDICAL NEEDS THAT EXIST OR JUST TRIAGING IN GENERAL.

IT GIVES US THAT FLEXIBILITY.

WE ALSO INCLUDED WEEKEND CONTACT TRACING STIPENDS WE HAD THIS LAST YEAR FOR OUR NURSES.

AGAIN, WE'VE GOT TO FEEL LIKE A BROKEN RECORD ON THAT PIECE. THEY'RE DOING A LOT.

THEY'RE WORKING BEYOND THEIR SCHOOL DAY, BEYOND THEIR WORKDAY IN THE EVENINGS, THEY'RE WORKING ON WEEKENDS COVERING CONTACT TRACING CALLS.

WE INCLUDED STIPENDS TO HELP COVER THOSE TIMES WHEN THEY'RE HELPING OUT.

ONE THING FOR SURE WITH COVID, WE HAVE LEARNED IS THAT AGAIN, WE GOT TO KEEP LOOKING FOR BETTER COMMUNICATION OPPORTUNITIES BETWEEN HOME AND WORK.

WE UTILIZE GOOGLE VOICE THROUGH EARLIER GOOGLE OR EARLIER GRANTS.

GOOGLE VOICE IS A LITTLE COSTLY.

WE LOOKED FOR TALKING WITH TECHNOLOGY TO FIND A BETTER TEXTING COMMUNICATION SOLUTION BETWEEN HOME AND SCHOOL.

WE DID MORE OF A GOOGLE VOICE.

WE HAD A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR CONNECTING WITH PARENTS THROUGH TEXT MESSAGES, AND IT WAS ALSO TRANSLATABLE.

IT HELPED A LOT TO BE ABLE TO GET ALL THE PARENTS.

YOU CAN GET A TEXT THROUGH PRETTY QUICK WITH FOLKS FASTER THAN YOU CAN GET A MASTER TELEPHONE CALL WHEN THEY SEE THE SCHOOL'S TELEPHONE NUMBER AND TEXTING WORK.

WE'RE LOOKING TO UTILIZE THE FUNDING TO GIVE A TEXTING COMMUNICATION SOLUTION THAT ALL TEACHERS WILL BE ABLE TO USE TO COMMUNICATE WITH FAMILIES AND NURSES WILL BE ABLE TO USE, ADMINISTRATORS WILL BE ABLE TO USE, AND IT'S ONE, IT'S ARCHIVAL.

WE'RE NOT ASKING PEOPLE TO USE THEIR OWN PHONES FROM TEXTING.

IT'LL GIVE US THAT PEACE THAT WE CAN ARCHIVE THE COMMUNICATION.

WE CAN PROTECT OUR STAFF AND ANY COMMUNICATION GOES ON.

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WE'RE LOOKING TO ROLL THAT OUT.

WE HAD THINGS IN PLACE PRIOR TO COVID FOR TIME AND ATTENDANCE, RECORD KEEPING FOR STAFF.

WE'VE IMPLEMENTED AN INTERNAL SYSTEM THAT INVOLVED YOU TOUCHING SOMETHING AND EVERYBODY TOUCHING IT COMING IN THE BUILDING THROUGH BOARD TIME AND ATTENDANCE.

AGAIN, COVID, NOT SMARTS OPTION HAVE WE HAVEN'T USED IT SINCE COVID HIT.

WE WILL BE LOOKING MOVE TO AN ELECTRONIC TOUCHLESS EMPLOYEE TIMEKEEPING SYSTEM THAT WILL INTEGRATE HOPEFULLY SEAMLESSLY, WE'RE LOOKING AT IT WITH OUR PAYROLL.

WE CAN ALL MEET A LOT OF OUR PROCESSES, WHICH ALSO WILL HELP SPEED UP SOME OF THE WAYS THAT WE DO THINGS RIGHT NOW.

A LOT OF OUR PAYROLL IS DONE BY PAPER WITH SIGNIFICANT-GOOD CHECK, WHICH IS GOOD.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S ALL PAPERS AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THAT MORE SEAMLESS AND THIS WILL HELP.

WE'RE ALSO LOOKING TO MOVE TO A DIGITAL DOCUMENTS SOLUTION FOR POWERSCHOOL, A WAY TO GET REPORT CARDS AND OTHER DOCUMENTATION TO PARENTS, ELECTRONICALLY THROUGH PDFS, THROUGH EMAIL, AND OTHER COMMUNICATION OPTIONS.

OF COURSE, WITH COVID, WITH THE BEING HERE NEEDED TO HAVE AN AVENUE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ANY PPE SANITATION AND SAFETY SUPPLIES THAT WE DO NEED.

TO CONTINUE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE IN THIS FOR A WHILE.

THE MASS MONDAY WAS APPROVED THAT WAS FOR A 180 DAYS.

WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO BE IN IT PROBABLY AT LEAST FOR ANOTHER SEVERAL MONTHS.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT THE MATERIALS WE NEED FOR OUR STUDENTS AND STAFF.

BUSES AND THE BUILDINGS, AND THEN ADDITIONAL CLEANING EQUIPMENT TO HELP IMPROVE AIR QUALITY, AIR SCRUBBERS, THE HUMIDIFIERS, AND ALSO MORE ELECTROSTATIC SPRAYERS.

WE HAVE THOSE MORE READILY AVAILABLE IN ALL OF OUR BUILDINGS AND TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THE [INAUDIBLE] ELECTROSTATIC SPRAYERS ARE AWESOME.

BUT THEY ARE A USE OF BLEACH TYPE SOLUTION AND THE EQUIPMENT WILL WEAR OUT.

THIS WILL ALLOW US TO STAY ON TOP OF THAT TO KEEP THAT GOING.

THIS IS THE MAJOR PIECE OF OUR SAFE RETURN INSTRUCTION COMPONENT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT REALLY AROUND THE HEALTH AND SAFETY COMPONENT AND BUILDING THAT PIECE OUT.

THAT'S ONE PART OF THE GRANT THAT WAS THERE.

HADN'T DEALT WITH WE WERE IDLE RACHEL. [LAUGHTER]

>> NO, THERE'S JUST NOBODY ON ZOOM WITH US [OVERLAPPING]

>> [LAUGHTER] WE WARM UP.

THE OTHER CATEGORY WAS ADDRESSING THE IMPACT RESULTING FROM DISRUPTIONS OF LEARNING.

IN THE ORIGINAL DISCUSSION BACK IN JULY, THEY HAD SPLIT THIS INTO TWO AREAS WHICH WAS ADDRESSING THE IMPACT OF DISRUPTIVE LEARNING.

THEN THEY ALSO HAD A SEPARATE AREA THAT DEALT WITH SUPPORTS OF THE STUDENTS IN THE ACTUAL GRANT APPLICATION.

THEY COMBINE THESE TWO UNDER THE SAME QUESTION.

WHICH IS WHY IT'S IN THE SAME SLIDE WITH THE THINGS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT, WE'VE DISCUSSED, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE FUNDING TO HELP PROVIDE FOR THE SUMMER AND AFTER-SCHOOL PROGRAMMING, STAFF ASSOCIATED WITH SUCH, AND TRANSPORTATION.

THAT WAS PART OF THAT 20 PERCENT THAT WE MUST ALLOCATE TO ADDRESS LEARNING LAWS.

WE WILL KEEP THAT GOING.

DIAGNOSTIC ASSESSMENTS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ONE OF THOSE WAS BASE, WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT LAST MONTH. I THINK IT WAS.

WHICH WAS THAT SOCIAL EMOTIONAL SCREENER FOR STUDENTS, AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL DIAGNOSTIC ASSESSMENTS IN OUR CONTENT AREAS.

WE CAN TRULY MEASURE LEARNING LAWS.

YOU CAN'T MEASURE LEARNING LAWS IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE THE KIDS ARE COMING IN AND WHERE THEY SHOULD BE AS OPPOSED TO GRADE LEVEL.

INCREASING ACCESS TO MATH AND READING INTERVENTIONS AT THE TIER II AND TIER III LEVEL.

I KNOW MS. MCCONNOR AND MS. ANTHONY HAVE SPOKEN TO YOU GUYS ABOUT THE DIFFERENT TIER LEVELS AND THE MULTI-TIERED SYSTEM OF SUPPORT.

BUILDING THOSE OPTIONS OUT SO WE'RE ARE MEETING THE KIDS.

ONCE WE DO THE DIAGNOSTIC, WE REALIZE WHAT THEY NEED, THEN WE'VE GOING TO HAVE THE PROGRAMS TO ACTUALLY GIVE THEM WHAT THE DIAGNOSTICS TALENTED NEED TO SUPPORT THEM WITH READING AND MATH.

WE'VE EMBEDDED PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT FUNDING.

IF YOU RECALL WE SIGNIFICANTLY DECREASED PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT COSTS IN LOCAL BUDGET IN ORDER TO MAKE THINGS MEET LAST YEAR IN ORDER TO GIVE THE INCREASES TO STAFF AS WELL AS TO HIT THE COMPONENT AROUND THE INCREASED COST TO HEALTH CARE.

WE INCLUDED PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT COSTS IN OUR [INAUDIBLE] TO HELP US BRIDGE THAT GAP THAT WOULD EXIST IN FUNDING FOR CONTENT AREA AS WELL AS SOCIAL, EMOTIONAL LEARNING NEEDS THAT WE HAVE.

WE ALSO LOOKED AT ADDING IN ADDITIONAL CONTENT AREA MATERIALS AND INSTRUCTION.

IF WE IDENTIFIED THE KIDS ARE BEHIND AND WE'RE SEEING THAT THERE'S INTERIOR ONE THAT'S FOR ALL KIDS.

IF WE SEE A GAP FOR ALL OF OUR KIDS COMING IN BASED ON THE DIAGNOSTIC, WE MAY NEED DIFFERENT RESOURCES TO CATCH THEM WHERE THEY ARE NOW.

TO HELP GET THEM BACK TO WHERE THEY SHOULD BE.

TEACHERS WILL NEED THOSE RESOURCES AND MATERIALS OF INSTRUCTION.

WE'VE INCLUDED FUNDING FOR THAT.

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CORE CURRICULUM AND CONTENT AREAS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT LAST MONTH AND WE TALKING ABOUT IT AT THE OCTOBER WORK SESSION.

IN PARTICULAR, FOR CURRICULUM AND CONTENT AREAS.

THERE ARE SOME WRITING REALLY IN PARTICULAR, IT WILL BE THE READING DATA FIVE PROGRAMMING WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THIS YEAR.

THIS WILL HELP TO FUND THAT, TO BRING THAT IN.

TECHNOLOGY, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS A HUGE COST.

THIS IS ONE AREA TO BE HONEST AS WE'RE LOOKING AT FUTURE BUDGETING, THIS WILL HELP US IN THE SHORT RUN.

BUT IF WE DON'T GET AN EYE ON THIS IN THE FUTURE YEARS GOING DOWN, WE COULD END UP RUNNING INTO A FUNDING CLIFF FOUR, FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, DEPENDING ON HOW OUR TECHNOLOGY PLAN IS LAID OUT.

WE THINK WE HAVE A GOOD PLAN IN PLACE.

BUT WHEN YOU MOVE TO A ONE-TO-ONE SYSTEM, THIS WILL HELP US BRIDGE THE GAP FROM WHERE WE WERE WITH OUR TECH MONEY EARLIER.

WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT CREATIVE SOLUTIONS TO GET OUR STUDENTS DEVICES ON THESE PROGRAMS LIKE WE DO FOR STACK LAPTOPS.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE OPTIONS.

THIS WILL HELP BRIDGE THAT GAP.

BUT WE KNOW THREE, FOUR YEARS FROM NOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT OPTIONS TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THAT EFFORT.

BECAUSE TECH IS NOT CHEAP WITH THE ONE-TO-ONE.

WE TALKED ABOUT IT IN JULY.

WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR TWO OF THE THERAPEUTIC SUPPORT CLASSROOMS. THESE ARE THE SUPPORT CLASSROOMS FOR STUDENTS WHO ARE EXHIBITING THE NEED FOR INTENSIVE SUPPORT FOR SOCIAL, EMOTIONAL, SOME BEHAVIOR CONCERNS.

THEY DON'T QUALIFY FOR OTHER PROGRAM, FOR GENERAL EDUCATION STUDENTS WHO NEED THAT KIND OF SHORT DURATION SUPPORT.

WE WERE ABLE TO FUND THAT TWO OF OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AS A PILOT PROGRAM.

IT'S DENTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND BRISBANE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WE WERE ABLE TO FUND THOSE FOR THERE.

AGAIN, THE GREAT PIECES OF THE PILOTS, WE CAN SEE HOW IT WORKS TO SEE IF WE NEED TO LOOK TO EXPAND IT.

THEN WE ALSO WERE ABLE TO ADD IN, WE HAD TWO SCHOOL COUNSELING POSITIONS THAT DUE TO BUDGET CUTS WERE CUT TWO YEARS AGO.

DENTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND COLONEL RICHARDSON MIDDLE SCHOOL BOTH GOT CUT THE SCHOOL COUNSELOR DOWN TO ONE.

THEY HAD AN ADDITIONAL COUNSELOR FOR TWO YEARS.

WE ADDED IT AND THEN WE REMOVED IT.

WE'RE ABLE TO BRING IT BACK.

THE NEED THAT FALLS ON DENTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WITH THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS THEY HAVE IN PARTICULAR AND COLONEL RICHARDSON MIDDLE SCHOOL, AN ADDITIONAL COUNSELOR IS DEFINITELY NEEDED.

MIDDLE SCHOOL KIDS HAVE A LOT GOING ON.

COLONEL RICHARDSON MIDDLE SCHOOL IS A SMALLER MIDDLE SCHOOL.

I'LL GIVE YOU THAT WITH THE STUDENT NUMBER SIZE.

BUT ALSO IT TAKES IS ONE SEMI CRISIS SITUATION THAT PULLS A SCHOOL COUNSELOR OUT OF BEING ACCESSIBLE DURING THE DAY AND THAT CUTS OFF ACCESS TO EVERY KID IN THAT GOING FOR THE SCHOOL COUNSELOR FOR THE WHOLE DURATION OF THE SCHOOL DAY.

HAVING TWO COUNSELORS DEFINITELY GIVES THEM THE FLEXIBILITY THEY NEED TO RESPOND TO THE NEEDS OF MIDDLE SCHOOLERS.

MIDDLE SCHOOLERS TRADITIONALLY, HAVE HAD LOTS OF NEEDS THAT THIS YEAR IS DEFINITELY ONE OF THOSE WHERE THEY HAVE.

THERE'S DEFINITELY NEED AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL LEVEL.

BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO RETURN FROM THE MIDDLE TO TWO SCHOOL COUNSELORS HELP SUPPORT THEM.

THEN WE ALSO WANTED TO ADD IN A POSITION TO HOMELESS LIAISON.

IT'S ACCOUNTING WHAT POSITION WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO THE PUPIL SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND SOMEONE WHO REALLY HELPED PROVIDE THE SUPPORTS WITH HOMELESSNESS.

WE KNOW THAT WITH THE EVICTION WORTH WORRYING BEING LIFTED, THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS WHO ARE ELIGIBLE FOR HOMELESS SERVICES THROUGH MCKINNEY-VENTO ELIGIBILITY.

WE NEED TO BE POSITIONED TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT LEVEL OF SUPPORT AND SERVICES AS WELL.

IT'LL BE A PBW POSITION, WITH SOMEBODY WHO HAS SIGNIFICANT BACKGROUND AND ALMOST HELP SUPPORT THAT AS WELL.

WE KNOW IT'S COMING. IT'S A SLOW BILL.

CAROLINE COUNTY HAS DONE A GREAT JOB SO FAR THROUGH COUNTY GOVERNMENTS FUNDING THAT THEY RECEIVED TO HELP SUPPORT FAMILIES TO LIMIT THE IMPACT OF HOMELESSNESS.

BUT WE KNOW IT'S COMING. WE'RE SEEING IT IN OTHER COUNTIES ALREADY PICK UP STEAM.

THEIR FUNDING IS GOING TO RUN OUT TO SUPPORT PROPERTY OWNERS AND THOSE WHO ARE BEHIND ON RENT.

WE KNOW THEY'RE FUNDING IS GOING TO RUN OUT AND WHEN IT DOES, IT'S GOING TO HIT PROBABLY, HOPEFULLY NOT, BUT TYPICALLY IT HITS RIGHT AROUND THE HOLIDAYS.

THAT THANKSGIVING AND THROUGH THANKSGIVING, CHRISTMAS IS USUALLY A REAL TOUGH TIME FOR HOMELESSNESS.

JUST THE WAY THE STARS ARE ALIGNING, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT COULD BE A REALLY TOUGH TIME FOR US IN TRACKING THEIR STUDENTS AND PROVIDING SERVICES.

DEDICATING SOMEONE TO THAT IS GOING TO BE CRITICAL FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HELP BRIDGE THAT GAP AND HOPEFULLY KEEP THEM IN OUR COUNTY.

I THINK THAT WAS THE LAST SLIDE, ALL RIGHT, RACHEL.

THOSE WERE THE MAJOR THINGS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT FOR THE FUNDING UTILIZATION, PROBABLY THE LARGEST TICKET ITEM AND IF YOU HAVE TO PUT IT IN AN AREA OR A SUBSET OF AREAS IS TECHNOLOGY.

TECHNOLOGY IS REALLY THE BIGGEST AREA.

[03:15:01]

IT'S GOING TO HIT US FOR A LITTLE WHILE. THERE'S BRIDGES.

[INAUDIBLE] GOT A GOOD PLAN TOGETHER ABOUT HOW TO TRY TO STRETCH THE DOLLAR MORE AND PROTECT DEVICES AND GET MORE YEARS OF USE ALBUM.

BUT THAT WILL BE ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT HAS ME A LITTLE NERVOUS GOING FORWARD BUDGET WISE, AND WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT BUDGET TONIGHT.

BUT THAT'S JUST ANOTHER AS WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE COMMON IN ABOUT FOUR YEARS OF HOW DO YOU PLUG THAT WHEN THIS DISAPPEARS.

>> THIS IS A LOT OF GOOD WORK HERE TO PUT THIS TOGETHER.

THE TRUTH THAT'S SPENT IN $13.7 MILLION.

IT REQUIRES A LOT OF WORK.

WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY IT'S WONDERFUL.

BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF WORK ASSOCIATED HERE.

MY COMPLIMENTS TO EVERYBODY WHO WORKED TO PUT THIS TOGETHER.

IT'S REALLY COMPREHENSIVE.

THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE IS ONE THAT YOU'VE ALREADY INDICATED.

I KNOW YOU'LL BE WATCHING IT AND STAFF WILL BE WATCHING IS IF ANY RECURRING EXPENSES THAT WOULD LAST AFTER THIS ENDS AND ADDING THE COUNSELORS, HOMELESS LIAISON OR IT'S ANOTHER STAFF OR SO IN THERE.

THEY BECOME SO ENTRENCHED IN THE SYSTEM AND SO IMPORTANT THAT WHAT HAPPENS IN HOMELESSNESS IS NOT A RECENT ISSUE AND MAYBE IT'LL GO AWAY IN TWO OR THREE YEARS.

I DOUBT IT. THAT PERSON JUST PICKING ON THAT SPECIFIC THING, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED IT WHEN THOSE GRANTS OVER. YOU KNOW THAT.

I'M JUST POINTING OUT, BUT THAT'S A REOCCURRING EFFECT BUT BY LARGE, IT LOOKS LIKE THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE DOING ARE NOT.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF MONEY CAN NOT REOCCURRING.

YOU COULD SAY TECHNOLOGY IS, THE DEVICES AND SO FORTH.

THIS GETS YOU AT LEAST WAVES DOWN THE LINE.

THIS ISN'T CREATING THAT EXPENSE.

IT'S FILLING THAT HOLE.

AS ARE ALL [INAUDIBLE].

I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.

THAT'S THE ONLY CONCERN.

ANYTHING THAT'S REOCCURRING, YOU'VE EITHER GOT TO KEEP THAT ALIVE OR GIVE IT UP WHEN THE MONEY RUNS OUT.

>> YEAH.

>> THANK YOU.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I'LL BE HONEST, I NEVER THOUGHT THE MONEY WOULD GO THAT FAST. I NEVER DID.

I WAS LIKE, [NOISE] THIS WILL BE GREAT AND IT IS BUT IT WENT FAST.

>> A LOT OF GOOD THINKING HERE.

REALLY JUST TREMENDOUS WISDOM AND BRAINPOWER AND [INAUDIBLE].

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE JOBS WHICH HAD TO PUT TOGETHER, HAD TO DO IT, HAD TO DO THIS BUT IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT, IT'S AN ADD-ON JOB TO PUT THIS PLAN TOGETHER. THAT'S A LOT OF WORK.

>> A LOT OF GREAT PEOPLE.

>> A LOT OF WORK TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

>> TO HELP GUIDE IT. THAT'S FOR SURE.

>> SURE.

>> [NOISE] OR SMALL COUNTY AND A SMALL STATE AND THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY BUT I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S EFFORTS.

>> THANK YOU.

>> BOARD MEMBERS. GOOD EVENING.

LONG NIGHT, LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION, REPORTS, AND PRESENTATIONS.

WE'RE GOING ON TO AREA OF FUTURE ITEMS FOR BOARD DISCUSSION.

[8. Future Items for Discussion]

I JUST WANT TO ASK THAT I'M GOING TO BE SHARING INFORMATION WITH YOU.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MABE CONVENTIONS HAPPENING BUT UNDER DIFFERENT PARAMETERS NEXT FEW DAYS, BUT THERE ARE COMMITTEES FOR MABE, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION AND FOR IMPROMPTU HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO MENTION.

IF YOU HAVE TIME OR INTEREST IN ANYTHING RELATING TO ANY OF THESE COMMITTEES AFFORD TO EMAIL OUT TO YOU.

WE REALLY NEED TO GET A LIST UP TO MABE, TO POTENTIAL MEMBERS.

THERE'S BUDGET, THERE'S LEGISLATIVE.

LEGISLATIVE IS IMPORTANT AS WE HEAR ALL THIS STUFF IMPACTS US ON A DAILY BASIS.

CONFERENCE PROGRAMMING COMMITTEE, FEDERAL RELATIONS, NOMINATING FOR FUTURE OFFICERS, POLICIES, AND PROCEDURES RELATING TO MABE, RESOLUTIONS RELATING TO MABE.

I'LL FORWARD THIS EMAIL OUT TO YOU [NOISE] AND ASK IF ANYBODY CAN REALLY TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND PUT YOUR NAME DOWN AND LET ME KNOW IF YOU'RE INTERESTED AND HAVE TIME TO PARTICIPATE IN ANY OF THOSE COMMITTEES.

BOARD MEMBERS, ANYTHING ELSE FOR FUTURE ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION? UNFINISHED BUSINESS, LISTS.

[9. Unfinished Business]

IT'S JUST BLANK BECAUSE IT'S SO MUCH WE CAN'T LIST IT ALL.

[LAUGHTER] UPCOMING MEETINGS AND EVENTS ARE LISTED.

[10. Upcoming Meetings and Events]

>> WE'VE BEEN VERY OPTIMISTIC.

WE'VE BEEN VERY HOPEFUL, VERY EXCITED.

WE'RE GOING TO HOLD A CONFERENCE OUT THERE NOW.

[INAUDIBLE] YOUR SCHEDULES.

>> OKAY.

>> I LIKE THAT. BECAUSE USUALLY WE'RE GETTING THEM RIGHT LIKE A DAY OR TWO BEFOREHAND.

>> YEAH.

[03:20:01]

>> NOW WE CAN ACTUALLY PLAN.

THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.

>> GOOD STUFF AND WE DO HAVE OUR NEXT WORK SESSION ON THE 19TH.

>> I WILL NOT BE AT THAT MEETING.

I HAVE A WORK OBLIGATION THAT ENTIRE EVENING.

PROBABLY WON'T END TILL 8 O'CLOCK.

>> THAT'S WHEN WE VOLUNTEER YOU FOR.

>> VOLUNTEER ME FOR ALL KINDS OF [INAUDIBLE].

>> WE'LL FILL OUT THAT LIST.

>> I DON'T THINK I'LL EVEN BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE VIA ZOOM BECAUSE I'LL BE ENGAGED IN ACTIVITIES DURING THAT TIME.

>> [OVERLAPPING] WORK IS WORK UNFORTUNATELY.

>> IT'S HARD TO DO ZOOM AFTER THE SECOND OR THIRD HOUR.

>> SOMEBODY I'LL GET TO RETIRE LIKE SOME PEOPLE.

[LAUGHTER]

>> I'D LIKE TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING AND MARK, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. APPRECIATE IT.

ZACH, I GOT TO ASK YOU THIS, WHY DO YOU SIT [INAUDIBLE].

[LAUGHTER] I KNOW YOU ALL WERE WONDERING.

>> I ACTUALLY LIKE IT.

I KNOW THAT'S LIKE AN UNPOPULAR OPINION.

>> NO, IT'S NOT UNPOPULAR.

>> I ENJOYED IT.

[OVERLAPPING] I LIKE TO SEE BEHIND THE SCENES IS COOL.

>> THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. THAT'S GOOD.

>> IT'S GOING TO BE NEXT. [OVERLAPPING]

>> YOU WILL USE THAT KNOWLEDGE IN A FUTURE AGAIN. [LAUGHTER]

>> WELL, HE WANTS TO BE THE PRESIDENT.

YOU WANT TO BE PRESIDENT?

>> THAT'S A FAR REACH.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> I THOUGHT MAYBE YOU JUST CAME TO YOUR SENSES.

>> TURN YOUR MICROPHONE AGAIN [INAUDIBLE]. [LAUGHTER]

>> THERE'S NOBODY WATCHING ANYMORE.

>> SOMEONE'S GOT TO DO IT.

[OVERLAPPING] I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

>> THANK YOU. YEAH.

>> AGAIN, IF YOU'RE GOING TO SIT THERE, IF YOU EVER HAVE ANY THOUGHTS OR IDEAS ON THE NEXT, SOME STUDENT MEMBERS ACTUALLY GET TO VOTE ON SOME OF THESE TOPICS AND OTHER COUNTIES AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

THAT'S JUST NEVER BEEN THE FACT BECAUSE MOST OF THEM DIDN'T WANT TO SIT BUT IF YOU WANT TO SIT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO HEAR YOUR OPINION, YOUR THOUGHTS.

MEETINGS EVENTS NEXT BOARD MEETING, LIKE WE SAID, THIS IS THE WORK SESSION.

ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE GOOD OF CALLS? [NOISE] DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN?

>> SO MOVED.

>> MOTION.

>> SECOND.

>> SECOND BY MR. JONES, FIRST BY MRS. DIGIACOMO. ALL IN FAVOR.

>> AYE.

>> THANK YOU ALL.

>> EVERYBODY HAVE A GOOD EVENING.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.